ha-ha-guy: What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own. They want the USAF to do it for them. Come on, a grow pair. The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.
Old_Chief_Scott: ha-ha-guy: What I love is how Saudi Arabia and Jordan can't even find the collective testicular fortitude to establish a no fly zone in the buffer area on their own. They want the USAF to do it for them. Come on, a grow pair. The Saudis have F-15s and Typhoons, the Jordanians have F-16s and yet they're worried about directly confronting whatever MiGs that Syria still has parts for.If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.
Elegy: Why are we getting involved in this fight again?
Elegy: Not sure how a feel about this. The rebels in Syria aren't exactly models of forward-thinking opposition, but Assad is no picnic either.Why are we getting involved in this fight again? Because superpower?
LewDux: Meh, brown people with funny names kill brown people with funny names
biglot: Never heard before opinion. Why don't we just get the hell out of that regions way and let it shred itself? To appease all the busybodies out there, we could always check back when the dust settles.
The One True TheDavid: Old_Chief_Scott:If they get the infidels to do it for them they can't be accused of fighting their Islamic brothers.Except that the Alawites ruling Syria are not considered real Muslims by most Sunnis. Which helps explain a large part of the "uprising": militant jihadists want to "cleanse" Syria of its religious and secular minorities.Which is why I'm neutral in this conflict: on the one hand I abhor the al-Assad family's dictatorship, but on the other a large part of their opposition is Bin Laden-style scum. It's too bad the bystanding civilians can't go somewhere else while these fighters kill each other.One solution is to return to the French strategy of making areas where these "minorities" are in the majority into autonomous or independent statelets and letting the Sunnis have the rest of the country. The only reason the various minorities linked up and gave power to the al-Assads in the first place was self-defense: only if they had power could they keep the Sunnis from continuing to oppress them. It's just too bad they picked that kleptomaniac family to support.Note that the Assad regime is as secular as they can get away with, and that something like the original coalition of minorities under 'Alawi leadership is the best hope for the Western-style or at least Israeli-style "democracy" that the State Dept. would most like to see. It's too bad that it's not bloody likely simply because the region has known nothing but tyranny of one kind or another since c. 2400 BC and because the brands of Islam favored by the region's sheeple-rulers is not conducive to anything but blind obedience and violent conformity. If you want an example see the way the Muslims treat the Coptic Christians in Egypt.According to Daniel Pipes, who disagree on many things including his support for right-wing Zionism and for the US government's petrocentric agenda in the Mideast, he's got a good argument concerning Syria: the best thing for "the West" to do is to wait out the ...
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