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2013-04-02 02:13:46 PM  
4 votes:
A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob
2013-04-02 05:32:41 PM  
3 votes:
32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!
2013-04-02 08:11:04 PM  
2 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


The entire internet is a deep dark bowel.  Legitimate websites get compromised all the time, it is a smart decision to stop your browser from executing client-side scripting and/or creating unknown Java connections to remote servers at random.
2013-04-02 06:58:17 PM  
2 votes:
I know FF gets a lot of hate around these parts, but it runs great on Windows 8.

/love FF
//love Windows 8
2013-04-02 05:34:54 PM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-04-02 03:54:01 PM  
2 votes:

bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?


It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]
2013-04-02 02:09:56 PM  
2 votes:
img.photobucket.com
2013-04-02 01:57:08 PM  
2 votes:
I'd be happier if FF didn't let flash run wild.
2013-04-02 01:54:55 PM  
2 votes:
Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.


You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?
2013-04-03 11:50:07 AM  
1 votes:
The Voice of Doom: [trimmed]

- I agree that many developers need to work on testing what works/doesn't work.

- I also agree that ajax requests to 30 different places is ridiculous as well. 
   - I typically do Web Application development so I'm doing a bunch of minor PHP/MySQL functions and want a responsive GUI

- The real problem here are content providers. News companies in particular do this a lot and while I get why (attribution for copyright holders mainly). The fracturing of the content as well as not all providers being equal in capabilities (e.g. bandwidth) is a huge problem.

- Eh. SO tends to recommend jquery in a lot of situations and in some cases jQ plugins (like LiveQuery). Depends on what you are looking for.

- I don't get that with CSS either. CSS should already be configured before hand. But I do build dialogs and tables dynamically fairly frequently
  - Occassionally I'll use .toggleClass()/.toggle() or even add/remove class but this is usually for specific highlighting sometimes from deleting from the DOM

- Security CAN be an issue, but most of this is resolved by doing POSTs over GETs. As for responses, if they are 'echoed' that way then sure, but this can be resolved by encoding the 'at-risk' response with an MD5 or Base64 or some kind of obfuscation.
2013-04-03 05:13:07 AM  
1 votes:
People complaining about Firefox's bloat don't seem to understand it isn't bloated, it's just fully customizable with capabilities the others don't have. Learn how to use it and decide what you want and don't and it's the best thing out there by far.
2013-04-03 01:14:56 AM  
1 votes:

phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


Right now, on this webpage, I'm using noscript to block three sites I don't recognize, don't trust, and know for a fact are not necessary to browse this site.

Additionally, my ghostery is blocking 7 known identity trackers, and my ad-block is killing a slew of other third-party scripts.  And this is all just on Fark, a site I've been coming to for nearly a decade, run by a group of people that I would personally trust with my actual wallet.
2013-04-03 12:55:25 AM  
1 votes:
I tried Chrome.  Discovered that despite what the fanboys keep saying, it still tracks way more user data than Firefox, since Firefox allows a lot more custom privacy adjustments.  Went straight back to Firefox and have never looked back.
2013-04-03 12:32:17 AM  
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Once you're through the looking glass, it's really hard to give a fark about memory usage.


I brought a job to a site last week, big complicated device that was controlled by a tiny W7 embedded computer.  At the last minute, I thought to grab a crappy old 19" LCD just in case they didn't have a convenient monitor to test it with.  Good thing i did, everything they had were frickin CRTs!!!  They were all oohiing and ahhhing over my busted out monitor* and not the $5000 worth of slick optics and shiat I'd put together.  Crazy world.

Anyway, I agree with you but there are apparently tons of people whose work computers completely suck ass and they probably need a slim browser to log onto their company's 16-bit color geocities site to update their timecards or whatnot.

* this thing has had smoke coming out of it but somehow trudges on, I treat it like it's one step from the trashpile
2013-04-02 11:35:30 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


It can save explanation time when you are browsing along side someone and you type "F" in the URL bar, and FireFox suggests you may be trying to go back to "FurryAndDwarfYaoi.com"
2013-04-02 11:27:11 PM  
1 votes:
Every time there's a FF hate thread, I post the same thing:

If you're too stupid to work about:config, you only deserve IE.
2013-04-02 11:03:57 PM  
1 votes:
Who needs Firefox? I get a web browser free with my AOL subscription.
2013-04-02 10:55:43 PM  
1 votes:

phimuskapsi: If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


Call me paranoid if you want, but I have a serious problem with allowing every tom.com, dick.net, and harry.org unilateral access to execute code on my computer.  I'm sure 99% of the time I'm just being overly cautious.  But malicious code can and is distributed through ads or other malicious scripts.

Same kind of thing with cookies.  I have a serious problem with some of the data websites want to store on my computer.  Not to mention the various scandals about irremovable cookies...

I'd rather take the approach of just allowing scripts and cookies on the very few sites that I actually trust.

meyerkev: If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother. If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine. If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.


Totally agree, dude.
2013-04-02 10:43:32 PM  
1 votes:

phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


In response, can I just say:

If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother.  If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine.  If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.

/Currently running adblock plus flashblock.
2013-04-02 10:29:23 PM  
1 votes:

phimuskapsi: . If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies


especially since you can turn off accepting cookies from the options in a browser itself.
2013-04-02 10:28:43 PM  
1 votes:

GameSprocket: /Obscure?


Not even close to obscure
2013-04-02 09:09:42 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.

Your kids?


I read Easyrider magazine at age 8.  Tits aren't going to hurt a preteen boy.  I'd rather them know where the good porn is that won't give the computer a disease than risk them going out and finding bad porn.

Start your kids with domai so they know what the broads they're going be farking look like
2013-04-02 07:28:51 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


Because I don't want cookies and malware tracking me across the internet and phoning home.

personally I use Chrome with- Ad Block Plus, Flash Block, and Ghostery. I refuse to be a black hole where ad companies can dump more and more stuff onto my computer and harvest it.
2013-04-02 07:09:27 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.


But your 640K and a 256 Hz CPU brain won't get you there Sparky....just saying.

/more snerk
2013-04-02 07:03:36 PM  
1 votes:
Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.
2013-04-02 06:33:43 PM  
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: What is this Innertubes Explorer everyone speaks of?


Its the tool you use to download Firefox.
2013-04-02 06:05:50 PM  
1 votes:
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware.  I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error:  400 Bad Request."  Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

Tried clearing FF's cache, no joy.  My ISP has no clue.  Neither do I.
2013-04-02 05:28:53 PM  
1 votes:

Jekylman: No joke, I started using Chrome because it was more compatible with my company's SharePoint intranet than either IE or FF. Why 64-bit IE didn't work with SharePoint is anyone's guess.


Sharepoint blowing would be my guess.
2013-04-02 05:14:39 PM  
1 votes:
yes Firefox can be a memory hog but it has the best addons
I used adblock, https anywhere, ghostry and a bunch of other addons

If you learn how to edit about:config you can fix some of the memory issues

If you are going to run Chrome I suggest Chromium or SRW Iron, one of the versions that doesn't phone home
2013-04-02 05:12:26 PM  
1 votes:
I keep hearing how Firefox uses more resources than Chrome, that hasn't been true for a while and if any browser is getting bloated it is Chrome.  For me Firefox simply does things that Chrome can't.

Plus why does anyone care about efficiency anyway, I have RAM coming out of my ears, Windows knows how to manage it.
2013-04-02 04:06:11 PM  
1 votes:

hawcian: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

Those add-ons are available for Chrome.


Yes, but does Chrome have "Self-Destructing Cookies" like FireFox? That's the feature that made me switch back to FF being my default browser.
2013-04-02 03:58:20 PM  
1 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


I use ghostery and adblock. I have but don't run noscript because websites frustrate me without scripts. I shall look into the others. Also chrome is run by google who is slowly becoming an enemy of the people, orienting towards profit rather than innovation.

/the reader defunctness finally forces me away from google because that was the only thing tying me to using any of their services.
2013-04-02 03:50:08 PM  
1 votes:
Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?
2013-04-02 03:46:25 PM  
1 votes:

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


Be careful with the add-ons for Chrome.  You can quickly bloat it to the point that it crashes your computer.
2013-04-02 02:14:03 PM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.

You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?


FF is now catching up to IE and Chrome. Thats a sure strategy for market domination if I ever saw one.
2013-04-02 02:07:53 PM  
1 votes:
unyon: ...flash run wild

That would be a great name for one of those spring break videos you can buy on late night TV.
 
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