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2013-04-03 01:30:30 PM
i306.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-03 01:31:40 PM
Relax, folks.  It's just a Job Creator who has not been given sufficient tax cuts, trying to make ends meet.
 
2013-04-03 01:32:41 PM

tuna fingers: Slaves2Darkness: URAPNIS: With so many other people abusing the "system", who gives a shiat, really?

Really, got any had facts on how many are abusing the system or are you just going by the general hatred spewed at the poor by Fox news.

Simmer down.
I read his comment too, and "the system" isn't just food stamps.  C'mon it's tax time, this is the time of year that the people of this great nation pay good money to have professionals write down that our unfinished basement is actually a home office.


Ahh, so you are one of those good Christian Fox news watchers who advocate theft, because really fraud is theft, from the government. I've never been sure why they bang on about the 10 commandments, but seem to violate them on a regular basis.
 
2013-04-03 01:32:53 PM

Slaves2Darkness: The real crime and shame here is that according to the 2010 census 34.2% of US families are on welfare. That's right 1/3 of US families receive welfare.


Define 'welfare.'

15% are on food stamps.
 
2013-04-03 01:35:36 PM

Slaves2Darkness: tuna fingers: Slaves2Darkness: URAPNIS: With so many other people abusing the "system", who gives a shiat, really?

Really, got any had facts on how many are abusing the system or are you just going by the general hatred spewed at the poor by Fox news.

Simmer down.
I read his comment too, and "the system" isn't just food stamps.  C'mon it's tax time, this is the time of year that the people of this great nation pay good money to have professionals write down that our unfinished basement is actually a home office.

Ahh, so you are one of those good Christian Fox news watchers who advocate theft, because really fraud is theft, from the government. I've never been sure why they bang on about the 10 commandments, but seem to violate them on a regular basis.


Wrong on all accounts.  It was called "snark".
 
2013-04-03 01:37:15 PM

URAPNIS: With so many other people abusing the "system", who gives a shiat, really?


I really wish it were this much fun to read about politicians stealing our money and giving it to their rich buddies. Or maybe a story about rich farmers who still take billions in subsidies. Then, we would have some other forms of government waste to sensationalize. The purpose of these kinds of stories is to give you the feeling that the reason you're broke is that other broke people are taking your money.


/Meanwhile, the guy who has 1,000 times more money that you both is assumed to have "earned" all of it.
 
2013-04-03 01:43:17 PM

impaler: Slaves2Darkness: Really, got any had facts on how many are abusing the system or are you just going by the general hatred spewed at the poor by Fox news.

I was at the store the other day, and I saw the girl in front of me buy lobster with her food stamps. Then I saw her jump in a Cadillac and leave.

Now you may wonder why I would be such a busy body, but you should be asking how I saw her jump in a car when I was at the register being rung up.


How did you see her jump in a car when you were at the register being rung up?
 
2013-04-03 01:44:33 PM

Scorpio Rex: But he couldn't have bought the food stamps at just cents on the dollar if the undercover agent hadn't provided them, right?  So without police involvement there couldn't have been a crime.  Or am I missing something?


Knowledge.
 
2013-04-03 01:47:59 PM

Z1P2: What about kicking those who sold them off the roles? Clearly they didn't need them for food.


That happens.  One is barred from re-applying for several years.
 
2013-04-03 01:56:20 PM

Farce-Side: AbbeySomeone: The Lord helps those that help themselves.

/bootstrappy, etc.

Something, something, job creators, something, something, welfare state.


^This is why I love Fark.

Also, you know It's getting rough for small business owners in CA when they start defrauding the food stamp program.
 
2013-04-03 01:57:11 PM
Did he use them to try to mail a watermelon?

not obscure
 
2013-04-03 01:59:39 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I would give EBT card holders a shopping list and make them go buy my stuff, bring it to me, and pay them half its cost.  I have a business to run, no time for Walmart or cops.


The card holders just want the money  fast, usually to feed a drug habit, otherwise they could get even more money just by hanging around a grocery store, and offering the shoppers to pay for their purchase at 80 cents on the dollar, instead of the 40, or 50 the guy at the store is giving them.

Scorpio Rex: But he couldn't have bought the food stamps at just cents on the dollar if the undercover agent hadn't provided them, right?  So without police involvement there couldn't have been a crime.  Or am I missing something?


Yeah, technically it's entrapment, but cops do it all the time.
Take undercover drug sales for example.
The crime of selling the drugs wouldn't have occurred had the cop not been there to buy them at the time.
 
2013-04-03 02:01:40 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Farce-Side: AbbeySomeone: The Lord helps those that help themselves.

/bootstrappy, etc.

Something, something, job creators, something, something, welfare state.

^This is why I love Fark.

Also, you know It's getting rough for small business owners in CA when they start defrauding the food stamp program.


They've been doing it in NYC every day since the food stamp program first started.
 
2013-04-03 02:08:21 PM

impaler: Slaves2Darkness: Really, got any had facts on how many are abusing the system or are you just going by the general hatred spewed at the poor by Fox news.

I was at the store the other day, and I saw the girl in front of me buy lobster with her food stamps. Then I saw her jump in a Cadillac and leave.

Now you may wonder why I would be such a busy body, but you should be asking how I saw her jump in a car when I was at the register being rung up.


Her pimp parked in the fire lane right outside the door.  Seen it a zillion times.
 
2013-04-03 02:12:33 PM

impaler: Slaves2Darkness: Really, got any had facts on how many are abusing the system or are you just going by the general hatred spewed at the poor by Fox news.

I was at the store the other day, and I saw the girl in front of me buy lobster with her food stamps. Then I saw her jump in a Cadillac and leave.

Now you may wonder why I would be such a busy body, but you should be asking how I saw her jump in a car when I was at the register being rung up.


Trying for some more upskirts, right?
 
2013-04-03 02:14:39 PM

master_dman: Did you RTFA?  Your missing the other 80,000 people that did it besides the pigs.


FTFA: Detectives said Abu Diab's register had $88,000 in EBT card transactions, according to WFTV. 

So the symbol "$" means "people" now, does it?
 
2013-04-03 02:21:48 PM

TommyymmoT: Yeah, technically it's entrapment, but cops do it all the time.
Take undercover drug sales for example.
The crime of selling the drugs wouldn't have occurred had the cop not been there to buy them at the time.


That is a cop buying the drugs, not providing the drugs (which they do also... remember D.C. mayor Marion Barry?  All he wanted was some leg.)

The EBT cards are issued by the government and the government only, correct?  It seems they produced these EBT cards with the express purpose of offering them at well below market price to manufacture a criminal.  Sure, the guy jumped at the chance, but spending thousands of tax payer dollars to create criminals when there are plenty enough out there already just seems wrong.
 
2013-04-03 02:22:51 PM

TommyymmoT: BarkingUnicorn: I would give EBT card holders a shopping list and make them go buy my stuff, bring it to me, and pay them half its cost.  I have a business to run, no time for Walmart or cops.

The card holders just want the money  fast, usually to feed a drug habit, otherwise they could get even more money just by hanging around a grocery store, and offering the shoppers to pay for their purchase at 80 cents on the dollar, instead of the 40, or 50 the guy at the store is giving them.


So the businessman competes with passersby. I would take into account the risk I was running and pay less than you suggest, as the guy in TFA seems to have done. Or I'd say fark it, aint worth the risk.

Scorpio Rex: But he couldn't have bought the food stamps at just cents on the dollar if the undercover agent hadn't provided them, right?  So without police involvement there couldn't have been a crime.  Or am I missing something?

Yeah, technically it's entrapment, but cops do it all the time.
Take undercover drug sales for example.
The crime of selling the drugs wouldn't have occurred had the cop not been there to buy them at the time.


"Two competing tests exist for determining whether entrapment has taken place, known as the "subjective" and "objective" tests. The "subjective" test looks at the defendant's state of mind; entrapment can be claimed if the defendant had no "predisposition" to commit the crime. The "objective" test looks instead at the government's conduct; entrapment occurs when the actions of government officers would have caused a normally law-abiding person to commit a crime.[4] "

It is not entrapment to ask a person if he wants to buy drugs or food stamps; it is merely an inquiry into his state of mind.  Nor is it entrapment to pretend to be amenable to a request for drugs or food stamps.
 
2013-04-03 02:35:01 PM
dude sounds like a real winner. this is the kind of crap that needs to be stopped.  sadly it is hard to stop and track.
 
2013-04-03 02:46:30 PM
Shoot, Sir Mix-a-lot gave dollar for dollar back in the day.
 
2013-04-03 02:50:23 PM

master_dman: I'm SHOCKED that welfare fraud is rampant.


You should be shocked, since welfare fraud is not rampant at all. Unless of course you think that any non-zero amount is "rampant", but in that case you need to consult a dictionary.
 
2013-04-03 03:11:37 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Farce-Side: AbbeySomeone: The Lord helps those that help themselves.

/bootstrappy, etc.

Something, something, job creators, something, something, welfare state.

^This is why I love Fark.

Also, you know It's getting rough for small business owners in CA when they start defrauding the food stamp program.



At least they will have a bullet train
 
2013-04-03 03:21:44 PM

Scorpio Rex: master_dman: Did you RTFA?  Your missing the other 80,000 people that did it besides the pigs.

FTFA: Detectives said Abu Diab's register had $88,000 in EBT card transactions, according to WFTV. 

So the symbol "$" means "people" now, does it?


Corporation$ are people, my friend...
 
2013-04-03 03:27:25 PM
Stupid man. He should know that you are only entitled to use public money to prop up your business if you're a major bank or investment firm.
 
2013-04-03 03:33:00 PM

Gordon Bennett: Stupid man. He should know that you are only entitled to use public money to prop up your business if you're a major bank or investment firm.


You mean the legally then.
 
2013-04-03 03:45:03 PM

vingamm: I got another set of whys. Why is this a "political" news story? Why are they so animated about it being "your tax dollars?" And why did they not interview the investigators? I am not saying he is not guilty I am just irritated by all the right-wing hype on it. What ever happen to reporting the news for news sake? Every news story now has to have some political backspin to it. I frankly do not watch TV news or subscribe to any paper that leans left or right. If I see too much about something in one direction I take it off my reading list


I was wondering the same thing, until I saw it was the Washington Examiner. Everything is political there.
 
2013-04-03 03:52:57 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: URAPNIS: With so many other people abusing the "system", who gives a shiat, really?

I really wish it were this much fun to read about politicians stealing our money and giving it to their rich buddies. Or maybe a story about rich farmers who still take billions in subsidies. Then, we would have some other forms of government waste to sensationalize. The purpose of these kinds of stories is to give you the feeling that the reason you're broke is that other broke people are taking your money.


/Meanwhile, the guy who has 1,000 times more money that you both is assumed to have "earned" all of it.


But we have to keep subsidizing Monsanto, or Ma and Pa farmer will go out of business and get gobbled up by the greedy cities!
 
2013-04-03 05:45:44 PM

foxyshadis: DROxINxTHExWIND: URAPNIS: With so many other people abusing the "system", who gives a shiat, really?

I really wish it were this much fun to read about politicians stealing our money and giving it to their rich buddies. Or maybe a story about rich farmers who still take billions in subsidies. Then, we would have some other forms of government waste to sensationalize. The purpose of these kinds of stories is to give you the feeling that the reason you're broke is that other broke people are taking your money.


/Meanwhile, the guy who has 1,000 times more money that you both is assumed to have "earned" all of it.

But we have to keep subsidizing Monsanto, or Ma and Pa farmer will go out of business and get gobbled up by the greedy cities!


i28.photobucket.com

For the record, I'm glad those asshats got caught, and I hope they have to pay back the money they scammed, but they are small potatoes compared to the real grift going on in the U.S. Unlike the people who get their "news" from the Washington Examiner, I'm pretty damn sure it's not poor people on food stamps who are actively running this country into the ground.
 
2013-04-03 07:08:58 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: master_dman: I'm SHOCKED that welfare fraud is rampant.

You should be shocked, since welfare fraud is not rampant at all. Unless of course you think that any non-zero amount is "rampant", but in that case you need to consult a dictionary.


We don't know the frequency of this kind of fraud because it's hard to detect.  Even malnourished children aren't a good indicator of food stamp diversion.  So you're both blowing smoke.
 
2013-04-03 08:24:15 PM
"What'cha you doing?"

"Trying to extrapolate the total amount of nickel and dime welfare fraud that is doubtless extant from the vast variety of assumptions that present themselves from one story of fraud."

"You do realize that AIG just unceremoniously bent he treasury over the hood of it's car to the tune of 53,000,000,000.00 and blew some of it on golf outings, don't you?

"Don't confuse me."
 
2013-04-03 10:36:54 PM
*reads headline*
*makes educated guess about ethnicity of the offender*
*opens article*
 
2013-04-03 11:54:14 PM
Shrapnel:

Problem: somebody gets caught abusing food stamps. Solution: get rid of food stamps.

Fark that: I'd farking starve. I might have to eat people.

My SNAP (formerly known as Food Stamps) goes solely to food. And thanks to the taxpayers I eat better than ever before; mind you I grew up poor in an era when poor meant underfed. My benefits, which I'm grateful for, get treated with deep respect. Don't punish me for the actions of a few tweakers and pillheads.

So, anyway, is it less reprehensible to eat 5 year olds than to molest them? I have no sexual attraction to them whatsoever, but there are times when they look rather tasty. Tender. Succulent. Juicy.
 
2013-04-04 12:14:23 AM
Big_Fat_Liar: 

I can't be bothered to give a shiat.  Our government wastes so much money that a little extra spent in-country, by real people, even if they are scammers, just doesn't bother me.


Thank you. But I'm still going to use my benefits as they're intended. I learned decades ago that life is easier when you're not addicted to anything illegal and expensive, and it's actually nice to have to worry about being overweight for a change.


How much did we decide to spend to study why lesbians are fat?

Lesbians are fat? Not the lesbians I fall in love with. The easiest way to get me to kill for somebody would be to be gorgeous without makeup, carry yourself like Theresa Russell, be otherwise tomboyish if not butch, and have no use for men except to occasionally take pity on me. Cynicism is also useful except when applied to me: anybody can see I'm too stupid to have ulterior motives, that when I say "I just want to be near you!" that's literally very true. Is it any wonder that I'd rather drink alone at home than risk anything like a social life?

Speaking of which, Bulleit 95% Rye is pretty damn good. And what good are a liver and a brain if you can't devote your not-strictly-necessary cash to beaing on them? (I've been wearing the same underwear for 12 years or more, though yes I do wash them, and I wear my $10 Wal-Mart sneakers till they literally fall apart.)

Anyway.
 
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