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2013-04-03 11:00:03 AM  
Suppositories at least I hope..

/kind of jealous
 
2013-04-03 11:09:50 AM  
Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?
 
2013-04-03 11:10:17 AM  
Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?
 
2013-04-03 11:10:20 AM  
Think of the children this monster was,,,,
What?
Just a few/day for herself?
Never mind.

But, but, but The Law!!!
 
2013-04-03 11:12:19 AM  
She was working a full-time job that didn't offer health insurance and/or didn't pay her enough to afford health insurance?  I thought job creators were better people than that...
 
2013-04-03 11:12:27 AM  
She stole them because she doesn't have health insurance.

Welp...no worries, we'll take care of your medical while you sit in a jail, but those of you still on the outside, you're still farked.

Socialism!
 
2013-04-03 11:13:22 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


I wouldn't think so. I get prescriptions filled for my dog at walgreens just like my own.  I would imagine the doses are smaller.
 
2013-04-03 11:13:23 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


Nope, come out of the very same kerchunk kerchunk machine.
Sometimes a different color.
Same pill could go for .1-2 cents or 10-20 dollars, same pill, drug, machine, the difference is salesmanship.

You do know the difference between Rape and Rapture???
 
2013-04-03 11:13:31 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No they are the same thing. Before the law changed, I would go to the farm and feed store to get antibiotics since I couldn't afford to go to a doctor.

Now I just found a doctor who doesn't give a shiat and phones in my scripts for ten bucks a call.
 
2013-04-03 11:16:15 AM  
We had a dog with serious skin allergies and the medicine that worked best was Neoral, an expensive anti-rejection drug for humans.

When the Labrador Retriever died, we sent the remaining pills to a sister-in-law who takes the identical anti-rejection drugs.  Her nose is colder and wetter these days.
 
2013-04-03 11:16:56 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.
 
2013-04-03 11:17:40 AM  
Writing fraudulent prescriptions is bad enough, but stealing Clay Matthews' hair? String her up!
 
2013-04-03 11:18:09 AM  
Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.
 
2013-04-03 11:18:47 AM  

algrant33: FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.


Dammit not Rimadyl. Tramadol.

/ftfm
 
2013-04-03 11:20:38 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No they are the same thing. Before the law changed, I would go to the farm and feed store to get antibiotics since I couldn't afford to go to a doctor.

Now I just found a doctor who doesn't give a shiat and phones in my scripts for ten bucks a call.


You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think
 
2013-04-03 11:22:03 AM  

ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.


or it was vicodin which is tylenol and hydrocodone in the same pill... but keep farking that chicken
 
2013-04-03 11:22:40 AM  

ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.


They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.
 
2013-04-03 11:24:15 AM  

Mazzic518: You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think


Its becoming increasingly harder, and the quality has gone to shiat. Last one I tried that with, it came wrapped in a news paper written in Arabic and the pills smelled foul.
 
2013-04-03 11:24:39 AM  
ObamaCare!
 
2013-04-03 11:25:38 AM  
abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:


Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.
 
2013-04-03 11:25:44 AM  
When the cop questioned her, outside of work, she reeked of alcohol.

'BUT I NEED MAH PILLS FOR MAH PAIN, IMMA VICTIM'

No you don't, you're just a dope fiend trying to justify your next score.
 
2013-04-03 11:28:39 AM  

show me: ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.


This.

OD on the opiates? Death is quick and painless.

OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.
 
2013-04-03 11:30:22 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mazzic518: You can order antibiotics online with no scrip still I think

Its becoming increasingly harder, and the quality has gone to shiat. Last one I tried that with, it came wrapped in a news paper written in Arabic and the pills smelled foul.



http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally
 
2013-04-03 11:31:28 AM  

Amos Quito: show me: ocirats: Kraus used the sheets - stolen from Floresta's vet, Dr. Jean Burns - to obtain 240 Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen pills.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol.  Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.

This.

OD on the opiates? Death is quick and painless.

OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.


You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend
 
2013-04-03 11:33:01 AM  
Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing
 
2013-04-03 11:35:00 AM  
"Listen, this is the time to help yourself," he told her, according to the arrest report.

Beware of any cop spouting that line. Hell, beware of ANY cop...
 
2013-04-03 11:37:56 AM  

FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption?  Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?


No. There are drugs that are strictly for veterinary usage, but drugs that are also used in human medicine are the same. Only the dosage sizes may be smaller for packaging for veterinary usage. But this is actually pretty unusual, because of costs. Usually an adult of pediatric dosage is prescribed and pills are divided. Capsules are usually dissolved in a liquid medium, but you have to find a compounding pharmacist for this. There are compounding veterinary pharmacists who use liquid media that is formulated to be tasty to dogs and cats.
 
2013-04-03 11:38:19 AM  

Mazzic518: http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally


Cef is my go to staple, but the last one was a deep tissue infection and needed the big guns. My own damn fault for cutting myself on sheet metal though.
 
2013-04-03 11:39:05 AM  

mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?


NO NO NO!!!111  Don't you remember what Limbaugh said?  "Let them rot in prison."

Where is Rush nowadays?
 
2013-04-03 11:39:27 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mazzic518: http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-flex-cephalexin.html

I use those occasionally

Cef is my go to staple, but the last one was a deep tissue infection and needed the big guns. My own damn fault for cutting myself on sheet metal though.


ouch.... wich reminds me i am way overdue on a tetanus shot...
 
2013-04-03 11:42:35 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing


My brother got some pet meds for himself, but his wife made him stop taking them when he wouldn't quit chasing cars and licking his balls.
 
2013-04-03 11:46:04 AM  
i had a former brother in-law that would eat painkillers for a 150 to 175 lb Newfoundland.
It didn't turn out good.
 
2013-04-03 11:49:27 AM  

show me: Clemkadidlefark: Many vet drugs are fine for humans

Just be sure you know what you're doing

My brother got some pet meds for himself, but his wife made him stop taking them when he wouldn't quit chasing cars and licking his balls.


Licking his balls is impressive enough but, whoa Momma, to do that while chasing a car is really something.
 
2013-04-03 11:53:16 AM  
I'm liking this Firefox v20.  Ran out of free articles on Sun-Sentinel. Right-click on Fark icon, select  "open link in private browsing window," and voila!

Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.
 
2013-04-03 11:56:45 AM  

FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.


The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.
 
2013-04-03 11:58:39 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Hope we see a lot less of this tragic dilemma when Obamacare kicks in fully.


I'm not sure that's going to convince the sun to drop its pay wall..

//sorry, couldn't help it..
 
2013-04-03 12:43:01 PM  
I owe my father in law an apology. There is a use for a dead dog after all

/worst dowry ever
 
2013-04-03 12:51:43 PM  
240 pills over 150 days, roughly 2 pills a day.  Like an amount someone would take for pain control not addiction.  If it was 240 in a week or two it would be more like addiction feeding.

Sad stuff, multiple felonies for stealing sheets of paper to control pain.
 
2013-04-03 12:53:57 PM  

Mazzic518: OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.

You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend


Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg.  That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills.  Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them.  It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg: The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


5-7.5 mg is TINY.  500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill.  When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone.  But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE.  800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human.  Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally.  You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.
 
2013-04-03 01:02:05 PM  

kitsuneymg: ts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


Called the vet, vet said nothing to worry about.  Thanks for the advice.
 
2013-04-03 01:03:31 PM  

Mazzic518: You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend


Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )
I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.
Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

/VA sends me a 180 Vicodine a month
//Tolerance is a motherfarker.
 
2013-04-03 01:23:50 PM  

Firethorn: Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg. That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills. Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them. It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.


Ibuprofin is not Acetaminophen.

BTW... the only reason acetaminophin is legal is because it was grandfathered in by the FDA. If it had been invented today there is no way it would have past safety regs it's that dangerous. Why they continue to use it as a base for pain meds is beyond me... well aside from maybe a profit angle. There are much better, less toxic alternatives available now.
 
2013-04-03 01:34:25 PM  

MythDragon: Mazzic518: You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend

Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )
I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.
Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

/VA sends me a 180 Vicodine a month
//Tolerance is a motherfarker.


Tramadol is opiate like, but it is not a synthetic opiate.

Vicodin also comes in 10/375.

/the more you know!
 
2013-04-03 01:38:37 PM  

kitsuneymg: FarknGroovn: abhorrent1:
snocone:
MyKingdomForYourHorse:
algrant33:

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However,  doesn't that usually have tylenol in it?  Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.


Except in Vicoprofen
 
2013-04-03 01:39:54 PM  

Firethorn: Mazzic518: OD on Tylenol? That's going out the hard way.

You can take 4000mg of Tylenol a day...

/heard from a friend

Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg.  That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills.  Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them.  It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg: The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

5-7.5 mg is TINY.  500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill.  When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone.  But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE.  800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human.  Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally.  You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.


Motrin is not Tylenol.....
 
2013-04-03 01:45:13 PM  
I gave my cats Xanax before a long car trip. Big ass mistake.
 
2013-04-03 01:55:42 PM  

mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?


My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.
 
2013-04-03 02:11:20 PM  

booger42: I owe my father in law an apology. There is a use for a dead dog after all


Actually, in addition to getting prescription drugs, there's also another use for a dead dog.

So that's two things they're good for!
 
2013-04-03 02:11:38 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?

My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.


Ouch.  That's terrible.  Sorry for your loss, fellow farker.  I'm not sure which is worse, workplace injuries or the meds prescribed for them.
 
2013-04-03 02:32:56 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.


That sucks and I know that feel. Shame he couldn't hang on. I've been in those dark moments for months/years on end where you just want it to end because you can't do ANYTHING and the pain seems like it will NEVER go away. Fortunately I toughed it out and did my best to keep my mind occupied. Life still blows and the pain is still constantly there but the "KILL ME NOW" level of pain has subsided enough that I can at least work on the computer for more than ten minutes at a time.

Non-stop debilitating pain can be very lonely and does terrible things to a person's mental well being.

Sorry for your loss.
 
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