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2013-04-03 02:38:02 PM
BTW... anyone experiencing severe back pain or chronic muscular/skeletal pain harass your doctor for some muscle relaxers instead of just taking stuff like vicodin/percs/oxy/etc... They actually do something aside from mask the pain and gives you a better chance to heal. They are also a lot less likely to bork up your liver. Still highly addictive though.

Also get some physiotherapy and make use of ice packs and heating pads. Ice and heat work better than most any pharma bullsh*t out there.
 
2013-04-03 02:51:32 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: She stole them because she doesn't have health insurance.

Welp...no worries, we'll take care of your medical while you sit in a jail, but those of you still on the outside, you're still farked.

Socialism!


If only they actually took care of your medical needs in jail.
 
2013-04-03 02:57:26 PM
For all you pain sufferers: Nucynta.

Chem name: Tapentadol.

I was on 250mg morphine a day for back pain. Farked my insides, my dopamine, my mood.

Switched to Nucynta w/ lyrica, flexeril, mobic added in.

Back feels 100x's better, guts are good, mood's better.

It's a synth opioid, so you'll still need a pain dr, but fark anything w/ acetaminophen in it and oxy's a sick joke (no pain relief, just high as hell).

Seriously. You got pain, ask the doc about it- new sin tah.

No, i'm not a pharma shill, just a satisfied customer.
 
2013-04-03 03:09:57 PM

here to help: BTW... anyone experiencing severe back pain or chronic muscular/skeletal pain harass your doctor for some muscle relaxers instead of just taking stuff like vicodin/percs/oxy/etc... They actually do something aside from mask the pain and gives you a better chance to heal. They are also a lot less likely to bork up your liver. Still highly addictive though.

Also get some physiotherapy and make use of ice packs and heating pads. Ice and heat work better than most any pharma bullsh*t out there.


BULLshiat!

As someone who has experienced severe back pain most of my life, and having 1 lumbar fusion, 2 neck fusions, and lost and lots of disc herniations I can say in all honesty, muscle relaxers don't do shiat. I don't care if it's soma, flexeril, robaxin, skelaxin, zanaflex, baclofen, lorzone, norflex, etc. Muscle relaxers are only good for pain associated with muscle spasm/cramps presuming those muscles aren't farked from the nerves misfiring.  Further there are muscle relaxants that do screw with your liver like dantrium.

The shiat that will bork your liver in the opiate pain medicines is the damn tylenol they put in it a lot of them. You can get the drugs without the liver damaging parts. Just ask your doctor. Vicodin comes without tylenol, so does codeine, oxycodone, etc. Hell, if you like the anti-inflammatory part but hate tylenol they can even give you a different type (percodan has aspirin instead of tylenol like percocet.

So sure it may be an option for some, but don't harass your doctor about them because he may know more than you do about the underlying issues.
 
2013-04-03 03:12:51 PM

citizenj: Nucynta


How do you function on Lyrica? I couldn't and I was at a low dose. Did you eventually get used to it or did you respond to it well from the beginning? I felt like a zombie with a flu if that makes sense. Odd feverish body aches to replace the other pains and general lethargy.
 
2013-04-03 03:13:25 PM

citizenj: flexeril


That's my go to for severe spazms. It's like a chemical massage and gives me marshmallow dreams. Sadly not covered by insurance. They will cover baclofen which works but it's nastier on my guts/mental state as well as the crummy acetaminophen based stuff. I've been told about Nucynta before but I'm a little wary of meds that haven't been around long.

One day I hope all this sh*t will leave my life. I've been able to stretch/exercise more which really is the only way to get chronic muscular/skeletal pain under control in the long run. It's just a real b*tch getting to a point where you can even move enough to DO the necessary exercises.

It's a terrible thing to live with. To all my pain consumed brothers and sisters out there... don't give up. Keep your mind occupied in the bad times and do EVERYTHING you can to regain some control over your body.

Peace.
 
2013-04-03 03:20:35 PM

here to help: citizenj: flexeril

That's my go to for severe spazms. It's like a chemical massage and gives me marshmallow dreams. Sadly not covered by insurance. They will cover baclofen which works but it's nastier on my guts/mental state as well as the crummy acetaminophen based stuff. I've been told about Nucynta before but I'm a little wary of meds that haven't been around long.

One day I hope all this sh*t will leave my life. I've been able to stretch/exercise more which really is the only way to get chronic muscular/skeletal pain under control in the long run. It's just a real b*tch getting to a point where you can even move enough to DO the necessary exercises.

It's a terrible thing to live with. To all my pain consumed brothers and sisters out there... don't give up. Keep your mind occupied in the bad times and do EVERYTHING you can to regain some control over your body.

Peace.


Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.
 
2013-04-03 03:22:58 PM

ReverendJynxed: BULLshiat!


Excuse me? Don't be a dick. For pinched nerves caused by spazmed muscles muscle relaxer are an excellent option. Opiates don't do crap to ease up muscle tension. If you get those muscles loosened up they ease up on the nerve that was binding up the muscles that were pinching the nerve. It's a cycle that needs to be broken in many cases. Massage therapy and physio are good ways to accomplish this as well but are extremely costly and painful (if you can even GET to the office in the first place).

And yes they are bad for you but for the effectiveness versus liver poisoning factor muscle relaxer will do a f*ck of a lot more for you than acetaminophen filled crap.
 
2013-04-03 03:27:12 PM

ReverendJynxed: Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.


Definitely. That's why physio is so great. A good PT will give you small, easy but effective exercises to keep things moving enough. Once you stop moving you are doomed.

Anyway... didn't mean to get snippy in that last post but damn... I've been through the pain. I wouldn't talk sh*t about this type of thing.

Feel better. Keep moving. Good luck.
 
2013-04-03 03:33:12 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing


Seconded.  I know a guy who took Baytril for a few days.  He stopped when the spiders on his bedroom ceiling wouldn't go away.
 
2013-04-03 03:34:09 PM
Oh and the fusions are likely why the relaxers ain't working as well for you. With a slipped disc if muscles ease up the disc has a better chance of backing of the nerves. Fusion... well nothing is moving so all you can do is seek relief. That's where there isn't much choice aside from trying to mask the pain until you can get surgery. At least AFAIK... I haven;t had to deal with fusion yet.
 
2013-04-03 03:34:14 PM

here to help: ReverendJynxed: Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.

Definitely. That's why physio is so great. A good PT will give you small, easy but effective exercises to keep things moving enough. Once you stop moving you are doomed.

Anyway... didn't mean to get snippy in that last post but damn... I've been through the pain. I wouldn't talk sh*t about this type of thing.

Feel better. Keep moving. Good luck.


Some would argue that the pain is causing you to tense up more so and removing the stressor (the pain) is enough and for many it is. This is why I specifically mentioned the difference. It isn't the end all like you initially presented. Each case is different. My muscles are come and go, while my nerve damage is permanent. Some folks with chronic back problems don't have issues with the muscles at all.

When it came to physical therapy it seemed to cause more harm than good because the idiots running it wanted to treat it like a sprain etc. and exercise exercise exercise to the point of causing more injury. I suppose it is sort of the same mindset that chiropractors have in thinking they know better and can do no wrong even if they are clearly making things worse. "We don't use drugs so we are better" isn't.

At any rate, glad you got something that works for you. Have a good one.
 
2013-04-03 03:38:12 PM

here to help: Oh and the fusions are likely why the relaxers ain't working as well for you. With a slipped disc if muscles ease up the disc has a better chance of backing of the nerves. Fusion... well nothing is moving so all you can do is seek relief. That's where there isn't much choice aside from trying to mask the pain until you can get surgery. At least AFAIK... I haven;t had to deal with fusion yet.


Actually we did the fusions BECAUSE none of the other treatments were working. But yes it has sort of stuck on broken.  My discs tore and leaked all over the place so they had to be removed to get the material off the nerves. The disc material was removed so nothing there to heal, but the nerves are damaged.
 
2013-04-03 04:00:20 PM

ReverendJynxed: At any rate, glad you got something that works for you. Have a good one.


Well... I've had to come up with my own regimen that's been cobbled together from all the various good and numbnuts doctors I've dealt with over the years. I'll never be what I once was but I'm happy enough to not be constantly twisted up to the point of being completely immobile.

Didn't realize yours was an intentional fusion. I'm not sure on this but I've heard that eventually the nerves realize that they are no longer doing anything but causing a problem and just die (happened to me and lost a lot of mobility). But building up other secondary muscles to compensate seems to have gotten some strength back. I know it's expensive as f*ck and very painful but you should keep looking for physio docs that aren't gung ho assholes (yes I know the type you are talking about). The best ones will give you exercises where you are barely moving to build up small secondary muscle which give enough strength to work on other muscles and so on and so on. It sounds like you have a lot wrong with you though so it would be a big challenge finding enough muscle groups to compensate but there are people out there who can help.

One thing you might want to check out is very simple yoga exercises. I can't describe what I do in text and really it's all very specific to the individual but many PT exercises are extremely similar to yoga moves.

IDK... I hope you don't mind some stranger telling you this that and the other but I know how much it sucks and I know that with even seemingly meaningless daily exercises that it is possible to break some thresholds.

Best to ya.
 
2013-04-03 05:47:22 PM

ReverendJynxed: citizenj: Nucynta

How do you function on Lyrica? I couldn't and I was at a low dose. Did you eventually get used to it or did you respond to it well from the beginning? I felt like a zombie with a flu if that makes sense. Odd feverish body aches to replace the other pains and general lethargy.


Apparently I have the tolerance of two or three grizzly bears.

I take 50mg 4x's day w/ everything else.

Just gotta get used to it I guess.
 
2013-04-03 06:02:16 PM
A woman once asked my mom if she could have our 90 lb. German Shepherd's painkillers.

She also requested a local anesthetic for her daughter, who was having her wisdom teeth taken out, so she could get free painkillers.

Good role model :/
 
2013-04-03 07:03:54 PM

kitsuneymg: FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


For fark's sake...

Look for Hydrocodone/APAP on the bottle.

Also, anyone recommending Ultram/Tramadol (not you) is a bit off. It isn't a good drug.
 
2013-04-03 07:11:01 PM

ReverendJynxed: zanaflex


However, it is wonderful when mixed with scotch.
 
2013-04-03 07:12:49 PM

Somaticasual: BarkingUnicorn: Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.

I'm not sure that's going to convince the sun to drop its pay wall..

//sorry, couldn't help it..


Just got Firefox 20 yesterday.  I'm liking the ability to right-click a Fark icon, select "launch private browing window," and slip past paywalls after I run out of monthly freebies.
 
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