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2013-04-02 01:53:22 PM
Oh yeah and Lycos is going to crush Google soon too... Yeah buddy!
 
2013-04-02 01:54:55 PM
Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.


You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?
 
2013-04-02 01:57:08 PM
I'd be happier if FF didn't let flash run wild.
 
2013-04-02 02:07:53 PM
unyon: ...flash run wild

That would be a great name for one of those spring break videos you can buy on late night TV.
 
2013-04-02 02:09:56 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-02 02:12:41 PM
Good thing you didn't use the News Flash tag subby or else it would have froze up for 5 minutes.
 
2013-04-02 02:12:53 PM
HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.
 
2013-04-02 02:13:46 PM
A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob
 
2013-04-02 02:14:03 PM

Nadie_AZ: Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.

You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?


FF is now catching up to IE and Chrome. Thats a sure strategy for market domination if I ever saw one.
 
2013-04-02 02:20:12 PM
I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.

Opera is supposed to move to a webkit backend in the near future, so that should hopefully solve the random compatibility issues.
 
2013-04-02 02:27:14 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.


Weird, I haven't had that issue.
 
2013-04-02 02:28:20 PM

costermonger: TuteTibiImperes: I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.

Weird, I haven't had that issue.


Most are fine, but every now and again I get a message that my browser doesn't support some random HTML5 video format, even though I'm using the latest version.
 
2013-04-02 02:54:40 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Most are fine, but every now and again I get a message that my browser doesn't support some random HTML5 video format, even though I'm using the latest version.


Shiatty. I've been using it forever, and I think the random incompatibilities are a lot less common than they once were. Chrome acts as a good fill-in for the few things that don't work entirely the way they're supposed to.
 
2013-04-02 03:06:12 PM
Firefox is so 2005.
 
2013-04-02 03:30:19 PM
Are there any other browsers that have vertical tabs? No? Well then fark 'em.
 
2013-04-02 03:36:59 PM
I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.
 
2013-04-02 03:45:38 PM
Haven't seen a reason tow switch from Mosaic
 
2013-04-02 03:46:01 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?
 
2013-04-02 03:46:25 PM

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


Be careful with the add-ons for Chrome.  You can quickly bloat it to the point that it crashes your computer.
 
2013-04-02 03:47:27 PM

Mentalpatient87: I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.


Firefox has some cartoonishly massive memory leaks, and every time they close one they open another.  If all you're doing is browsing and you're not running anything else at the same time, it's usually fine.

I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.
 
2013-04-02 03:48:42 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


Those add-ons are available for Chrome.
 
2013-04-02 03:49:20 PM
I will switch back to Firefox when I can have multiple profiles as easily as I can in Chrome.

I keep work stuff (separate gmail account) open in one profile and personal stuff in another.

Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window. So, that's not even a good enough solution for having a second login to the same site to do things.
 
2013-04-02 03:50:08 PM
Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?
 
2013-04-02 03:54:01 PM

bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?


It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]
 
2013-04-02 03:55:45 PM

jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.


Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?
 
2013-04-02 03:58:20 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


I use ghostery and adblock. I have but don't run noscript because websites frustrate me without scripts. I shall look into the others. Also chrome is run by google who is slowly becoming an enemy of the people, orienting towards profit rather than innovation.

/the reader defunctness finally forces me away from google because that was the only thing tying me to using any of their services.
 
2013-04-02 03:59:01 PM
Chrome is so 2010.
 
hej
2013-04-02 04:01:47 PM
April Fools was yesterday, Cnet.
 
2013-04-02 04:02:04 PM

enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


thats works for FF as well
 
2013-04-02 04:04:13 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


Firefox > "Start private browsing". TFA calls it "porn-mode" in the headline.

Porn mode basically creates a temporary profile - no history, no cookies, no nothing. You can log in to website and create cookies and history. But, as soon as you close the window, or switch back to normal browsing, the entire profile gets destroyed along with its history and cookies.

It doesn't keep sites from tracking you by means other than browser cookies. For example, I suspect Flash's own history and storage is shared with your main profile.

It's called "porn mode" because you can open it, watch porn, close it and your main browser has not lost any history and looks less suspicious than clearing your history all the time.  Of course, it has plenty of other uses. I use it for testing websites with a clean profile.
 
2013-04-02 04:04:33 PM

Sapper_Topo: Oh yeah and Lycos is going to crush Google soon too... Yeah buddy!


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-04-02 04:06:11 PM

hawcian: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

Those add-ons are available for Chrome.


Yes, but does Chrome have "Self-Destructing Cookies" like FireFox? That's the feature that made me switch back to FF being my default browser.
 
2013-04-02 04:07:43 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


Ctrl+Shift+P, or Tools -> Start Private Browsing on the menu.

Or so I've heard.
 
2013-04-02 04:10:29 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


You know how we all know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-04-02 04:14:26 PM

jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window


Ok I read the article and I updated... it creates a new window now... Why not go all the way and let me create separate profiles?

Firefox has had the firefox -p flag since the beginning of frikkin forever, but even now it doesn't let you run two separate profiles at the same time
 
2013-04-02 04:18:02 PM
enik and neuroflare:  thanks for that.  I have adblock, but it didn't pickup the additional bar.
 
2013-04-02 04:18:27 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


That's funny. I use Opera; pretty apt description minus one detail.

I stopped using Firefox when it started crashing every time I updated. I haven't looked back. I was never a fan of IE, and Chrome makes my tinfoil hat tremble.

/would probably sooner trust MS than Google anyway
 
2013-04-02 04:24:08 PM

enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


Works on IE 10 too.
 
2013-04-02 04:25:18 PM

Jim_Callahan: Mentalpatient87: I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.

Firefox has some cartoonishly massive memory leaks, and every time they close one they open another.  If all you're doing is browsing and you're not running anything else at the same time, it's usually fine.

I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.


I knew it was time to retire FF a few years ago when I had 4 tabs open (no flash, 3 essentially static webpages, and 1 gmail page) and it was taking over 1 GB of resources. I used to have a screen shot of it. Ironically TenFourFox works great on my old powerbook G4 and takes up fewer resources than Safari does, but it's a hog on any of my "modern" machines.
 
2013-04-02 04:26:36 PM

MontanaDave: Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?

You know how we all know you didn't read the article?


Sorry. I took the headline at face value, assuming it meant the numbers for Firefox were rebounding, after losing market share to Chrome. Under that assumption, I was much more interested in Farkers' comments, and didn't care about the article, at all.

This is one of the reasons I think the year (2009?) we had the headlines "Jesus prepares to receive Orel" and "Gas blows out exit, bringing 69 to a complete halt" was the best year, ever, for Fark headlines. Those headlines, among others, were funny and it was clear what the real story was.
 
2013-04-02 04:28:30 PM
Firefox started doing weird things around v17 for me on multiple computers. I switched to Chrome and just haven't had any reason to switch back. Almost everything I do that is work related is Gmail or Google Drive based so it works for me on a couple levels.

I have no use for a history filter like porn mode or private browsing so those features just plain don't matter to me.
 
2013-04-02 04:30:55 PM

jonny_q: Firefox > "Start private browsing". TFA calls it "porn-mode" in the headline.

Porn mode basically creates a temporary profile - no history, no cookies, no nothing. You can log in to website and create cookies and history. But, as soon as you close the window, or switch back to normal browsing, the entire profile gets destroyed along with its history and cookies.


Nice. Thanks for the info.
 
2013-04-02 04:36:54 PM
I'll admit.  I was super pissed about the forking of the open source browsers, and swore off Chrome for years.  However, Firefox's ineptitude to fix things, and the hyper-annoying monthly "major version" updates was the final nail for me.

Chrome just farking works.  The AdBlock extension works great, and all of the dev tools are built-in.
 
2013-04-02 04:53:01 PM

A Shambling Mound: Firefox started doing weird things around v17 for me on multiple computers. I switched to Chrome and just haven't had any reason to switch back. Almost everything I do that is work related is Gmail or Google Drive based so it works for me on a couple levels.

I have no use for a history filter like porn mode or private browsing so those features just plain don't matter to me.


It's kind of funny how back in the 1990s, MS was Satan because IE was designed to work well with various MS Webapps.  Now Chrome and Google Drive/Mail have the thing going on and most people, including myself, things it is pretty awesome.

/of course Google is better with standards
//but then again it back in the 1990s the standards were often poorly evolved at best
/Also I love Chrome for building in the dev tools instead of making me need Firebug
 
2013-04-02 04:53:31 PM
I guess Google forgot that evil pays.
 
2013-04-02 04:53:55 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


moviecitynews.com

/would lol again
 
2013-04-02 04:54:08 PM

Klom Dark: hawcian: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

Those add-ons are available for Chrome.

Yes, but does Chrome have "Self-Destructing Cookies" like FireFox? That's the feature that made me switch back to FF being my default browser.


Hmm, interesting. I can't find anything that claims to duplicate its claimed functionality (deleting cookies based on tracking behaviors). Best I could find in a short search is a cookie manager that keeps a whitelist and auto-deletes unwanted cookies periodically (five minutes at fastest). It's possible it exists, but I don't know what it would be called.
 
2013-04-02 04:57:52 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


aka "Private Browsing"
 
2013-04-02 05:09:11 PM

jonny_q: I will switch back to Firefox when I can have multiple profiles as easily as I can in Chrome.

I keep work stuff (separate gmail account) open in one profile and personal stuff in another.

Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window. So, that's not even a good enough solution for having a second login to the same site to do things.


Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.
 
2013-04-02 05:12:26 PM
I keep hearing how Firefox uses more resources than Chrome, that hasn't been true for a while and if any browser is getting bloated it is Chrome.  For me Firefox simply does things that Chrome can't.

Plus why does anyone care about efficiency anyway, I have RAM coming out of my ears, Windows knows how to manage it.
 
2013-04-02 05:14:39 PM
yes Firefox can be a memory hog but it has the best addons
I used adblock, https anywhere, ghostry and a bunch of other addons

If you learn how to edit about:config you can fix some of the memory issues

If you are going to run Chrome I suggest Chromium or SRW Iron, one of the versions that doesn't phone home
 
2013-04-02 05:24:11 PM

HeartBurnKid: Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.


Yeah, I've been playing with it.

I also found that you can do this:

firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Personal"
to open your profile named Personal

and then
firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Business"
to open the Business profile in a separate window.

I did not know about the -no-remote flag, and I don't know how new it is. Previously, if you already had Firefox running, it would just open another window in the same profile.

So, not as clean as what Chrome does... chrome uses the little cartoon icons with a dropdown for different profiles. But this might be good enough for me.
 
2013-04-02 05:27:40 PM
No joke, I started using Chrome because it was more compatible with my company's SharePoint intranet than either IE or FF. Why 64-bit IE didn't work with SharePoint is anyone's guess.
 
2013-04-02 05:28:46 PM

neuroflare: www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


Thank you
 
2013-04-02 05:28:53 PM

Jekylman: No joke, I started using Chrome because it was more compatible with my company's SharePoint intranet than either IE or FF. Why 64-bit IE didn't work with SharePoint is anyone's guess.


Sharepoint blowing would be my guess.
 
2013-04-02 05:29:17 PM

jonny_q: HeartBurnKid: Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.

Yeah, I've been playing with it.

I also found that you can do this:

firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Personal"
to open your profile named Personal

and then
firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Business"
to open the Business profile in a separate window.

I did not know about the -no-remote flag, and I don't know how new it is. Previously, if you already had Firefox running, it would just open another window in the same profile.

So, not as clean as what Chrome does... chrome uses the little cartoon icons with a dropdown for different profiles. But this might be good enough for me.


Actually, the no-remote flag has been in for ages.  I used to use it to open a separate Firefox process to watch videos, before Firefox started dropping plugins into a separate process anyway.
 
2013-04-02 05:32:41 PM
32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!
 
2013-04-02 05:34:54 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-02 05:41:59 PM

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


^ THIS. This is awesome. Back in the day you had to go and keep adding CSS rules to add borders to elements in order to figure out where the hell they were on the page. Not anymore.
 
2013-04-02 05:46:20 PM

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


Whats that?
 
2013-04-02 05:55:35 PM

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]


Holy fark!  That's awesome.  Not sure if it's completely useful, but I imagine the visualization makes things quicker to spot.
 
2013-04-02 06:03:50 PM

blue_2501: fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]

Holy fark!  That's awesome.  Not sure if it's completely useful, but I imagine the visualization makes things quicker to spot.


Seconded, what plugin is that? It does look more "on the spot" than the web developer toolbar with element outlines enabled..
 
2013-04-02 06:03:53 PM
Firefox with ad/script block for pron, Chrome for everything else.  What is this Innertubes Explorer everyone speaks of?

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


And I approve of this post^^^^.
 
2013-04-02 06:05:50 PM
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware.  I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error:  400 Bad Request."  Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

Tried clearing FF's cache, no joy.  My ISP has no clue.  Neither do I.
 
2013-04-02 06:07:03 PM

IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!


"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.
 
2013-04-02 06:12:14 PM
Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.
 
2013-04-02 06:20:50 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.


Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?
 
2013-04-02 06:22:57 PM

IntertubeUser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.

Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?


It was just snerk.  Don't blow your panties off. I am testing this wondermous new cheese as we speak.
 
2013-04-02 06:25:08 PM

Jim_Callahan: I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.


If you can't Skype with a browser window open, you are either using a poorly coded extension, haven't updated FF in a good while, or there is something wrong with your computer.
 
2013-04-02 06:33:43 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: What is this Innertubes Explorer everyone speaks of?


Its the tool you use to download Firefox.
 
2013-04-02 06:41:44 PM
Google would just add the pre-checked chrome option to more freeware. What's funny is people are not complaining like they did with bonzi buddy, real player, and how Apple tried to jam Safari down your throat with Quicktime updates
 
2013-04-02 06:44:36 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.


Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG
 
2013-04-02 06:49:02 PM

stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG


Don't worry, smeggy is still upset about that 40 year old virgin story from the weekend being a fake.

...forever alone...
 
2013-04-02 06:49:08 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.

Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?

It was just snerk.  Don't blow your panties off. I am testing this wondermous new cheese as we speak.


Well, the 64 bit is nice.  Retrieval from cache is considerably faster.  The GUI is of course familiar.  I am still gonna keep two browsers, one for late night study *cough*, and Chrome for the daily nerdiness.
Two caches, two different profiles/security/cookies management etc.....brain is wired that way, not to trust one app for my behavioural problems.
 
2013-04-02 06:58:17 PM
I know FF gets a lot of hate around these parts, but it runs great on Windows 8.

/love FF
//love Windows 8
 
2013-04-02 07:03:04 PM

Faddy: I keep hearing how Firefox uses more resources than Chrome, that hasn't been true for a while and if any browser is getting bloated it is Chrome.  For me Firefox simply does things that Chrome can't.

Plus why does anyone care about efficiency anyway, I have RAM coming out of my ears, Windows knows how to manage it.


My firefox.exe process used to go up to 3 gigs.  It sorta sucked when that happened because it would get really slow.

But those problems are long gone.  Now it's just other little annoyances.
 
2013-04-02 07:03:27 PM

stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG


Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.
 
2013-04-02 07:03:36 PM
Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.
 
2013-04-02 07:09:27 PM

Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.


But your 640K and a 256 Hz CPU brain won't get you there Sparky....just saying.

/more snerk
 
2013-04-02 07:15:55 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.

But your 640K and a 256 Hz CPU brain won't get you there Sparky....just saying.

/more snerk


Thank you for being so generous with my specs.
 
2013-04-02 07:17:36 PM

Ed Finnerty: Browsers are for noobs. I jam an ethernet cable from my router up my nose and manually read the internet by candlelight.


Oh what, you need your rinky-dink router to convert the internet into dainty digital data packet frames for you?  I stab the fiber strains directly into my eye, the way lord Babbage intended.
 
2013-04-02 07:24:22 PM

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


It's all about figuring out what scripts are necessary for sites to run, and enabling those. The three I allow on this domain are Fark, Google, and Google-analytics. Everything is blocked and Fark works fine and dandy.

I figure, why run more than I need to. I also may or may not use certain acquisition programs popular around hypothetical bays of pirates, and stopping tracking cookies is a good thing.
 
2013-04-02 07:28:51 PM

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


Because I don't want cookies and malware tracking me across the internet and phoning home.

personally I use Chrome with- Ad Block Plus, Flash Block, and Ghostery. I refuse to be a black hole where ad companies can dump more and more stuff onto my computer and harvest it.
 
2013-04-02 07:30:51 PM
You luddites

I use my own custom browser that I wrote from scratch and I don't offer it to anyone except myself and my very very close personal friends who also act as beta testers but even though nobody has ever found a bug I issue a new release every other day. I'm up to v47.9.1.420 as of yesterday.
 
2013-04-02 07:34:06 PM
Browsers? What do you need that for? Just telnet into the webserver and type all the HTTP headers yourself.

Bunch of lazy bums in here.
 
2013-04-02 07:36:57 PM

unyon: I'd be happier if FF didn't let flash run wild.


Flash is designed with two powerful features not found in other languages- portability and security!
 
2013-04-02 07:45:07 PM

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


Your kids?
 
2013-04-02 07:54:13 PM
For any other FF people, check out Collusion.

dtdstudios.com
 
2013-04-02 07:54:38 PM
Had to switch back to FF from Chrome since Chrome keeps crashing scripts that FF will run.
Sure, Chrome is marginally faster at some things and uses a bit less RAM but I have a processor that runs 8 threads and 32gb of RAM. I'm not worried about resources, I want a browser that actually does the farking job even if that means it taps out 4 cores and 16GB of RAM under load- that still leaves me plenty of power to do other things with.
 
2013-04-02 08:11:04 PM

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


The entire internet is a deep dark bowel.  Legitimate websites get compromised all the time, it is a smart decision to stop your browser from executing client-side scripting and/or creating unknown Java connections to remote servers at random.
 
2013-04-02 08:13:26 PM

Ed Finnerty: For any other FF people, check out Collusion.

[dtdstudios.com image 850x627]


WOW, that does look like an awesome tool for snooping on the snoops!

Wish someone would make a thesis or dissertation project based on this capability.  Would be a great read, I'm sure.
 
2013-04-02 08:20:28 PM
For those complaining about FF's "Private Browsing" deficiencies:

<A HREF="http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/02/2241249/firefox-20-arri ves-wit h-per-window-private-browsing-new-download-manager">Firefox 20 Arrives with Per-Window Private Browsing...</a>
 
2013-04-02 08:24:05 PM

veive: Had to switch back to FF from Chrome since Chrome keeps crashing scripts that FF will run.
Sure, Chrome is marginally faster at some things and uses a bit less RAM but I have a processor that runs 8 threads and 32gb of RAM. I'm not worried about resources, I want a browser that actually does the farking job even if that means it taps out 4 cores and 16GB of RAM under load- that still leaves me plenty of power to do other things with.


What scripts that Chrome crashes on that FF doesn't?
 
2013-04-02 08:26:27 PM
Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?
 
2013-04-02 08:45:53 PM

lostcat: Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?


The correct PC term is mastursurfing.
 
2013-04-02 08:47:31 PM
Version 23 of Nightly scores higher on the HTML5 test 419 vs 379 of FF20
 
2013-04-02 08:48:47 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: lostcat: Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?

The correct PC term is mastursurfing.


aka Pleasure Surfing
 
2013-04-02 08:52:58 PM

neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well


Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!
 
2013-04-02 08:54:41 PM
BarkingUnicorn
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware. I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error: 400 Bad Request." Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

All foxnews URLs? Or just some?
Do you have an example?

It should be pretty simple to figure out by comparing at the request headers.
 
2013-04-02 09:09:42 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.

Your kids?


I read Easyrider magazine at age 8.  Tits aren't going to hurt a preteen boy.  I'd rather them know where the good porn is that won't give the computer a disease than risk them going out and finding bad porn.

Start your kids with domai so they know what the broads they're going be farking look like
 
2013-04-02 09:19:06 PM

moralpanic: veive: Had to switch back to FF from Chrome since Chrome keeps crashing scripts that FF will run.
Sure, Chrome is marginally faster at some things and uses a bit less RAM but I have a processor that runs 8 threads and 32gb of RAM. I'm not worried about resources, I want a browser that actually does the farking job even if that means it taps out 4 cores and 16GB of RAM under load- that still leaves me plenty of power to do other things with.

What scripts that Chrome crashes on that FF doesn't?

Link

Took me a bit to find one that I'm not under an NDA about.

/CSB
//Meh
///Not really
 
2013-04-02 09:49:22 PM
AOL Browser works best
 
2013-04-02 09:50:20 PM
Well right now, Chrome is giving me this message when I try to use Google to search:


This webpage is not availableThe webpage at  https://www.google.com/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.Error 15 (net::ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED): Unknown error.
 
2013-04-02 09:50:43 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: lostcat: Used to use FF a lot when I was doing front-end development. But when Chrome came out I quickly dropped FF. I still keep it around in case I ever do some coding and want to check my work across browsers, but I have no use for the plug-ins/add-ons in my everday websurfing.

/do people still call it websurfing?

The correct PC term is mastursurfing.


I just want to ride her pleasure wave.
 
2013-04-02 09:55:00 PM

Somaticasual: blue_2501: fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x653]

Holy fark!  That's awesome.  Not sure if it's completely useful, but I imagine the visualization makes things quicker to spot.

Seconded, what plugin is that? It does look more "on the spot" than the web developer toolbar with element outlines enabled..


It's called Tilt
 
2013-04-02 10:09:12 PM

enik: AdB

bemused outsider: neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well

Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!


Yep just got it to work in firefox.  Thanks.  I suppose I could have done it weeks ago and figured it out but was too lazy.
 
2013-04-02 10:13:26 PM
I tried Firefox, but I just can't get used to thinking in Russian.

/Obscure?
 
2013-04-02 10:23:55 PM

Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?


As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.
 
2013-04-02 10:28:43 PM

GameSprocket: /Obscure?


Not even close to obscure
 
2013-04-02 10:29:23 PM

phimuskapsi: . If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies


especially since you can turn off accepting cookies from the options in a browser itself.
 
2013-04-02 10:36:32 PM
People using incognito to browse porn are lame...

You use incognito to research new business ideas of dubious legality or researching the background of people you might have to eliminate as competition.
 
2013-04-02 10:38:29 PM

wildcardjack: People using incognito to browse porn are lame...

You use incognito to research new business ideas of dubious legality or researching the background of people you might have to eliminate as competition.


Some people are in or considering the porn industry. Your argument is invalid.
 
2013-04-02 10:43:32 PM

phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


In response, can I just say:

If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother.  If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine.  If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.

/Currently running adblock plus flashblock.
 
2013-04-02 10:47:30 PM

Rev.K: Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?


Dude, I just don't understand this argument...  I stopped caring about RAM usage, like, a decade ago.  Go buy some more RAM, bro.  It's not expensive.  I have 8GB in my computer.  I don't need that much.  But it was cheap and now I don't have to give a fark how much memory anything takes up.

Once you're through the looking glass, it's really hard to give a fark about memory usage.
 
2013-04-02 10:47:38 PM
I still miss Ghostzilla Browser.
 
2013-04-02 10:48:30 PM

verbaltoxin: Error 15 (net::ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED)


Clear your browser cache and cookies. Close completely (verify with task manager). Re-open.

If it is still not fixed try:

Go to chrome://net-internals/ -> Sockets tab, and clicking "Flush socket pools" and "Close idle sockets"
 
2013-04-02 10:53:42 PM

meyerkev: phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.

In response, can I just say:

If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother.  If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine.  If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.

/Currently running adblock plus flashblock.


I only load from two sites, my own but use multiple scripts that I wrote myself and the jquery/ui libraries from google. Sometimes analytics.

I forgot that noscript can limit by site, been so long since I had it installed.
 
2013-04-02 10:55:35 PM
phimuskapsi
As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading).


As a web developer and noscript user let me give a big fark you in reply because lots of the stuff people use scripts and especially jquery for are quite frankly idiotic and are waaay less cross-browser compatible than they think.


/and, as someone who has been anti-Flash for years, I kinda still prefer it over an HTML5+Ajax player which maxes out a quad core i7 as soon as you want the video to be larger than a thumbnail
 
2013-04-02 10:55:43 PM

phimuskapsi: If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


Call me paranoid if you want, but I have a serious problem with allowing every tom.com, dick.net, and harry.org unilateral access to execute code on my computer.  I'm sure 99% of the time I'm just being overly cautious.  But malicious code can and is distributed through ads or other malicious scripts.

Same kind of thing with cookies.  I have a serious problem with some of the data websites want to store on my computer.  Not to mention the various scandals about irremovable cookies...

I'd rather take the approach of just allowing scripts and cookies on the very few sites that I actually trust.

meyerkev: If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother. If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine. If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.


Totally agree, dude.
 
2013-04-02 10:59:16 PM
i use netscape navigator
 
2013-04-02 11:03:57 PM
Who needs Firefox? I get a web browser free with my AOL subscription.
 
2013-04-02 11:13:44 PM

neuroflare: www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


I can't get this to work in Adblock in FF, what am I doing wrong?
 
2013-04-02 11:25:21 PM

ThePunishr: neuroflare: www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

I can't get this to work in Adblock in FF, what am I doing wrong?


tools > adblock > open blockable > copypasta
 
2013-04-02 11:27:11 PM
Every time there's a FF hate thread, I post the same thing:

If you're too stupid to work about:config, you only deserve IE.
 
2013-04-02 11:32:30 PM
neuroflare:

tools > adblock > open blockable > copypasta

Got it, thanks.
 
2013-04-02 11:35:30 PM

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


It can save explanation time when you are browsing along side someone and you type "F" in the URL bar, and FireFox suggests you may be trying to go back to "FurryAndDwarfYaoi.com"
 
2013-04-02 11:45:43 PM

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


Uh, Chrome gets up there pretty quickly if you keep more than one tab open.
 
2013-04-02 11:49:41 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.

It can save explanation time when you are browsing along side someone and you type "F" in the URL bar, and FireFox suggests you may be trying to go back to "FurryAndDwarfYaoi.com"


Google already offers up a steady diet of amusing suggestions.  If you had any idea how often on my lunch hour I search for the strange stories to offer here you'd never question why stuff like ovulating wombats or airhose nudism shows up.

/when I die my browser history will be a testament to good old fashioned American WTF knowhow
 
2013-04-03 12:04:46 AM
I have IE, Chrome and FF latest versions on my machine and Chrome is winning the Pepsi challenge.
YMMV


img542.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-03 12:08:06 AM
It does say something that most people ITT are arguing over two browsers paid for by the same company.

Who really "owns" your browser?
 
2013-04-03 12:12:09 AM

The Voice of Doom: BarkingUnicorn
Y'know what Firefox still can't do that Chrome can?

Fetch me a Foxnews.com URL.

I guess that''s a feature, not a bug. :-)

Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware. I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error: 400 Bad Request." Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.

All foxnews URLs? Or just some?
Do you have an example?

It should be pretty simple to figure out by comparing at the request headers.


I wouldn't know a request header from a request for  head. :-)

All, for over a year.  Doesn't matter if I click a Fark link or type FoxNews.com into the address bar.

I forgot to mention that the same problem has spread to news.yahoo.com/* URLs too, about a month ago. Also, I reset FF to its default state twice with no joy.

AV scans show nothing.
 
2013-04-03 12:12:43 AM

red5ish: I have IE, Chrome and FF latest versions on my machine and Chrome is winning the Pepsi challenge.
YMMV


[img542.imageshack.us image 470x644]


Pepsi use to be big on interracial marriage back then?
 
2013-04-03 12:21:40 AM

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


Hope you don't use Yahoo much.
 
2013-04-03 12:32:17 AM

Honest Bender: Once you're through the looking glass, it's really hard to give a fark about memory usage.


I brought a job to a site last week, big complicated device that was controlled by a tiny W7 embedded computer.  At the last minute, I thought to grab a crappy old 19" LCD just in case they didn't have a convenient monitor to test it with.  Good thing i did, everything they had were frickin CRTs!!!  They were all oohiing and ahhhing over my busted out monitor* and not the $5000 worth of slick optics and shiat I'd put together.  Crazy world.

Anyway, I agree with you but there are apparently tons of people whose work computers completely suck ass and they probably need a slim browser to log onto their company's 16-bit color geocities site to update their timecards or whatnot.

* this thing has had smoke coming out of it but somehow trudges on, I treat it like it's one step from the trashpile
 
2013-04-03 12:33:47 AM
I just uninstalled Firefox the other day; I kept having it lock up and crash and I got fed up having to reload my browser each time. I tried IE again, that lasted for two days before I wanted to throw my laptop out of the window. So now I am using Chrome and thus far love it.

/maybe I'm a sheeple
//baaaaah
 
2013-04-03 12:41:16 AM

red5ish: I have IE, Chrome and FF latest versions on my machine and Chrome is winning the Pepsi challenge.
YMMV


[img542.imageshack.us image 470x644]


But there are black children in the picture you posted, so you must be racist!

Black children in that era? Was that a product of Brown v BOE?
 
2013-04-03 12:41:19 AM

meyerkev: If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother. If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine. If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.

/Currently running adblock plus flashblock.


I don't use noscript, so I don't know. I would hope that you're only blocking 3rd-party scripts by default. But then, why? Latest browsers won't load cookies from those domains. Do you globally whitelist jQuery, prototype, or google code domains for common libs that are commonly hosted there?
 
2013-04-03 12:55:25 AM
I tried Chrome.  Discovered that despite what the fanboys keep saying, it still tracks way more user data than Firefox, since Firefox allows a lot more custom privacy adjustments.  Went straight back to Firefox and have never looked back.
 
2013-04-03 12:58:52 AM

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


You might want to look at getting more RAM in to your machine, 2GB really isn't enough for a modern machine.  Although if you have 8 - 16GB in there and Firefox is using 2GB for itself and you've still got 4GB+ free.... what are you complaining about?

And yes I understand the pain of having a Core 2 Duo that's more than capable of handing the extra RAM but only takes DDR2.
 
2013-04-03 01:04:41 AM

HotWingAgenda: I tried Chrome.  Discovered that despite what the fanboys keep saying, it still tracks way more user data than Firefox, since Firefox allows a lot more custom privacy adjustments.  Went straight back to Firefox and have never looked back.


if you get one of the open source chromium builds,it is a bit less pwned by Google.  What really pissed me off about chrome was its "haha you launched to browse?  Sorry, go away for 10 minutes while we update" attitude.  Now I just use chromium on known sites w/o 3rd party ads, like Netflix, and don't worry about updates for security.

/haven't looked at the canary thing yet
 
2013-04-03 01:12:12 AM

meyerkev: If I need to load more than 3 sites to make your site work, I won't bother. If I'm on foo.com, and I need foo.com or cdn.foo.com to make the site work, that's fine. If I need 20 others (or I can't tell which 2 of the 20 others I need), we have a problem.


Oh, sweet Jeebus, this!

And I hate it when Web site operators farm out critical content to multple third-party servers that may be 30 hops away from their site and halfway around the globe.  If one of those help-servers is down or there's one bad hop, your page won't load and I'm getting pissed.

A shiatload of newspapers are using something called extras.mnginteractive.com and that farking server ALWAYS hangs on me!  Takes half a dozen reloads and a cuppa joe to get a damned page, if it ever arrives.

If you wanna run a Web site, run a Web site and not a distributed Frankenstein's monster!
 
2013-04-03 01:14:56 AM

phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.


Right now, on this webpage, I'm using noscript to block three sites I don't recognize, don't trust, and know for a fact are not necessary to browse this site.

Additionally, my ghostery is blocking 7 known identity trackers, and my ad-block is killing a slew of other third-party scripts.  And this is all just on Fark, a site I've been coming to for nearly a decade, run by a group of people that I would personally trust with my actual wallet.
 
2013-04-03 01:33:03 AM

HotWingAgenda: phimuskapsi: Mad_Radhu: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?

As a web developer let me just give a big fark you, to anyone that uses noscript. Yes, javascript helps deliver ads, it also is pretty vital to CSS3/HTML5 being able to eliminate Flash. Almost all of my websites now simply won't let you browse until you do turn on the scripts (and I don't have ads) because a truly dynamic page requires scripts to make a better design; especially using jQuery and asynchronous data requests (so you don't have loading). 

Get AdBlock, that's really all you need. If you are so paranoid about scripts and cookies, you might want to reconsider what you are doing on the internet.

Right now, on this webpage, I'm using noscript to block three sites I don't recognize, don't trust, and know for a fact are not necessary to browse this site.

Additionally, my ghostery is blocking 7 known identity trackers, and my ad-block is killing a slew of other third-party scripts.  And this is all just on Fark, a site I've been coming to for nearly a decade, run by a group of people that I would personally trust with my actual wallet.


Well, unfortunately that's the cost of doing business on the web. Advertisers need to make money, people block ads (myself included) so some tracking is going to happen so they can still ultimately get paid, that's how content comes to you. I actually disable adblock on Fark because they show a message saying that Fark feeds their squirrel with revenue from the ads (lol). The web isn't free guys, content costs money, design costs money, servers cost money. For all you subscribers, wtg, that's great that you support them, but millions don't in the direct way you do.

The Voice of Doom: phimuskapsi
As a web developer and noscript user let me give a big fark you in reply because lots of the stuff people use scripts and especially jquery for are quite frankly idiotic and are waaay less cross-browser compatible than they think.

/and, as someone who has been anti-Flash for years, I kinda still prefer it over an HTML5+Ajax player which maxes out a quad core i7 as soon as you want the video to be larger than a thumbnail


If you are maxing out your CPU on a HTML5 video, you aren't GPU accelerating the browser/video. 

jQuery is COMPLETELY cross-browser compatible. It's javascript. There are a few minor differences between the webkit/moz browsers to IE, but I'm talking very very minor, maybe one or two functions. AJAX is here to stay. That's how all the fancy notifications and so on work. It's actively doing data work while you work, rather than locking up your browser while it waits for a response from the server. Like logging in without a page refreshing. People want speed, ajax IS speed; and ajax is just a small part of the jQuery library. 

I also wanted to note that the tracking stuff that runs in Chrome is also mostly for your benefit, it preloads your more visited sites and so on. That's why it's so fast compared to other browsers. It also has the fastest JS interpreter out of the bunch, and the developer tools are better than firebug (though if you want it, you can get it for Chrome), it isn't as bloated as FF due to sandboxing pages as individual processes but it still uses a lot of RAM. Though, most PC's should have 4GB or up as standard now anyway, someone said earlier that it really shouldn't matter that much (or you could close some tabs).
 
2013-04-03 02:09:40 AM
Is there an add-on or anything out there that lets imgur work with Noscript in Firefox? Noscript seems to have permanently broken imgur, even with it being allowed.
 
2013-04-03 02:51:18 AM
I tried Chrome.  It gives up too easily.  Firefox will load a page on a slow connection, but Chrome is like knock once and instead of waiting for someone to answer the door, Chrome pisses on the porch and runs off.  Refuses to load damn pages.
 
2013-04-03 03:27:55 AM

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


Chrome, if you're signed into your Google account of any flavor (gmail, youtube, etc) will record your web searches and in some cases make them public to anyone on your friends list.

If you search porn in Google and you aren't in Incognito mode you're essentially broadcasting your search results to everyone you know.
 
2013-04-03 03:59:58 AM
Am I the only one that sees the value of clean sessions for development and especially debugging, but doesn't particularly see the value of the thing for porn?  If you've authorized someone to see your search history or whatever then it should probably be someone you're not ashamed to let in on your porn habits, and if your significant other is snooping in your browser history then you really shouldn't be dating/have married them.

gadian: I tried Chrome.  It gives up too easily.  Firefox will load a page on a slow connection, but Chrome is like knock once and instead of waiting for someone to answer the door, Chrome pisses on the porch and runs off.  Refuses to load damn pages.


I've had chrome run for thirty full seconds before loading a page, having a connection bad enough that what you're talking about is an issue is... probably not that common.

Also, a browser constantly pinging a target without ever deciding that's enough and returning a 404 (or lost connection) is more of a bug than a feature, even if it's useful in our case.  Kind of like how RealPlayer used to not check for corrupted files and would let you play some segment of them before hitting the bad bit and crashing (where other players wouldn't load the files at all).
 
2013-04-03 04:18:24 AM
 
2013-04-03 04:41:34 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.  Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.

Your kids?

I read Easyrider magazine at age 8.  Tits aren't going to hurt a preteen boy.


That really depends how big they are.

/will go have a seat over there
 
2013-04-03 05:13:07 AM
People complaining about Firefox's bloat don't seem to understand it isn't bloated, it's just fully customizable with capabilities the others don't have. Learn how to use it and decide what you want and don't and it's the best thing out there by far.
 
2013-04-03 05:22:56 AM

Terrible Old Man: People complaining about Firefox's bloat don't seem to understand it isn't bloated, it's just fully customizable with capabilities the others don't have. Learn how to use it and decide what you want and don't and it's the best thing out there by far.


The basic browser, no add-ons, most options turned off, has memory leaks that will be eating anywhere from a couple hundred megs to a couple gigs of RAM after half an hour of sitting open on the Google homepage with no other tabs open, the specific rate of consumption and snowballing varying slightly from release to release but never actually going away.

Feature bloat is correctable, sure, but most people aren't complaining about the feature creep itself, they're complaining about the browser being a massive resource hog for no apparent reason.  If you look at, say, Opera, there is still bloat/lack of efficiency, but the resource use of the program is consistent over time and proportional to what you've got open in the browser, it doesn't just randomly eat 2/3 of our RAM because it feels like it that day.
 
2013-04-03 06:19:15 AM

SpaceBison: Pffft. Amateurs.
[www.productwiki.com image 600x600]
http://www.konqueror.org/features/browser.php


You use KDE?

lh3.ggpht.com

If we're going there, I recommend Dillo.
 
2013-04-03 07:27:41 AM
They are both horrible mobile browsers.
 
2013-04-03 07:36:21 AM
Make sure you update your extensions right after you update firefox.

//Had a weird right click context menu bug that loaded every possible menu item and wouldn't let me open new tabs..
 
2013-04-03 07:47:21 AM

phimuskapsi: verbaltoxin: Error 15 (net::ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED)

Clear your browser cache and cookies. Close completely (verify with task manager). Re-open.

If it is still not fixed try:

Go to chrome://net-internals/ -> Sockets tab, and clicking "Flush socket pools" and "Close idle sockets"


Cool thanks. I cleared the cache, history and cookies, and it seems to have fixed it.
 
2013-04-03 07:57:10 AM

IntertubeUser:
I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.


*Palemoon Fistbump*
 
2013-04-03 08:15:12 AM

Jim_Callahan: Terrible Old Man: People complaining about Firefox's bloat don't seem to understand it isn't bloated, it's just fully customizable with capabilities the others don't have. Learn how to use it and decide what you want and don't and it's the best thing out there by far.

The basic browser, no add-ons, most options turned off, has memory leaks that will be eating anywhere from a couple hundred megs to a couple gigs of RAM after half an hour of sitting open on the Google homepage with no other tabs open, the specific rate of consumption and snowballing varying slightly from release to release but never actually going away.

Feature bloat is correctable, sure, but most people aren't complaining about the feature creep itself, they're complaining about the browser being a massive resource hog for no apparent reason.  If you look at, say, Opera, there is still bloat/lack of efficiency, but the resource use of the program is consistent over time and proportional to what you've got open in the browser, it doesn't just randomly eat 2/3 of our RAM because it feels like it that day.


That's funny I keep the same FF browser open at work for weeks at a time with no issues.  maybe you should return your computer, you may not know how to use it.
 
2013-04-03 08:47:46 AM

neuroflare: www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


Thank you!

I have Chrome installed, but prefer FF over it.
 
2013-04-03 09:39:43 AM

Slam Dunkz: Jim_Callahan: Terrible Old Man: People complaining about Firefox's bloat don't seem to understand it isn't bloated, it's just fully customizable with capabilities the others don't have. Learn how to use it and decide what you want and don't and it's the best thing out there by far.

The basic browser, no add-ons, most options turned off, has memory leaks that will be eating anywhere from a couple hundred megs to a couple gigs of RAM after half an hour of sitting open on the Google homepage with no other tabs open, the specific rate of consumption and snowballing varying slightly from release to release but never actually going away.

Feature bloat is correctable, sure, but most people aren't complaining about the feature creep itself, they're complaining about the browser being a massive resource hog for no apparent reason.  If you look at, say, Opera, there is still bloat/lack of efficiency, but the resource use of the program is consistent over time and proportional to what you've got open in the browser, it doesn't just randomly eat 2/3 of our RAM because it feels like it that day.

That's funny I keep the same FF browser open at work for weeks at a time with no issues.  maybe you should return your computer, you may not know how to use it.


Same thing happens to me across three different computers/platforms. A Win XP VM will eat into the RAM (all of 1 GB) when I turn on to debug and/or rest in FF. Neither Chrome nor IE happen to do the same. My T61 (4 GB) running Ubuntu and later Pear Linux suffered from the same problem. My X1 runs Win 7 and has 8 GB of RAM. FF does the same thing on it. If it were the same computer with my same usage patterns, I would likely agree with you. It's not. The only constant is that FF will eat RAM on all my computers, and I don't keep a ton of tabs open at once (maybe 4-5 max).

I'm not particularly concerned about losing the RAM (except the limited Dev box), but personally I think it shows a sloppiness with program design/coding that I don't particularly are for.
 
2013-04-03 10:09:51 AM
My work has IE 8 and Firefox 5.0.0 installed.

We are well behind the times.
 
2013-04-03 10:54:48 AM
phimuskapsi
jQuery is COMPLETELY cross-browser compatible.


Yeah, but what people do with it might not be. I fear people rely on that claim without ever actually confirming it or at least testing whatever _they_ have created.
There are sites where I can disable all blocking and still won't get a working video/slideshow/whatever.


People want speed, ajax IS speed; and ajax is just a small part of the jQuery library.

Yeah, but the way some sites use it, it can also slow shiat down by a couple of magnitudes - yeah, no full page reloads, but when every click on "next" on your slideshow triggers 30+ AJAX requests to mostly 3rdparty sites before the one that's swapping the image can finally get executed, even a full page reload would have been faster (this is no exaggeration..I only wish I had bookmarked that page for future reference).

Mind you, I know there's stuff that can only be done with Javascript or where it simply makes sense.

But if you analyze sites, most of the time when it isn't used for eye-candy, it's just used to track people in the background.
And when browsing sites like stackoverflow, I also get a strong feeling of "if all you know is a hammer.." from replies where jquery and other JS libraries are concerned.

Maybe it's my lack of practical experience with it, but if the first thing a site does is to use jquery's "onload" to swap the CSS classes of half of its (hidden!) content, I do a WTF and wonder why they didn't generate the page with the way they want in the first place.

Security is also often fun on AJAX-heavy sites where the developers didn't imagine that people might manually query their backend. Or where the site itself sends out stuff in JSON objects which people have no business of knowing and it just isn't displayed - like, a comment system where an AJAX response not only contains the comments and the usernames of the people who made the comments, but also the users' email addresses and other data (hello, Washington Post).
 
2013-04-03 11:47:13 AM
johneaves.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-03 11:47:50 AM
BarkingUnicorn
Problem seems to be the combination of Firefox with my ISP's Microtik router firmware. I get "Mikrotik HttpProxy Error: 400 Bad Request." Copy the URL to Chrome or IE and it works. Copy and paste it into FF and it doesn't.
[..]
I wouldn't know a request header from a request for head. :-)


Ah, this makes things a bit complicated. ;)

The way I figured things from your posts is that there's a transparent proxy somewhere between you an those sites (e.g. on the modem/router you got from your ISP).
If that proxy only throws up when you request an URL with FF, there has to be a difference in the way Firefox requests those sites (very likely) or in the response the server sends back (less likely, because it says "bad request").

There are addons for FF that let you watch (e.g Live HTTP headers) and even modify (e.g. Modify Headers) what your browser actually sends and receives when you request an URL.
There has to be something odd or at least different(*) compared to the other browsers.

Although I don't know how accurate those are if the cause isn't something Firefox itself does, but another add-on or some browser-hijacking malware screwing around with the requests (like, if you use both of those add-ons, would "Live Http Headers" show you the headers before or after "Modify Headers" had its go at changing them).

---

(*) one difference unrelated to your problem as an example:
if there's an image hotlinked in a website with <img src="someurl.jpg">, all browsers send a request header saying something like "I would prefer an image as response for this URL"

Should you follow a link to an image ("click here for bigger version") or copy&paste an image URL directly into the address bar, most browsers figure from the URL ending in e.g ".jpg" that this will be an image and still send "I want an image in response".
But Mozilla browsers like Firefox instead send "I've a very slight preference for receiving an HTML page as a response, but if you send me an image, I'll gladly take that, too".

That usually doesn't make a difference, but as Fark photoshoppers learned the hard way, Photobucket's redesigned website will honor FF's slight preference for HTML when requesting an image that way. So photobucket doesn't respond by sending the requested image, but forwards all FF users to a poorly working website containing the image.
 
2013-04-03 11:50:07 AM
The Voice of Doom: [trimmed]

- I agree that many developers need to work on testing what works/doesn't work.

- I also agree that ajax requests to 30 different places is ridiculous as well. 
   - I typically do Web Application development so I'm doing a bunch of minor PHP/MySQL functions and want a responsive GUI

- The real problem here are content providers. News companies in particular do this a lot and while I get why (attribution for copyright holders mainly). The fracturing of the content as well as not all providers being equal in capabilities (e.g. bandwidth) is a huge problem.

- Eh. SO tends to recommend jquery in a lot of situations and in some cases jQ plugins (like LiveQuery). Depends on what you are looking for.

- I don't get that with CSS either. CSS should already be configured before hand. But I do build dialogs and tables dynamically fairly frequently
  - Occassionally I'll use .toggleClass()/.toggle() or even add/remove class but this is usually for specific highlighting sometimes from deleting from the DOM

- Security CAN be an issue, but most of this is resolved by doing POSTs over GETs. As for responses, if they are 'echoed' that way then sure, but this can be resolved by encoding the 'at-risk' response with an MD5 or Base64 or some kind of obfuscation.
 
2013-04-03 12:09:42 PM
Meh... I tried all browsers at some point... sticking with FF because it works fine, easy to use, the extensions are fun to have, and I don't feel like throwing my computer against the wall like I do when I use anything else.

But that's just a detail.
 
2013-04-03 01:33:27 PM

LoneVVolf: IntertubeUser:
I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.

*Palemoon Fistbump*


Love me some Palemoon.  Nice and fast without the clunkage of FF.
 
2013-04-03 02:22:37 PM

brandent: enik: AdBbemused outsider: neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well

Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!

Yep just got it to work in firefox.  Thanks.  I suppose I could have done it weeks ago and figured it out but was too lazy.


I don't get it on my list of blockable items at all. What the hell?
 
2013-04-03 02:23:31 PM
FF has gone to shiat in the past few years. I had to switch to chrome after experiencing at least half a dozen hard crashes every day with FF.

Aint nobody got time for that.
 
2013-04-03 02:28:56 PM

crab66: FF has gone to shiat in the past few years. I had to switch to chrome after experiencing at least half a dozen hard crashes every day with FF.

Aint nobody got time for that.


Interesting...

I, and I'm sure many others, never had more than a crash of FF per 6 month or full year.

Heck I can't even remember the last time FF gave me issues.

The closest I'd say would be when I got on some messed up site that required a process close as it was trying to load a bunch of crap videos or something, froze the browser, but tried it with other browsers and it did the same thing.

You should have looked into the actual cause, possibly a registry issue, which, something like Glary Utilities would clear up real fast.

Maybe uninstalling and re-installing would have cleared things up.

Crap can happen to just about any hardware/software, but it could be the silliest thing.
 
2013-04-03 02:48:36 PM

Smeggy Smurf: stewbert: Smeggy Smurf: Chrome has a porn mode.  It's called look at porn without being ashamed.

Yeah, by using Incognito. Very ITG

Who would you hide your porn from?  A boss?  Work is for farking.   Porn is for home to share with whoever you have waiting for you.


Obviously you don't have kids, or you'd need a seat over there.

But the primary reason is that most of the people involved in porn seem to be assholes with no ethics or morals. So, Incognito it is.
 
2013-04-03 02:54:02 PM
I like btw that the keystroke for porn mode is Ctrl-Shift-P, so if you fark up and hit Ctrl-P you've just printed out your porn for the world to see.

/not that i know anything about that.
 
2013-04-03 03:48:16 PM

crab66: FF has gone to shiat in the past few years. I had to switch to chrome after experiencing at least half a dozen hard crashes every day with FF.

Aint nobody got time for that.


I have had exactly zero crashes with FF.  My guess is that one of your plugins was causing the problem.
 
2013-04-03 03:51:50 PM

macadamnut: brandent: enik: AdBbemused outsider: neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well

Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!

Yep just got it to work in firefox.  Thanks.  I suppose I could have done it weeks ago and figured it out but was too lazy.

I don't get it on my list of blockable items at all. What the hell?


It's not on your list of blockable items.  You have to enter that line into a new filter.  copy/'paste exactly.
 
2013-04-03 04:55:54 PM

The Voice of Doom: If that proxy only throws up when you request an URL with FF, there has to be a difference in the way Firefox requests those sites (very likely)


That's what I thought.  Today, it just got weirder.

Now Chrome won't do Foxnews.com.  Not from Fark; not from pasting a URL; not from typing Foxnews.com in the address bar.  But IE still does all of that.

Chrome and IE will still do news.yahoo.com URLs but FF still won't.  Other *.yahoo.com servers work in all 3 browsers.

Goddam liberal developers, I guess.
 
2013-04-03 06:01:21 PM

brandent: macadamnut: brandent: enik: AdBbemused outsider: neuroflare: enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]

thats works for FF as well

Oooohh!  I like this!
Thanks muchly!

Yep just got it to work in firefox.  Thanks.  I suppose I could have done it weeks ago and figured it out but was too lazy.

I don't get it on my list of blockable items at all. What the hell?

It's not on your list of blockable items.  You have to enter that line into a new filter.  copy/'paste exactly.


Sweet, that was easy. Don't tell Drew.
 
rpm
2013-04-03 08:04:46 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Now Chrome won't do Foxnews.com.  Not from Fark; not from pasting a URL; not from typing Foxnews.com in the address bar.  But IE still does all of that.


That's all you. Works for me, Chrome 26.0.1410.43, Adblock plus installed.
 
2013-04-03 08:07:31 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: IntertubeUser: 32-bit browsers...how quaint.

I've been using Pale Moon (64-bit Firefox variant) and absolutely love it.  I can customize it in ways that are impossible in Chrome.  And the Add-Ons...Chrome is still years behind Firefox.

Enjoy having your surfing habits and personal data havested, Chrometards!

"Top news:

Pale Moon 19.0.2 has been released which is minor update to the new v19 to address a critical security vulnerability. More info in the."


Sounds dreamy.

Did you have a point or are you unaccustomed to people fixing the stuff the make?

It was just snerk.  Don't blow your panties off. I am testing this wondermous new cheese as we speak.

Well, the 64 bit is nice.  Retrieval from cache is considerably faster.  The GUI is of course familiar.  I am still gonna keep two browsers, one for late night study *cough*, and Chrome for the daily nerdiness.
Two caches, two different profiles/security/cookies management etc.....brain is wired that way, not to trust one app for my behavioural problems.


I was thinking of going back to the 64-bit version but had problems with some of the plug-ins as they are not 64-bit.  Some are, some are not.
 
2013-04-03 08:17:19 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The Voice of Doom: If that proxy only throws up when you request an URL with FF, there has to be a difference in the way Firefox requests those sites (very likely)

That's what I thought.  Today, it just got weirder.

Now Chrome won't do Foxnews.com.  Not from Fark; not from pasting a URL; not from typing Foxnews.com in the address bar.  But IE still does all of that.

Chrome and IE will still do news.yahoo.com URLs but FF still won't.  Other *.yahoo.com servers work in all 3 browsers.

Goddam liberal developers, I guess.


Firefox has the ability to use non-system proxy settings, I have a sneaky feeling your plight lies there.  (Tools->Options->Advanced->Network tab->Settings)
 
2013-04-03 11:03:04 PM

BumpInTheNight: BarkingUnicorn: The Voice of Doom: If that proxy only throws up when you request an URL with FF, there has to be a difference in the way Firefox requests those sites (very likely)

That's what I thought.  Today, it just got weirder.

Now Chrome won't do Foxnews.com.  Not from Fark; not from pasting a URL; not from typing Foxnews.com in the address bar.  But IE still does all of that.

Chrome and IE will still do news.yahoo.com URLs but FF still won't.  Other *.yahoo.com servers work in all 3 browsers.

Goddam liberal developers, I guess.

Firefox has the ability to use non-system proxy settings, I have a sneaky feeling your plight lies there.  (Tools->Options->Advanced->Network tab->Settings)


Thanks.  It's set to auto-detect proxy settings.  Is that good or bad?  My ISP told me to make it  was set to auto.
 
2013-04-03 11:05:22 PM

rpm: BarkingUnicorn: Now Chrome won't do Foxnews.com.  Not from Fark; not from pasting a URL; not from typing Foxnews.com in the address bar.  But IE still does all of that.

That's all you. Works for me, Chrome 26.0.1410.43, Adblock plus installed.


And your ISP is using Mikrotik?

'Tis a puzzlement of mild vexation.
 
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