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(Sun News Network)   If you're worried that China will eventually take over the world, relax. They're not going to make it through THE AIRPOCALYPSE   (sunnewsnetwork.ca) divider line 82
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2013-04-03 09:24:33 AM

imfallen_angel: bborchar: Harry Freakstorm: I dunno. We did. PittsburgH 1940s.

[boringpittsburgh.com image 644x519]

FTFY.  Anyway, it's amazing how much they've cleaned up around here.  There's a stone church on 6th Ave. in downtown Pittsburgh (First Presbyterian Church) that was stained black by the pollution decades ago.  I called it's "Hell's Church" because the black stone, combine with the gothic look of the church (and the red doors) made it look quite evil.  It underwent a massive restoration project a few years ago, and they sandblasted most of the pollution off of the stones.

Before:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

After:

[www.thelittlelist.net image 480x640]

I see that these pictures are in between when colour started existing too.



You mean back before the 1930's, right?

picayune.uclick.com
 
2013-04-03 09:25:47 AM

Glancing Blow: koreakatz: Though I am sure this is partly pollution, it is the time of year for the Yellow Sand that blows across N.E. Asia. This looks more like yellow sand and a naive reporter.Yellow Dust.

This looks right, the (hourly) montoring (http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/aqirecent3.html) of PM2.5 by the US Embasy in Bejing would imply settling dust.


That's just in regards to a picture.  The unofficial number of deaths related to air pollution in China for 2010 is pegged at around 1.2mil.  And that's just the number that the Chinese government allowed to be printed!
 
2013-04-03 09:34:38 AM

xria: I like this comment below the article:

China reaps the poisonous fruit of generations of failed central economic planning. It's no coincidence that the world's Communist nations are also its worst polluters

Because capitalist countries would never do anything like that...things like governments in western democracies having to pass clean air acts or car emissions regulations is laughable on the face of it, because freely operating private businesses and individuals will just do the right thing in keeping air clean without the heavy hand of government forcing them to pollute.


The point is that, in free countries, the people can actually do something about pollution when they get pissed off about it. But in places like China, they have no say in the matter.
 
2013-04-03 09:36:55 AM
Should we be thanking or condeming WalMart and Apple for this?
 
2013-04-03 09:39:51 AM

xria: I like this comment below the article:

China reaps the poisonous fruit of generations of failed central economic planning. It's no coincidence that the world's Communist nations are also its worst polluters

Because capitalist countries would never do anything like that...things like governments in western democracies having to pass clean air acts or car emissions regulations is laughable on the face of it, because freely operating private businesses and individuals will just do the right thing in keeping air clean without the heavy hand of government forcing them to pollute.


Still, when neither the government nor industry cares, that's what happens. And communist countries have a particularly crummy record.
 
2013-04-03 09:41:06 AM

Crewmannumber6: I know it's hard to get accurate statistics out of there, but is their average life expectancy going down?


Only for those citizens who choose to breathe.
 
2013-04-03 09:42:17 AM

imfallen_angel: bborchar: Harry Freakstorm: I dunno. We did. PittsburgH 1940s.

[boringpittsburgh.com image 644x519]

FTFY.  Anyway, it's amazing how much they've cleaned up around here.  There's a stone church on 6th Ave. in downtown Pittsburgh (First Presbyterian Church) that was stained black by the pollution decades ago.  I called it's "Hell's Church" because the black stone, combine with the gothic look of the church (and the red doors) made it look quite evil.  It underwent a massive restoration project a few years ago, and they sandblasted most of the pollution off of the stones.

Before:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

After:

[www.thelittlelist.net image 480x640]

I see that these pictures are in between when colour started existing too.


oh come on, we started shipping them over way back in the 17th century.

/yeah, i know...
 
2013-04-03 09:48:03 AM
I'm still waiting for the Japanese to take over the world.

To their credit, they really seem to be trying to (slowly) make life better for their people so I don't think they're stupid enough to take over the world. As long as the USA buddies up with corporate filth and greedy tyrants and spends huge amounts of money on war machines while slowly removing all social safety nets for the poor and working class, we'll be number one.... Yay?
 
2013-04-03 09:51:22 AM

Harry Freakstorm: [multimedia.post-gazette.com image 650x525]

Here's another one. As you can see by the clock it's a little past noon. That would be the brightest part of the day and some pedestrians are actually encased in their own personal cloud of pollution. Hats were worn, not to be fashionable but to keep pieces of soot from settling in their hair... OHMAHGAWD! Look! Typewriter store!
I wonder if they had typewriter nerds back then. "Greetings, store owner. I can type 120 words per minutes. Can your typewriter keep up? I would like to try this new machine. I see you have extensive plastic parts. Is that innovation or are you just kowtowing to the Japanese knockoff market? I think I shall give it a simple test. (type type type) Ug! I knew I was a Royal man for a reason. I could barely get 30 words per minute on this thing. The keys are not tactile and the return lever is in the completely wrong position. I also suspect the ribbon will not last long. Good day, sir. I shall take my business down the street for I know there are several typewriter stores in this district alone.


I never realized there were hipster typewriter connoisseurs.
 
2013-04-03 09:51:38 AM

Harry Freakstorm: I wonder if they had typewriter nerds back then. "Greetings, store owner. I can type 120 words per minutes. Can your typewriter keep up?


From what I've heard Asimov would fit the bill. His typing speed was high enough he had to get his Selectric tricked out to match his speed. Although I suspect most farkers have a typing speed high enough that we would have jammed most typewriters produced before the Selectric.
 
2013-04-03 09:52:01 AM

jtown: [multimedia.post-gazette.com image 650x525]

G-g-g-ghosts!


images1.wikia.nocookie.net

 
2013-04-03 09:53:07 AM
Death by air pollution or death by bird flu?

CHOOSE!
 
2013-04-03 10:08:07 AM
farm4.staticflickr.com

Wanchun Pavilion at Jingshan Park 景山 Beijing

At times when I am in the park I cannot ignore the smog. You can see it in the metro.
 
2013-04-03 10:12:08 AM
http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/

I live in Guangzhou and check this often. It's good if you want to see the pollution breakdown. Also below is an interesting little test done comparing cigarettes 2.5 PMI vs. what a car produces. Much of the 2.5 PMI (excluding dust storms) in a major city is caused by car exhaust.

http://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20040823/smoking-worse-than-exhaust-f or -air-pollution
 
2013-04-03 10:23:14 AM

wildcardjack: Harry Freakstorm: I wonder if they had typewriter nerds back then. "Greetings, store owner. I can type 120 words per minutes. Can your typewriter keep up?

From what I've heard Asimov would fit the bill. His typing speed was high enough he had to get his Selectric tricked out to match his speed. Although I suspect most farkers have a typing speed high enough that we would have jammed most typewriters produced before the Selectric.


yeah, but does that include cat-like typing?
 
2013-04-03 10:26:20 AM

bborchar: Harry Freakstorm: I dunno. We did. PittsburgH 1940s.

[boringpittsburgh.com image 644x519]

FTFY.  Anyway, it's amazing how much they've cleaned up around here.  There's a stone church on 6th Ave. in downtown Pittsburgh (First Presbyterian Church) that was stained black by the pollution decades ago.  I called it's "Hell's Church" because the black stone, combine with the gothic look of the church (and the red doors) made it look quite evil.  It underwent a massive restoration project a few years ago, and they sandblasted most of the pollution off of the stones.

Before:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

After:

[www.thelittlelist.net image 480x640]



Thanks for posting these pics. It brings back fond memories from my time in Pittsburgh.

CSB:  I used to eat lunch in the downstairs of that church with coworkers from HJ Heinz. It was only about $6 with a full salad and the profits were used to provide meals to the needy. /CSB
 
2013-04-03 10:47:27 AM

Ginnungagap42: It's almost like they could use some sort of Agency that Protects the Environment...


A.P.E.?
 
2013-04-03 10:55:07 AM
Republicans want this to happen in the United States.....


DOWN WITH THE EPA!

DRILL BABY DRILL!

TOO MANY JOB-KILLING REGULATIONS!
 
2013-04-03 10:56:11 AM

imfallen_angel: wildcardjack: Harry Freakstorm: I wonder if they had typewriter nerds back then. "Greetings, store owner. I can type 120 words per minutes. Can your typewriter keep up?

From what I've heard Asimov would fit the bill. His typing speed was high enough he had to get his Selectric tricked out to match his speed. Although I suspect most farkers have a typing speed high enough that we would have jammed most typewriters produced before the Selectric.

yeah, but does that include cat-like typing?


I don't think anything before the electrics like the Selectric were capable of cat typing. I don't think a cat could operate an Underwood, and hitting two keys at once would jam the mech.
 
2013-04-03 11:09:37 AM

wildcardjack: I don't think anything before the electrics like the Selectric were capable of cat typing. I don't think a cat could operate an Underwood, and hitting two keys at once would jam the mech.


You might be surprised.... hehehe
 
2013-04-03 11:12:07 AM
London Fog wasn't all fog either. They burned a lot of coal in their fireboxes.

wodumedia.com

Pittsburgh wasn't much better at one time.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-04-03 11:19:02 AM
i478.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-03 11:30:32 AM
I could have been wrong.
I have always said we will run out of water before anything else.
I now recognize the contender from the East, Air.
 
2013-04-03 12:02:12 PM

themanuf: imfallen_angel: bborchar: Harry Freakstorm: I dunno. We did. PittsburgH 1940s.

[boringpittsburgh.com image 644x519]

FTFY.  Anyway, it's amazing how much they've cleaned up around here.  There's a stone church on 6th Ave. in downtown Pittsburgh (First Presbyterian Church) that was stained black by the pollution decades ago.  I called it's "Hell's Church" because the black stone, combine with the gothic look of the church (and the red doors) made it look quite evil.  It underwent a massive restoration project a few years ago, and they sandblasted most of the pollution off of the stones.

Before:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

After:

[www.thelittlelist.net image 480x640]

I see that these pictures are in between when colour started existing too.

oh come on, we started shipping them over way back in the 17th century.

/yeah, i know...


Ok that was funny
 
2013-04-03 12:03:54 PM
This is basically what republicans would love to (re)do to the US. Kill the EPA, Kill any environmental regulations, built more coal plants. Build dirtier coal plants. Abandon any kind of lower pollution product.

Cmon, don't you all want 13,000 dead pigs to float down the Mississippi. Wouldn't dirty America be grand.
 
2013-04-03 12:18:19 PM

Harry Freakstorm: I dunno. We did. Pittsburg 1940s.

[boringpittsburgh.com image 644x519]


Gary, IN still looks that way.
 
2013-04-03 01:13:16 PM
Tanukis_ParachuteShould we be thanking or condemning Walmart and Apple for this?


In regards to Beijing whose air filthiness seems to exceed that of other Chinese cities, you can also thank the original planners of the city who decided putting their imperial capital in a valley or bowl area, nowhere near any major body of water (and those small little rivers and lakes don't really count) plus the government and the owners of the local coal firing power plants.
 
2013-04-03 01:16:28 PM

SirEattonHogg: Tanukis_ParachuteShould we be thanking or condemning Walmart and Apple for this?


In regards to Beijing whose air filthiness seems to exceed that of other Chinese cities, you can also thank the original planners of the city who decided putting their imperial capital in a valley or bowl area, nowhere near any major body of water (and those small little rivers and lakes don't really count) plus the government and the owners of the local coal firing power plants.


That's a common issue almost everywhere too. People liked to put cities on those nice flat spots in between and next to mountains. Denver would probably look worse than Beijing if we had 60s style environmental regs.
 
2013-04-03 01:54:02 PM

computerguyUT: Having been there while we were building a manufacturing plant in Beijing recently, I can attest to how horrible the situation over there really is.
The problem is that the Government of China is far worse than any corporation ever dreamed of being.  They don't give a rats ass about the people in any way shape or form.
They simply do NOT care.
One large earthquake would level Beijing because they have NO building codes at all.  The only requirement is the payoff of government officials.
China woke up too late and is the largest economic and environmental disaster this planet will ever see.
It's going to be awesome to watch, but the farrout is going to be horrific and worldwide.


Cue the singers from the Chinese place in A Christmas Story.
 
2013-04-03 03:22:19 PM
Gosh, who would have thought that building hundreds of industrial buildings like smelters and power plants and refineries would lead to pollution...
 
2013-04-03 04:45:25 PM
I refuse to acknowledge the Airpocolypse until I get a slick graphic to pair with this snazzy buzzword.
 
2013-04-04 04:18:29 PM

Mogani: how is anyone still alive over there with that type of pollution..


Adaptation.
 
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