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2013-04-02 08:58:40 PM
7 votes:
Racketeering. You're going to charge a bunch of teachers with racketeering for falsifying test scores, but not a single Wall Street investment banker is ever charged with any crime for their role in the meltdown. An entire international bank full of money launderers gets off with a fine paid for by THE VERY PROFITS THEY MADE FROM MONEY LAUNDERING, but teachers trying to game No Child Left Behind now have a bail bondsman.

My Farking God.
2013-04-02 08:06:19 PM
7 votes:

violentsalvation: They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.


nobody disagrees that this was against the law.
nobody disagrees that the teacher(s) involved should be punished.

thing is...we let bankers walk on laundering a LOT of money for drug cartels.  see, it sets up a very weird standard for 'justice'.  we're throwing teachers in jail over setting up a test scam, but we let rich bankers walk after laundering a shiat f*ck ton of drug money.  in effect, our society is saying drug use/abuse and money laundering is LESS a crime than this teacher scandal.
2013-04-02 08:07:33 PM
5 votes:

violentsalvation: They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.


Apparently you haven't seen the AIMS test here in Arizona, or what's going on in the classrooms to make these kids pass it. School has never been "fun" for any generation, but the kids going through the system now are sitting in torture chambers. Kids who aren't fluent in English get about 4.5 hours of ELL instruction and "Language Arts" a day plus math. No science, no social studies, no recess, except maybe the 15 minutes they get if they can scarf their monochrome-yellow lunch down in 10. No adult would put up with that. You would jump the wall or try to organize a bloody revolution. The kids have no choice.

I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting. There is a concerted effort to destroy public education in this country and high-stakes testing is the justification. You'd shiat yourself if you saw how much of your tax money is going to private consulting firms and private tutoring companies that hire barely-literate tutors, instead of directly to the thousands of classrooms that need it.
2013-04-02 09:11:53 PM
4 votes:
$1,000,000 - yes, a one and six zeroes - for standardized test cheating, and meanwhile the human waste,  Stevie Marie Anne Vigil, who straw purchased guns for Evan Ebel, is out on $25,000 bond.  An accomplice to murder, walking free for $25K.  The US justice system is seriously farked.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22917173/commerce-city-wom an -charged-ebel-straw-purchase-released
2013-04-02 11:39:21 PM
3 votes:

feckingmorons: Are you suggesting


Big to small, fecking, big to small.

You don't arrest the town drunk for having an open bottle when there's a murderer running around with a shotgun on main street.

You don't bother investigating millions of dollars in fraud until the farker who're committing BILLIONS in fraud are put in jail first.

That's how a rational person approaches problems. Legal training removes rationality and replaces is with what you can get away with using sophistry. It's Lawful Evil.
2013-04-02 10:12:48 PM
3 votes:
Its always easy to go after the weak and powerless.  Some guy laundering money might have a DA and his wife, or a assistant DA killed in a hail of bullets.  Teachers are a safe target.
2013-04-02 09:10:59 PM
3 votes:

violentsalvation: They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.


Actually, all they did was fail to measure and report the effect of shiat properly.
2013-04-02 09:08:07 PM
3 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting.


Off-topic, but you'll like this. My nephew is a 15-year-old musician (trombonist) in Northern Arizona. As a matter of fact, he's got a jazz concert to perform at tonight in Kingman. Today, after school, I gave him my grandfather's 1943 Martin mandolin. He's mature enough to know that he wasn't ready to keep it in his room, so he asked me to hold on to it for him, until he's got a secure place to keep it. So y'all teachers (and his parents) are getting through to at least some of the kids you see everyday. Please keep it up. Thanks.
2013-04-02 09:04:39 PM
3 votes:
I'm still waiting to see Michelle Rhee take her walk over this stuff.  Her 'miraculous' early success years in Baltimore with Teach For America (which launched her into her DC years, as well as a decade-plus of grant-seeking and book-writing) don't, it turns out, have the slightest bit of evidence or corroboration.  Records just sorta, well, who knows where records go.
2013-04-02 08:25:02 PM
3 votes:

Weaver95: ecmoRandomNumbers:
I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting. There is a concerted effort to destroy public education in this country and high-stakes testing is the justification. You'd shiat yourself if you saw how much of your tax money is going to private consulting firms and private tutoring companies that hire barely-literate tutors, instead of directly to the thousands of classrooms that need it.

i'm hoping this is merely the result of GOP stupidity and misconceptions rather than a coordinated plan to make next generation voters stupid.


It would take an evil genius to make this a true, evil conspiracy. It's really just about money.

Public funds are being diverted from schools to private companies. We spend a LOT of money on education and you can ask just about any teacher in any state where the money is going, and they'll give you three answers: 1) The district is top-heavy. More is spent on administration in some small districts than on teachers and paraprofessionals. More chiefs than Indians. This is usually the local board's fault, though. 2) Private tutors as required when a school goes into corrective action because they don't make AYP. 3) Testing. Pre-assessments, practice tests, reteaching, re-testing, re-testing, re-testing, and finally, again, testing. The state also has to pay to have those tests graded. By whom? Private companies. All these companies are constantly lobbying state representatives and school districts for preferential treatment.
2013-04-02 06:17:38 PM
3 votes:
Arrested yes, but 45yrs? Murderers get less than that. I agree that what they did was wrong. I'm surprised at the amount of time that lady is facing.
2013-04-03 12:22:44 AM
2 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: You don't want mandatory minimums for bankers?


The bankers weren't even prosecuted, despite being caught red handed laundering huge sums of money for drug cartels and terrorist organizations.
2013-04-02 10:26:45 PM
2 votes:

johnryan51: Arrested yes, but 45yrs? Murderers get less than that. I agree that what they did was wrong. I'm surprised at the amount of time that lady is facing.


I'm not. These teachers did more than merely forge some tests and take some money. They totally blew wide open the whole retarded scam known as "No Child Left Behind" and SATs. The Powers That Be don't like to have their schemes exposed. Not one bit.
2013-04-02 09:26:49 PM
2 votes:

jayhawk88: Racketeering. You're going to charge a bunch of teachers with racketeering for falsifying test scores, but not a single Wall Street investment banker is ever charged with any crime for their role in the meltdown. An entire international bank full of money launderers gets off with a fine paid for by THE VERY PROFITS THEY MADE FROM MONEY LAUNDERING, but teachers trying to game No Child Left Behind now have a bail bondsman.

My Farking God.


I agree. And it breaks my heart that we have millions of firearms owners in teh USA that do nothing about Wall Street piracy, corporate scandals and WashDC shenanigans that we read about almost every damn week. I realized long ago that people in this country will tolerate anything. It makes me ashamed.
2013-04-02 09:16:56 PM
2 votes:
15 mug shots of corrupt educrats. 14 blacks, 1 asian. Just what I'd expect from the corrupt cesspool of black liberal racists that is Atlanta.
2013-04-02 07:59:11 PM
2 votes:

feckingmorons: Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they didn't launder money?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they are teachers and administrators?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because it was a conspiracy and they acted in concert so they are not individually responsible.

Their actions as alleged in the charging documents are illegal, unethical and done solely for personal gain - for bonuses, for promotions, for job security. They should be arrested and tried just like anyone else who is accused of committing a crime.


Nobody is suggesting any of those things, but it is nice to see you living up to your handle.
2013-04-02 07:07:53 PM
2 votes:
They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.
2013-04-03 12:33:32 AM
1 votes:
For those of you who don't keep up with recent events...

The deal was announced quietly, just before the holidays, almost like the government was hoping people were too busy hanging stockings by the fireplace to notice. Flooring politicians, lawyers and investigators all over the world, the U.S. Justice Department granted a total walk to executives of the British-based bank HSBC for the largest drug-and-terrorism money-laundering case ever. Yes, they issued a fine - $1.9 billion, or about five weeks' profit - but they didn't extract so much as one dollar or one day in jail from any individual, despite a decade of stupefying abuses.

For at least half a decade, the storied British colonial banking power helped to wash hundreds of millions of dollars for drug mobs, including Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel, suspected in tens of thousands of murders just in the past 10 years - people so totally evil, jokes former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, that "they make the guys on Wall Street look good." The bank also moved money for organizations linked to Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, and for Russian gangsters; helped countries like Iran, the Sudan and North Korea evade sanctions; and, in between helping murderers and terrorists and rogue states, aided countless common tax cheats in hiding their cash.

"They violated every goddamn law in the book," says Jack Blum, an attorney and former Senate investigator who headed a major bribery investigation against Lockheed in the 1970s that led to the passage of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. "They took every imaginable form of illegal and illicit business."

That nobody from the bank went to jail or paid a dollar in individual fines is nothing new in this era of financial crisis. What is different about this settlement is that the Justice Department, for the first time, admitted why it decided to go soft on this particular kind of criminal. It was worried that anything more than a wrist slap for HSBC might undermine the world economy. "Had the U.S. authorities decided to press criminal charges," said Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer at a press conference to announce the settlement, "HSBC would almost certainly have lost its banking license in the U.S., the future of the institution would have been under threat and the entire banking system would have been destabilized."


Thanks Obama "Justice" Department
2013-04-03 12:28:24 AM
1 votes:

jayhawk88: Racketeering. You're going to charge a bunch of teachers with racketeering for falsifying test scores, but not a single Wall Street investment banker is ever charged with any crime for their role in the meltdown. An entire international bank full of money launderers gets off with a fine paid for by THE VERY PROFITS THEY MADE FROM MONEY LAUNDERING, but teachers trying to game No Child Left Behind now have a bail bondsman.

My Farking God.


Stealing from the people vs. stealing from the government. Of course the government is outraged, they crossed the line. Government coffers are sacred, they stole that wealth fair and square.
2013-04-03 12:12:58 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: our society is saying drug use/abuse and money laundering is LESS a crime than this teacher scandal.


The fact that you have to explain this headline makes me sad.
2013-04-02 11:47:32 PM
1 votes:

Pumpernickel bread: The bankers can afford much better lawyers.


Because they stole enough money to pay for them.

Hence why we should be arresting their lawyers too.
2013-04-02 11:45:12 PM
1 votes:
Gotta keep up the demand for those prisons.
s24.postimg.org
Because
1. those with lack of critical thinking skills (rednecks, scared-cat conservatives) will vote for those "law'n'ordah" politicians, in spite of how they bankrupting the nation building all those prisons.
2. "Correction Services" are all about revenge and not actual correction.
2013-04-02 11:23:27 PM
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting. There is a concerted effort to destroy public education in this country and high-stakes testing is the justification. You'd shiat yourself if you saw how much of your tax money is going to private consulting firms and private tutoring companies that hire barely-literate tutors, instead of directly to the thousands of classrooms that need it.


Since we seem so keen on trying to replicate every other country in terms of healthcare... To the detriment of our own people.

Perhaps we should seem keen on trying to replicate every other country in terms of education... They're obviously doing something right.

And the teachers would be the first to scream "No!" if we tried by the way.
2013-04-02 11:17:55 PM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: DarwiOdrade: feckingmorons: Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they didn't launder money?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they are teachers and administrators?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because it was a conspiracy and they acted in concert so they are not individually responsible.

Their actions as alleged in the charging documents are illegal, unethical and done solely for personal gain - for bonuses, for promotions, for job security. They should be arrested and tried just like anyone else who is accused of committing a crime.

Nobody is suggesting any of those things, but it is nice to see you living up to your handle.

You seem like a simpleton.


How cute. Now run along and play while the adults talk.
2013-04-02 11:03:56 PM
1 votes:
Not News: Ambitious, overpaid, showboating local DA slurps up headlines going after beleaguered schoolteachers for what everyone SAID "No Child Left Behind" would lead to.
2013-04-02 10:56:10 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: violentsalvation: They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.

nobody disagrees that this was against the law.
nobody disagrees that the teacher(s) involved should be punished.

thing is...we let bankers walk on laundering a LOT of money for drug cartels.  see, it sets up a very weird standard for 'justice'.  we're throwing teachers in jail over setting up a test scam, but we let rich bankers walk after laundering a shiat f*ck ton of drug money.  in effect, our society is saying drug use/abuse and money laundering is LESS a crime than this teacher scandal.


Have you noticed that the 'Occupy Wallstreet' crowd who pushed for bankers to be punished have been more than marginalized for the past 6 years that Obama has been President? Where's the outrage? Where's the coverage?
2013-04-02 10:30:18 PM
1 votes:
Another fine group of union employees
2013-04-02 10:15:59 PM
1 votes:
Isn't money laundering a "victimless crime"

Surely more victimless than drug use where a junkie might kill someone and rob them for their next fix...and we don't want to punish drug users...right?.
2013-04-02 09:32:16 PM
1 votes:

Knucklepopper: johnryan51: Arrested yes, but 45yrs? Murderers get less than that. I agree that what they did was wrong. I'm surprised at the amount of time that lady is facing.

Where does it say 45 years?



From another article:

All 35 educators face racketeering charges. The maximum sentence could be 20 years in prison.
2013-04-02 09:25:57 PM
1 votes:
That same shiat happens in Norfolk, VA and nobody goes to jail.

/come to Virginia if you want to cheat
2013-04-02 09:19:23 PM
1 votes:

Warlordtrooper: Do you really believe that changing a few things on a piece of paper should get years in jail?


Depending on what, why, and how they changed, yes.
If found guilty.

Faking bank statements, faking police reports, faking building inspections....all just pieces of paper, right?
2013-04-02 09:18:52 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: violentsalvation: They shiat on the growing minds of countless children and denied them the education they needed, for money. They should rot in prison.

nobody disagrees that this was against the law.
nobody disagrees that the teacher(s) involved should be punished.

thing is...we let bankers walk on laundering a LOT of money for drug cartels.  see, it sets up a very weird standard for 'justice'.  we're throwing teachers in jail over setting up a test scam, but we let rich bankers walk after laundering a shiat f*ck ton of drug money.  in effect, our society is saying drug use/abuse and money laundering is LESS a crime than this teacher scandal.


Which is why I can't stand mandatory minimum sentencing. It's a travesty of justice.
2013-04-02 09:18:40 PM
1 votes:
A street kid gets arrested, gonna do some time
He got out three years from now just to commit more crime
A businessman is caught with 24 kilos
He's out on bail and out of jail
And that's the way it goes
Raah!

/not obscure.
2013-04-02 09:07:59 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: ecmoRandomNumbers:
I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting. There is a concerted effort to destroy public education in this country and high-stakes testing is the justification. You'd shiat yourself if you saw how much of your tax money is going to private consulting firms and private tutoring companies that hire barely-literate tutors, instead of directly to the thousands of classrooms that need it.

i'm hoping this is merely the result of GOP stupidity and misconceptions rather than a coordinated plan to make next generation voters stupid.


WAD. The public education system has always had a money laundering aspect. Its certainly more important than the teaching. No need to go imagining conspiracies.
2013-04-02 09:05:52 PM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they didn't launder money?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they are teachers and administrators?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because it was a conspiracy and they acted in concert so they are not individually responsible.

Their actions as alleged in the charging documents are illegal, unethical and done solely for personal gain - for bonuses, for promotions, for job security. They should be arrested and tried just like anyone else who is accused of committing a crime.


Do you really believe that changing a few things on a piece of paper should get years in jail?
2013-04-02 09:03:22 PM
1 votes:
"Excessive bail shall not be required..."
- 8th Amendment, United States Constitution
2013-04-02 08:56:55 PM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they didn't launder money?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they are teachers and administrators?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because it was a conspiracy and they acted in concert so they are not individually responsible.

Their actions as alleged in the charging documents are illegal, unethical and done solely for personal gain - for bonuses, for promotions, for job security. They should be arrested and tried just like anyone else who is accused of committing a crime.


Plus, well, they all look black to me.

Make their bail 30 million.
2013-04-02 08:56:42 PM
1 votes:

cman: I love these threads

These kind of threads brings out the most batshiat insane (like me) and the most paranoid conspiracy theorists.

This thread hasnt hit Alex Jones Conspiracy levels yet, but it will.


A simple rule for life is this: Cock up before conspiracy. People do not have the emotional memory, motivation, nor intellect to run decades long conspiracies. There are some examples (IBM, The Holy See, the Mafia, JFK) but normally our ability to see patterns overrules our ability to cut through bullshiat. Look at chemtrails or cloudships for a great example of people surrending to their brains ability to make stuff up.

So, cock-up before conspiracy. It explains everything, everytime.
2013-04-02 08:11:27 PM
1 votes:
ecmoRandomNumbers:
I taught in this system for 10 years and it's disgusting. There is a concerted effort to destroy public education in this country and high-stakes testing is the justification. You'd shiat yourself if you saw how much of your tax money is going to private consulting firms and private tutoring companies that hire barely-literate tutors, instead of directly to the thousands of classrooms that need it.

i'm hoping this is merely the result of GOP stupidity and misconceptions rather than a coordinated plan to make next generation voters stupid.
2013-04-02 07:53:49 PM
1 votes:

Earpj: She cost the district hundreds of thousands in federal aid, all while collecting her massive bonus'.

She screwed a ton of kids. Sure, not on the usual teacher way, but still...

What would a bank robber who took that much cash get?


A Vice President position.
2013-04-02 06:48:03 PM
1 votes:
She cost the district hundreds of thousands in federal aid, all while collecting her massive bonus'.

She screwed a ton of kids. Sure, not on the usual teacher way, but still...

What would a bank robber who took that much cash get?
2013-04-02 06:12:42 PM
1 votes:
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they didn't launder money?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because they are teachers and administrators?
Are you suggesting that those who are accused of breaking the law shouldn't be arrested simply because it was a conspiracy and they acted in concert so they are not individually responsible.

Their actions as alleged in the charging documents are illegal, unethical and done solely for personal gain - for bonuses, for promotions, for job security. They should be arrested and tried just like anyone else who is accused of committing a crime.
 
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