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(The Atlantic)   Don't like the movie we're showing on United Airlines? Here, let us make an emergency landing and escort you off the plane   (theatlantic.com) divider line 22
    More: Stupid, emergency landing, police escort, Alex Cross, need to know, Alaska Airlines, Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport  
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2013-04-02 04:04:28 PM
6 votes:
Airline is stupid for showing a PG-13 movie on a flight.

Drama queen stewardess probably blew the whole thing out of proportion to the Captain, probably told him the parents were upset and disruptive. Boo hoo.
2013-04-02 03:18:40 PM
6 votes:
The parents had a legitimate beef...and the Captain was a douchebag.
2013-04-02 03:35:41 PM
4 votes:
Going to side with the parents on this one.
2013-04-02 03:08:36 PM
3 votes:
wow, that captain was a total farking douchebag.
2013-04-02 03:43:50 PM
2 votes:
In summary, the captain was a dickhole.
2013-04-02 03:12:53 PM
2 votes:
fark, I don't know who to side with on this one. United and the pilot sound like douchebags, but then the parents sound whiny and obnoxious too. I think I hate everyone involved.
2013-04-02 02:47:38 PM
2 votes:
I was going to side with the pilot until I realized they were being subjected to Alex Cross.
2013-04-02 11:25:48 PM
1 votes:
flying gets worse every year.
2013-04-02 11:05:40 PM
1 votes:
mooo...
2013-04-02 07:03:48 PM
1 votes:
They showed a serial killer movie on an airplane?... way to put people in a festive mood

/did they serve complimentary Bloody Marys to go with it?
//and Virgin Bloody Marys for the kidlets?
///glad I wasn't on that flight
2013-04-02 05:53:54 PM
1 votes:
I would pay extra to fly on an airline that bans kids from flying
2013-04-02 05:46:19 PM
1 votes:
I'd be pissed that they landed and took off again for something seemingly not much of a security threat.  It's more dangerous and would have meant delays, missed connections, etc.

I really hope someone posts a follow-up to this story to see what really happened.

And I don't like anyone in this story: people who thought the movie was a good idea to show to all, whiny helicopter parents who made such a big deal, flight attendants who didn't do anything but tattle, and a captain who ordered that the plane be diverted.  Wow.
2013-04-02 05:24:49 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: It was a PG-13 movie and in theory the parents should have brought something to keep their kids focused for the flight (book, iPad, etc).  Just pass out your options to the kids, don't give them headphones, and discipline them if you catch them looking up and staring at the screen.  Given it was PG-13 it likely isn't wall to wall adult content, just a couple scenes.  I can kind of understand the FA refusing to put it up out of concern other passengers were simply keeping quiet due to fear of 'omg think of the children!'.   It makes me wonder if the mom did something else to earn a diversion and of course in hindsight is merely claiming her response was perfectly measured.


Airline versions of films are routinely edited to take out any "objectionable" content. These days they rate anything a PG-13 anyway, I haven't seen Alex Cross (and probably never will) but PG-13 has been watered down so much from the original intent, which was for movies >thisclose< to being rated R but weren't. Look at the PG-13 films from when it started in the mid-80s and compare them to today. Same with the PG rating: movies that should be rated G like Kung Fu Panda get a PG now. Ridiculous.
2013-04-02 04:12:19 PM
1 votes:
Tough call. The beef is well written and seems reasonable, but this is all after the fact and only showcases the parents' point of view. When the reactions of others are mentioned, they are conveyed through said parents, thereby being subjective at best and manipulated at worst.

That the captain risked being written up for needlessly diverting his flight on a security risk that didn't exist seems unlikely. Being vindictive is one thing, but one would have to be seriously disgruntled to pull this after a simple, 'calm' verbal complaint from a couple. My money is on the parents being more 'agitated' than they let on. They even said that some of the FAs 'timed out' when the authorities got there. Why would they do that if they had dealt with pleasant, even-tempered people up until that point?
2013-04-02 04:12:00 PM
1 votes:

Ambivalence: They are not going to spend that kind of dough just because people are pouty about the movie


That assumes the pilot is concerned about the bottom line, or would face discipline for making the "judgement call" about it.
2013-04-02 04:11:31 PM
1 votes:
Captains have 100% discretion as to whether or not they think somebody is a security risk.  They can kick anybody off a plane if they feel like, and they can't be disciplined or fired for doing so.  This has resulted in the following pattern happening at least a dozen times since 9/11:

1. An airplane captain kicks some muslims off an airplane mainly for being muslim.
2. The muslims sue the airline.
3. The muslims win a couple million bucks.
4. The captain is not disciplined at all.
5. Go to step 1.

Of course, being a parent of a couple kids who don't want them to see an R Rated movie is not a constitutionally protected class, so the people involved in this particular incident won't have this type of recourse.
2013-04-02 04:09:14 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.

Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.


Again, TFA says they asked the flight attendant (there's the problem, but it's understandable). The screen looked like it folded up, but she wouldn't go for it.
2013-04-02 04:06:30 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.


You clearly don't fly on sufficiently crappy planes. There are still plenty up there with the setup described in TFA - a dozen or so ceiling-mounted screens spaced around the cabin, all hooked up to the same VCR.
2013-04-02 04:06:27 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, the captain was an asshole. I guess they're not friendly skies anymore. Now if anything gets the captain's panties in a wad, he won't think twice about diverting a flight. No wonder the airlines have so much trouble making money.
2013-04-02 04:05:30 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.  You'll still get audio out of the jack on some planes, but of course if you don't let your kids plug anything in that can't happen.  I've been on multiple A320s and that has always been the case.  Flight attendants also know this and will help people turn them off on red eyes when they darken the cabin.

/the annoying part is after takeoff when they reset the system/end their free TV preview you have to turn it off again because by default they boot up as "all on"


You know how I know you didn't read the article? THESE AREN'T INDIVIDUAL TV SCREENS.
2013-04-02 04:03:54 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.


TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.
2013-04-02 03:41:13 PM
1 votes:

slayer199: The parents had a legitimate beef...and the Captain was a douchebag.


Of course you have to take this with a grain of salt, but assuming the parents really did remain calm and reasonable, the captain went over the line.

I wouldn't be surprised if the diversion resulted from the parents turning into screeching hysterical banshees.
 
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