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(Something Else Reviews)   David Gilmour had the proper response to a producer's suggestion that he rap for Pink Floyd   (somethingelsereviews.com) divider line 75
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2013-04-02 12:57:32 PM
I don't see anything in that article about a swift kick to the nuts, subby.
 
2013-04-02 01:01:06 PM
I think we can all agree that David Gilmore would not drop it like it's not
 
2013-04-02 01:02:06 PM
I think we can all agree that David Gilmore would not drop it like it's hot

/FTFM
 
2013-04-02 01:26:45 PM
I think we can all agree that David Gilmour would not drop it like it's hot.

/FTFY

Also, Momentary Lapse has not aged well in its non-rapping form, not that it was very good to start with. Way too many cooks in the kitchen and too much crappy glossy 80s production.
 
2013-04-02 01:27:20 PM
Learning to Fly for a White Guy?
 
2013-04-02 01:51:51 PM
Cymbaline is kind of like rap.
 
2013-04-02 02:13:08 PM

BKITU: Learning to Fly for a White Guy?


Only if you keep 'em separated.

wat?
 
2013-04-02 02:16:49 PM

BKITU: Learning to Fly for a White Guy?


Into the distance, a ribbon of black, motherfarker
Stretched to the point of no turning back, motherfarker
Flight of fancy on a windswept field, motherfarker 
Standing alone, my senses reel, motherfarker 
Fatal attraction that's holding me fast, motherfarker 
Now, can't escape this irresistible grasp, motherfarker 
Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, motherfarker 
Tongue-tied and twisted; just an earth-bound misfit, motherfarker

// doesn't have the same ring
// and yes, I know there is far more to rap than adding "motherfarker" to every line
// but recall - this was 1987, when rap was "speaking in a tortured rhythm" (I caught "U Can't Touch This" on the radio yesterday afternoon - good god, the "rap" section at the end is awful)
// unless you're NWA or Tupac (who turned 16 in 1987), your rap in the 80s probably sucked
 
2013-04-02 02:24:44 PM
Yo yo yo, way far out, a black motherfarking ribbon
Stretched like a mufrkka aint' no way back, nubian
Flyin' through the air, flossin' that shiat
I'm lampin' on the corner, straight up trippin'
Fatal attraction got my ass on lockdown
I can't move because I'm trapped

I'm peepin' the skies like oh my god
Tongue tied and twisted, got me insane in the membrane

My wings are all iced, blinged out
My nubians didn't warn a brother, i thought I flipped the script
My homie don't know the godamn way home
My hands are all empty and I'm still like a statue
My soul got the Five Oh on it but I'm tryin' to glide
Po-po got me grounded but I'ma show these biatches I can fly (and you know this, maaaaan)

Aint' no motherfarkin feelin like this in the whole damn world
I'm floatin' like Snoop, blazin' vaporizin' that OG kush

Columbia Records, that's whats up, that's how we do, biatches
Yo Roger, tell me how my ass tastes
Yo Nick, gimme a jeep beat!  Bring that beat back,son
Ricky Dubs, drop some motherfarking melody
Love and respect to my main nubian Siddy B! Getcha head right, kid
PEACE AND CHICKEN GREASE
*slams mic down*
 
2013-04-02 02:38:06 PM
I'm torn on this. While rappng on a Pink Floyd record would have made the already mediocre aMLoR even worse, a philosophical middle-aged Englishman attempting it might have actually killed rap and saved us from it.
 
2013-04-02 02:44:35 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-02 02:45:46 PM
 
2013-04-02 02:46:42 PM
Come to think about it, "One of These Days" could almost work as a rap song. If you just rip its soul out.
 
2013-04-02 02:48:40 PM

LewDux: Link


I presume you weren't trying to get us to watch all 57 minutes of that. Cause I gotta be somewhere in 26 minutes.
 
2013-04-02 02:51:16 PM
If only the Rush guys could have seen so clearly with Roll the Bones...
 
2013-04-02 02:51:29 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: LewDux: Link

I presume you weren't trying to get us to watch all 57 minutes of that. Cause I gotta be somewhere in 26 minutes.


Punchline Is worth it
 
2013-04-02 02:55:06 PM

BKITU: Learning to Fly for a White Guy?


You made me chortle
 
2013-04-02 02:58:15 PM
another good example of proto-White Boy rap rock is Peter Murphy's 1989ish "Cuts You Up" album, there's a track towards the end with this weird, staccato spoken word part halfway throught the song that I can only think was an abortive attempt at what was then, a genre in its relative infancy*.

something like, "he was a good looking man stepped to me in his suit and I said to him get away from me and then we all contemplate our lives...."  this weird thing that sounds like proto-rap.


*to be contrasted with Bono's spoken word bit in 'Bullet The Blue Sky' which, while rhythmic, does not sound like him trying to rap.
 
2013-04-02 03:06:59 PM
I'd like him to give the proper response to letting Pink Floyd's music be in Rocksmith, which is "sure".
 
2013-04-02 03:13:16 PM
Deep Purple without Jon Lord?  No thanks.
 
2013-04-02 03:13:56 PM

LewDux: [25.media.tumblr.com image 501x333]


That is worth the time to see.
 
2013-04-02 03:19:08 PM

zackthebass: If only the Rush guys could have seen so clearly with Roll the Bones...


Respectfully, we disagree.
3.bp.blogspot.com

It took nothing away from an outstanding album.
 
2013-04-02 03:28:51 PM
One Sip (of the Purple Drank)
The Dogs of Sizzurp
 
2013-04-02 03:48:10 PM
I'm old enough to find Pink Floyd's best music included Syd Barrett.

/But I have no trouble with rap.
//And I like crossovers
 
2013-04-02 03:48:21 PM
rickythepenguin:
PEACE AND CHICKEN GREASE
*slams mic down*


I award you One Internet, sir.
 
2013-04-02 03:50:32 PM

rickythepenguin: another good example of proto-White Boy rap rock is Peter Murphy's 1989ish "Cuts You Up" album, there's a track towards the end with this weird, staccato spoken word part halfway throught the song that I can only think was an abortive attempt at what was then, a genre in its relative infancy*.

something like, "he was a good looking man stepped to me in his suit and I said to him get away from me and then we all contemplate our lives...."  this weird thing that sounds like proto-rap.


*to be contrasted with Bono's spoken word bit in 'Bullet The Blue Sky' which, while rhythmic, does not sound like him trying to rap.


What about Zappa's 'rapping' (i.e., Dina Moe Humm circa 1974). Same with I'm The Slime.

/I am gross and perverted, I'm obsessed and deranged
 
2013-04-02 03:53:41 PM
I put my Jimmy Page in so deep it put her Barrett to sleep
 
2013-04-02 03:55:17 PM

Dr Dreidel: // but recall - this was 1987, when rap was "speaking in a tortured rhythm" (I caught "U Can't Touch This" on the radio yesterday afternoon - good god, the "rap" section at the end is awful)
// unless you're NWA or Tupac (who turned 16 in 1987), your rap in the 80s probably sucked


1) U Can't Touch This came out in 1990, 2) It sucked.

There's plenty of good 80's rap out there.

BDP
Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
Slick Rick
De La Soul
Geto Boys
Big Daddy Kane
LL Cool J
Etc, Etc....
 
2013-04-02 04:06:48 PM

mjones73: 1) U Can't Touch This came out in 1990, 2) It sucked.

There's plenty of good 80's rap out there.

BDP
Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
Slick Rick
De La Soul
Geto Boys
Big Daddy Kane
LL Cool J
Etc, Etc....


Your list includes neither Tone Loc, nor Biz Markie.  Therefore it is invalid.  I shall only grant the egregious overlook of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, as they were in the 1990s.
 
2013-04-02 04:10:08 PM

Duck_of_Doom: mjones73: 1) U Can't Touch This came out in 1990, 2) It sucked.

There's plenty of good 80's rap out there.

BDP
Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
Slick Rick
De La Soul
Geto Boys
Big Daddy Kane
LL Cool J
Etc, Etc....

Your list includes neither Tone Loc, nor Biz Markie.  Therefore it is invalid.  I shall only grant the egregious overlook of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, as they were in the 1990s.


Ha, I named a few off the top of my head, both of them are welcome on my list.
 
2013-04-02 04:12:32 PM
I can add

The Jungle Brothers
The DOC
Ice-T
Run-DMC
MC Lyte
Special Ed
Nice & Smooth
Gangstarr

Feel free to add your own.
 
2013-04-02 04:14:57 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I put my Jimmy Page in so deep it put her Barrett to sleep


I have to say that is a good post. ;-)
 
2013-04-02 04:31:51 PM

mjones73: I can add

The Jungle Brothers
The DOC
Ice-T
Run-DMC
MC Lyte
Special Ed
Nice & Smooth
Gangstarr

Feel free to add your own.


No love for krs-one?
 
2013-04-02 04:34:14 PM

mjones73: There's plenty of good 80's rap out there.


You'll have to forgive me, I was 9 when 1990 hit. All I know of rap from that era is NWA/Public Enemy, and the Run DMC-type stuff was a bit too cheesy (even then; though I like me some Christmas in Hollis and several other DMC tracks). The rest of your list is either descendent of one of those groups (Ice-T specifically), or I've never heard of them - which isn't saying much, as I tend to think of rap before the Tupac-Biggie era as "NWA/PE and associated acts" (actually, the same way I think of the 80s as being "NWA/PE era", which comes shortly before the G-Funk era).

And yes, I know Can't Touch This sucked, it's an example of how pop-infused rap sucked even 3 years after 1987 (the implication being it would have sucked more in 1987).

Anyway, the point of all this is that you should never take rap advice from a dude who calls himself "Dreidel" and adds a fake doctorate, even if the handle is something of a shout-out to my homie Dr Dre.

// we had the same Rabbi in middle school
 
2013-04-02 04:43:08 PM
Meh....Guns 'n Roses re-defined white boy rap at the end of Use Your Illusion II....
 
2013-04-02 04:47:44 PM

b0rscht: What about Zappa's 'rapping' (i.e., Dina Moe Humm circa 1974). Same with I'm The Slime.



i can't stand Zappa's music so I'm not familiar with either.

/though he did have one of the all-time great rock quotes, on rock journalism:  "rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, then writing for people who can't read."
 
2013-04-02 04:55:30 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Come to think about it, "One of These Days" could almost work as a rap song. If you just rip its soul out.


I always thought that song would have been great in an electric-bluegrass style, with a real redneck "vocal"

/one of these dem-there deys', i'm gonna cut ya into litl' peeces'
 
2013-04-02 05:33:26 PM
Lou Reed
 
2013-04-02 05:33:55 PM
Rap or no rap that album was not good. But those songs gave me time to go to the can when I saw them live in the late 80's.


/Best Pink Floyd record is "Animals"
//for me anyways
 
2013-04-02 05:36:51 PM
Dr Dreidel:

// and yes, I know there is far more to rap than adding "motherfarker" to every line
// but recall - this was 1987, when rap was "speaking in a tortured rhythm" (I caught "U Can't Touch This" on the radio yesterday afternoon - good god, the "rap" section at the end is awful)
// unless you're NWA or Tupac (who turned 16 in 1987), your rap in the 80s probably sucked


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-02 05:37:58 PM
Go listen to "Hard to Handle" "Turn on Your Lovelight" from early 70's Grateful Dead on Archive.org that is a white rapper over rock beats...now get the fark off the lawn

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-02 05:44:19 PM

orange whip: Go listen to "Hard to Handle" "Turn on Your Lovelight" from early 70's Grateful Dead on Archive.org that is a white rapper over rock beats...now get the fark off the lawn

[upload.wikimedia.org image 590x516]


"I know you didn't come here just stand here, with yo' han' in YO' POCKET, with yo' face lookin' ALL like a fool!  Go find a girl and talk to her, man!  Don't just stand there playin' pocket pool!  Hey!  Hey man!  Her right there!  Go talk to her!"

/"pigpen, did you just say 'fark'?"
//"one man gathers what another man....spillls."  "Except in California!"
 
2013-04-02 06:26:40 PM
Jesus, that was close.
 
2013-04-02 06:32:19 PM
BTW, "Learning to Fly" is a boring song.The only two bearable Moment tracks were "On the Turning Away" and the even better "Sorrow", IMHO.
 
2013-04-02 06:50:39 PM

orange whip: /Best Pink Floyd record is "Animals"
//for me anyways


I bounce between Animals and Dark Side of The Moon, with Wish You Were Here always in the place. The wife likes Animals best.
 
2013-04-02 06:54:00 PM

Ed Grubermann: orange whip: /Best Pink Floyd record is "Animals"
//for me anyways

I bounce between Animals and Dark Side of The Moon, with Wish You Were Here always in the place. The wife likes Animals best.


WYWH is my absolute fave album by any artist. But I'm weird.
 
2013-04-02 07:08:15 PM
On da turnin 'round
From the motherf*ckin O-pressed
Theys words what we won't understand, ho
"Don't just take it inna ass
make a b*tch hurt, sufferin
Or you be joinin the man
jus' turnin 'round"

It's a motherf*ckin sin
Whitey is drinkin our gin
And loopin his rope over what we have knowed
In the 'hood our gangs have growed
We be driven motherf*ckin wild,
wit our hearts of stone
Now we know we ain't all alone: East Coast Killas!
Now we know we ain't all alone: West Coast Thrillas!
We dream, we proud!

On the wangs of the night: we rollin
As the daytime is stirrin: we rollin
Where the speechless unite in a silent accord: we ballin
Using words you will find are whack: we ballin
Mesmerised as they light the flame, f*ck you
Feel the new wind of change, cracker
On the wangs of the night

No mo' turnin 'round
From the tweeked an' tha skeezy
No mo' turnin from the cold white lie
These Air Jordans we all must wear
It ain't enough to just stand there and stare
Maybe it's a dream but he had a dream and we gots'a dream an you do too
an you do too-oo
you do too-oo
you do too
No mo' turnin 'round, sh*****t.
 
2013-04-02 07:17:31 PM
Every time I watch the accompanying Pink Floyd video, I'm reminded of Bill Hicks admonition: "If you think you can fly, try it from the ground first."
 
2013-04-02 07:26:20 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Ed Grubermann: orange whip: /Best Pink Floyd record is "Animals"
//for me anyways

I bounce between Animals and Dark Side of The Moon, with Wish You Were Here always in the place. The wife likes Animals best.

WYWH is my absolute fave album by any artist. But I'm weird.


Throw Meddle into the mix an you've got my top four favorites.

Also, for those of you that wouldn't mind hearing something Froggy:

Pigs on the Wing, I
Dogs
Pigs (Three Different Ones)
Sheep
Pigs on the Wing, II
The Flying Frog Brigade Rocks it...
 
2013-04-02 08:02:14 PM
Infooorrrrmer
eelushacalablahadelaformquiero
a licky boom boom down
 
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