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2013-04-02 07:18:38 PM
That song from "Patch Adams"?
 
2013-04-02 08:01:20 PM
I liked the theme song damnit.
 
2013-04-02 08:03:56 PM
The theme song wasn't nearly as embarrassing as all seven seasons of Voyager.
 
2013-04-02 08:12:22 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-02 08:20:42 PM
The song was terrible but the montage during it was pretty cool. They even did a mirror universe version.
 
2013-04-02 08:21:28 PM
I didn't mind the theme song at all. Hell, I didn't mind that it was a century before Kirk or that Vulcans were utter douchenozzles. What I did mind was the lousy writing of the first season and first half or so of the second season. Every other episode was Archer getting kidnapped or stuck somewhere or something along the lines of him being away from the ship. The Xindi arc was an improvement, but the 4th season was when things really kicked into gear and started looking like a precursor to the Original Series era. Of course most of the people who would have liked that had been driven away by the earlier episodes which put the ratings in the crapper. And don't get me started on that final episode.

Of course, I prefer to think of the novel "The Good That Men Do" (with Trip's death being faked and him starting Section 31 in earnest) as being the true ending of the series. If you haven't read it then I'd recommend that you do, it also involves DS9 characters too.
 
2013-04-02 08:25:59 PM
The theme song did make it hard to stick around through the first commercial break. My hand instinctively searches for a remote control at the sound of the first few notes of that thing and the Friends song too.
 
2013-04-02 08:46:30 PM
The theme song sucked huge donkey nutz.

The first season sucked, they started to get it together in the second season, and it was firing on all cylinders when they cancelled it.

Thanks Obama.
 
2013-04-02 08:48:36 PM
In a Mirror, Darkly had better theme music.
 
2013-04-02 08:53:42 PM
Journeyman > Quantum Leap
 
2013-04-02 09:03:27 PM

Mentat: I liked the theme song damnit.


I loved the theme song. It was awesome, no matter what some people say.
 
2013-04-02 09:57:12 PM
It doesn't take quantum leap to say he did it all for the money.
 
2013-04-02 09:59:05 PM
Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.
 
2013-04-02 10:38:25 PM
I liked the theme song

/the show blew cloven-hooved ruminant
 
2013-04-02 10:41:03 PM

ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.


C. Writers
 
2013-04-02 10:41:04 PM

The English Major: The theme song wasn't nearly as embarrassing as all seven seasons of Voyager.


That theme song is a crime against humanity, and Living Witness is one of the best episodes of Star Trek.  It's up there with Inner Light and In the Pale Moonlight.
 
2013-04-02 10:56:56 PM

ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.


And why do they put explosives inside every console?
 
2013-04-02 11:00:12 PM

ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.


And why do all the aliens speak English, amirite?
 
2013-04-02 11:08:55 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I liked the theme song

/the show blew cloven-hooved ruminant


I liked the Rod Stewart version of the theme song.

/only seen Carbon Creek and the last episode that was a TNG episode in disguise
 
2013-04-02 11:09:07 PM

Mentat: ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.

And why do they put explosives inside every console?


Incentive. At some part of Star Trek's history, North Korea became the primary world power and to prevent people from farking up at their jobs, they loaded the consoles with explosives.
 
2013-04-02 11:10:43 PM

Mentat: I liked the theme song damnit.


Me too.
 
2013-04-02 11:14:21 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Journeyman > Quantum Leap


Hahahahahahahahaa...

No.
 
2013-04-02 11:16:29 PM
I'd much rather hear about Jolene Blalocks ass.
 
2013-04-02 11:24:56 PM
I find the lack of T'Pol pics disturbing.

www.allmystery.de

www.treksinscifi.com

ent.trekcore.com
 
2013-04-02 11:25:49 PM

bluorangefyre: I liked the Rod Stewart version of the theme song.


Yeah... didn't make that clear: First season version I liked

/when they made the change, even the theme blew
 
2013-04-02 11:28:22 PM

Mugato: They even did a mirror universe version.


The perfunctory mirror universe version was only 100x better then the one they picked for the series.
 
2013-04-02 11:31:08 PM
Never watched this series.  Worth checking out these days, or was it just something to keep sci fi fans going during dry times?
 
2013-04-02 11:33:29 PM
Theme song was okay. Show was better than Voyager; as good as the median TNG stuff. It seems everytime I start getting hooked on a series--it dies. I watched Firefly from the start and saw how awesome it was and saw the network set it up to fail by putting it on Friday night. Then I started watching Stargate Universe and just as it was beginning to pick up speed--axed.
 
2013-04-02 11:38:36 PM

Phil Moskowitz: Mugato: They even did a mirror universe version.

The perfunctory mirror universe version was only 100x better then the one they picked for the series.


After finally seeing the Mirror Universe episodes a couple of month ago, I see why people complained that the series actually had turned a corner before being cancelled.  That was really, really strong work by everyone involved.
 
2013-04-02 11:43:45 PM
The worst, worst, WORST Star Trek series...I normally like ST and I couldn't stand to watch it when my husband rented the dvds.  Even he couldn't stand the show after the episode where the alien said something to the effect of "We don't have water, but this is the equivalent"...really?  An alien species that can breathe our own air doesn't have water?  Of course, it was just stupid with the guy getting pregnant by the alien.  Can't they just pretend it never existed?  That's what I've been doing for years now.
 
2013-04-02 11:47:20 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Journeyman > Quantum Leap


please save some Quaaludes for the rest of us.
 
2013-04-02 11:47:46 PM
People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?
 
2013-04-02 11:48:42 PM
Regarding the theme, I feel the ball was dropped by DS9.  WAIT, HEAR ME OUT, Please!  The theme itself is grand, but  I always thought each series should have had dialog in the opening of each series.
DS9 "space, the final frontier.  A system in contention, our mission.... etc etc"
Voyager "Space, the final frontier.  Lost in the far reaches...etc"
And then Enterprise "Space the final frontier.  Our first steps into a larger world...etc"

Could have been cool.
 
2013-04-02 11:54:16 PM

fusillade762: People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?


Given that the presence of the dog enabled the writers to come up with "A Night in Sickbay", the hate may be justifiable.


Does anyone know if "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" which Scotty tried to transport in the JJ Abrams reboot was a deliberate reference to Porthos?  I thought it was, and was the only person in the theatre who laughed at the line during the screening...
 
2013-04-02 11:55:10 PM

ReapTheChaos: If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place?


They actually did that in Generations, iirc. Though not before Kirk got sucked out of the ship.

And your rant reminds me of some pretty funny Star Trek warning posters I saw once. Hell if I can find them now, though. During my search I did find this, though:

www.containsmoderateperil.com

Giggity!
 
2013-04-02 11:56:29 PM
In fairness, it lasted one season longer than TOS.
 
2013-04-02 11:58:28 PM

FightDirector: fusillade762: People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?

Given that the presence of the dog enabled the writers to come up with "A Night in Sickbay", the hate may be justifiable.

Does anyone know if "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" which Scotty tried to transport in the JJ Abrams reboot was a deliberate reference to Porthos?  I thought it was, and was the only person in the theatre who laughed at the line during the screening...


From Wikipedia:

In the 2009 Star Trek film, it is implied that "Admiral Archer's" prized Beagle was involved in a freak accident when Montgomery Scott used him as a test subject for a transporter experiment. Porthos, however, would have been over 70 years old when Scott was born, therefore it is not at all certain whether or not the beagle in question was Porthos, although it is possible that it has been made possible for dogs to live longer by that time; it's also possible that Archer only kept beagles for pets.
 
2013-04-03 12:00:30 AM

hideous: Regarding the theme, I feel the ball was dropped by DS9.  WAIT


Funny: DS9 and Enterprise are the two Trek shows where they actually changed the theme songs slightly during the show's run. They both got a tad faster and DS9 added some percussion, iirc.
 
2013-04-03 12:08:58 AM
When I watch the Star Treks on Netflix, I skip the theme song, save for Enterprise, I watch the opening theme. It pisses off my wife who hates that theme.  Theme song aside, I liked the overall look of the intro and it's spirit of flight and exploration.  It was also awesome that in 'In a Mirror Darkly...' 1 and 2 the theme became an ode to war.

As far as Enterprise goes, it really had great potential in the getting back to Star Trek basics that TOS and TNG were.  The failings is that it took until season 4 to actually figure out how to really get the show to work.  I liked season 3 and it's Xindi arc, but I'm actually in the minority on that.  Most felt that the arc was too friggin' long and 26 episodes may have been too ambitious.  There were a couple of fillers that season that I would have liked to have done without (Carpenter Street, E2, and North Star come to mind, though only North Star wasn't referenced at some other point in the series).  Reading about what was planned for Season 5 really makes me sad that it never came to be.  Jeffery Combs really did deserve to be a cast member on a Trek series.

The other problem with Enterprise was that when it came into being.  After seven years of TNG, DS9 and VOY, a new century was needed for Trek since that's the only way you can have a truly new setting for a Trek series, however, the powers that be with the series were clearly exhausted as was the franchise.  The biggest sign of that was 10 years ago when Star Trek: Nemesis was beaten opening weekend by a Jennifer Lopez chick flick.  Nemesis being a bad movie should not have been a factor as other Trek movies, good or bad, always had rather strong opening weekend (save for Star Trek 5: Last time we'll ever see the words 'Trek' and 'Directed by William Shatner' in the same movie). From what I recently read, Nemesis wasn't supposed to be the TNG crew's final voyage, but the lead up to their finally, but the movie bombing and the later cancellation of Enterprise made it the final TNG movie, which is a shame really, the TNG crew really do deserve a final movie. Not helping Enterprise also was that before season 3 the torpedoes were upgraded to photon and the primitive new transporter device had no obvious limitations that the newer,more advanced TNG transporters.  A limitation that only one person at a time would have been fine.  The ship's look being that of the Akira class from the late 24th century really wasn't excusable.  Laughable things like in the episode 'Minefield' when Enterprise hits that cloaked mine, the ship takes major damage (good), no one dies (wtf???  That big of a chunk of the ship is gone, and no one died???), and in the next episode they find a near by automated repair station that repairs the ship.  And the Borg episode, creatively it does fit in the timeline (24th century dones send a message to Borg space in the 22nd century warning them of Earth and the Federation, they send a ship out, Enterprise D finds that ship, said Borg ship pursues the Enterprise and the Enterprise suddenly vanishes.  Not knowing it was Q's help, the Borg continue on to Federation space curious about the Federation threat...), the episode was a bit clumsy in it's attempt to never mention the name 'Borg'.

However, bad series or not, that is no excuse for the messed up final episode that was 'These are the Voyages...'.  I give them credit for the attempt at trying to link Enterprise up with TNG, however, it was awful, Trip's death seemed pointless and if I were a cast member of Enterprise I'd be a bit ticked that my final episode was over shadowed by two TNG cast members.

In many ways, the best thing for Star Trek was taking a break of a few years and letting a new person come in and take over rebooting the series.  I do hope that this new movie is a big enough of a hit that a tv show can be done.  I know that if so, there would be the issue of what to do with these characters who are all played by movie stars.  I personally think the two best options are 25th century prime universe or 24th century Abrams universe.
 
2013-04-03 12:09:35 AM
fusillade762:
From Wikipedia:

In the 2009 Star Trek film, it is implied that "Admiral Archer's" prized Beagle was involved in a freak accident when Montgomery Scott used him as a test subject for a transporter experiment. Porthos, however, would have been over 70 years old when Scott was born, therefore it is not at all certain whether or not the beagle in question was Porthos, although it is possible that it has been made possible for dogs to live longer by that time; it's also possible that Archer only kept beagles for pets.


Well, crap.  Never occurred to me that the wiki might have had that on there.
 
2013-04-03 12:12:20 AM

ReapTheChaos: Star Trek rant on.

After watching nothing but Star Trek episodes on Hulu all of last month I have come to the conclusion that Starfleet and the Federation are a bunch of idiots. A few random things I've never understood:

How come every time they do battle they get their asses handed to them? Sure they eventually get out alive, but only by the skin of their teeth. How the hell did they get to be the superpower of the galaxy when every battle they get into cripples them?

What the hell is with their computer security? How many times has someone transported off the ship, stolen a shuttlecraft or sent a secret message through subspace by simply bypassing the security codes? If they're that easy to bypass then they aren't very secure codes are they?

Why is it that in every episode involving the holodeck it screws up in one way or another, putting the ship and crew in peril? Why the hell do they put these malfunctioning deathtraps on starships?

How is it they can communicate millions of light-years across space but they can't contact an away team when they're in a cave?

How come when there's a medical emergency on board they transport the person directly to sickbay, yet when there's a security breach they travel half way across the ship on foot?

Why does every major system on the ship break down so damn easily? They take one little phaser blast and even though the shields are still up something will break down. Not only that but it's almost always the system they need the most at that moment. Isn't the point of shields to absorb the damage so the ship doesn't?

Why does everything have to be done manually? Shouldn't emergency procedures come automatically? If the hull of the ship is blasted away shouldn't the ship automatically put up a temporary force field in its place? If the shields go down in battle shouldn't emergency power automatically be rerouted to them?

Ok I'm done for now.


You forgot on how there is no body armor. You think they had some sort of armor to protect people from phaser fire when needed.

/There needs to be another Star Trek tv show, but I don't think that will happen thanks to the new Star Trek movies.
 
2013-04-03 12:12:56 AM

Great Janitor: The ship's look being that of the Akira class from the late 24th century really wasn't excusable.


What might have been:

i581.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-03 12:16:57 AM
I have to admit I had my reservations about Enterprise.
I agree that the first two seasons were lacking, the whole Xindi arc was a nice change. And season 4 really started to pull things together. However I blame Braga for most of the dysfunction in Enterprise. He thinks anything with time travel is epically awesome and it's just not.

//Regeneration was pretty cool too, where they battled Borg thy crashed on Earth after First Contact.
 
2013-04-03 12:22:23 AM

fusillade762: Giggity!


That picture is some pretty clever trolling by the marketing department.  They knew every Trek geek would freeze that scene, so they stuck a url on the wall above and to the right of her.
 
2013-04-03 12:31:08 AM

FightDirector: Well, crap.  Never occurred to me that the wiki might have had that on there.


Pop culture is the only thing wikipedia is good for.
 
2013-04-03 12:38:11 AM

Mentat: fusillade762: Giggity!

That picture is some pretty clever trolling by the marketing department.  They knew every Trek geek would freeze that scene, so they stuck a url on the wall above and to the right of her.


I tried going to www.lowclearance.com but there's nothing there :(
 
2013-04-03 12:52:42 AM
Anyone thinking season 4 was the producers getting their shiat together, take note that TPTB told Berman and Braga to shut up and sit down and got Manny Coto to run the show. Coto got people like Judith & Garfield Reeves Stevens in as writers. Season 4 was made by more or less new people in charge, instead of the old people pulling their old socks up... until the finale. The finale was 100% Berman and Braga's last hurrah for the fans. If you know what I mean. And I think you do.
 
2013-04-03 12:53:20 AM

fusillade762: Mentat: fusillade762: Giggity!

That picture is some pretty clever trolling by the marketing department.  They knew every Trek geek would freeze that scene, so they stuck a url on the wall above and to the right of her.

I tried going to www.lowclearance.com but there's nothing there :(


It's underneath Low Clearance.

Link
 
2013-04-03 12:53:37 AM

fusillade762: People either loved or hated the theme song and people loved or hated that I had a dog on board.

There were people who hated the dog?


There were people who loved the theme song?


Anyone see the opening set to "archers theme"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg
Damn near perfect.
 
2013-04-03 12:57:17 AM

GBmanNC: Anyone see the opening set to "archers theme"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg
Damn near perfect.


Holy crap! That was perfect. Gave me goosebumps.
 
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