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(LA Times)   Scott Bakula talks about captaining Enterprise in the wake of 9/11 and that damn theme song   (herocomplex.latimes.com) divider line 20
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2013-04-02 08:20:42 PM  
7 votes:
The song was terrible but the montage during it was pretty cool. They even did a mirror universe version.
2013-04-02 08:03:56 PM  
3 votes:
The theme song wasn't nearly as embarrassing as all seven seasons of Voyager.
2013-04-02 11:48:42 PM  
2 votes:
Regarding the theme, I feel the ball was dropped by DS9.  WAIT, HEAR ME OUT, Please!  The theme itself is grand, but  I always thought each series should have had dialog in the opening of each series.
DS9 "space, the final frontier.  A system in contention, our mission.... etc etc"
Voyager "Space, the final frontier.  Lost in the far reaches...etc"
And then Enterprise "Space the final frontier.  Our first steps into a larger world...etc"

Could have been cool.
2013-04-02 09:59:05 PM  
2 votes:
Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.
2013-04-03 12:07:50 PM  
1 votes:

Jim from Saint Paul: FirstNationalBastard: You Are All Sheep: I liked Voyager :(

Voyager was good, as long as it was a Doctor episode, or maybe a 36D of Nine episode.

Otherwise... no. Just no.

Yes, she was eye candy.

Don't let that distract you from the idea that she was a very unique character who got to experience things that no other ST character had. 7 of 9 was a great character.


The Voyager episodes I always end up re-watching always involve either The Doctor or Seven. Or, the occasional episode where it's about both of them.

/Chakotay gets Seven? fark you, producers. It should have been The Doctor and Seven hooking up at the end of the show, perhaps while the Doctor beats Andy Dick EMH Mark 2 to death with a crowbar.
2013-04-03 11:20:04 AM  
1 votes:
I liked Voyager :(
2013-04-03 02:33:57 AM  
1 votes:

Great Janitor: Watching Enterprise, I got the feeling that the writers just didn't know what to do with the cast outside of Trip, Archer and T'Pol.


Yeah.  The problem was that I don't think that those other characters really brought anything to the table.

Star Trek characters, especially Star Fleet officers, have pretty narrow range to work with.  I mean, everybody has to be morally impeccable, completely dedicated to their work, hard working, and very intelligent.  You don't have jackass regular characters, or morons, or anything like that.  You can have a small foundation of a few good old boring humans on the show, but the rest of the characters have to bring some new angle.

I mean, think about TNG.  Most of the characters could allow for different themes.  Data allowed for the "what does it mean to be human" stuff.  Worf allowed for Klingon antics and fish out of water themes.  Troi could do feelings and crap.  Geordi didn't add much, but he wasn't featured in that many episodes.  So you had a foundation of Picard and Riker, and the rest of the crew brought some new angle.

DS9 took this further.  You had a foundation of Sisko.  Kira allowed for situations with questionable ethics and where blindly following the Federation wasn't always the best choice.  Odo could do the "what does it mean to be human" and fish out of water themes.  Quark was actually amoral (a real oddity in Star Trek) and thought about crazy things like money.  Worf brought Klingon antics again.  Dax brought the whole past lives thing.  O'Brien was a blue collar guy surrounded by elitists.  Only Bashir didn't bring much himself, but he was often paired with Garak, so it worked out.

But now think about Enterprise.  What did Reed/Mayweather/Hoshi bring to the table that wasn't already there?  What could Reed give you that Archer/Trip couldn't?  They just didn't really open up new storylines.  You can say that the writers should have done more with those characters (and I agree), but I'm just not sure that there was much to work with from day 1.  Really, they needed to redo those characters from the ground up.
2013-04-03 01:48:13 AM  
1 votes:

Mugato: The song was terrible but the montage during it was pretty cool. They even did a mirror universe version.


The Mirror Universe stuff on "Enterprise" was great, IMHO. I'd even watch a series based on those episodes...
2013-04-03 01:39:06 AM  
1 votes:

JosephFinn: Phil Moskowitz: Mugato: They even did a mirror universe version.

The perfunctory mirror universe version was only 100x better then the one they picked for the series.

After finally seeing the Mirror Universe episodes a couple of month ago, I see why people complained that the series actually had turned a corner before being cancelled.  That was really, really strong work by everyone involved.


If they had to do a prequel, season 4 was what the show should have been from the beginning. When Berman and Braga had basically washed their hands of the show and let Manny Coto and the Reeves-Stevenses take over and run the asylum like the fanboys they all were, that made Enterprise what it should have been.

Season 4 answered questions people had, tied stuff into the rest of the series, and felt like what was happening 100 years before TOS, and were actually building to the birth of the Federation and the Romulan War instead of whatever Berman and Braga were thinking of when they did the whole stupid temporal cold war thing and basically said "fark what happened before and what the people might want to see."

/although, Berman and Braga did "care" enough to come back and take a big dump on everything with The Pegasus part 1.5 as the series finale.
2013-04-03 01:29:31 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: And your rant reminds me of some pretty funny Star Trek warning posters I saw once. Hell if I can find them now, though.


Here ya go:


i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
2013-04-03 12:38:11 AM  
1 votes:

Mentat: fusillade762: Giggity!

That picture is some pretty clever trolling by the marketing department.  They knew every Trek geek would freeze that scene, so they stuck a url on the wall above and to the right of her.


I tried going to www.lowclearance.com but there's nothing there :(
2013-04-02 11:58:28 PM  
1 votes:

FightDirector: fusillade762: People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?

Given that the presence of the dog enabled the writers to come up with "A Night in Sickbay", the hate may be justifiable.

Does anyone know if "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" which Scotty tried to transport in the JJ Abrams reboot was a deliberate reference to Porthos?  I thought it was, and was the only person in the theatre who laughed at the line during the screening...


From Wikipedia:

In the 2009 Star Trek film, it is implied that "Admiral Archer's" prized Beagle was involved in a freak accident when Montgomery Scott used him as a test subject for a transporter experiment. Porthos, however, would have been over 70 years old when Scott was born, therefore it is not at all certain whether or not the beagle in question was Porthos, although it is possible that it has been made possible for dogs to live longer by that time; it's also possible that Archer only kept beagles for pets.
2013-04-02 11:55:10 PM  
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place?


They actually did that in Generations, iirc. Though not before Kirk got sucked out of the ship.

And your rant reminds me of some pretty funny Star Trek warning posters I saw once. Hell if I can find them now, though. During my search I did find this, though:

www.containsmoderateperil.com

Giggity!
2013-04-02 11:54:16 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?


Given that the presence of the dog enabled the writers to come up with "A Night in Sickbay", the hate may be justifiable.


Does anyone know if "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" which Scotty tried to transport in the JJ Abrams reboot was a deliberate reference to Porthos?  I thought it was, and was the only person in the theatre who laughed at the line during the screening...
2013-04-02 11:43:45 PM  
1 votes:
The worst, worst, WORST Star Trek series...I normally like ST and I couldn't stand to watch it when my husband rented the dvds.  Even he couldn't stand the show after the episode where the alien said something to the effect of "We don't have water, but this is the equivalent"...really?  An alien species that can breathe our own air doesn't have water?  Of course, it was just stupid with the guy getting pregnant by the alien.  Can't they just pretend it never existed?  That's what I've been doing for years now.
2013-04-02 11:25:49 PM  
1 votes:

bluorangefyre: I liked the Rod Stewart version of the theme song.


Yeah... didn't make that clear: First season version I liked

/when they made the change, even the theme blew
2013-04-02 11:24:56 PM  
1 votes:
I find the lack of T'Pol pics disturbing.

www.allmystery.de

www.treksinscifi.com

ent.trekcore.com
2013-04-02 10:56:56 PM  
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.


And why do they put explosives inside every console?
2013-04-02 10:41:04 PM  
1 votes:

The English Major: The theme song wasn't nearly as embarrassing as all seven seasons of Voyager.


That theme song is a crime against humanity, and Living Witness is one of the best episodes of Star Trek.  It's up there with Inner Light and In the Pale Moonlight.
2013-04-02 08:01:20 PM  
1 votes:
I liked the theme song damnit.
 
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