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(The Atlantic)   Don't like the movie we're showing on United Airlines? Here, let us make an emergency landing and escort you off the plane   (theatlantic.com) divider line 124
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2013-04-02 02:43:05 PM
Between these whiners and the vegan couple wanting to cook their own pasta at the restaurant, I farking really hate people.
 
2013-04-02 02:47:38 PM
I was going to side with the pilot until I realized they were being subjected to Alex Cross.
 
2013-04-02 02:55:29 PM

Sybarite: I was going to side with the pilot until I realized they were being subjected to Alex Cross.


Yeah, that's a really tough call.
 
2013-04-02 03:01:03 PM

Sybarite: I was going to side with the pilot until I realized they were being subjected to Alex Cross.


Isn't that a Madea movie without Madea?
 
2013-04-02 03:08:36 PM
wow, that captain was a total farking douchebag.
 
2013-04-02 03:12:53 PM
fark, I don't know who to side with on this one. United and the pilot sound like douchebags, but then the parents sound whiny and obnoxious too. I think I hate everyone involved.
 
2013-04-02 03:18:40 PM
The parents had a legitimate beef...and the Captain was a douchebag.
 
2013-04-02 03:35:41 PM
Going to side with the parents on this one.
 
2013-04-02 03:39:50 PM
I am siding with authority on this one because, when is it ever a bad idea to side with authority?  That husband should have told his wife to keep her slore mouth shut and read to the kids from the Bible.
 
2013-04-02 03:41:13 PM

slayer199: The parents had a legitimate beef...and the Captain was a douchebag.


Of course you have to take this with a grain of salt, but assuming the parents really did remain calm and reasonable, the captain went over the line.

I wouldn't be surprised if the diversion resulted from the parents turning into screeching hysterical banshees.
 
2013-04-02 03:43:50 PM
In summary, the captain was a dickhole.
 
2013-04-02 03:44:36 PM
You think that's bad?  I had to suffer through "Jingle All the Way" on a flight from Phoenix to Orlando.
 
2013-04-02 03:45:01 PM
In all honesty, they could've offered a better film for everyone to watch.

/trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?
 
2013-04-02 03:46:26 PM

Paris1127: /trivia question: Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?


Braniff?
 
2013-04-02 03:46:57 PM
At least it wasn't 'Gigli'. I'd demand my flight be free.
 
2013-04-02 03:51:53 PM

gopher321: At least it wasn't 'Gigli'. I'd demand my flight be free go into a spiraling nose-dive into crocodile-infested waters.

 
2013-04-02 03:54:37 PM

Paris1127: /trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?


Trans American Airlines.
 
2013-04-02 03:55:04 PM

Paris1127: In all honesty, they could've offered a better film for everyone to watch.

/trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?


AeroMexico
 
2013-04-02 03:56:27 PM
tl;dr
 
2013-04-02 03:56:54 PM

The_Sponge: You think that's bad?  I had to suffer through "Jingle All the Way" on a flight from Phoenix to Orlando.


But at least you got out of Phoenix.
 
2013-04-02 03:57:36 PM

vernonFL: Between these whiners and the vegan couple wanting to cook their own pasta at the restaurant, I farking really hate people.


^this...but I already hate people.
 
2013-04-02 04:00:48 PM
I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.  You'll still get audio out of the jack on some planes, but of course if you don't let your kids plug anything in that can't happen.  I've been on multiple A320s and that has always been the case.  Flight attendants also know this and will help people turn them off on red eyes when they darken the cabin.

/the annoying part is after takeoff when they reset the system/end their free TV preview you have to turn it off again because by default they boot up as "all on"
 
2013-04-02 04:02:37 PM

gilgigamesh: slayer199: The parents had a legitimate beef...and the Captain was a douchebag.

Of course you have to take this with a grain of salt, but assuming the parents really did remain calm and reasonable, the captain went over the line.

I wouldn't be surprised if the diversion resulted from the parents turning into screeching hysterical banshees.


I would lay money on the hysterical banshees scenario.
 
2013-04-02 04:02:41 PM
If this happened exactly as described by these parents, this is pilot is a total cockbag.

But I'd bet everything I own in the world that this isn't how it happened.

On February 2, 2013 we travelled with our two young boys (4 and 8 years old)...had to linger in the terminal for hours with our exhausted and terrified little boys

I'd also bet everything in the world that these two boys are named Elliot and Bastian. Or Henry and Tarquin.
 
2013-04-02 04:03:54 PM

ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.


TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.
 
2013-04-02 04:04:28 PM
Airline is stupid for showing a PG-13 movie on a flight.

Drama queen stewardess probably blew the whole thing out of proportion to the Captain, probably told him the parents were upset and disruptive. Boo hoo.
 
2013-04-02 04:05:30 PM

ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.  You'll still get audio out of the jack on some planes, but of course if you don't let your kids plug anything in that can't happen.  I've been on multiple A320s and that has always been the case.  Flight attendants also know this and will help people turn them off on red eyes when they darken the cabin.

/the annoying part is after takeoff when they reset the system/end their free TV preview you have to turn it off again because by default they boot up as "all on"


You know how I know you didn't read the article? THESE AREN'T INDIVIDUAL TV SCREENS.
 
2013-04-02 04:06:27 PM
Yeah, the captain was an asshole. I guess they're not friendly skies anymore. Now if anything gets the captain's panties in a wad, he won't think twice about diverting a flight. No wonder the airlines have so much trouble making money.
 
2013-04-02 04:06:29 PM
And they still break guitars

(damn song, stuck in my head)
 
2013-04-02 04:06:30 PM

ha-ha-guy: On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.


You clearly don't fly on sufficiently crappy planes. There are still plenty up there with the setup described in TFA - a dozen or so ceiling-mounted screens spaced around the cabin, all hooked up to the same VCR.
 
2013-04-02 04:06:57 PM

akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.


Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.
 
2013-04-02 04:08:36 PM

Ambitwistor: Trans American Airlines.


An excellent answer, but not what I was looking for...

12349876: Paris1127: In all honesty, they could've offered a better film for everyone to watch.

/trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?

AeroMexico


Very good. Now did you know that, or did you just Google it?
 
2013-04-02 04:08:57 PM
"One more complaint and I am going to fly this plane right into the side of a mountain!"

/thanks for flying United
 
2013-04-02 04:09:01 PM
Was it a movie about gladiators?
 
2013-04-02 04:09:14 PM

ha-ha-guy: akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.

Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.


Again, TFA says they asked the flight attendant (there's the problem, but it's understandable). The screen looked like it folded up, but she wouldn't go for it.
 
2013-04-02 04:09:51 PM

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Airline is stupid for showing a PG-13 movie on a flight.

Drama queen stewardess probably blew the whole thing out of proportion to the Captain, probably told him the parents were upset and disruptive. Boo hoo.


dingdingding i think we have a winnah!
 
2013-04-02 04:09:51 PM
Pilots do not divert flights for rational disagreements, only for medical emergencies, mechanical malfuntions inflight or security threats so either someone was having a heart attack (completely unrelated to the Whiney couple), the "check engine" light came on, or this couple was being hostile and/or making threats.

It costs an airline money to make an emergency landing. They are not going to spend that kind of dough just because people are pouty about the movie.
 
2013-04-02 04:11:29 PM

akula: ha-ha-guy: akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.

Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.

Again, TFA says they asked the flight attendant (there's the problem, but it's understandable). The screen looked like it folded up, but she wouldn't go for it.


The screen is no doubt locked up for take offs and landings.
 
2013-04-02 04:11:31 PM
Captains have 100% discretion as to whether or not they think somebody is a security risk.  They can kick anybody off a plane if they feel like, and they can't be disciplined or fired for doing so.  This has resulted in the following pattern happening at least a dozen times since 9/11:

1. An airplane captain kicks some muslims off an airplane mainly for being muslim.
2. The muslims sue the airline.
3. The muslims win a couple million bucks.
4. The captain is not disciplined at all.
5. Go to step 1.

Of course, being a parent of a couple kids who don't want them to see an R Rated movie is not a constitutionally protected class, so the people involved in this particular incident won't have this type of recourse.
 
2013-04-02 04:11:50 PM
Are these people trying to say that it was not appropriate for me to watch Total Recall with my 3 year old?
 
2013-04-02 04:12:00 PM

Ambivalence: They are not going to spend that kind of dough just because people are pouty about the movie


That assumes the pilot is concerned about the bottom line, or would face discipline for making the "judgement call" about it.
 
2013-04-02 04:12:00 PM

Paris1127: Ambitwistor: Trans American Airlines.

An excellent answer, but not what I was looking for...

12349876: Paris1127: In all honesty, they could've offered a better film for everyone to watch.

/trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?

AeroMexico

Very good. Now did you know that, or did you just Google it?


DVD Commentary
 
2013-04-02 04:12:06 PM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-02 04:12:09 PM

ha-ha-guy: akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.

Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.


IIRC, they won't fold up individually without modification (IE - disabled by ground crew). And as someone who flies round trip at least once a week; I can empathize with the parents, but they should STFU and cope (grounding the plane notwithstanding).
 
2013-04-02 04:12:18 PM

ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way. ..."


FTFA: On our plane, an A320, the movie was projected on drop-down screens above the seats.

Although it would be cool if you could dial the brightness up and down on the overhead screens. And by "you," I mean "everyone at the same time."
 
2013-04-02 04:12:19 PM
Tough call. The beef is well written and seems reasonable, but this is all after the fact and only showcases the parents' point of view. When the reactions of others are mentioned, they are conveyed through said parents, thereby being subjective at best and manipulated at worst.

That the captain risked being written up for needlessly diverting his flight on a security risk that didn't exist seems unlikely. Being vindictive is one thing, but one would have to be seriously disgruntled to pull this after a simple, 'calm' verbal complaint from a couple. My money is on the parents being more 'agitated' than they let on. They even said that some of the FAs 'timed out' when the authorities got there. Why would they do that if they had dealt with pleasant, even-tempered people up until that point?
 
2013-04-02 04:13:32 PM

mcreadyblue: akula: ha-ha-guy: akula: ha-ha-guy: I find myself calling bullshiat on the movie theme one.  On every flight I've ever been on you can turn the screen off by turning the brightness down all the way.

TFA says it was the fold down screens up above the seats, not ones in the seatbacks (and therefore tweakable by the people themselves). I've not been on an A320 so I can't vouch for how any of them are, but if it was screens up above, then they do have a point.

Those just fold up though, so even easier, unless someone else in that row wanted to watch the movie.  I've pushed them up before on long flights without any problem.  Of course I don't ask the flight attendant, I just ask the other passengers, wait for the FAs to be elsewhere, and fold it up.

Again, TFA says they asked the flight attendant (there's the problem, but it's understandable). The screen looked like it folded up, but she wouldn't go for it.

The screen is no doubt locked up for take offs and landings.


I don't think the FAs actually can pop individual screens up or down, I bet they just have an all up or all down switch.  I just pop mine by hand since on some Chinese airlines they use them to show ads for the entire flight, which are farking annoying since they flicker away at the edge of your vision when you read the paper.

/I likely also get away with it since no Chinese FA wants to confront the white dude
 
2013-04-02 04:14:15 PM

12349876: Paris1127: Ambitwistor: Trans American Airlines.

An excellent answer, but not what I was looking for...

12349876: Paris1127: In all honesty, they could've offered a better film for everyone to watch.

/trivia question:  Airplane was offered as the in-flight movie on only one airline. What airline was it?

AeroMexico

Very good. Now did you know that, or did you just Google it?

DVD Commentary


Ah, OK. Well done then.
 
2013-04-02 04:14:17 PM
Hmm, we're only getting one side of a two-sided dispute.

Let's

nocountryfornewnashville.com
To

djdiddywah.com,

Shall we?
 
2013-04-02 04:17:00 PM
More reason to have children sections. I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I have no choice but to let my kid see some of the crap that Hollywood puts out, then have to explain the context of gratuitous violence to a 2 year old who's having a nightmare that night. I don't know if I feel so strongly that I'd want my flight diverted. I would just try to keep her distracted.
 
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