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(Washington Post)   US [battling | supporting] [insurgent | freedom] fighters being trained in safe havens across the border from [Afghanistan | Syria]   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 23
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2013-04-03 09:58:01 AM  
No (c)??

Also "right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing while the left hand is washing the right hand behind the back as both hands hand over to the other people's hands"
 
2013-04-03 09:58:23 AM  
I didn't even know they have [oil | heroin] there.
 
2013-04-03 10:01:48 AM  
They'll [greet us as liberators][wage an insurgency against us]
 
2013-04-03 10:04:13 AM  
Careful, Abdullah.  You may be the next victim of the MB.
 
2013-04-03 10:05:04 AM  
What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own.  They want the USAF to do it for them.  Come on, a grow pair.  The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.
 
2013-04-03 10:06:20 AM  

ha-ha-guy: What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own.  They want the USAF to do it for them.  Come on, a grow pair.  The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.


If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.
 
2013-04-03 10:08:01 AM  

ha-ha-guy: What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own.  They want the USAF to do it for them.  Come on, a grow pair.  The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.


It's not they lack the collective testicular fortitude.

It's that they know the US will do it for them, so they get the security without putting their own people and equipment on the line and without having to pay for it all. Countries have been playing the US for decades in the same way because they know America will never pass up an opportunity to demonstrate testicular fortitude.

It's actually quite smart because it always works.
 
2013-04-03 10:13:08 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: ha-ha-guy: What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own.  They want the USAF to do it for them.  Come on, a grow pair.  The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.

If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.


We should leak out a memo that we're considering supporting an IDF lead no fly zone.  See how quickly Saudi Arabia volunteers to lead it after they read that memo.
 
2013-04-03 10:14:36 AM  
I believe this is the first time I've seen regular expressions used correctly in a Fark headline.

Anyone want to put together a Perl script for auto-generating these?
 
2013-04-03 10:16:44 AM  
Meh, brown people with funny names kill brown people with funny names
 
2013-04-03 10:24:35 AM  
Not sure how a feel about this. The rebels in Syria aren't exactly models of forward-thinking opposition, but Assad is no picnic either.

Why are we getting involved in this fight again? Because superpower?
 
2013-04-03 10:27:00 AM  

Elegy: Why are we getting involved in this fight again?


To further the interests of our new favorite ally, the Muslim Brotherhood.
 
2013-04-03 10:27:49 AM  

Elegy: Not sure how a feel about this. The rebels in Syria aren't exactly models of forward-thinking opposition, but Assad is no picnic either.

Why are we getting involved in this fight again? Because superpower?


Iran and Syria are buddy buddy to a certain degree.  So we'd like to see Assad gone, we just don't want the religious rebels to be the ones who get rid of him.
 
2013-04-03 10:39:33 AM  
[Bengazi | Birth Certificate]
 
2013-04-03 10:40:43 AM  

LewDux: Meh, brown people with funny names kill brown people with funny names


what a brown person with a funny name might look like
lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-04-03 11:00:32 AM  
Never heard before opinion. Why don't we just get the hell out of that regions way and let it shred itself? To appease all the busybodies out there, we could always check back when the dust settles.
 
2013-04-03 11:42:59 AM  
there is money to be made (just not by you)

think of all the contracts to be let for mil equipment (whether it is actually needed or not), rebuilding (whether it actually happens or not), medical care (check out the va backlog to determine the priority of that), television entertainment for the masses, distraction from other issues
its a total win situation

you dont want to be accused of hating america do you? or being soft on terrorists?
and besides, anyone who actually loses someone there will likely end up supporting it (rather than to imagine that they lost someone for no reason)
 
2013-04-03 12:13:01 PM  
It's that damn George Bush again!
 
2013-04-03 12:43:43 PM  

biglot: Never heard before opinion. Why don't we just get the hell out of that regions way and let it shred itself? To appease all the busybodies out there, we could always check back when the dust settles.


Because (WARNING: TFA): But the officials cited growing concern that moderate rebel forces, who have fought effectively in the south and around Damascus, would be overtaken by extremist Islamic fighters who have become dominant in northern areas under rebel control.

Of cause for our resident Derps, they're all scary Muslims
 
2013-04-03 03:13:08 PM  
Probably should of thought twice about training and equipping insurgents in Iraq.  Anyone think the US doesn't keep tabs on who's farking with them?  I can't wait to see what happens to Pakistan once we wash our hands of them
 
2013-04-03 04:21:23 PM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

Pssst ... Hey, are we fighting or or against the government?

ClA's not taking any chances. Some of us are for it and some of us are gonna be against it.
 
2013-04-04 10:16:23 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott:

If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.

Except that the Alawites ruling Syria are not considered real Muslims by most Sunnis. Which helps explain a large part of the "uprising": militant jihadists want to "cleanse" Syria of its religious and secular minorities.

Which is why I'm neutral in this conflict: on the one hand I abhor the al-Assad family's dictatorship, but on the other a large part of their opposition is Bin Laden-style scum. It's too bad the bystanding civilians can't go somewhere else while these fighters kill each other.

One solution is to return to the French strategy of making areas where these "minorities" are in the majority into autonomous or independent statelets and letting the Sunnis have the rest of the country. The only reason the various minorities linked up and gave power to the al-Assads in the first place was self-defense: only if they had power could they keep the Sunnis from continuing to oppress them. It's just too bad they picked that kleptomaniac family to support.

Note that the Assad regime is as secular as they can get away with, and that something like the original coalition of minorities under 'Alawi leadership is the best hope for the Western-style or at least Israeli-style "democracy" that the State Dept. would most like to see. It's too bad that it's not bloody likely simply because the region has known nothing but tyranny of one kind or another since c. 2400 BC and because the brands of Islam favored by the region's sheeple-rulers is not conducive to anything but blind obedience and violent conformity. If you want an example see the way the Muslims treat the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

According to Daniel Pipes, who disagree on many things including his support for right-wing Zionism and for the US government's petrocentric agenda in the Mideast, he's got a good argument concerning Syria:  the best thing for "the West" to do is to wait out the war. Let those who are not friends of the US and its (alleged) values fight among themselves instead of troubling the rest of the world. "A pox on both their houses."

Maybe when the dust settles "the West" can help put together a decent government in Syria, which will stave off worse tyrannies until a secular democratic society can evolve. In any event it'll be decades before Syria is ready to be the kind of society I'd want to live in.
 
2013-04-06 11:26:14 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Old_Chief_Scott:

If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.

Except that the Alawites ruling Syria are not considered real Muslims by most Sunnis. Which helps explain a large part of the "uprising": militant jihadists want to "cleanse" Syria of its religious and secular minorities.

Which is why I'm neutral in this conflict: on the one hand I abhor the al-Assad family's dictatorship, but on the other a large part of their opposition is Bin Laden-style scum. It's too bad the bystanding civilians can't go somewhere else while these fighters kill each other.

One solution is to return to the French strategy of making areas where these "minorities" are in the majority into autonomous or independent statelets and letting the Sunnis have the rest of the country. The only reason the various minorities linked up and gave power to the al-Assads in the first place was self-defense: only if they had power could they keep the Sunnis from continuing to oppress them. It's just too bad they picked that kleptomaniac family to support.

Note that the Assad regime is as secular as they can get away with, and that something like the original coalition of minorities under 'Alawi leadership is the best hope for the Western-style or at least Israeli-style "democracy" that the State Dept. would most like to see. It's too bad that it's not bloody likely simply because the region has known nothing but tyranny of one kind or another since c. 2400 BC and because the brands of Islam favored by the region's sheeple-rulers is not conducive to anything but blind obedience and violent conformity. If you want an example see the way the Muslims treat the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

According to Daniel Pipes, who disagree on many things including his support for right-wing Zionism and for the US government's petrocentric agenda in the Mideast, he's got a good argument concerning Syria:  the best thing for "the West" to do is to wait out the ...


That's why we should let Assad and extremists do their thing
 
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