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2013-04-03 11:00:03 AM  
Suppositories at least I hope..

/kind of jealous
 
2013-04-03 11:09:50 AM  
Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?
 
2013-04-03 11:10:17 AM  
Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?
 
2013-04-03 11:10:20 AM  
Think of the children this monster was,,,,
What?
Just a few/day for herself?
Never mind.

But, but, but The Law!!!
 
2013-04-03 11:12:19 AM  
She was working a full-time job that didn't offer health insurance and/or didn't pay her enough to afford health insurance?  I thought job creators were better people than that...
 
2013-04-03 11:12:27 AM  
She stole them because she doesn't have health insurance.

Welp...no worries, we'll take care of your medical while you sit in a jail, but those of you still on the outside, you're still farked.

Socialism!
 
2013-04-03 11:13:22 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


I wouldn't think so. I get prescriptions filled for my dog at walgreens just like my own.  I would imagine the doses are smaller.
 
2013-04-03 11:13:23 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


Nope, come out of the very same kerchunk kerchunk machine.
Sometimes a different color.
Same pill could go for .1-2 cents or 10-20 dollars, same pill, drug, machine, the difference is salesmanship.

You do know the difference between Rape and Rapture???
 
2013-04-03 11:13:31 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No they are the same thing. Before the law changed, I would go to the farm and feed store to get antibiotics since I couldn't afford to go to a doctor.

Now I just found a doctor who doesn't give a shiat and phones in my scripts for ten bucks a call.
 
2013-04-03 11:16:15 AM  
We had a dog with serious skin allergies and the medicine that worked best was Neoral, an expensive anti-rejection drug for humans.

When the Labrador Retriever died, we sent the remaining pills to a sister-in-law who takes the identical anti-rejection drugs.  Her nose is colder and wetter these days.
 
2013-04-03 11:16:56 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.
 
2013-04-03 11:17:40 AM  
Writing fraudulent prescriptions is bad enough, but stealing Clay Matthews' hair? String her up!
 
2013-04-03 11:18:09 AM  
Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.
 
2013-04-03 11:18:47 AM  

algrant33: FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.


Dammit not Rimadyl. Tramadol.

/ftfm
 
2013-04-03 11:20:38 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No they are the same thing. Before the law changed, I would go to the farm and feed store to get antibiotics since I couldn't afford to go to a doctor.

Now I just found a doctor who doesn't give a shiat and phones in my scripts for ten bucks a call.


You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think
 
2013-04-03 11:22:03 AM  

ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.


or it was vicodin which is tylenol and hydrocodone in the same pill... but keep farking that chicken
 
2013-04-03 11:22:40 AM  

ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.


They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.
 
2013-04-03 11:24:15 AM  

Mazzic518: You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think


Its becoming increasingly harder, and the quality has gone to shiat. Last one I tried that with, it came wrapped in a news paper written in Arabic and the pills smelled foul.
 
2013-04-03 11:24:39 AM  
ObamaCare!
 
2013-04-03 11:25:38 AM  
abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:


Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.
 
2013-04-03 11:25:44 AM  
When the cop questioned her, outside of work, she reeked of alcohol.

'BUT I NEED MAH PILLS FOR MAH PAIN, IMMA VICTIM'

No you don't, you're just a dope fiend trying to justify your next score.
 
2013-04-03 11:28:39 AM  

show me: ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.


This.

OD on the opiates? Death is quick and painless.

OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.
 
2013-04-03 11:30:22 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mazzic518: You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think

Its becoming increasingly harder, and the quality has gone to shiat. Last one I tried that with, it came wrapped in a news paper written in Arabic and the pills smelled foul.



http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally
 
2013-04-03 11:31:28 AM  

Amos Quito: show me: ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.

This.

OD on the opiates? Death is quick and painless.

OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.


You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend
 
2013-04-03 11:33:01 AM  
Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing
 
2013-04-03 11:35:00 AM  
"Listen, this is the time to help yourself," he told her, according to the arrest report.

Beware of any cop spouting that line. Hell, beware of ANY cop...
 
2013-04-03 11:37:56 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No. There are drugs that are strictly for veterinary usage, but drugs that are also used in human medicine are the same. Only the dosage sizes may be smaller for packaging for veterinary usage. But this is actually pretty unusual, because of costs. Usually an adult of pediatric dosage is prescribed and pills are divided. Capsules are usually dissolved in a liquid medium, but you have to find a compounding pharmacist for this. There are compounding veterinary pharmacists who use liquid media that is formulated to be tasty to dogs and cats.
 
2013-04-03 11:38:19 AM  

Mazzic518: http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally


Cef is my go to staple, but the last one was a deep tissue infection and needed the big guns. My own damn fault for cutting myself on sheet metal though.
 
2013-04-03 11:39:05 AM  

mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?


NO NO NO!!!111  Don't you remember what Limbaugh said?  "Let them rot in prison."

Where is Rush nowadays?
 
2013-04-03 11:39:27 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mazzic518: http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally

Cef is my go to staple, but the last one was a deep tissue infection and needed the big guns. My own damn fault for cutting myself on sheet metal though.


ouch.... wich reminds me i am way overdue on a tetanus shot...
 
2013-04-03 11:42:35 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing


My brother got some pet meds for himself, but his wife made him stop taking them when he wouldn't quit chasing cars and licking his balls.
 
2013-04-03 11:46:04 AM  
i had a former brother in-law that would eat painkillers for a 150 to 175 lb Newfoundland.
It didn't turn out good.
 
2013-04-03 11:49:27 AM  

show me: Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing

My brother got some pet meds for himself, but his wife made him stop taking them when he wouldn't quit chasing cars and licking his balls.


Licking his balls is impressive enough but, whoa Momma, to do that while chasing a car is really something.
 
2013-04-03 11:53:16 AM  
I'm liking this Firefox v20.  Ran out of free articles on Sun-Sentinel. Right-click on Fark icon, select  "open link in private browsing window," and voila!

Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.
 
2013-04-03 11:56:45 AM  

FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.


The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.
 
2013-04-03 11:58:39 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.


I'm not sure that's going to convince the sun to drop its pay wall..

//sorry, couldn't help it..
 
2013-04-03 12:43:01 PM  
I owe my father in law an apology. There is a use for a dead dog after all

/worst dowry ever
 
2013-04-03 12:51:43 PM  
240 pills over 150 days, roughly 2 pills a day.  Like an amount someone would take for pain control not addiction.  If it was 240 in a week or two it would be more like addiction feeding.

Sad stuff, multiple felonies for stealing sheets of paper to control pain.
 
2013-04-03 12:53:57 PM  

Mazzic518: OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.

You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend


Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg.  That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills.  Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them.  It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg: The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


5-7.5 mg is TINY.  500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill.  When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone.  But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE.  800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human.  Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally.  You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.
 
2013-04-03 01:02:05 PM  

kitsuneymg: ts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


Called the vet, vet said nothing to worry about.  Thanks for the advice.
 
2013-04-03 01:03:31 PM  

Mazzic518: You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend


Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )
I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.
Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

/VA sends me a 180 Vicodine a month
//Tolerance is a motherfarker.
 
2013-04-03 01:23:50 PM  

Firethorn: Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg. That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills. Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them. It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.


Ibuprofin is not Acetaminophen.

BTW... the only reason acetaminophin is legal is because it was grandfathered in by the FDA. If it had been invented today there is no way it would have past safety regs it's that dangerous. Why they continue to use it as a base for pain meds is beyond me... well aside from maybe a profit angle. There are much better, less toxic alternatives available now.
 
2013-04-03 01:34:25 PM  

MythDragon: Mazzic518: You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend

Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )
I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.
Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

/VA sends me a 180 Vicodine a month
//Tolerance is a motherfarker.


Tramadol is opiate like, but it is not a synthetic opiate.

Vicodin also comes in 10/375.

/the more you know!
 
2013-04-03 01:38:37 PM  

kitsuneymg: FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


Except in Vicoprofen
 
2013-04-03 01:39:54 PM  

Firethorn: Mazzic518: OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.

You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend

Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg.  That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills.  Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them.  It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg: The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

5-7.5 mg is TINY.  500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill.  When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone.  But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE.  800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human.  Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally.  You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.


Motrin is not Tylenol.....
 
2013-04-03 01:45:13 PM  
I gave my cats Xanax before a long car trip. Big ass mistake.
 
2013-04-03 01:55:42 PM  

mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?


My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.
 
2013-04-03 02:11:20 PM  

booger42: I owe my father in law an apology. There is a use for a dead dog after all


Actually, in addition to getting prescription drugs, there's also another use for a dead dog.

So that's two things they're good for!
 
2013-04-03 02:11:38 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?

My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.


Ouch.  That's terrible.  Sorry for your loss, fellow farker.  I'm not sure which is worse, workplace injuries or the meds prescribed for them.
 
2013-04-03 02:32:56 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.


That sucks and I know that feel. Shame he couldn't hang on. I've been in those dark moments for months/years on end where you just want it to end because you can't do ANYTHING and the pain seems like it will NEVER go away. Fortunately I toughed it out and did my best to keep my mind occupied. Life still blows and the pain is still constantly there but the "KILL ME NOW" level of pain has subsided enough that I can at least work on the computer for more than ten minutes at a time.

Non-stop debilitating pain can be very lonely and does terrible things to a person's mental well being.

Sorry for your loss.
 
2013-04-03 02:38:02 PM  
BTW... anyone experiencing severe back pain or chronic muscular/skeletal pain harass your doctor for some muscle relaxers instead of just taking stuff like vicodin/percs/oxy/etc... They actually do something aside from mask the pain and gives you a better chance to heal. They are also a lot less likely to bork up your liver. Still highly addictive though.

Also get some physiotherapy and make use of ice packs and heating pads. Ice and heat work better than most any pharma bullsh*t out there.
 
2013-04-03 02:51:32 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: She stole them because she doesn't have health insurance.

Welp...no worries, we'll take care of your medical while you sit in a jail, but those of you still on the outside, you're still farked.

Socialism!


If only they actually took care of your medical needs in jail.
 
2013-04-03 02:57:26 PM  
For all you pain sufferers: Nucynta.

Chem name: Tapentadol.

I was on 250mg morphine a day for back pain. Farked my insides, my dopamine, my mood.

Switched to Nucynta w/ lyrica, flexeril, mobic added in.

Back feels 100x's better, guts are good, mood's better.

It's a synth opioid, so you'll still need a pain dr, but fark anything w/ acetaminophen in it and oxy's a sick joke (no pain relief, just high as hell).

Seriously. You got pain, ask the doc about it- new sin tah.

No, i'm not a pharma shill, just a satisfied customer.
 
2013-04-03 03:09:57 PM  

here to help: BTW... anyone experiencing severe back pain or chronic muscular/skeletal pain harass your doctor for some muscle relaxers instead of just taking stuff like vicodin/percs/oxy/etc... They actually do something aside from mask the pain and gives you a better chance to heal. They are also a lot less likely to bork up your liver. Still highly addictive though.

Also get some physiotherapy and make use of ice packs and heating pads. Ice and heat work better than most any pharma bullsh*t out there.


BULLshiat!

As someone who has experienced severe back pain most of my life, and having 1 lumbar fusion, 2 neck fusions, and lost and lots of disc herniations I can say in all honesty, muscle relaxers don't do shiat. I don't care if it's soma, flexeril, robaxin, skelaxin, zanaflex, baclofen, lorzone, norflex, etc. Muscle relaxers are only good for pain associated with muscle spasm/cramps presuming those muscles aren't farked from the nerves misfiring.  Further there are muscle relaxants that do screw with your liver like dantrium.

The shiat that will bork your liver in the opiate pain medicines is the damn tylenol they put in it a lot of them. You can get the drugs without the liver damaging parts. Just ask your doctor. Vicodin comes without tylenol, so does codeine, oxycodone, etc. Hell, if you like the anti-inflammatory part but hate tylenol they can even give you a different type (percodan has aspirin instead of tylenol like percocet.

So sure it may be an option for some, but don't harass your doctor about them because he may know more than you do about the underlying issues.
 
2013-04-03 03:12:51 PM  

citizenj: Nucynta


How do you function on Lyrica? I couldn't and I was at a low dose. Did you eventually get used to it or did you respond to it well from the beginning? I felt like a zombie with a flu if that makes sense. Odd feverish body aches to replace the other pains and general lethargy.
 
2013-04-03 03:13:25 PM  

citizenj: flexeril


That's my go to for severe spazms. It's like a chemical massage and gives me marshmallow dreams. Sadly not covered by insurance. They will cover baclofen which works but it's nastier on my guts/mental state as well as the crummy acetaminophen based stuff. I've been told about Nucynta before but I'm a little wary of meds that haven't been around long.

One day I hope all this sh*t will leave my life. I've been able to stretch/exercise more which really is the only way to get chronic muscular/skeletal pain under control in the long run. It's just a real b*tch getting to a point where you can even move enough to DO the necessary exercises.

It's a terrible thing to live with. To all my pain consumed brothers and sisters out there... don't give up. Keep your mind occupied in the bad times and do EVERYTHING you can to regain some control over your body.

Peace.
 
2013-04-03 03:20:35 PM  

here to help: citizenj: flexeril

That's my go to for severe spazms. It's like a chemical massage and gives me marshmallow dreams. Sadly not covered by insurance. They will cover baclofen which works but it's nastier on my guts/mental state as well as the crummy acetaminophen based stuff. I've been told about Nucynta before but I'm a little wary of meds that haven't been around long.

One day I hope all this sh*t will leave my life. I've been able to stretch/exercise more which really is the only way to get chronic muscular/skeletal pain under control in the long run. It's just a real b*tch getting to a point where you can even move enough to DO the necessary exercises.

It's a terrible thing to live with. To all my pain consumed brothers and sisters out there... don't give up. Keep your mind occupied in the bad times and do EVERYTHING you can to regain some control over your body.

Peace.


Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.
 
2013-04-03 03:22:58 PM  

ReverendJynxed: BULLshiat!


Excuse me? Don't be a dick. For pinched nerves caused by spazmed muscles muscle relaxer are an excellent option. Opiates don't do crap to ease up muscle tension. If you get those muscles loosened up they ease up on the nerve that was binding up the muscles that were pinching the nerve. It's a cycle that needs to be broken in many cases. Massage therapy and physio are good ways to accomplish this as well but are extremely costly and painful (if you can even GET to the office in the first place).

And yes they are bad for you but for the effectiveness versus liver poisoning factor muscle relaxer will do a f*ck of a lot more for you than acetaminophen filled crap.
 
2013-04-03 03:27:12 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.


Definitely. That's why physio is so great. A good PT will give you small, easy but effective exercises to keep things moving enough. Once you stop moving you are doomed.

Anyway... didn't mean to get snippy in that last post but damn... I've been through the pain. I wouldn't talk sh*t about this type of thing.

Feel better. Keep moving. Good luck.
 
2013-04-03 03:33:12 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing


Seconded.  I know a guy who took Baytril for a few days.  He stopped when the spiders on his bedroom ceiling wouldn't go away.
 
2013-04-03 03:34:09 PM  
Oh and the fusions are likely why the relaxers ain't working as well for you. With a slipped disc if muscles ease up the disc has a better chance of backing of the nerves. Fusion... well nothing is moving so all you can do is seek relief. That's where there isn't much choice aside from trying to mask the pain until you can get surgery. At least AFAIK... I haven;t had to deal with fusion yet.
 
2013-04-03 03:34:14 PM  

here to help: ReverendJynxed: Yeah I think the key to to not stop moving. I'm either moving or stuck in my chair and the longer I can go before sitting down the better.

Definitely. That's why physio is so great. A good PT will give you small, easy but effective exercises to keep things moving enough. Once you stop moving you are doomed.

Anyway... didn't mean to get snippy in that last post but damn... I've been through the pain. I wouldn't talk sh*t about this type of thing.

Feel better. Keep moving. Good luck.


Some would argue that the pain is causing you to tense up more so and removing the stressor (the pain) is enough and for many it is. This is why I specifically mentioned the difference. It isn't the end all like you initially presented. Each case is different. My muscles are come and go, while my nerve damage is permanent. Some folks with chronic back problems don't have issues with the muscles at all.

When it came to physical therapy it seemed to cause more harm than good because the idiots running it wanted to treat it like a sprain etc. and exercise exercise exercise to the point of causing more injury. I suppose it is sort of the same mindset that chiropractors have in thinking they know better and can do no wrong even if they are clearly making things worse. "We don't use drugs so we are better" isn't.

At any rate, glad you got something that works for you. Have a good one.
 
2013-04-03 03:38:12 PM  

here to help: Oh and the fusions are likely why the relaxers ain't working as well for you. With a slipped disc if muscles ease up the disc has a better chance of backing of the nerves. Fusion... well nothing is moving so all you can do is seek relief. That's where there isn't much choice aside from trying to mask the pain until you can get surgery. At least AFAIK... I haven;t had to deal with fusion yet.


Actually we did the fusions BECAUSE none of the other treatments were working. But yes it has sort of stuck on broken.  My discs tore and leaked all over the place so they had to be removed to get the material off the nerves. The disc material was removed so nothing there to heal, but the nerves are damaged.
 
2013-04-03 04:00:20 PM  

ReverendJynxed: At any rate, glad you got something that works for you. Have a good one.


Well... I've had to come up with my own regimen that's been cobbled together from all the various good and numbnuts doctors I've dealt with over the years. I'll never be what I once was but I'm happy enough to not be constantly twisted up to the point of being completely immobile.

Didn't realize yours was an intentional fusion. I'm not sure on this but I've heard that eventually the nerves realize that they are no longer doing anything but causing a problem and just die (happened to me and lost a lot of mobility). But building up other secondary muscles to compensate seems to have gotten some strength back. I know it's expensive as f*ck and very painful but you should keep looking for physio docs that aren't gung ho assholes (yes I know the type you are talking about). The best ones will give you exercises where you are barely moving to build up small secondary muscle which give enough strength to work on other muscles and so on and so on. It sounds like you have a lot wrong with you though so it would be a big challenge finding enough muscle groups to compensate but there are people out there who can help.

One thing you might want to check out is very simple yoga exercises. I can't describe what I do in text and really it's all very specific to the individual but many PT exercises are extremely similar to yoga moves.

IDK... I hope you don't mind some stranger telling you this that and the other but I know how much it sucks and I know that with even seemingly meaningless daily exercises that it is possible to break some thresholds.

Best to ya.
 
2013-04-03 05:47:22 PM  

ReverendJynxed: citizenj: Nucynta

How do you function on Lyrica? I couldn't and I was at a low dose. Did you eventually get used to it or did you respond to it well from the beginning? I felt like a zombie with a flu if that makes sense. Odd feverish body aches to replace the other pains and general lethargy.


Apparently I have the tolerance of two or three grizzly bears.

I take 50mg 4x's day w/ everything else.

Just gotta get used to it I guess.
 
2013-04-03 06:02:16 PM  
A woman once asked my mom if she could have our 90 lb. German Shepherd's painkillers.

She also requested a local anesthetic for her daughter, who was having her wisdom teeth taken out, so she could get free painkillers.

Good role model :/
 
2013-04-03 07:03:54 PM  

kitsuneymg: FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


For fark's sake...

Look for Hydrocodone/APAP on the bottle.

Also, anyone recommending Ultram/Tramadol (not you) is a bit off. It isn't a good drug.
 
2013-04-03 07:11:01 PM  

ReverendJynxed: zanaflex


However, it is wonderful when mixed with scotch.
 
2013-04-03 07:12:49 PM  

Somaticasual: BarkingUnicorn: Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.

I'm not sure that's going to convince the sun to drop its pay wall..

//sorry, couldn't help it..


Just got Firefox 20 yesterday.  I'm liking the ability to right-click a Fark icon, select "launch private browing window," and slip past paywalls after I run out of monthly freebies.
 
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