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2013-04-02 05:14:39 PM  
yes Firefox can be a memory hog but it has the best addons
I used adblock, https anywhere, ghostry and a bunch of other addons

If you learn how to edit about:config you can fix some of the memory issues

If you are going to run Chrome I suggest Chromium or SRW Iron, one of the versions that doesn't phone home
 
2013-04-02 05:24:11 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.


Yeah, I've been playing with it.

I also found that you can do this:

firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Personal"
to open your profile named Personal

and then
firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Business"
to open the Business profile in a separate window.

I did not know about the -no-remote flag, and I don't know how new it is. Previously, if you already had Firefox running, it would just open another window in the same profile.

So, not as clean as what Chrome does... chrome uses the little cartoon icons with a dropdown for different profiles. But this might be good enough for me.
 
2013-04-02 05:27:40 PM  
No joke, I started using Chrome because it was more compatible with my company's SharePoint intranet than either IE or FF. Why 64-bit IE didn't work with SharePoint is anyone's guess.
 
2013-04-02 05:28:46 PM  

neuroflare: www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


Thank you
 
2013-04-02 05:28:53 PM  

Jekylman: No joke, I started using Chrome because it was more compatible with my company's SharePoint intranet than either IE or FF. Why 64-bit IE didn't work with SharePoint is anyone's guess.


Sharepoint blowing would be my guess.
 
2013-04-02 05:29:17 PM  

jonny_q: HeartBurnKid: Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.

Yeah, I've been playing with it.

I also found that you can do this:

firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Personal"
to open your profile named Personal

and then
firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Business"
to open the Business profile in a separate window.

I did not know about the -no-remote flag, and I don't know how new it is. Previously, if you already had Firefox running, it would just open another window in the same profile.

So, not as clean as what Chrome does... chrome uses the little cartoon icons with a dropdown for different profiles. But this might be good enough for me.


Actually, the no-remote flag has been in for ages.  I used to use it to open a separate Firefox process to watch videos, before Firefox started dropping plugins into a separate process anyway.
 
2013-04-02 05:32:41 PM  
32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!
 
2013-04-02 05:34:54 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-02 05:41:59 PM  

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


^ THIS. This is awesome. Back in the day you had to go and keep adding CSS rules to add borders to elements in order to figure out where the hell they were on the page. Not anymore.
 
2013-04-02 05:46:20 PM  

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


Whats that?
 
2013-04-02 05:55:35 PM  

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


Holy fark!  That's awesome.  Not sure if it's completely useful, but I imagine the visualization makes things quicker to spot.
 
2013-04-02 06:03:50 PM  

blue_2501: fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]

Holy fark!  That's awesome.  Not sure if it's completely useful, but I imagine the visualization makes things quicker to spot.


Seconded, what plugin is that? It does look more "on the spot" than the web developer toolbar with element outlines enabled..
 
2013-04-02 06:03:53 PM  
Firefox with ad/script block for pron, Chrome for everything else.  What is this Innertubes Explorer everyone speaks of?

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


And I approve of this post^^^^.
 
2013-04-02 06:05:50 PM  
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware.  I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error:  400 Bad Request."  Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

Tried clearing FF's cache, no joy.  My ISP has no clue.  Neither do I.
 
2013-04-02 06:07:03 PM  

IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!


"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.
 
2013-04-02 06:12:14 PM  
Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.
 
2013-04-02 06:20:50 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.


Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?
 
2013-04-02 06:22:57 PM  

IntertubeUser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.

Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?


It was just snerk.  Don't blow your panties off. I am testing this wondermous new cheese as we speak.
 
2013-04-02 06:25:08 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.


If you can't Skype with a browser window open, you are either using a poorly coded extension, haven't updated FF in a good while, or there is something wrong with your computer.
 
2013-04-02 06:33:43 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: What is this Innertubes Explorer everyone speaks of?


Its the tool you use to download Firefox.
 
2013-04-02 06:41:44 PM  
Google would just add the pre-checked chrome option to more freeware. What's funny is people are not complaining like they did with bonzi buddy, real player, and how Apple tried to jam Safari down your throat with Quicktime updates
 
2013-04-02 06:44:36 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.


Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG
 
2013-04-02 06:49:02 PM  

stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG


Don't worry, smeggy is still upset about that 40 year old virgin story from the weekend being a fake.

...forever alone...
 
2013-04-02 06:49:08 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.

Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?

It was just snerk.  Don't blow your panties off. I am testing this wondermous new cheese as we speak.


Well, the 64 bit is nice.  Retrieval from cache is considerably faster.  The GUI is of course familiar.  I am still gonna keep two browsers, one for late night study *cough*, and Chrome for the daily nerdiness.
Two caches, two different profiles/security/cookies management etc.....brain is wired that way, not to trust one app for my behavioural problems.
 
2013-04-02 06:58:17 PM  
I know FF gets a lot of hate around these parts, but it runs great on Windows 8.

/love FF
//love Windows 8
 
2013-04-02 07:03:04 PM  

Faddy: I keep hearing how Firefox uses more resources than Chrome, that hasn't been true for a while and if any browser is getting bloated it is Chrome.  For me Firefox simply does things that Chrome can't.

Plus why does anyone care about efficiency anyway, I have RAM coming out of my ears, Windows knows how to manage it.


My firefox.exe process used to go up to 3 gigs.  It sorta sucked when that happened because it would get really slow.

But those problems are long gone.  Now it's just other little annoyances.
 
2013-04-02 07:03:27 PM  

stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG


Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.
 
2013-04-02 07:03:36 PM  
Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.
 
2013-04-02 07:09:27 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.


But your 640K and a 256 Hz CPU brain won't get you there Sparky....just saying.

/more snerk
 
2013-04-02 07:15:55 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.

But your 640K and a 256 Hz CPU brain won't get you there Sparky....just saying.

/more snerk


Thank you for being so generous with my specs.
 
2013-04-02 07:17:36 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.


Oh what, you need your rinky-dink router to convert the internet into dainty digital data packet frames for you?  I stab the fiber strains directly into my eye, the way lord Babbage intended.
 
2013-04-02 07:24:22 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


It's all about figuring out what scripts are necessary for sites to run, and enabling those. The three I allow on this domain are Fark, Google, and Google-analytics. Everything is blocked and Fark works fine and dandy.

I figure, why run more than I need to. I also may or may not use certain acquisition programs popular around hypothetical bays of pirates, and stopping tracking cookies is a good thing.
 
2013-04-02 07:28:51 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


Because I don't want cookies and malware tracking me across the internet and phoning home.

personally I use Chrome with- Ad Block Plus, Flash Block, and Ghostery. I refuse to be a black hole where ad companies can dump more and more stuff onto my computer and harvest it.
 
2013-04-02 07:30:51 PM  
You luddites

I use my own custom browser that I wrote from scratch and I don't offer it to anyone except myself and my very very close personal friends who also act as beta testers but even though nobody has ever found a bug I issue a new release every other day. I'm up to v47.9.1.420 as of yesterday.
 
2013-04-02 07:34:06 PM  
Browsers? What do you need that for? Just telnet into the webserver and type all the HTTP headers yourself.

Bunch of lazy bums in here.
 
2013-04-02 07:36:57 PM  

unyon: I'd be happier if FF didn't let flash run wild.


Flash is designed with two powerful features not found in other languages- portability and security!
 
2013-04-02 07:45:07 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


Your kids?
 
2013-04-02 07:54:13 PM  
For any other FF people, check out Collusion.

dtdstudios.com
 
2013-04-02 07:54:38 PM  
Had to switch back to FF from Chrome since Chrome keeps crashing scripts that FF will run.
Sure, Chrome is marginally faster at some things and uses a bit less RAM but I have a processor that runs 8 threads and 32gb of RAM. I'm not worried about resources, I want a browser that actually does the farking job even if that means it taps out 4 cores and 16GB of RAM under load- that still leaves me plenty of power to do other things with.
 
2013-04-02 08:11:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


The entire internet is a deep dark bowel.  Legitimate websites get compromised all the time, it is a smart decision to stop your browser from executing client-side scripting and/or creating unknown Java connections to remote servers at random.
 
2013-04-02 08:13:26 PM  

Ed Finnerty: For any other FF people, check out Collusion.

[dtdstudios.com image 850x627]


WOW, that does look like an awesome tool for snooping on the snoops!

Wish someone would make a thesis or dissertation project based on this capability.  Would be a great read, I'm sure.
 
2013-04-02 08:20:28 PM  
For those complaining about FF's "Private Browsing" deficiencies:

<A HREF="http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/02/2241249/firefox-20-arri ves-wit h-per-window-private-browsing-new-download-manager">Firefox 20 Arrives with Per-Window Private Browsing...</a>
 
2013-04-02 08:24:05 PM  

veive: Had to switch back to FF from Chrome since Chrome keeps crashing scripts that FF will run.
Sure, Chrome is marginally faster at some things and uses a bit less RAM but I have a processor that runs 8 threads and 32gb of RAM. I'm not worried about resources, I want a browser that actually does the farking job even if that means it taps out 4 cores and 16GB of RAM under load- that still leaves me plenty of power to do other things with.


What scripts that Chrome crashes on that FF doesn't?
 
2013-04-02 08:26:27 PM  
Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?
 
2013-04-02 08:45:53 PM  

lostcat: Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?


The correct PC term is mastursurfing.
 
2013-04-02 08:47:31 PM  
Version 23 of Nightly scores higher on the HTML5 test 419 vs 379 of FF20
 
2013-04-02 08:48:47 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: lostcat: Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?

The correct PC term is mastursurfing.


aka Pleasure Surfing
 
2013-04-02 08:52:58 PM  

neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well


Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!
 
2013-04-02 08:54:41 PM  
BarkingUnicorn
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware. I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error: 400 Bad Request." Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

All foxnews URLs? Or just some?
Do you have an example?

It should be pretty simple to figure out by comparing at the request headers.
 
2013-04-02 09:09:42 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.

Your kids?


I read Easyrider magazine at age 8.  Tits aren't going to hurt a preteen boy.  I'd rather them know where the good porn is that won't give the computer a disease than risk them going out and finding bad porn.

Start your kids with domai so they know what the broads they're going be farking look like
 
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