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(C|Net)   Firefox about to surpass Chrome in popularity   (reviews.cnet.com) divider line 180
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2013-04-02 01:53:22 PM
Oh yeah and Lycos is going to crush Google soon too... Yeah buddy!
 
2013-04-02 01:54:55 PM
Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.


You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?
 
2013-04-02 01:57:08 PM
I'd be happier if FF didn't let flash run wild.
 
2013-04-02 02:07:53 PM
unyon: ...flash run wild

That would be a great name for one of those spring break videos you can buy on late night TV.
 
2013-04-02 02:09:56 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-02 02:12:41 PM
Good thing you didn't use the News Flash tag subby or else it would have froze up for 5 minutes.
 
2013-04-02 02:12:53 PM
HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.
 
2013-04-02 02:13:46 PM
A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob
 
2013-04-02 02:14:03 PM

Nadie_AZ: Along with an update to the infamous "porn mode" that turns off your browser's ability to record your browsing session, the new Firefox 20 includes usability and back-end changes.

Firefox 20 updates now allow you to run a private browsing session in a new window, alongside a standard Firefox browsing window. On Firefox 20 for Android, the browser now lets you run private mode tabs next to standard session tabs.

Private browsing on Firefox is analogous to Internet Explorer's InPrivate or Chrome's Incognito. It's a feature that turns off all the browser's session recording features, including cookies, history, and temporary files.

You sure about that, Sapper_Topo?


FF is now catching up to IE and Chrome. Thats a sure strategy for market domination if I ever saw one.
 
2013-04-02 02:20:12 PM
I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.

Opera is supposed to move to a webkit backend in the near future, so that should hopefully solve the random compatibility issues.
 
2013-04-02 02:27:14 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.


Weird, I haven't had that issue.
 
2013-04-02 02:28:20 PM

costermonger: TuteTibiImperes: I've been using Opera for a long, long, time.  Lately I've been getting annoyed though because random Youtube videos don't display properly saying my browser doesn't support them, though they play fine in Chrome.

Weird, I haven't had that issue.


Most are fine, but every now and again I get a message that my browser doesn't support some random HTML5 video format, even though I'm using the latest version.
 
2013-04-02 02:54:40 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Most are fine, but every now and again I get a message that my browser doesn't support some random HTML5 video format, even though I'm using the latest version.


Shiatty. I've been using it forever, and I think the random incompatibilities are a lot less common than they once were. Chrome acts as a good fill-in for the few things that don't work entirely the way they're supposed to.
 
2013-04-02 03:06:12 PM
Firefox is so 2005.
 
2013-04-02 03:30:19 PM
Are there any other browsers that have vertical tabs? No? Well then fark 'em.
 
2013-04-02 03:36:59 PM
I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.
 
2013-04-02 03:45:38 PM
Haven't seen a reason tow switch from Mosaic
 
2013-04-02 03:46:01 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


I've never quite understood the script Nazis who block all the Javascript on a site and then whine about the site not working in the comments. Unless you are browsing the deep dark bowels of the internet, why be so paranoid about scripting on a site?
 
2013-04-02 03:46:25 PM

Rev.K: HIlarious.

Just last night, I've had the last straw with Firefox. Holy sh*t, how is it possible in 2013, a browser can get so bloated and hog so much f*cking memory?

Hello Chrome.


Be careful with the add-ons for Chrome.  You can quickly bloat it to the point that it crashes your computer.
 
2013-04-02 03:47:27 PM

Mentalpatient87: I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.


Firefox has some cartoonishly massive memory leaks, and every time they close one they open another.  If all you're doing is browsing and you're not running anything else at the same time, it's usually fine.

I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.
 
2013-04-02 03:48:42 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


Those add-ons are available for Chrome.
 
2013-04-02 03:49:20 PM
I will switch back to Firefox when I can have multiple profiles as easily as I can in Chrome.

I keep work stuff (separate gmail account) open in one profile and personal stuff in another.

Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window. So, that's not even a good enough solution for having a second login to the same site to do things.
 
2013-04-02 03:50:08 PM
Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?
 
2013-04-02 03:54:01 PM

bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?


It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]
 
2013-04-02 03:55:45 PM

jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.


Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?
 
2013-04-02 03:58:20 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob


I use ghostery and adblock. I have but don't run noscript because websites frustrate me without scripts. I shall look into the others. Also chrome is run by google who is slowly becoming an enemy of the people, orienting towards profit rather than innovation.

/the reader defunctness finally forces me away from google because that was the only thing tying me to using any of their services.
 
2013-04-02 03:59:01 PM
Chrome is so 2010.
 
hej
2013-04-02 04:01:47 PM
April Fools was yesterday, Cnet.
 
2013-04-02 04:02:04 PM

enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


thats works for FF as well
 
2013-04-02 04:04:13 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


Firefox > "Start private browsing". TFA calls it "porn-mode" in the headline.

Porn mode basically creates a temporary profile - no history, no cookies, no nothing. You can log in to website and create cookies and history. But, as soon as you close the window, or switch back to normal browsing, the entire profile gets destroyed along with its history and cookies.

It doesn't keep sites from tracking you by means other than browser cookies. For example, I suspect Flash's own history and storage is shared with your main profile.

It's called "porn mode" because you can open it, watch porn, close it and your main browser has not lost any history and looks less suspicious than clearing your history all the time.  Of course, it has plenty of other uses. I use it for testing websites with a clean profile.
 
2013-04-02 04:04:33 PM

Sapper_Topo: Oh yeah and Lycos is going to crush Google soon too... Yeah buddy!


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-04-02 04:06:11 PM

hawcian: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

Those add-ons are available for Chrome.


Yes, but does Chrome have "Self-Destructing Cookies" like FireFox? That's the feature that made me switch back to FF being my default browser.
 
2013-04-02 04:07:43 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


Ctrl+Shift+P, or Tools -> Start Private Browsing on the menu.

Or so I've heard.
 
2013-04-02 04:10:29 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


You know how we all know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-04-02 04:14:26 PM

jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window


Ok I read the article and I updated... it creates a new window now... Why not go all the way and let me create separate profiles?

Firefox has had the firefox -p flag since the beginning of frikkin forever, but even now it doesn't let you run two separate profiles at the same time
 
2013-04-02 04:18:02 PM
enik and neuroflare:  thanks for that.  I have adblock, but it didn't pickup the additional bar.
 
2013-04-02 04:18:27 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


That's funny. I use Opera; pretty apt description minus one detail.

I stopped using Firefox when it started crashing every time I updated. I haven't looked back. I was never a fan of IE, and Chrome makes my tinfoil hat tremble.

/would probably sooner trust MS than Google anyway
 
2013-04-02 04:24:08 PM

enik: bulsd: Anyway have a plugin that will stop Drew's Money Message from appearing on every page?

It's really easy to AdBlock it when you're using Chrome.  www.fark.com##DIV[id="abPleaBar"]


Works on IE 10 too.
 
2013-04-02 04:25:18 PM

Jim_Callahan: Mentalpatient87: I've been using Firefox for years. Never really had an issue with it. Tried Chrome for a bit, didn't notice much difference. Went back to FF out of habit.

Firefox has some cartoonishly massive memory leaks, and every time they close one they open another.  If all you're doing is browsing and you're not running anything else at the same time, it's usually fine.

I stick with Chrome primarily because I was tired of fighting FF for system resources every time I wanted to skype with a browser window also open.


I knew it was time to retire FF a few years ago when I had 4 tabs open (no flash, 3 essentially static webpages, and 1 gmail page) and it was taking over 1 GB of resources. I used to have a screen shot of it. Ironically TenFourFox works great on my old powerbook G4 and takes up fewer resources than Safari does, but it's a hog on any of my "modern" machines.
 
2013-04-02 04:26:36 PM

MontanaDave: Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?

You know how we all know you didn't read the article?


Sorry. I took the headline at face value, assuming it meant the numbers for Firefox were rebounding, after losing market share to Chrome. Under that assumption, I was much more interested in Farkers' comments, and didn't care about the article, at all.

This is one of the reasons I think the year (2009?) we had the headlines "Jesus prepares to receive Orel" and "Gas blows out exit, bringing 69 to a complete halt" was the best year, ever, for Fark headlines. Those headlines, among others, were funny and it was clear what the real story was.
 
2013-04-02 04:28:30 PM
Firefox started doing weird things around v17 for me on multiple computers. I switched to Chrome and just haven't had any reason to switch back. Almost everything I do that is work related is Gmail or Google Drive based so it works for me on a couple levels.

I have no use for a history filter like porn mode or private browsing so those features just plain don't matter to me.
 
2013-04-02 04:30:55 PM

jonny_q: Firefox > "Start private browsing". TFA calls it "porn-mode" in the headline.

Porn mode basically creates a temporary profile - no history, no cookies, no nothing. You can log in to website and create cookies and history. But, as soon as you close the window, or switch back to normal browsing, the entire profile gets destroyed along with its history and cookies.


Nice. Thanks for the info.
 
2013-04-02 04:36:54 PM
I'll admit.  I was super pissed about the forking of the open source browsers, and swore off Chrome for years.  However, Firefox's ineptitude to fix things, and the hyper-annoying monthly "major version" updates was the final nail for me.

Chrome just farking works.  The AdBlock extension works great, and all of the dev tools are built-in.
 
2013-04-02 04:53:01 PM

A Shambling Mound: Firefox started doing weird things around v17 for me on multiple computers. I switched to Chrome and just haven't had any reason to switch back. Almost everything I do that is work related is Gmail or Google Drive based so it works for me on a couple levels.

I have no use for a history filter like porn mode or private browsing so those features just plain don't matter to me.


It's kind of funny how back in the 1990s, MS was Satan because IE was designed to work well with various MS Webapps.  Now Chrome and Google Drive/Mail have the thing going on and most people, including myself, things it is pretty awesome.

/of course Google is better with standards
//but then again it back in the 1990s the standards were often poorly evolved at best
/Also I love Chrome for building in the dev tools instead of making me need Firebug
 
2013-04-02 04:53:31 PM
I guess Google forgot that evil pays.
 
2013-04-02 04:53:55 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 466x1024]


moviecitynews.com

/would lol again
 
2013-04-02 04:54:08 PM

Klom Dark: hawcian: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: A couple of proper add-ons and Firefox is significantly better than Chrome.

Noscript
FoxyProxy
YoutubeCommentSnob

Those add-ons are available for Chrome.

Yes, but does Chrome have "Self-Destructing Cookies" like FireFox? That's the feature that made me switch back to FF being my default browser.


Hmm, interesting. I can't find anything that claims to duplicate its claimed functionality (deleting cookies based on tracking behaviors). Best I could find in a short search is a cookie manager that keeps a whitelist and auto-deletes unwanted cookies periodically (five minutes at fastest). It's possible it exists, but I don't know what it would be called.
 
2013-04-02 04:57:52 PM

Dadoo: jonny_q: Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window.

Firefox has a "porn mode"? Care to enlighten the rest of us?


aka "Private Browsing"
 
2013-04-02 05:09:11 PM

jonny_q: I will switch back to Firefox when I can have multiple profiles as easily as I can in Chrome.

I keep work stuff (separate gmail account) open in one profile and personal stuff in another.

Also, last I checked, porn-mode closed your main window. So, that's not even a good enough solution for having a second login to the same site to do things.


Did you RTFA?  Because it talks at great length about how the porn mode no longer closes your main window.
 
2013-04-02 05:12:26 PM
I keep hearing how Firefox uses more resources than Chrome, that hasn't been true for a while and if any browser is getting bloated it is Chrome.  For me Firefox simply does things that Chrome can't.

Plus why does anyone care about efficiency anyway, I have RAM coming out of my ears, Windows knows how to manage it.
 
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