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(BBC)   North Korea has shut down the Kaesong complex   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 287
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2013-04-03 12:23:56 AM

What in The: Un, don't make us send Bill Clinton over there. Again. You know what happened last time.


He came home with two chicks?
 
2013-04-03 12:24:30 AM

BolloxReader: Weren't there people saying that as long as this complex was going, there wasn't anything to worry about?
I think the game just got interesting.


Yeah, this is getting interesting.
 
2013-04-03 12:24:34 AM

duenor: ACunningPlan: meat0918: jpo2269: Sadly, it seems as if Un is hell bent on getting his arse kicked.  Hopefully he wakes up prior to crossing the line of no return... Unfortunately I am not very optimistic.

Maybe that's the point.

Maybe he doesn't want to be Dear Leader, but the real powers in the country need their figure head to continue to live like kings.

That's very possible.  Or maybe the military are fed up with the dynasty and are taking advantage of his youth by "advising" him to do stupid stuff.  They could be hoping someone will intervene, whoop Kimmy boy's ass & leave a nice power vacuum for them to fill; I bet they're envious of the lifestyles of their equivalents over in China?

I've been telling everyone this.... chubby kim is being led with a lot of bowing and scraping right into a big pile of poop.


Un has been abroad. He knows the score. I bet he wants out as much as anyone else. Starting a bad war might be the best way to get deposed and be able to flee the country.
 
2013-04-03 12:24:44 AM
Wow, it's reaching internet levels of serious. They will have to send their next message using Serious Cat.
 
2013-04-03 12:25:13 AM

valar_morghulis: YOU PAY NOW


HURRY UP AND BUY!!

i3.ytimg.com
 
2013-04-03 12:25:22 AM
China could stop this if they wanted to badly enough, this has been the case since the original war. But Derp Korea would be very expensive for the Chinese to absorb, in money and manpower, for little return.  The back-channel negotiations are probably going strong already,  meanwhile, North's people are starving, they don't even get the warm cups of snow like we Americans do.

The North's situation is not something that can last; history proves that. But when it eventually goes, it will go on the most epic scale anyone has seen since the third century. The collateral damage will be worldwide and massive.
 
2013-04-03 12:28:33 AM
Well, one thing that this shows is that the road to actual conflict is a surprisingly long one. If the situation escalates into a shooting war, it won't be much of a surprise.

That said, there should be a large amount of tension in the NK high command right now. At some point the NK military will either decide to take out the Kim or play along until the endgame. I wonder what they'll do?
 
2013-04-03 12:28:36 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Wow, it's reaching internet levels of serious. They will have to send their next message using Serious Cat.


So.....Serious Cat v Grumpy Cat? Jebus, Vegas would crash the power grid with that kind of headliner.
 
2013-04-03 12:29:08 AM

Any Pie Left: China could stop this if they wanted to badly enough, this has been the case since the original war. But Derp Korea would be very expensive for the Chinese to absorb, in money and manpower, for little return.  The back-channel negotiations are probably going strong already,  meanwhile, North's people are starving, they don't even get the warm cups of snow like we Americans do.

The North's situation is not something that can last; history proves that. But when it eventually goes, it will go on the most epic scale anyone has seen since the third century. The collateral damage will be worldwide and massive.


And birds, we get to eat all the birds we can catch...
 
2013-04-03 12:29:09 AM
Every time I hear on the news, the crisis has hit a crescendo ... Then even more from NK.

I think our estimates are incorrect. He's quite childish, selfish, very young, pissed off , powerful and determined to lash out...with nuclear weapons. A madman.

I think we are going to have to fight NK.

It's getting worse, not better.

And this is just the stuff we know about so we can sleep at night.
 
2013-04-03 12:29:18 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, this. The North Koreans are assholes, but they're not suicidal. They'll just continue to bluster and threaten, like a bully in an empty schoolyard. But also like a bully, they won't throw a punch against anyone who could ever possibly fight back.


I'm not so sure about that. I think they'll make the same mistake the Germans did (twice) and cross the line, assuming the enemy won't fight back. I predict in the coming days that NK will shell some remote island, or shoot at (but miss) a SK plane or vessel, and they'll expect to get away with it. But now that SK has told its military "do what you need to, and ignore the political ramifications" it could escalate quickly and catch NK off guard.
 
2013-04-03 12:29:43 AM

ontariolightning: BolloxReader: Weren't there people saying that as long as this complex was going, there wasn't anything to worry about?
I think the game just got interesting.

meh. They've closed it down multiple times before.


Not to be snarky, but when? I'd like to see the context for those closings.
 
2013-04-03 12:29:51 AM
I wish there was someone who could pull this fat fark Un aside and say "you know how the world is farked up right now?  There are a lot of farkheads in the world that make it that way.  Don't be one of them, you farking little shiat.  You're not a God.  God wouldn't be a fat little shiat who hangs out with Dennis Rodman for fark's sake.  Get your shiat together."
 
2013-04-03 12:30:15 AM

Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.


I read that as "Batman" and was very confused.
 
2013-04-03 12:32:25 AM

Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.


Seriously. Our grandchildren are going to learn an eccentric, former basketball-player started WWIII?
 
2013-04-03 12:33:29 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Satanic_Hamster: For the life of me, I don't understand why any South Korean would enter North Korean controlled territory.  You KNOW there's a chance of being killed or held hostage.

Officials have also confirmed that the USS John McCain, an Aegis-class destroyer capable of intercepting missiles, has been positioned off the Korean peninsula.

Man, pet peeve of mine.  There's no such thing as an Aegis-class destroyer.  Aegis is a system, not a ship class.

I got a bigger problem with naming a ship after John McCain

/that sucker is gonna get captured for sure

It's named after his dad, I think.

That would make more sense, seeing as how they don't typically name ships after live, sitting office holders

/not nearly as funny, though
//looking for a deal on a good used sarcasm detector?


It was named after both his father and grandfather, actually.  McCain is John McCain the III.   His father/grandfather actually had pretty impressive / decorated careers.
 
2013-04-03 12:33:30 AM
Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
img109.imageshack.us
That is not a good look.
 
2013-04-03 12:34:58 AM

doglover: Un has been abroad. He knows the score. I bet he wants out as much as anyone else. Starting a bad war might be the best way to get deposed and be able to flee the country.


Yeah.  He hasn't been "in power" for very long. But it's worth noting that he hasn't, since his father's death, visited China (AFAIK), as his father and granddaddy did from time to time.  He may not be permitted to, on the worry that he'd go all "I'm going to (Tokyo) Disneyland!" on them.
 
2013-04-03 12:35:08 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: HURRY UP AND BUY!!


Gahahaha. Loved that movie.
 
2013-04-03 12:35:43 AM

Satanic_Hamster: For the life of me, I don't understand why any South Korean would enter North Korean controlled territory.  You KNOW there's a chance of being killed or held hostage.

Officials have also confirmed that the USS John McCain, an Aegis-class destroyer capable of intercepting missiles, has been positioned off the Korean peninsula.

Man, pet peeve of mine.  There's no such thing as an Aegis-class destroyer.  Aegis is a system, not a ship class.


Isn't the Aegis carried on cruisers and not destroyers?
 
2013-04-03 12:35:46 AM

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.


It's like the gangnam version of the 90's bowl cut
 
2013-04-03 12:36:12 AM

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.


Asian hi-top fade.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-03 12:36:32 AM

Modguy: Not to be snarky, but when? I'd like to see the context for those closings.


they last closed it in 2009 for a few days in response to the US-SK military drills
 
2013-04-03 12:37:06 AM

Bisu: Kuta: Thanks, Rodman.

Seriously. Our grandchildren are going to learn an eccentric, former basketball-player started WWIII?


This is all a ploy by HBO to get more subscribers.
 
2013-04-03 12:37:28 AM

Any Pie Left: North's people are starving, they don't even get the warm cups of snow like we Americans do.


I didn't get my bird yesterday either.
 
2013-04-03 12:37:36 AM

CthulhuCalling: Isn't the Aegis carried on cruisers and not destroyers?


On both Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Ticonderoga class cruisers.   Should be noted that not all Arleigh Burke and Ticonderogas have Aegis.
 
2013-04-03 12:38:12 AM

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.

an approved North Korean hair style.

timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state- ap proved-hairstyles/
 
2013-04-03 12:38:40 AM

red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.


Since when have dictators ever had good hairstyles?
 
2013-04-03 12:38:41 AM
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2013-04-03 12:38:50 AM
I had a brother at Kaesong
Fighting off them Viet-cong
They're still there, he's all gone
 
2013-04-03 12:39:10 AM

Any Pie Left: The North's situation is not something that can last; history proves that. But when it eventually goes, it will go on the most epic scale anyone has seen since the third century. The collateral damage will be worldwide and massive.


ct.fra.bz
 
2013-04-03 12:39:16 AM

CthulhuCalling: Isn't the Aegis carried on cruisers and not destroyers?


From Wiki, Cruisers and Destroyers.   Link.
 
2013-04-03 12:39:30 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-03 12:39:53 AM

BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: You know what would be ironic?

If the John McCain docked in Vietnam.

I'd rather see him do the Harlem Shake.


They do that on the USS McFly
 
2013-04-03 12:40:37 AM
Woah woah woah...I've got a theory. Rodman has a lot of experience with cross-dressing and makeup and the like, right? Being a master of disguise, has anyone considered that maybe Rodman secretly apprehended/assassinated Un and took his place with an elaborate costume? Have any of you guys actually seen or talked to Rodman since he supposedly returned from his trip? Didn't think so.

/They're the same height, right?
 
2013-04-03 12:41:33 AM

tinyarena: [img209.imageshack.us image 290x190]


Nice-a rong-a tube, but-a where does-a the noodle go?
 
2013-04-03 12:41:35 AM

duenor: I've been telling everyone this.... chubby kim is being led with a lot of bowing and scraping right into a big pile of poop.


Honestly, with the way this sounds I have a sneaking suspicion Jong-un is a dead man walking at this point. I half-suspect he'll end up assassinated in a Chinese-backed coup at the hands of younger North Korean military officers.
 
2013-04-03 12:41:38 AM

that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.


If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.
 
2013-04-03 12:42:25 AM

Bith Set Me Up: red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look.

Since when have dictators ever had good hairstyles?


Stalin always looked pretty good in photos/sculptures/paintings, probably because anyone who made him look bad ended up in a gulag.
 
2013-04-03 12:43:04 AM

What in The: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Wow, it's reaching internet levels of serious. They will have to send their next message using Serious Cat.

So.....Serious Cat v Grumpy Cat? Jebus, Vegas would crash the power grid with that kind of headliner.


And once Colonel Meow steps in, hoo boy. All hell will break loose...
 
2013-04-03 12:43:19 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

It's time to Break Glass Only In Case of War
 
2013-04-03 12:43:33 AM

Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.


That or, if China's real estate bubble is as bad as it's been rumored they want to get rid of a bunch of 20-30 year old males and blame someone else after they surrender.
 
2013-04-03 12:43:38 AM
An attack from the DPRK would hurt, and be expensive to clean up.

But it would also essentially signal the end of the DPRK.

What good is a standing army of 1.5 million men without trucks to transport or supply them, let alone supplies to load onto those truck to feed them?

One carefully placed FAE would put an end to any morale that north korean foot soldiers have.

And then south korea and china will have to deal with an unbelievable influx of refugees.
 
2013-04-03 12:46:20 AM

davidphogan: Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.

That or, if China's real estate bubble is as bad as it's been rumored they want to get rid of a bunch of 20-30 year old males and blame someone else after they surrender.


That and there are about 25 million more young males than there are women in china, I bet those starving NK chicks are starting to look pretty good to them now.
 
2013-04-03 12:47:59 AM
You know what would have prevented all this?  Not building your capital within artillery range of a f'ing insane asylum.  What was S Korea thinking?
 
2013-04-03 12:48:21 AM
The real problem is, that this is about the last action that he can take that doesn't involve a use of force.  I mean he is threatening nuclear attack (that he probably can't carry out), he has shut off lines of communication, he has stated his forces are on alert (no real sign of increased activity), reactivated a shutdown reactors contrary to previous agreements, and now shutting down one of his only means of gaining hard currency for the luxury items his regime needs to keep leadership happy.  There is basicly nothing else he can do to throw a temper tantrum that won't put someone at risk of losing their life.  Artillery attacks, naval skirmishes, terrorist strikes are just about the only thing left he can use.  If this doesn't achieve his goal of solidifying his rule, the next thing we may see is something that results in damage, injuries, and death.
 
2013-04-03 12:49:12 AM
In recent weeks it has also threatened attacks on US military bases in Asia and South Korean border islands. On Tuesday it said it planned to restart its mothballed reactor at Yongbyon - the source of plutonium for its nuclear weapons programme.

No mention of large boiled squash or Washington in flames?
 
2013-04-03 12:49:55 AM

humanshrapnel: red5ish: Where does he get his hair cut? WTF?
[img109.imageshack.us image 626x800]
That is not a good look. an approved North Korean hair style.

[timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com image 753x491]

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state- ap proved-hairstyles/


The middle guy seriously looks like 임요환 when he first joined the Air Force.

/A far less attractive version, of course.
 
2013-04-03 12:49:55 AM

4seasons85!: I am still not convinced that this is anything more than Un throwing a crying fit. But if this continues then things may get hairy soon.


Eveyone hits puberty eventually so technically yeah.
 
2013-04-03 12:51:23 AM

mizchief: davidphogan: Notabunny: that bosnian sniper: Hey, we might actually have a ballgame, folks.

If dumb becomes dumber, I've got a pair of silk pantyhose and a fifth of Jack that says China will slap down Lil Kim in order to keep the US from entering into a shooting war. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if this is just NK's way of negotiating for humanitarian aid from China.

That or, if China's real estate bubble is as bad as it's been rumored they want to get rid of a bunch of 20-30 year old males and blame someone else after they surrender.

That and there are about 25 million more young males than there are women in china, I bet those starving NK chicks are starting to look pretty good to them now.


I'll start

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