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2013-04-02 07:09:48 PM  
I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?
 
2013-04-02 07:13:10 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?


Probably, but it's still a pain in the neck and even though it's cheaper these days, it's still an added expense.
 
2013-04-02 07:54:10 PM  
"We spend so much time fighting to keep filming in the city and to keep the city film-friendly, and when something like this happens, we can't take it lightly,'' Duffy said in an interview. "We're in a crisis mode, and every one of these little things just puts us more into a crisis."

Looks like failed screenwriters can become location scouts.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-02 08:05:51 PM  
I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.
 
2013-04-02 09:36:45 PM  
Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.
 
2013-04-02 09:37:20 PM  
I don't understand... how hard could it be to get rid of a bright green object in post?
 
2013-04-02 09:41:06 PM  
Maybe they should start realizing LA isn't the only city on the world.
 
2013-04-02 09:41:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Duffy said in an interview. "We're in a crisis mode, and every one of these little things just puts us more into a crisis."


Oh, FARK!  A crisis in Hollywood!
 
2013-04-02 09:41:48 PM  
They'll get over it.

www.globalrhetoric.com

Or not.
 
2013-04-02 09:42:44 PM  
LOL crisis.
 
2013-04-02 09:44:06 PM  
Aren't all "LA" scenes shot in Vancouver at this point anyway?
 
2013-04-02 09:45:08 PM  

CruJones: Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.


This
 
2013-04-02 09:46:35 PM  
You should not bike in LA the air quality is not safe for exercise.
If you go somewhere you should drive.
 
2013-04-02 09:48:40 PM  
CRISIS:LA... MORE INTO THE CRISIS!
 
2013-04-02 09:48:45 PM  
Last I knew, LA's purpose in life was not to be an exclusive shooting location for Hollywood. Maybe they need to GTFO & GBTW somewhere that is else.

/apparently not only is Hollywood out of ideas, they are out of locations as well
 
2013-04-02 09:49:15 PM  
Thank god I live in a place (Nebraska) with enough parks and undeveloped land that the bike paths can cut through safe, quiet areas with almost nothing around instead of inches away from multi-ton hunks of metal going 2-3 times faster than you.
 
2013-04-02 09:49:23 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: CruJones: Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.

This


Hmm, if you want Dallas in the 1970's you could dress up Dallas or you could go out to Longview.
 
2013-04-02 09:50:05 PM  

CipollinaFan: You should not bike in LA the air quality is not safe for exercise.
If you go somewhere you should drive.


So it's like NYC then?  No one drives, there is too much traffic.

/not obscure
 
2013-04-02 09:50:43 PM  

ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.


I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.
 
2013-04-02 09:52:15 PM  
They don't like em? I say double em.
 
2013-04-02 09:54:21 PM  

dookdookdook: Thank god I live in a place (Nebraska) with enough parks and undeveloped land that the bike paths can cut through safe, quiet areas with almost nothing around instead of inches away from multi-ton hunks of metal going 2-3 times faster than you

while their drivers are talking on their cellphones or, far worse, being Lindsey Lohan. 

MTWFY

/Made That Worse For You.
 
2013-04-02 09:55:25 PM  

TaterTot_HotDish: this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them


No, it's an example of moviemakers who spend millions of dollars in the area by using it for location filming pointing out that the green paint obstructs that purpose.  Hyperbole much?
 
2013-04-02 09:56:29 PM  
So the city can't develop because movie makers need a generic looking city to film in?

farkers.
 
2013-04-02 09:59:25 PM  

CruJones: Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.


I take it you're volunteering to pay, on every project, for the airfare for the cast, the gas and 18-wheelers for the equipment, the extra money for the crew for the extra days in travel and setup, the lodging and food (nobody can go home at night), etc., etc.?
 
2013-04-02 09:59:27 PM  
Funny how some Hollywood nativists get this way, protecting LA's film industry as if it wasn't 50% porn. Lobby your damned government for incentives, not injunctions.
 
xcv
2013-04-02 09:59:38 PM  

rmatthewware: Maybe they should start realizing LA isn't the only city on the world.


Isn't that the problem? Aren't Canada and Central/Eastern Europe are already common stand-ins for most of America cause the Hollywood progressives don't mind undermining American labor when it would lower their profit margin?
 
2013-04-02 10:00:02 PM  
As if they couldn't easily fix this. Normal every day shots on tv shows still have green screen.

http://youtu.be/clnozSXyF4k
 
2013-04-02 10:00:07 PM  

rmatthewware: Maybe they should start realizing LA isn't the only city on the world.


They do know that.  LA has been losing a lot of business over the last decade.  It's not exactly a disaster, but the numbers are way, way down from where they used to be.  Doesn't mean a lot to all the rich executives and stars, but the crew and bit players in LA lose out on work.

Of course, when they come up to Canada, that's good for me.
 
2013-04-02 10:01:44 PM  
Green pavement? So like I could set up a picnic spot and eat lunch? Or maybe have my dog crap on since its green and not bother picking it up because nature and compost into the green pavement grass.

Paint parts of roadway green so bicycle people stay on it and stop swerving all over the lane of traffic and basically impeding traffic flow which is a ticket offense.
Get caught three times and impound the bicycle.
Use another bicycle and take a trip to jail for being a bicycling asshole.
 
2013-04-02 10:04:23 PM  

Superjew: TaterTot_HotDish: this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them

No, it's an example of moviemakers who spend millions of dollars in the area by using it for location filming pointing out that the green paint obstructs that purpose.  Hyperbole much?


No, I don't think my statement was hyperbolic.  In my observation, people who have millions of dollars generally do think the world revolves around them.

Sorry I called them assholes, though - they're really more like insensitive jerks.
 
2013-04-02 10:04:26 PM  
We're not even cheap labour up here anymore. We're skilled and we have unmatched movie infrastructure, thanks in part to gov incentives.
 
2013-04-02 10:04:44 PM  
FTA:"...  and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities. "

I don't think anyone believed that those palm trees were native to Cleveland, but you can keep telling yourselves you were doing a good job.
 
2013-04-02 10:04:54 PM  

TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.


More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.
 
2013-04-02 10:06:23 PM  
Hollywood...powerless against green street paint.
 
2013-04-02 10:06:28 PM  

Tax Boy: Aren't all "LA" scenes shot in Vancouver at this point anyway?


Well, yes, anything that's supposed to be LA is shot in Vancuver.  But anything that's supposed to be NYC or Philly or DC or Chicago or anywhere else is shot in LA.

100 Watt Walrus: I take it you're volunteering to pay, on every project, for the airfare for the cast, the gas and 18-wheelers for the equipment, the extra money for the crew for the extra days in travel and setup, the lodging and food (nobody can go home at night), etc., etc.?


We do.  Or at least my city does.  In the form of tax breaks and having a film office that coordinates with city government to make getting permits easy.  They've filmed a bunch of movies in Philly recently, most of them set in NYC, because it's cheaper and easier to shoot Philly-for-Manhattan.

Ironically, everything set in Philly still shoots in LA.
 
2013-04-02 10:07:02 PM  
Couldn't the production company paint it concrete-asphalt grey for a few days, then back to green when they're done shooting?  Molehill meet mountain.
 
2013-04-02 10:07:03 PM  
If only they had some method of removing blocks of green from their movies.  Farking tards.
 
2013-04-02 10:08:25 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: As if they couldn't easily fix this. Normal every day shots on tv shows still have green screen.

http://youtu.be/clnozSXyF4k


Doubleplus ^this^. Only amateurs actually film on real streets.

Here's an early clip from Star Wars Episode VII. The effects haven't yet been completed:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-02 10:09:59 PM  
Dear location scouts:

bmadore.squarespace.com
 
2013-04-02 10:10:04 PM  

titwrench: When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads


...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
 
2013-04-02 10:10:52 PM  
There's a certain color that comes to mind when thinking about this problem.  And it's not green.  It's more the color of the people having this problem.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:02 PM  
These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:24 PM  

titwrench: TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.

More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.


I read TFA and didn't see anything about the city cyclists insisting on it. It read to me that the city painted the street to improve cyclist safety, the city saw a marked decrease in accidents and thus decided it was a good idea to re-paint it.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:24 PM  

Surool: FTA:"...  and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities. "

I don't think anyone believed that those palm trees were native to Cleveland, but you can keep telling yourselves you were doing a good job.


This wasn't really Wisconsin?!!!

d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net
 
2013-04-02 10:11:50 PM  
img844.imageshack.us

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:52 PM  
this is 100% bullshiat. Calling it out now.

Why? When they want something to look period, they throw town tarp that looks convincingly like whatever happens to be period and you'd never know. It's incredibly easy to hide the "look" of a flat green strip.

This is another "Hollywood doesn't like change if it doesn't benefit them because they're the equivalent of the old people who protest gay marriage".
 
2013-04-02 10:13:45 PM  
I thought everyone filmed in Canada and the Czech Republic these days (or have they gotten greedy and Springfielded their film industry?
 
2013-04-02 10:14:41 PM  

funmonger: Funny how some Hollywood nativists get this way, protecting LA's film industry as if it wasn't 50% porn. Lobby your damned government for incentives, not injunctions.


Actually, most of the porn is filmed in the San Fernando Valley, miles north of downtown.  It's pretty low budget, and they usually film indoors anyway.  LA would be screwed without Hollywood and the peripheral industries.  It's never good to bite the hand that feeds you millions of dollars.
 
2013-04-02 10:14:44 PM  
Sounds like a certain industry forgot to donate to certain political campaigns.
 
2013-04-02 10:14:56 PM  

CruJones: Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.


You're way ahead of me, my friend.
 
2013-04-02 10:17:02 PM  
Perhaps maybe Austin could benefit from having a green bike lane. It might keep some of the Lance-Armstrong wannabes out of the road (not saying ALL bicyclers are Lance Armstrong douchebags, but some are).
 
2013-04-02 10:17:30 PM  
I always found it stupid how L.A. for every farking city on the planet, even when it doesn't look a damn thing like Southern California.  California is used as a stand-in for everything from Appalachia to Korea to the Deep South to New York City.

It's kinda sad and pathetic how over-used they make L.A. as a stand-in for every place on Earth.
 
2013-04-02 10:18:13 PM  

MrEricSir: Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.


Even a single protected east-west bike lane in my hometown would be a godsend.

/We just got pair of bike lanes through Center City a couple of years ago.
//Assholes park in them, and the cops to write tickets.
///And it's legal for anyone attending a "church service" to park in them
 
2013-04-02 10:18:51 PM  

xcv: rmatthewware: Maybe they should start realizing LA isn't the only city on the world.

Isn't that the problem? Aren't Canada and Central/Eastern Europe are already common stand-ins for most of America cause the Hollywood progressives don't mind undermining American labor when it would lower their profit margin?


Someone dosen't understand how profit margins work
 
2013-04-02 10:19:04 PM  

funmonger: We're not even cheap labour up here anymore. We're skilled and we have unmatched movie infrastructure, thanks in part to gov incentives.


You can't possibly have unmatched movie infrastructure - the Australian movie industry has. As well as Australian farmers being the most efficient in the world, Australian produce being the best quality in the world, Australian actors taking Hollywood by storm, Australian I.T. entrepeneurs invading Silicon Valley and showing the 'Yanks' how it's done, Australian manufacturing being the most innovative in the world, the Australian economy being the envy of the world, Australia being God's own country, Australia punches above its weight in this and Australia is better than anyone else at that, blah, blah , blah - every time I turn on the TV, the radio or read a newspaper. Oh, and at the same time I will hear things like Americans are overly patriotic and big-headed,

Little country syndrome.
 
2013-04-02 10:21:32 PM  

MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.


We just got one of those on Dearborn in downtown Chicago.  It's goddamn fantastic.  Sadly, does not have the fantastic bike parking seen there.
 
2013-04-02 10:21:41 PM  

Dougie AXP: titwrench: TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.

More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.

I read TFA and didn't see anything about the city cyclists insisting on it. It read to me that the city painted the street to improve cyclist safety, the city saw a marked decrease in accidents and thus decided it was a good idea to re-paint it.


My cycle rage is not rational and is very knee jerk. I am the Pope of cyclist hate. When I go on a cycle rant I should be treated like a religious nut job.
 
2013-04-02 10:22:13 PM  

ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.


This.  You quickly learn that there are two things you ride straight across without braking when the road is wet:  Metal, and paint stripes.

If you're lucky, you don't have to wait for your collarbone to knit.  But one hell of a way to drive the lesson home.
 
2013-04-02 10:22:23 PM  

Hollie Maea: These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.


The Oregonian had an article about this topic today.
 
2013-04-02 10:23:23 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.


I learned something today, as I thought highway department used asphalt because of it was a cheaper petroleum-based bituminous-aggregate mixture, and it's easier to resurface concrete roadways with 1.5 inches of petroleum-based binder and surface courses.
/Thanks for the history lesson!
 
2013-04-02 10:23:52 PM  
"Their concern: The bright color would be a distraction to viewers, doesn't belong in period movies and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities. "

Who do these bungholes think they're kidding? Everyone knows that film crews go to places up north like Vancouver. I don't think any studio has filmed a movie set LA IN LA for decades!
 
2013-04-02 10:24:30 PM  

kg2095: funmonger: We're not even cheap labour up here anymore. We're skilled and we have unmatched movie infrastructure, thanks in part to gov incentives.

You can't possibly have unmatched movie infrastructure - the Australian movie industry has. As well as Australian farmers being the most efficient in the world, Australian produce being the best quality in the world, Australian actors taking Hollywood by storm, Australian I.T. entrepeneurs invading Silicon Valley and showing the 'Yanks' how it's done, Australian manufacturing being the most innovative in the world, the Australian economy being the envy of the world, Australia being God's own country, Australia punches above its weight in this and Australia is better than anyone else at that, blah, blah , blah - every time I turn on the TV, the radio or read a newspaper. Oh, and at the same time I will hear things like Americans are overly patriotic and big-headed,

Little country syndrome.


That'll be New Zealand.  Well, orignally, until the Aussi's stole it  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzone
 
2013-04-02 10:25:20 PM  

Kahabut: So it's like NYC then? No one drives, there is too much traffic.


Notwithstanding the Yogi Berra quote, NYC is one of the most walkable cities anywhere.  People from far away who have never been there (I'm not from NYC, but I've been there) need to STFD and STFU.
 
2013-04-02 10:26:24 PM  

Osomatic: BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?

Probably, but it's still a pain in the neck and even though it's cheaper these days, it's still an added expense.


Oh boo hoo hoo. Of course their concerns should override progress and the safety of the public!
 
2013-04-02 10:27:13 PM  

farkingatwork: this is 100% bullshiat. Calling it out now.

Why? When they want something to look period, they throw town tarp that looks convincingly like whatever happens to be period and you'd never know. It's incredibly easy to hide the "look" of a flat green strip.

This is another "Hollywood doesn't like change if it doesn't benefit them because they're the equivalent of the old people who protest gay marriage".


Not true at all.  They do sometimes truck in dirt, if they're shooting something set in the 19th century, but anything that takes place after that takes place on asphalt.  And if they're shooting at night, DPs farking LOVE to have the streets hosed down.  Seriously, watch any movie filmed in the last 40 years and if they're a night scene in the city the streets are ALWAYS wet.
 
2013-04-02 10:28:17 PM  
Their concern: The bright color would be a distraction to viewers, doesn't belong in period movies and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities.

Why don't they just film those in black and white?

/or red?
 
2013-04-02 10:30:29 PM  
A lot of anti-Hollywood haters in this thread. I'm sure you guys don't watch movies or TV and only get your entertainment from local theater and when the circus comes to town.
 
2013-04-02 10:34:59 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingatwork: this is 100% bullshiat. Calling it out now.

Why? When they want something to look period, they throw town tarp that looks convincingly like whatever happens to be period and you'd never know. It's incredibly easy to hide the "look" of a flat green strip.

This is another "Hollywood doesn't like change if it doesn't benefit them because they're the equivalent of the old people who protest gay marriage".

Not true at all.  They do sometimes truck in dirt, if they're shooting something set in the 19th century, but anything that takes place after that takes place on asphalt.  And if they're shooting at night, DPs farking LOVE to have the streets hosed down.  Seriously, watch any movie filmed in the last 40 years and if they're a night scene in the city the streets are ALWAYS wet.


The wet pavement thing is due to lighting.
 
2013-04-02 10:36:53 PM  
Their concern: The bright color would be a distraction to viewers, doesn't belong in period movies and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities.

Hey guys... BIKE LANES don't usually belong in period movies...

Get over it.
 
2013-04-02 10:39:07 PM  

Dr.Zom: A lot of anti-Hollywood haters in this thread. I'm sure you guys don't watch movies or TV and only get your entertainment from local theater and when the circus comes to town.


I have cats.  They put on puppet shows for me.

/They're rehearsing Hamlet as I type this.
//I think Meowbert is miscast as the Danish prince.
 
2013-04-02 10:39:17 PM  

Osomatic: BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?

Probably, but it's still a pain in the neck and even though it's cheaper these days, it's still an added expense.


Also, the green is going to vary in color depending on the sunlight, reflections and shadows from one spot to another, and you start running into areas where it might not select, or something else in the frame gets screened out.

I still say fark these guys, but it's not super easy to remove it.
 
2013-04-02 10:40:17 PM  
Just lay out a roll of some plasticky-type of material that has the color and texture of asphalt on camera. It should be reusable. Shoot your shot and then go roll it back up.

Hell, whatever it costs, the consumer will "gladly" pay for it anyway, whether it's a higher ticket price or jacked-up cable/satellite rates.
 
2013-04-02 10:40:31 PM  

CipollinaFan: You should not bike in LA the air quality is not safe for exercise.
If you go somewhere you should drive.


That should help the pollution.
 
2013-04-02 10:42:56 PM  

MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)
 
2013-04-02 10:43:13 PM  

xcv: rmatthewware: Maybe they should start realizing LA isn't the only city on the world.

Isn't that the problem? Aren't Canada and Central/Eastern Europe are already common stand-ins for most of America cause the Hollywood progressives don't mind undermining American labor when it would lower their profit margin?


It's not "undermining American labor", it's the fact that places like Canada give more tax breaks... Amazingly enough, someone outdoes the US in corporate welfare in one area...
 
2013-04-02 10:51:54 PM  
You know what?  F*ck'em.  Paint the road.
 
2013-04-02 10:51:58 PM  
Corporate welfare only works when a nation brings in enough ordinary tax revenue to maintain a respectable level of public services and infrastructure.

The United States, for reasons which would sicken me to describe, does not do that.
 
2013-04-02 10:52:43 PM  

Superjew: TaterTot_HotDish: this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them

No, it's an example of moviemakers who spend millions of dollars in the area by using it for location filming pointing out that the green paint obstructs that purpose.  Hyperbole much?


Sorry, there are parts of this city besides the 12 blocks in this story. they'll get over it. It's a classroom example of urban sprawl, I'm sure they can do the same in a different part of town.
 
2013-04-02 10:53:41 PM  
Article says March 30. Perhaps an early April Fools joke, as it's the only way to explain the stupidity.
 
2013-04-02 10:54:12 PM  

kg2095: funmonger: We're not even cheap labour up here anymore. We're skilled and we have unmatched movie infrastructure, thanks in part to gov incentives.

You can't possibly have unmatched movie infrastructure - the Australian movie industry has. As well as Australian farmers being the most efficient in the world, Australian produce being the best quality in the world, Australian actors taking Hollywood by storm, Australian I.T. entrepeneurs invading Silicon Valley and showing the 'Yanks' how it's done, Australian manufacturing being the most innovative in the world, the Australian economy being the envy of the world, Australia being God's own country, Australia punches above its weight in this and Australia is better than anyone else at that, blah, blah , blah - every time I turn on the TV, the radio or read a newspaper. Oh, and at the same time I will hear things like Americans are overly patriotic and big-headed,

Little country syndrome.


No, really. It is literally unmatched in soundstage size, and the a good many of the big films you watch are Meade here, at least in part.

Not sure what Little Country Syndrome is, but you sound fat.
 
2013-04-02 10:55:38 PM  
Bike lanes. There are far more ways to do them wrong than to do them right. And urban planners seem to be intent in finding and implementing each and every one of those wrong ways.

/and then there are the movie guys...
 
2013-04-02 10:56:06 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Corporate welfare only works when a nation brings in enough ordinary tax revenue to maintain a respectable level of public services and infrastructure.

The United States, for reasons which would sicken me to describe, does not do that.


Citation needed on the three points you make, please.
 
2013-04-02 10:56:16 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Corporate welfare only works when a nation brings in enough ordinary tax revenue to maintain a respectable level of public services and infrastructure.

The United States, for reasons which would sicken me to describe, does not do that.


Good point.
 
2013-04-02 10:58:22 PM  
Am I the only one here wondering why the scouts stopped scouting?
 
2013-04-02 10:59:23 PM  

Tentacle: Am I the only one here wondering why the scouts stopped scouting?


Got all the badges.
 
2013-04-02 11:01:43 PM  
memoryte.files.wordpress.com

Problem solved.

Or, maybe... just maybe... just spitballing here... movie makers could leave LA every once in a while. "Anywhere in the World" my ass.
 
2013-04-02 11:03:08 PM  

MrEricSir: Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

 
2013-04-02 11:04:01 PM  

Surool: MrEricSir: Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.


Aren't you cute.
 
2013-04-02 11:05:26 PM  

funmonger: kg2095: funmonger: We're not even cheap labour up here anymore. We're skilled and we have unmatched movie infrastructure, thanks in part to gov incentives.

You can't possibly have unmatched movie infrastructure - the Australian movie industry has. As well as Australian farmers being the most efficient in the world, Australian produce being the best quality in the world, Australian actors taking Hollywood by storm, Australian I.T. entrepeneurs invading Silicon Valley and showing the 'Yanks' how it's done, Australian manufacturing being the most innovative in the world, the Australian economy being the envy of the world, Australia being God's own country, Australia punches above its weight in this and Australia is better than anyone else at that, blah, blah , blah - every time I turn on the TV, the radio or read a newspaper. Oh, and at the same time I will hear things like Americans are overly patriotic and big-headed,

Little country syndrome.

No, really. It is literally unmatched in soundstage size, and the a good many of the big films you watch are Meade here, at least in part.

Not sure what Little Country Syndrome is, but you sound fat.


The "Steve McGarrett" character on Hawaii 5-0 is Australian. Not quite my type, but a handsome, likable representative of his nation / continent.

/book 'im, danno
 
2013-04-02 11:06:21 PM  
TaterTot_HotDish:
Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.

Meanwhile, I hate entitled bicycling assholes who think the world revolves around them and don't mind ignoring traffic laws.

And a not so CSB: NYPD cars have been parked outside of my apartment all day. Who says they only film in Vancouver?
 
2013-04-02 11:10:13 PM  

MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.


Danes are also real jerks if a foeign pedestrian walks across a bike path.
 
2013-04-02 11:15:16 PM  

Marine1: Surool: MrEricSir: Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

Aren't you cute.


I've been told that, but if you're a dude, you're out of luck.
 
2013-04-02 11:15:29 PM  

davidphogan: Dwight_Yeast: farkingatwork: this is 100% bullshiat. Calling it out now.

Why? When they want something to look period, they throw town tarp that looks convincingly like whatever happens to be period and you'd never know. It's incredibly easy to hide the "look" of a flat green strip.

This is another "Hollywood doesn't like change if it doesn't benefit them because they're the equivalent of the old people who protest gay marriage".

Not true at all.  They do sometimes truck in dirt, if they're shooting something set in the 19th century, but anything that takes place after that takes place on asphalt.  And if they're shooting at night, DPs farking LOVE to have the streets hosed down.  Seriously, watch any movie filmed in the last 40 years and if they're a night scene in the city the streets are ALWAYS wet.

The wet pavement thing is due to lighting.


No, they hose it down.  No way to fake that with lighting unless the lighting incidence is at a very low angle, less than a degree or two, so that it is near or beneath the angle of total reflection (very low for rough surfaces).
 
2013-04-02 11:18:32 PM  

Osomatic: BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?

Probably, but it's still a pain in the neck and even though it's cheaper these days, it's still an added expense.


I've taken 4 semesters of Adobe Premier/ After Effects classes in my IT track. I'm getting burned out on it, but for an experienced editor, we're talking an extra hour or two max taking care of something like this. Don't like the green lane? Add an adjustment layer, mask it out, apply color correction, and adjust the mask for the changes in the footage. That's it. With a few dozen people working on a project in an editing bay with some software they probably have on hand anyways and a halfway-decent rendering farm (or, hell, just a good set of graphics hardware in a single machine), this is taken care of before the directors finish lunch at the commissary.

LA (or for that matter, California) has far greater problems in keeping film/TV in town. Their tax rates have driven a good number of productions away. Breaking Bad was to be filmed in Riverside, CA; it was filmed in New Mexico instead due to tax credits. The rise of affordable editing software/computer hardware and decent DSLRs has also allowed people outside of the traditional system of film making to make much more elaborate productions without the corporate backing that a California studio would provide. A little bit of paint on pavement is nothing compared to that.
 
2013-04-02 11:19:09 PM  

ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.


If this is the same paint that they use to do lane markings than it IS extremely slick when wet. IIRC there was some talk of doing this in either San Mateo County or Santa Clara county and I gotta say, I'm not a fan.
When it's raining and I'm track standing on a lane marker (like for a cross walk) I always spin out when the light turns, always scares me.
 
2013-04-02 11:22:42 PM  
Location scouts 2020: The city needs to paint the bike lanes green so they match the bike lanes in other cities. Leaving them the same color as the rest of the road makes it hard for LA to fill in for other cities.
 
2013-04-02 11:28:25 PM  
No, we hose it down. We also truck in dirt; and pay extra for Fuller's earth. We hire social workers if we have kid models and pay police for road and crowd control. We pay studios to make logos to re-sign businesses, and rent props and clothing.

In short, we would have no issue painting a lane for a shot, then re-applying whatever they use. Sure it's more work, but it's no show stopper on top of all the other details that go into dressing a location.

And that's just on still shoots for a big three auto account. Strictly shoestring compared to movie budgets.
 
2013-04-02 11:28:28 PM  
I'm thinking of a bit of advice I got about living longer...

Don't get involved with Eastern Europeans.
Don't ride a bicycle anywhere that may have motor vehicles.
Don't walk and talk on a cell phone at the same time.
 
2013-04-02 11:29:36 PM  

SirHolo: davidphogan: Dwight_Yeast: farkingatwork: this is 100% bullshiat. Calling it out now.

Why? When they want something to look period, they throw town tarp that looks convincingly like whatever happens to be period and you'd never know. It's incredibly easy to hide the "look" of a flat green strip.

This is another "Hollywood doesn't like change if it doesn't benefit them because they're the equivalent of the old people who protest gay marriage".

Not true at all.  They do sometimes truck in dirt, if they're shooting something set in the 19th century, but anything that takes place after that takes place on asphalt.  And if they're shooting at night, DPs farking LOVE to have the streets hosed down.  Seriously, watch any movie filmed in the last 40 years and if they're a night scene in the city the streets are ALWAYS wet.

The wet pavement thing is due to lighting.

No, they hose it down.  No way to fake that with lighting unless the lighting incidence is at a very low angle, less than a degree or two, so that it is near or beneath the angle of total reflection (very low for rough surfaces).


I was posting from my phone and lazy.  I was agreeing with you, but adding that it's due to lighting reasons.  Wet pavement will reflect the soft light sources back up on the items in the foreground much more naturally than trying to put a second set of lights down facing up.  It screws up the shadows and stuff.  (I learned about it mostly when I was in college, it's been a while so I don't remember all the reasons.)

Grimm just filmed some scenes outside my house, and they had a special sprayer truck that looked like a piece of farm machinery drive by occasionally for all of the nighttime filming to spray down the street.
 
2013-04-02 11:32:05 PM  

Surool: FTA:"...  and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities. "

I don't think anyone believed that those palm trees were native to Cleveland, but you can keep telling yourselves you were doing a good job.


Yeah, but Cleveland makes a good NYC ... or Germany ... or any number of B-roll scenes from various films ...

Spiderman 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDc_IF_uCdg

The Avengers:

www.nypost.com
 
2013-04-02 11:37:05 PM  

TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.


Luckily the world revolves around cyclists.
 
2013-04-02 11:37:42 PM  

wildcardjack: I'm thinking of a bit of advice I got about living longer...

Don't get involved with Eastern Europeans.
Don't ride a bicycle anywhere that may have motor vehicles.
Don't walk and talk on a cell phone at the same time.


Don't mess around with Slim.
 
2013-04-02 11:41:00 PM  
Paint them bright red so we won't notice the blood when these pretentious assholes get run over.
 
2013-04-02 11:43:30 PM  
Screw the crying, multi-millionaire, movie execs.  Is a city really supposed to plan its transportation around filming? Puhleeze.  What is the priority here?  A somewhat livable city with good transportation or a play ground for movie directors?
 
2013-04-02 11:44:03 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?


Because they'd be forced to rely more on VFX houses they've been grossly underpaying.

andychrist420: funmonger: Funny how some Hollywood nativists get this way, protecting LA's film industry as if it wasn't 50% porn. Lobby your damned government for incentives, not injunctions.

Actually, most of the porn is filmed in the San Fernando Valley, miles north of downtown.  It's pretty low budget, and they usually film indoors anyway.  LA would be screwed without Hollywood and the peripheral industries.  It's never good to bite the hand that feeds you millions of dollars.


And the LA condom law is making porn move anyways.
 
2013-04-02 11:45:04 PM  

Brick-House: Paint them bright red so we won't notice the blood when these pretentious assholes get run over.


So now riding a farking bicycle is pretentious? Really?
 
2013-04-02 11:45:42 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Screw the crying, multi-millionaire, movie execs.  Is a city really supposed to plan its transportation around filming? Puhleeze.  What is the priority here?  A somewhat livable city with good transportation or a play ground for movie directors?


images1.wikia.nocookie.net
Not sure if serious
 
2013-04-03 12:05:53 AM  

Hollie Maea: These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.


We don't have green bike lanes (that I'm aware of).
 
2013-04-03 12:17:33 AM  

fusillade762: Hollie Maea: These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.

We don't have green bike lanes (that I'm aware of).


Broadway.
 
2013-04-03 12:18:49 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.


They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.
 
2013-04-03 12:20:19 AM  

sheep snorter: Green pavement? So like I could set up a picnic spot and eat lunch? Or maybe have my dog crap on since its green and not bother picking it up because nature and compost into the green pavement grass.

Paint parts of roadway green so bicycle people stay on it and stop swerving all over the lane of traffic and basically impeding traffic flow which is a ticket offense.
Get caught three times and impound the bicycle.
Use another bicycle and take a trip to jail for being a bicycling asshole.


Waaaaaaaah
 
2013-04-03 12:22:12 AM  

titwrench: TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.

More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.


Uninformed much?
 
2013-04-03 12:27:41 AM  
It isn't just movie filming, it's television and commercial filming. Go to downtown LA on any given Sunday morning and you can find at least one car commercial being filmed.

And most people would be surprised how many people are needed for what winds up as 5 seconds of video in a 30 second ad. Filming on location is still a big deal for LA.

I say fark 'em though.
 
2013-04-03 12:34:46 AM  
About to hit the hay, so don't know if anyone else said...We have those bright green lanes here in Boulder.  For a year or two now.  I shiat you not.
 
2013-04-03 12:37:59 AM  

blacksharpiemarker: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing. everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)


The problem in America (so I hear) is that we built many of our cities and suburbs around having cars. Built with the intention of being a car culture. Consequently, things are so decentralized in lots of places that you practically have to drive to get anything done. LA especially is one giant concrete span from the Ocean to the mountains, from Malibu to Camp Pendalton.  It's sad, but it makes it really difficult to convince people to ride instead of drive.
 
2013-04-03 12:39:27 AM  

mafiageek1980: Perhaps maybe Austin could benefit from having a green bike lane. It might keep some of the Lance-Armstrong wannabes out of the road (not saying ALL bicyclers are Lance Armstrong douchebags, but some are).


The law states that we are to ride as far to the right as is safe. If the far right is totally filled with glass and debris, then we are supposed to take up a car's spot in the right most lane.
 
2013-04-03 12:40:50 AM  

LordOfThePings: They'll get over it.

[www.globalrhetoric.com image 299x320]

Or not.


Look really closely at the neck area. Yikes.
 
2013-04-03 12:42:18 AM  

Marine1: Surool: MrEricSir: Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

Aren't you cute.


no =P
 
2013-04-03 12:44:59 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: blacksharpiemarker: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing. everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)

The problem in America (so I hear) is that we built many of our cities and suburbs around having cars. Built with the intention of being a car culture. Consequently, things are so decentralized in lots of places that you practically have to drive to get anything done. LA especially is one giant concrete span from the Ocean to the mountains, from Malibu to Camp Pendalton.  It's sad, but it makes it really difficult to convince people to ride instead of drive.


Very true, but a combination of public transportation and safe riding routes (for the last mile between transit lines and the destination) could help convince people to stop driving. LA Metro is already building lines from downtown to the sea, if we can get some safe bike routes from the stations to work destinations it will become really attractive to ditch the car especially if it saves time and money.
 
2013-04-03 12:45:15 AM  
Could be worse.  Some morons in the LA government could have it painted pink for breast cancer awareness.
 
2013-04-03 12:46:23 AM  

RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.


You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?
 
2013-04-03 12:50:33 AM  

TotallyHeadless: Uchiha_Cycliste: blacksharpiemarker: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing. everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)

The problem in America (so I hear) is that we built many of our cities and suburbs around having cars. Built with the intention of being a car culture. Consequently, things are so decentralized in lots of places that you practically have to drive to get anything done. LA especially is one giant concrete span from the Ocean to the mountains, from Malibu to Camp Pendalton.  It's sad, but it makes it really difficult to convince people to ride instead of drive.

Very true, but a combination of public transportation and safe riding routes (for the last mile between transit lines and the destination) could help convince people to stop driving. LA Metro is already building lines from downtown to the sea, if we can get some safe bike routes from the stations to work destinations it will become really attractive to ditch the car especially if it saves time and money.


I grew up in OC and live in the Bay area now. The difference is night and day. Orange county was passable in some places, LA scares the hell out of me, but where I am (on the Peninsula) I have no problem riding the 20 miles to work every day and riding part if the way home (cal train for the rest) Up here they took the time to have lots of bike lanes, wider roads and special bike routes to get from place to place and it really makes a world of difference.  I can see how they could do the same thing in a lot of cities, but LA isn;t one of them. Not to mention how rageful, preoccupied, self centered and dangerous all the drivers are. For all the reasons driving on the freeways is more fun down there, riding a bike is more dangerous.

\Expressways up here kick ass on a bike.
 
2013-04-03 12:54:31 AM  

Mister Peejay: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

This.  You quickly learn that there are two things you ride straight across without braking when the road is wet:  Metal, and paint stripes.

If you're lucky, you don't have to wait for your collarbone to knit.  But one hell of a way to drive the lesson home.


I was worried about this too, and then I just realized that it doesn't rain down there... so it's a moot point =P
 
2013-04-03 12:54:38 AM  
I live in an obscure part of Queens that is suddenly infested with television/movie crews when I'm trying to get to work, the industry seems to be blowing up in NYC.  Luckily I never hit it when they were actually filming, but it's still annoying as all hell traffic-wise even when they're just setting shiat up or taking it down.  My neighborhood is mostly made up of nearly 100 year old detached (albeit practically touching) houses so the north side of town is used to depict quaint old-school American suburbs and my side is used to depict semi-shiatty working class urban neighborhoods.  For people who commute through downtown LA, I'm sure any incentive to discourage film crews is welcome, screw the fact that you get to see part of your real world on TV.
 
2013-04-03 12:58:59 AM  
One time Jack Bauer disarmed a biological bomb in my old chemistry room in high school. True story.
 
2013-04-03 12:59:29 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: TotallyHeadless: Uchiha_Cycliste: blacksharpiemarker: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing. everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)

The problem in America (so I hear) is that we built many of our cities and suburbs around having cars. Built with the intention of being a car culture. Consequently, things are so decentralized in lots of places that you practically have to drive to get anything done. LA especially is one giant concrete span from the Ocean to the mountains, from Malibu to Camp Pendalton.  It's sad, but it makes it really difficult to convince people to ride instead of drive.

Very true, but a combination of public transportation and safe riding routes (for the last mile between transit lines and the destination) could help convince people to stop driving. LA Metro is already building lines from downtown to the sea, if we can get some safe bike routes from the stations to work destinations it will become really attractive to ditch the car especially if it saves time and money.

I grew up in OC and live in the Bay area now. The difference is night and day. Orange county was passable in some places, LA scares the hell out of me, but where I am (on the Peninsula) I have no problem riding the 20 miles to work every day and riding part if the way home (cal train for the rest) Up here they took the time to have lots of bike lanes, wider roads and special bike routes to get from place to place and it really makes a world of difference.  I can see how they could do the same thing in a lot of cities, but LA isn;t one of them. Not to mention how rageful, preoccupied, self centered and dangerous all the drivers are. For all the reasons driving on the freeways is more fun down there, riding a bike is more dangerous.

\Expressways up here kick ass on a bike.


Cycling in LA is scary as hell, I'm afraid for cyclists even when I'm driving. That's why I think that cycling has to have some safe corridors in specific places in LA. I admit it will never work for the whole city, but if there is a clever way of linking these corridors with public transportation (trains mostly), one could easily save hours in traffic over the work week. That may be attractive for people who drive because they have to, not because they want to.
 
2013-04-03 01:11:30 AM  

RabidJade: They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know).


Don't forget the pedestrians. Just think how much is spent maintaining sidewalks that are used by freeloaders who pay NO shoe tax!

WHEN WILL THE CLASS WARFARE END?!
 
2013-04-03 01:25:57 AM  

TotallyHeadless: Uchiha_Cycliste: TotallyHeadless: Uchiha_Cycliste: blacksharpiemarker: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing. everything

/FTFY
//Miss me some European roundabouts and speed limits (or lack thereof)

The problem in America (so I hear) is that we built many of our cities and suburbs around having cars. Built with the intention of being a car culture. Consequently, things are so decentralized in lots of places that you practically have to drive to get anything done. LA especially is one giant concrete span from the Ocean to the mountains, from Malibu to Camp Pendalton.  It's sad, but it makes it really difficult to convince people to ride instead of drive.

Very true, but a combination of public transportation and safe riding routes (for the last mile between transit lines and the destination) could help convince people to stop driving. LA Metro is already building lines from downtown to the sea, if we can get some safe bike routes from the stations to work destinations it will become really attractive to ditch the car especially if it saves time and money.

I grew up in OC and live in the Bay area now. The difference is night and day. Orange county was passable in some places, LA scares the hell out of me, but where I am (on the Peninsula) I have no problem riding the 20 miles to work every day and riding part if the way home (cal train for the rest) Up here they took the time to have lots of bike lanes, wider roads and special bike routes to get from place to place and it really makes a world of difference.  I can see how they could do the same thing in a lot of cities, but LA isn;t one of them. Not to mention how rageful, preoccupied, self centered and dangerous all the drivers are. For all the reasons driving on the freeways is more fun down there, riding a bike is more dangerous.

\Expressways up here kick ...


It would be great if LA could do that, but honestly  they don't have much room to expand. Everything is accounted for.
 
2013-04-03 01:38:37 AM  

Marine1: I've taken 4 semesters of Adobe Premier/ After Effects classes in my IT track. I'm getting burned out on it, but for an experienced editor, we're talking an extra hour or two max taking care of something like this. Don't like the green lane? Add an adjustment layer, mask it out, apply color correction, and adjust the mask for the changes in the footage. That's it. With a few dozen people working on a project in an editing bay with some software they probably have on hand anyways and a halfway-decent rendering farm (or, hell, just a good set of graphics hardware in a single machine), this is taken care of before the directors finish lunch at the commissary.


I do this sort of thing for a living, and you are so woefully misguided that it's laughable.

First off, most projects don't have the sort of crew on hand in the cutting room to do what you're talking about, and most editors don't have anything close to the expertise to do it themselves. Rendering farm? Special software and hardware? Haha! You're joking, right? Generally, if it can't be done in Avid by the assistant editor, it doesn't happen until the shot is bid out to a VFX house--and that takes weeks or months before you even know if it's possible to get a satisfactory result.

If the shot moves at all, you're hosed. If anyone walks in front of the green paint, you're hosed. Green screens have to be lit carefully so the color is uniform, which painted road will certainly not be. This sort of effect would not be trivial to do, and could potentially run into many thousands of dollars for a VFX house to do, since it would probably involve rotoscoping, motion tracking, matte painting, and other (expensive) techniques to make it look halfway decent.

Even if it took "an extra hour or two max", which it wouldn't, we're talking about potentially dozens or hundreds of shots here, and that's just in the offline. No producer wants to spend $100,000 getting rid of some goddamn green paint on the ground when it comes time to actually finish the shots.

Something like 1 in 6 people in LA are employed in some capacity in the entertainment industry. It's effectively a Hollywood company town, and the city would do well to listen to its financial lifeblood. Enough productions are already leaving the state in droves. Why give them one more reason to do so?
 
2013-04-03 02:17:12 AM  

RabidJade: They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.


Fun fact: Most people who own bikes also own cars!
Also, by your logic, roads shouldn't ever by modified to have sidewalks on them because pedestrians are "untaxed and unregulated".
 
2013-04-03 02:43:03 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Marine1: Surool: MrEricSir: Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

Aren't you cute.

no =P


I didn't praise America where it wasn't worthy? I feel turrible.
 
2013-04-03 02:51:01 AM  
Proof that cyclists are dildoes? The whining about the fact that bike lanes aren't being made even more obvious. LA isn't decreasing them. They aren't punishing bikers. LA is just listening to filmmakers, who say that this particular system will make it harder to make period pieces. And it doesn't appear that they will do even that.  ZOMG! HATE AGAINST CYCLISTS! CYCLISTS DESERVE THE ROAD MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND fark YOU PEOPLE WITH CARS!
 
2013-04-03 02:51:40 AM  
Ima4nic8or: Screw the crying, multi-millionaire, movie execs.  Is a city really supposed to plan its transportation around filming? Puhleeze.  What is the priority here?  A somewhat livable city with good transportation or a play ground for movie directors?


The city's priority is also to provide jobs.  The green painted lane don't just "screw multimillionaire execs" and movie directors don't use the downtown as a hobby or "playground" as you term it.  Actually, it interferes wit a business which provides work to lots of people who aren't multimillionaire movie execs.  I note you live in CA... maybe you've seen a film production or actuallty been on a set.
 
2013-04-03 03:05:40 AM  

Osomatic: BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?

Probably, but it's still a pain in the neck and even though it's cheaper these days, it's still an added expense.


Its really not, i did a bunch of green screen stuff for a movie me and my friends made screwing around in high school ten years ago, took about 10 minutes IIRC on my home PC ten years ago. Local news stations have been doing live weather green screens for how many decades now? Thats probably among the reasons they painted it bright green in the first place.


GuidoDelConfuso: If the shot moves at all, you're hosed. If anyone walks in front of the green paint, you're hosed. Green screens have to be lit carefully so the color is uniform, which painted road will certainly not be. This sort of effect would not be trivial to do, and could potentially run into many thousands of dollars for a VFX house to do, since it would probably involve rotoscoping, motion tracking, matte painting, and other (expensive) techniques to make it look halfway decent.


How do they do it live using an unevenly lit fast panned with players running all over it football field as a green screen every sunday then?
 
2013-04-03 03:23:33 AM  

CruJones: Maybe try filming in the actual city being portrayed.


It's way too expensive for the average TV show or even movie to do a five-minute shot in New York or Chicago when they can just step outside and use "generic city street" in Los Angeles. Unless they're a massively-budgeted blockbuster, and need to go to Istanbul to do six weeks of filming to show Matt Damon jumping through windows, you're going to do it in South Central and change all the license plates on the cars.

That said, I've seen plenty of film productions, and even worked on a couple, and there are a shiatload of streets where they can film perfectly good "generic city street" shots that are not Sixth Street. This just sounds like the union being really lazy to me.
 
2013-04-03 03:27:51 AM  

rkiller1: Huck And Molly Ziegler: Corporate welfare only works when a nation brings in enough ordinary tax revenue to maintain a respectable level of public services and infrastructure.

The United States, for reasons which would sicken me to describe, does not do that.

Citation needed on the three points you make, please.


I cannot. I shall therefore amend it to include the phrase "in my opinion." Plus, in retrospect, it was simplistic of me to refer to "a nation" bringing in tax revenue when so many other political entities are also responsible for taxation for basic public services and infrastructure.

However, I stand by my basic point, that with so many schools in need of resources, so many people in need of decent health care and so many bridges in need of repair -- not everywhere, but many places --- it's clear that some money somewhere is not getting collected the way it should, whether due to tax rates or tax breaks.
 
2013-04-03 03:38:50 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: rkiller1: Huck And Molly Ziegler: Corporate welfare only works when a nation brings in enough ordinary tax revenue to maintain a respectable level of public services and infrastructure.

The United States, for reasons which would sicken me to describe, does not do that.

Citation needed on the three points you make, please.

I cannot. I shall therefore amend it to include the phrase "in my opinion." Plus, in retrospect, it was simplistic of me to refer to "a nation" bringing in tax revenue when so many other political entities are also responsible for taxation for basic public services and infrastructure.

However, I stand by my basic point, that with so many schools in need of resources, so many people in need of decent health care and so many bridges in need of repair -- not everywhere, but many places --- it's clear that some money somewhere is not getting collected the way it should, whether due to tax rates or tax breaks.


I would opine that the money is getting collected in both the way that it should and in the amount that is needed; it is merely not being allocated correctly.
 
2013-04-03 04:20:28 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: fusillade762: Hollie Maea: These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.

We don't have green bike lanes (that I'm aware of).

Broadway.


Apparently they've also never been to Santa Monica, less than 20 miles away.  It's a lot closer than Portland, so you'd think it at least would have been on the LA Times site or in a blog or something.
 
2013-04-03 04:21:36 AM  
 
2013-04-03 04:43:25 AM  

Cyno01: How do they do it live using an unevenly lit fast panned with players running all over it football field as a green screen every sunday then?


*SIGH* If you really want to know, Google it. But the short answer is this: They build a 3D topographic map of the entire field beforehand, and collect pan/tilt data from the camera in real time in order to figure out where to place the graphic overlay. The green field is part of a relatively controlled environment designed for the express purpose of playing televised football, so it's fairly straightforward to chromakey in real time. It's not perfect though, as you'll occasionally notice if you look carefully. The system costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, and must be specifically designed for every field where it is used.

Keying out an evenly lit green screen in a controlled environment where you don't have to deal with motion tracking at all is a completely different problem from replacing part of a shot in a film shot on location. Saying you were able to do a green screen effect in high school so it can't be that hard is about as ignorant as saying that climbing Mt. Everest can't be that hard because you used to take nature hikes as a Boy Scout.
 
2013-04-03 04:47:05 AM  

SirEattonHogg: Ima4nic8or: Screw the crying, multi-millionaire, movie execs.  Is a city really supposed to plan its transportation around filming? Puhleeze.  What is the priority here?  A somewhat livable city with good transportation or a play ground for movie directors?


The city's priority is also to provide jobs.  The green painted lane don't just "screw multimillionaire execs" and movie directors don't use the downtown as a hobby or "playground" as you term it.  Actually, it interferes wit a business which provides work to lots of people who aren't multimillionaire movie execs.  I note you live in CA... maybe you've seen a film production or actuallty been on a set.


How about moving one street over.
 
2013-04-03 05:12:26 AM  

Mikey1969: Their concern: The bright color would be a distraction to viewers, doesn't belong in period movies and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities.

Hey guys... BIKE LANES don't usually belong in period movies...

Get over it.


maybe LA should have let the street paved with koblestones (or just dirt), and ban everyone to build modern building around it?
 
2013-04-03 05:21:50 AM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Bike lanes. There are far more ways to do them wrong than to do them right. And urban planners seem to be intent in finding and implementing each and every one of those wrong ways.


this it how it works:
you build really crappy, bumpy, dangerous bike line.
-if cyclist use them, they are farked
-if cyclist dont use them, they are farked to, because car-drivers will try to kill them, "they should use the bike lane" is for some morons enough of a reason.
End of the game, people stick to their cars because it is the only safe and confortable mean of transport.
Now I'm not saying there is lobying from the car-industry or such, but there are a lot of bike-lanes in Berlin and everywhere in Germany that can't be explained by sheer stupidity alone.
 
2013-04-03 07:31:05 AM  

MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.


Just watch out for the gargoyles.
 
2013-04-03 07:58:23 AM  
Just roller paint a water soluble any other color over the lanes while  you are renting the privilege to shoot them.
Hose them off when you are done.

Next topic: Why mainstream Hollywood movies suck donkey balls.
 
2013-04-03 08:30:27 AM  
Slow news day?
 
2013-04-03 08:32:40 AM  
This is why the Republik of Kalifornia is bankrupt.

Ever ridden a bike on wet paint?  Its awesome....so much traction you don't know what to do with it all...
 
2013-04-03 09:04:41 AM  

On-Off: Mikey1969: Their concern: The bright color would be a distraction to viewers, doesn't belong in period movies and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities.

Hey guys... BIKE LANES don't usually belong in period movies...

Get over it.

maybe LA should have let the street paved with koblestones (or just dirt), and ban everyone to build modern building around it?


For the true period feel, it should only be here and buggies on the street, too.
 
2013-04-03 09:07:06 AM  
Weren't there numerous articles in the last month about how movie studios are moving out of hollywood and business that were dependant on hollywood were suffering?

Which is it?
 
2013-04-03 09:10:04 AM  

GuidoDelConfuso: Marine1: I've taken 4 semesters of Adobe Premier/ After Effects classes in my IT track. I'm getting burned out on it, but for an experienced editor, we're talking an extra hour or two max taking care of something like this. Don't like the green lane? Add an adjustment layer, mask it out, apply color correction, and adjust the mask for the changes in the footage. That's it. With a few dozen people working on a project in an editing bay with some software they probably have on hand anyways and a halfway-decent rendering farm (or, hell, just a good set of graphics hardware in a single machine), this is taken care of before the directors finish lunch at the commissary.

I do this sort of thing for a living, and you are so woefully misguided that it's laughable.

First off, most projects don't have the sort of crew on hand in the cutting room to do what you're talking about, and most editors don't have anything close to the expertise to do it themselves. Rendering farm? Special software and hardware? Haha! You're joking, right? Generally, if it can't be done in Avid by the assistant editor, it doesn't happen until the shot is bid out to a VFX house--and that takes weeks or months before you even know if it's possible to get a satisfactory result.

If the shot moves at all, you're hosed. If anyone walks in front of the green paint, you're hosed. Green screens have to be lit carefully so the color is uniform, which painted road will certainly not be. This sort of effect would not be trivial to do, and could potentially run into many thousands of dollars for a VFX house to do, since it would probably involve rotoscoping, motion tracking, matte painting, and other (expensive) techniques to make it look halfway decent.

Even if it took "an extra hour or two max", which it wouldn't, we're talking about potentially dozens or hundreds of shots here, and that's just in the offline. No producer wants to spend $100,000 getting rid of some goddamn green paint on the ground when it c ...


Solution: point the camera in a direction where the green lane is not viable.  Alt. Solution:  Leave the damn bike lane in, who gives a fark. Maybe more cities will adopt green bike lanes after seeing them in movies and the problem is yet again solved.
 
2013-04-03 09:35:05 AM  

Medic Zero: titwrench: TaterTot_HotDish: ZAZ: I thought paint was too slippery for bicycles. There are plastic coatings, but they are expensive to cover an area as opposed to a line.

I've ridden on this kind of green paint (they're misinformed when they say 'it doesn't exist in any other city' - yes, it does, idiots), and it has sand or something added to it to give it some grit.  But it's still a bit slipperier than asphalt.

Also, this is an excellent example of entitled Hollywood assholes who thinks the world revolves around them and don't mind sacrificing some non-celebrity bicyclists if it keeps their movie budgets lower.

More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.

Uninformed much?


Like to make a snark comment without anything to back it up much? There is no requirement that I know of that requires cyclists to contribute to the maintenance and/or any changes they cry about all the the time. And no your car registration and fuel taxes don't count. Roads are for cars, yes bikes are allowed to use them but that doesn't give those God damned mosquitos the right to block traffic, run stop signs and red lights and certainly does not give them the right to dictate how the roads are used. Streets are not a farking playground for all the god damned Lance Armstrong wannabes to buzz around on.
 
2013-04-03 09:42:30 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.

You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?


Sales tax? Really? I paid sales tax on my AR-15 too does that mean I can set up a shooting range on main street? If that is your argument shut the fark up. Sorry but the extra $20 you spent on your Schwinn doesn't give you Carte Blanche to clog up the streets.
 
2013-04-03 09:46:06 AM  

sheep snorter: Green pavement? So like I could set up a picnic spot and eat lunch? Or maybe have my dog crap on since its green and not bother picking it up because nature and compost into the green pavement grass.

Paint parts of roadway green so bicycle people stay on it and stop swerving all over the lane of traffic and basically impeding traffic flow which is a ticket offense.
Get caught three times and impound the bicycle.
Use another bicycle and take a trip to jail for being a bicycling asshole.


You're a ticket offense.
 
2013-04-03 09:48:15 AM  

titwrench: Uchiha_Cycliste: RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.

You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?

Sales tax? Really? I paid sales tax on my AR-15 too does that mean I can set up a shooting range on main street? If that is your argument shut the fark up. Sorry but the extra $20 you spent on your Schwinn doesn't give you Carte Blanche to clog up the streets.


Yeah it does.
 
2013-04-03 10:00:56 AM  

titwrench: Uchiha_Cycliste: RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.

You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?

Sales tax? Really? I paid sales tax on my AR-15 too does that mean I can set up a shooting range on main street? If that is your argument shut the fark up. Sorry but the extra $20 you spent on your Schwinn doesn't give you Carte Blanche to clog up the streets.


No, the Law says that I can use the streets and that I am classified as a vehicle. I'm just pointing out that we do pay taxes. You are either lying or woefully misinformed. Besides, would you prefer all of us that ride bikes drove instead? One person to a car. Do you have any appreciation for the reduction in traffic and pollution are responsible? What are you upset about? The VAST majority of cyclists are never in your way, and when they are it's because the far right is unsafe. Can you express what is pissing you off? Did a cyclist rape your puppy when you were 5? What the hell?
 
2013-04-03 10:08:29 AM  
Anyways, heh... I'm gonna ride to work now. We'll continue this later =D
 
2013-04-03 10:54:11 AM  
I live in Ventura County (next to LA County) and we have them here too.  Very ugly.
 
2013-04-03 11:34:20 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: MrEricSir: [img844.imageshack.us image 510x318]

Copenhagen has grade/curb separated bike lanes with separate stoplights for bikes. Americans are horribly behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

Just watch out for the gargoyles.


www.examiner.com

Approves
 
2013-04-03 11:57:22 AM  

titwrench: Uchiha_Cycliste: RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.

You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?

Sales tax? Really? I paid sales tax on my AR-15 too does that mean I can set up a shooting range on main street? If that is your argument shut the fark up. Sorry but the extra $20 you spent on your Schwinn doesn't give you Carte Blanche to clog up the streets.


You should vent your anger in person, bicyclists have a special gathering where frustrated motorists like yourself can talk to the cyclists about their concerns. Just keep an eye out for the next critical mass ride and don't forgot to be as big an asshole IRL as you are on the Internet.
 
2013-04-03 12:04:59 PM  
Health?  Safety?  Forget that stuff!  What is really important is that you don't inconvenience Hollywood a tiny bit.
 
2013-04-03 12:08:48 PM  
It's too bad they don't have the technology to edit green out of a shot.
 
2013-04-03 12:34:10 PM  

titwrench: Roads are for cars,


No.  Roads are for vehicles.  A bicycle is a vehicle entitled to exactly the same rights on the road as a car.

You are correct that bicyclists often don't follow the same responsibilities as those driving in a car do.
 
2013-04-03 12:47:50 PM  
Evil Saltine: The city's priority is also to provide jobs.  The green painted lane don't just "screw multimillionaire execs" and movie directors don't use the downtown as a hobby or "playground" as you term it.  Actually, it interferes wit a business which provides work to lots of people who aren't multimillionaire movie execs.  I note you live in CA... maybe you've seen a film production or actuallty been on a set.

How about moving one street over.



Sure. And I'm not convinced how big a deal it is.  OTOH, and as others pointed out, when you're in the middle of economic hardtimes and you are competing with NYC, several US states and Canada for filming locations, why further piss off the biggest employer(s) in town?

Manimal 2878 Weren't there numerous articles in the last month about how movie studios are moving out of hollywood and business that were dependant on hollywood were suffering?

Which is it?



It's a complicated picture.  Fact is some shows and movies have or are in the process of moving out.  The numbers of film shoots in LA County are down. Reality is the salad days of Hollywood are over. But as far as I know, the studios aren't moving.  As such, LA still has the definite advantage of economies of scale (as others have pointed out).  The backlot studios, soundstages, equipment rental and supporting industries are all here and other locations don't have the same scale... (except say, NYC and Vancouver).  Not to mention the manpower such as the crews and the talent are here (Yeah, sure you can fly George Clooney to whatever location, but what about the need for everyone else from supporting down to background?).  As such, everyday there are still plenty of TV shows shooting every single day here plus movies (including plenty of low budget and commercial stuff) and commercials.   The question is whether the damage is already done or LA is still on a decline as to relates to the "Industry".

For example, New Mexico was able in the last few years to grab several movies and also Breaking Bad.  But, I'm curious about the costs on that.  Breaking Bad is wrapping up filming. However, there are still occassional movies that decide to do everything in NM instead of LA, and they might get another show or two. I assume they have all the support stuff as in LA, but if there are less movies/shows filmed there is it more expensive to pay for all those things (or does the tax advantage really more than make up for it).
 
2013-04-03 01:06:35 PM  

GameSprocket: Surool: FTA:"...  and makes it harder for L.A. to do what it does best: play other cities. "

I don't think anyone believed that those palm trees were native to Cleveland, but you can keep telling yourselves you were doing a good job.

This wasn't really Wisconsin?!!!

[d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net image 470x320]



CSB
When they were filming Public Enemies in my town, the big early 1900's era hotel stood in for one in Arizona, so they put  a Saguro cactus in front. So i guess you really can be anywhere.
I kinda wish they had kept a replica of it up to confound future generations.
 
2013-04-03 02:15:03 PM  
As a Californian and someone who just started using Metrolink trains and a bike to get to and from work, I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-04-03 02:49:02 PM  

CipollinaFan: You should not bike in LA the air quality is not safe for exercise.
If you go somewhere you should drive.


Compared to 20 years ago it's paradise. Mornings aren't a greyish yellow haze every day for six months straight anymore, thanks largely to tighter vehicle pollution controls.

/Still get a few days of that every year, though.
//If it's not safe to bike it's not safe to breathe at all, and recirculating the A/C in your car isn't going to keep you from breathing the VOCs.
 
2013-04-03 02:58:39 PM  

titwrench: More like the entitled cyclists want the scenery to change to suit them. The Hollywood types want to keep everything the same. When they start to require cyclists to register their bikes and help contribute tax dollars to the maintenance of the roads then the cyclists can have some say as to how the roads are used until then shut the fark up and get out of the way.


Really? I'd gladly pay a licensing and registration fee for my bicycle if it meant roads would be designed and restriped with me in mind. Fark, it's nearly impossible to even get some of my local reps to accept that bicycles shouldn't be banned from the roadway entirely. At least if they saw the money, greed might win over the curmudgeons. I suspect most adult cyclists would approve, although poor college students would whine all day long about it cutting into their Pabst money.

But fark anyone for thinking bicycles should pay an equal share of transportation dollars, when it's big trucks, SUVs, and cars that ruin the roads, in that order.

/Special bike paths should be paid for out of a bike licensing fund, not the whiny biatches general fund.
 
2013-04-03 03:10:04 PM  

Fano: Proof that cyclists are dildoes? The whining about the fact that bike lanes aren't being made even more obvious. LA isn't decreasing them. They aren't punishing bikers. LA is just listening to filmmakers, who say that this particular system will make it harder to make period pieces. And it doesn't appear that they will do even that.  ZOMG! HATE AGAINST CYCLISTS! CYCLISTS DESERVE THE ROAD MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND fark YOU PEOPLE WITH CARS!


You might want to up your meds again.
 
2013-04-03 03:32:59 PM  
this is what happens when you slowly get rid of practical effects guys.
The old guys are probably laughing.
 
2013-04-03 03:49:42 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I'm no video expert.  Can't they do a little "green screen" special effects to get rid of that green bike lane?


They already do that. It's really crazy just how often they do this kind of thing.

Barely a film is made anymore that doesn't have a ton of photo real replacement elements in it.
 
2013-04-03 03:55:15 PM  

GuidoDelConfuso: All sorts of actual facts about actual post production and vfx techniques.


I'm late to the party here and this thread is just about dead, but just needed to applaud your efforts. The only reason anyone says "it's just a simple thing to..." is because they don't want to pay for it.

Likewise, when someone says "I/my friend/my nephew/NFL/NASA did it and it was easy," means that they don't understand the cost/quality/speed relationship of the process.

Making broadcast/theater quality video effects is expensive. Period. Anyone that doesn't think so is just a cheapskate or, as they are known in the industry...clients.
 
2013-04-03 09:00:26 PM  

fusillade762: Hollie Maea: These don't exist in any other city? Dumbasses have never been to Portland, apparently.

We don't have green bike lanes (that I'm aware of).


We have *bike boxes*, and in some intersections the number of right hook accidents actually doubled.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Changes-coming-to-some-Portland-bike- bo xes-175449051.html
 
2013-04-05 06:34:58 AM  

kapaso: titwrench: Uchiha_Cycliste: RabidJade: Dwight_Yeast: ...and that's where you started looking like an idiot.  Most cyclists own cars.  They buy gas for cars which is taxed to maintain the road.  Understand?

/the next lesson involves the fact that the original reason roads were paved with asphalt was for cyclists, not cars, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

They are also using a untaxed, unregulated vehicle on a roadway which was changed to accommodate them (all the fancy lines, curbs, and other paint for bicycle lanes/trails costs money you know). Also you last fact is probably wrong.

You don't think there's sales tax on bikes?

Sales tax? Really? I paid sales tax on my AR-15 too does that mean I can set up a shooting range on main street? If that is your argument shut the fark up. Sorry but the extra $20 you spent on your Schwinn doesn't give you Carte Blanche to clog up the streets.

You should vent your anger in person, bicyclists have a special gathering where frustrated motorists like yourself can talk to the cyclists about their concerns. Just keep an eye out for the next critical mass ride and don't forgot to be as big an asshole IRL as you are on the Internet.


I'm disappointed in Critical Mass. It started as a good idea but has long since become a self-defeating event. In a lot of ways I consider it to be like PETA, MADD and the Sierra Club. All of these groups started as good ideas with noble goals and have all lost sight of what they were trying to accomplish. Critical Mass started with the intention of getting people's attention and educating them about what rights cyclists have in addition to drawing people's attention to the fact that there are in fact cyclists on the road, with every right to be there. Now a days all they do is piss people off and instead of making the streets safer for cyclists they are more dangerous. sigh,
 
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