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2013-04-03 12:52:24 AM  

Bisu: Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.

Seriously. Our grandchildren are going to learn an eccentric, former basketball-player started WWIII?


True, Rodman is a low grade moron, but somehow I don't think NK vs US these days is anywhere near WW3.  First, and foremost, neither China nor Russia care what happens to NK, as opposed to the old days.  They want it to be taken care of quickly.  If you recall, we were hopscotching through NK last time until China decided to get involved.  I don't think they are going to care this time.

NK does not have to the capacity to accurately aim or project their one of two dud atomics; therefore, those things aren't coming our way.  They do have tactical capability, SK may take a little hit.  Within the first few hours of an exchange, NK would no longer be able to place anything in the air, which means their armor would be sitting ducks.

After killing the fat boy and his family, then eliminating all of the high hats in the military, the rest of the population will become fair docile.  They have been trained to be docile.

Better to get this over with now, rather than later when some other Pakistani yahoo sells them more nuclear tech.
 
2013-04-03 12:54:22 AM  
s22.postimg.org
 
2013-04-03 12:54:57 AM  
img.auctiva.com


Over hill over dale we will hit the dusty trail
As the Kaesongs go rolling along
Up and down, in and out, Countermarch and right about,
And our Kaesongs go rolling along
For it's hi-hi-hee in the Field Artillery, Shout out the number loud and strong
Till our final ride, It will always be our pride
To keep those Kaesongs a rolling along
 
2013-04-03 12:58:30 AM  

Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.



Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?
 
2013-04-03 12:58:40 AM  

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpzhZUf5OtE

Made me think of this.  1:15-1:40
 
2013-04-03 01:01:09 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ontariolightning: BolloxReader: Weren't there people saying that as long as this complex was going, there wasn't anything to worry about?
I think the game just got interesting.

meh. They've closed it down multiple times before.

Yeah, this.  The North Koreans are assholes, but they're not suicidal.  They'll just continue to bluster and threaten, like a bully in an empty schoolyard.  But also like a bully, they won't throw a punch against anyone who could ever possibly fight back.

I do wonder, though - if they did attack South Korea, what would happen?  Judging by our wars since WII, the U.S. isn't exactly known for winning.  My guess is we'd declare war and then try not to hurt anyone.  Again.


SK would take a whole bunch of hurt, then rally and clean the NK clock.
 
2013-04-03 01:01:41 AM  

Notabunny: I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack


Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that.
 
2013-04-03 01:04:24 AM  

Notabunny: mizchief: davidphogan: Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.

That or, if China's real estate bubble is as bad as it's been rumored they want to get rid of a bunch of 20-30 year old males and blame someone else after they surrender.

That and there are about 25 million more young males than there are women in china, I bet those starving NK chicks are starting to look pretty good to them now.

I'll start

[img.photobucket.com image 800x600]


And she's 62.
 
2013-04-03 01:05:19 AM  
Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.
 
2013-04-03 01:05:22 AM  

Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?


Those civilians will probably try to walk to the nearest border.

I have a coworker from Beijing who says that nork refugees in china are already a problem of some political sensitivity. There are enough that you notice 'em. More coming over the border every day for years. And a lot of them are operating food carts and that sort of thing.

They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.
 
2013-04-03 01:06:55 AM  

Bisu: Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.

Seriously. Our grandchildren are going to learn an eccentric, former basketball-player started WWIII?


Rodman is actually the Primus Illuminatus.
 
2013-04-03 01:06:57 AM  
Um, It's not shutting down? They're only blocking Worst Korea workers?
 
2013-04-03 01:07:13 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: For the life of me, I don't understand why any South Korean would enter North Korean controlled territory.  You KNOW there's a chance of being killed or held hostage.

Officials have also confirmed that the USS John McCain, an Aegis-class destroyer capable of intercepting missiles, has been positioned off the Korean peninsula.

Man, pet peeve of mine.  There's no such thing as an Aegis-class destroyer.  Aegis is a system, not a ship class.


i2.listal.com

/Ok.. it's technically the Ticonderoga class cruisers... but still...
//Couldn't get the game to load half the time... curses be upon DOS.
 
2013-04-03 01:07:41 AM  
What are Alan Alda and Mike Farrell doing this days? Are we going to have to send THEM back?
 
2013-04-03 01:09:02 AM  

Asa Phelps: They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.


Reddit did a great AMA with a North Korean refugee.  It was really interesting.

Oh, here we go.   Link.
 
2013-04-03 01:10:50 AM  

js34603: valar_morghulis: YOU PAY NOW

What happened to you valar? You used to be cool.


He need eat more vegetable.
 
2013-04-03 01:11:46 AM  

Asa Phelps: Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?

Those civilians will probably try to walk to the nearest border.

I have a coworker from Beijing who says that nork refugees in china are already a problem of some political sensitivity. There are enough that you notice 'em. More coming over the border every day for years. And a lot of them are operating food carts and that sort of thing.

They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.


So they are the Mexicans of China?
 
2013-04-03 01:11:52 AM  

davidphogan: Benevolent Misanthrope: I do wonder, though - if they did attack South Korea, what would happen?  Judging by our wars since WII, the U.S. isn't exactly known for winning.  My guess is we'd declare war and then try not to hurt anyone.  Again.

Does China really want to risk triggering WW3, or do they want to send us a bill for helping them "nation build" North Korea?


What has China got anything to do with anything? again most folks are assuming China has much influence on NK when in reality NK pretty much do their own thing and China AT BEST can only persuade them to chill the F out which they have done on numerous oacasion to no avail.
 
2013-04-03 01:12:22 AM  

Asa Phelps: Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?

Those civilians will probably try to walk to the nearest border.

I have a coworker from Beijing who says that nork refugees in china are already a problem of some political sensitivity. There are enough that you notice 'em. More coming over the border every day for years. And a lot of them are operating food carts and that sort of thing.

They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.



If the minefields didn't blow them first.
 
2013-04-03 01:22:06 AM  

Allen262: Asa Phelps: Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?

Those civilians will probably try to walk to the nearest border.

I have a coworker from Beijing who says that nork refugees in china are already a problem of some political sensitivity. There are enough that you notice 'em. More coming over the border every day for years. And a lot of them are operating food carts and that sort of thing.

They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.

So they are the Mexicans of China?


Pretty much.

Also, did you know that Han chinese are the most racist people on earth?

I mean sure they think that black people are magical, but that just means they're weird about their racism.

I remember i was talking to chuck one day and asked what chinese buffet he considers the best. He told me Golden Buffet. I asked him about Ho-Ho Gourmet - said that i had heard that it was pretty good.

And chuck said: "Well, it is pretty good, but the man who owns it, he is from hong kong, so it is not really chinese."

/yes, his real name is not chuck
//That was over a year ago, New Golden Dragon is now the best
///Yes, chinese people like chinese buffets too.
 
2013-04-03 01:22:51 AM  

Sexpun T'Come: Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.


The game of life is hard to play
I'm going to lose it anyways
Someday the losing card I'll someday lay
So this is all I have to say

/Profound song.
//Depressing song.
 
2013-04-03 01:24:17 AM  

Asa Phelps: An attack from the DPRK would hurt, and be expensive to clean up.

But it would also essentially signal the end of the DPRK.

What good is a standing army of 1.5 million men without trucks to transport or supply them, let alone supplies to load onto those truck to feed them?

One carefully placed FAE would put an end to any morale that north korean foot soldiers have.

And then south korea and china will have to deal with an unbelievable influx of refugees.


Field Applications Engineer?
Fundamental Attribution Error?

Oh, I got it!  Fuerza Aérea Ecuatoriana, the Ecuadorian Air Force!
 
2013-04-03 01:24:41 AM  
Satanic_Hamster:

Man, pet peeve of mine. There's no such thing as an Aegis-class destroyer. Aegis is a system, not a ship class.

I'm not up on such things, but I'm gonna guess that not every class of ship can support Aegis.

Pretty sure there aren't many kayaks, canoes or tugboats that are "Aegis class."
 
2013-04-03 01:24:54 AM  

Bisu: Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.

Seriously. Our grandchildren are going to learn an eccentric, former basketball-player started WWIII?


I taught my son this, just yesterday.
 
2013-04-03 01:26:10 AM  

spamdog: For a moment I thought this was a nuclear facility. No such luck I suppose.

This is a pretty long string of provocations. Is Kim Jong-un just trying to prove that he's more hardcore than his dad?


I was wondering if it was one of the concentration camps in NK....well a man can dream.
 
2013-04-03 01:26:37 AM  

Notabunny: mizchief: davidphogan: Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.

That or, if China's real estate bubble is as bad as it's been rumored they want to get rid of a bunch of 20-30 year old males and blame someone else after they surrender.

That and there are about 25 million more young males than there are women in china, I bet those starving NK chicks are starting to look pretty good to them now.

I'll start

[img.photobucket.com image 800x600]


Nope.  Still don't trust Koreans. (It's not racism, it's culturism.)

Try again. :-)
 
2013-04-03 01:27:58 AM  

Amos Quito: Asa Phelps: Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?

Those civilians will probably try to walk to the nearest border.

I have a coworker from Beijing who says that nork refugees in china are already a problem of some political sensitivity. There are enough that you notice 'em. More coming over the border every day for years. And a lot of them are operating food carts and that sort of thing.

They probably adjust better to life in china than they would adjust to life in south korea. the freedom and standard of living in south korea would blow their minds.


If the minefields didn't blow them first.


4.bp.blogspot.com

Good at blow, and currently not busy.
 
2013-04-03 01:28:54 AM  
Shiat just really got real. I've been one of those supporting attacking N. korea for a long time. Now it seems like the North Koreans want a war too. This is farking stupid of them if they don't.
 
2013-04-03 01:30:06 AM  
Hot-headed little Un. At least pops knew how to keep the gravy train rolling.
 
2013-04-03 01:30:33 AM  
Great Leader Prepares to ride into battle...
i1.wp.com
 
2013-04-03 01:31:06 AM  

cantthinkofafarkingname: Um, It's not shutting down? They're only blocking Worst Korea workers?


The managers (and more importantly paymasters) are all South Korean. The facilities are run by South Korean companies; if they can't get their men there, no one gets paid.
 
2013-04-03 01:32:39 AM  
And then?
 
2013-04-03 01:33:09 AM  

Amos Quito: Any Pie Left: This is hardly a blip to South Korea. But it is an incredibly damaging thing for the North to do to itself; losing  the currency it was generating, and the business.   When their people eventually rise up against their government, it is going to be more bloody than anything seen in the last 100 years, I promise.


Fortunately for Kim Jong Un, (Un-fortunately?) the citizens of North Korea are unarmed, and weak from hunger.

Guess who will be doing most of the bleeding?


Yeah.  This is a NK country marketplace:

farm2.staticflickr.com

And this is ... I have no words...

positiveactivism.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-03 01:33:49 AM  

Kevin72: I was wondering if it was one of the concentration camps in NK....well a man can dream.


You're kinda right, if that helps. It's just the reward concentration camp instead of the punishment concentration camp.

/ Everything's relative!
// Even really depressing stuff!
 
2013-04-03 01:33:56 AM  
Kids' Taekwondo teacher is South Korean, and I used to talk to him about this.  Last time we discussed it was when they lobbed a couple of artillery shells.  He just shrugged his shoulders and said that they mainly ignore what goes on up North.  This time does feel a little different, but haven't had a chance to talk to him yet.  I'm guessing some more ugly looks and words, maybe a few bullets or shells, but that will be about it.  They maybe total jackasses, but they have to know they will get their asses kicked worse than Duke did Sunday.  Exactly what they are trying to accomplish or gain, I have no clue, but an all out war will be an absolute shock.
 
2013-04-03 01:34:38 AM  

A Terrible Human: Any Pie Left: North's people are starving, they don't even get the warm cups of snow like we Americans do.

I didn't get my bird yesterday either.


There aren't any left.
 
2013-04-03 01:35:13 AM  

Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.


...weirdest boner.

/the jack & panties part
//maaaaaaybe
 
2013-04-03 01:36:35 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Benevolent Misanthrope: ontariolightning: BolloxReader: Weren't there people saying that as long as this complex was going, there wasn't anything to worry about?
I think the game just got interesting.

meh. They've closed it down multiple times before.

Yeah, this.  The North Koreans are assholes, but they're not suicidal.  They'll just continue to bluster and threaten, like a bully in an empty schoolyard.  But also like a bully, they won't throw a punch against anyone who could ever possibly fight back.

I do wonder, though - if they did attack South Korea, what would happen?  Judging by our wars since WII, the U.S. isn't exactly known for winning.  My guess is we'd declare war and then try not to hurt anyone.  Again.

SK would take a whole bunch of hurt, then rally and clean the NK clock.


Just like the last time?
 
2013-04-03 01:38:37 AM  

duenor: Yep.Brontes: BolloxReader: Weren't there people saying that as long as this complex was going, there wasn't anything to worry about?
I think the game just got interesting.

Haha, yeah the NK Specialist Brit on NPR was saying he wasn't at all worried as long as Kaesong, and there was no way it was going to close.  Oops.

Yep. Just heard that today too. The line was something like, "Well they could do things like hold SK's hostage... but as long as they aren't doing that I think we can sleep pretty soundly at night."

well... about that...


Thankfully they aren't. They're simply blocking South Koreans from coming in. At least according to TFA, they are still allowing the South Koreans who were already there to leave. Maybe things have changed, but so far everything they've done has simply been words and symbolism.
 
2013-04-03 01:38:57 AM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-03 01:39:29 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Judging by our wars since WII, the U.S. isn't exactly known for winning.


Operation Desert Storm? When you can make your enemy surrender to the media, I think you probably win.
 
2013-04-03 01:40:39 AM  
Barking Unicorn:

Damn...
 
2013-04-03 01:41:05 AM  

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.


Glate Clips...
 
2013-04-03 01:42:33 AM  

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Barking Unicorn:

Damn...


Yeah.
 
2013-04-03 01:43:13 AM  

Any Pie Left: China could stop this if they wanted to badly enough, this has been the case since the original war. But Derp Korea would be very expensive for the Chinese to absorb, in money and manpower, for little return.  The back-channel negotiations are probably going strong already,  meanwhile, North's people are starving, they don't even get the warm cups of snow like we Americans do..


What warm cups of snow might look like:

www.yellowsnow.co
 
2013-04-03 01:45:48 AM  

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Barking Unicorn:

Damn...


What the hell did you think "The North Koreans are starving." meant in the 1000s of times you've seen it?
 
2013-04-03 01:49:34 AM  
OMG!!! It must be getting real. After reading this tread I've got a hard on. Write on Farkers, write on.
 
2013-04-03 01:49:40 AM  

doglover: yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Barking Unicorn:

Damn...

What the hell did you think "The North Koreans are starving." meant in the 1000s of times you've seen it?


"Humanity" is a pejorative.
 
2013-04-03 01:53:52 AM  
Last I checked, the Doomsday Clock was at 11:55.  Three more minutes and we have an awesome Iron Maiden tune.

Come on Fatty, three more minutes and its

"Kill for gain or shoot to maim
But we don't need a reason"
 
2013-04-03 01:54:37 AM  
www.tinygif.com
 
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