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2013-04-02 09:28:35 AM
He's trying to stop the spread of Guido Syndrome.

I'm OK with this.
 
2013-04-02 09:40:26 AM
In other news, there apparently wasn't an age requirement on tanning beds in NJ.
 
2013-04-02 09:49:49 AM
oh noes save me oh benevolent despot!
 
2013-04-02 09:50:14 AM
I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.
 
2013-04-02 09:50:17 AM
Why is this stupid? I can't believe it was legal before.
 
2013-04-02 09:50:29 AM
This will only lead to back-alley tanning booths and more senseless spray-tan inhalation deaths.
 
2013-04-02 09:51:30 AM

the8re: This will only lead to back-alley tanning booths and more senseless spray-tan inhalation deaths.


Thus adding some much needed chlorine to the gene pool.
 
2013-04-02 09:51:35 AM
This offends and horrifies me:

"Governmental regulation of the private sector should always be carefully scrutinized, and sparingly adopted," he said in a statement. "The new restrictions imposed by this bill followed a single but breathlessly reported incident of a parent bringing a minor child into a tanning facility."

He flat out just said, essentially, "We know government regulation should be restricted, but there's this one time something happened that you guys made bunch of noise about, so we're ignoring common sense and scientific evidence and making a blanket ban because the media made us look bad when it happened on single time."

That's disgusting.  Yes, things can be abused.  Tanning booths are addictive light therapy.  We know that.  However, dosage still does matter, and zero still isn't the correct safe limit.
 
2013-04-02 09:51:52 AM
If tag is for subby, I concur.
 
2013-04-02 09:52:51 AM
Is laser vaginal rejuvenation still legal?
 
2013-04-02 09:53:25 AM
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2013-04-02 09:54:06 AM
cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-04-02 09:54:37 AM
We get it subby, he's fat.

He's also the best thing to happen to New Jersey since it was called Olde Jersey.
 
2013-04-02 09:55:02 AM
I'm ok with this.  There are too many people who think tanning booths are safe.
 
2013-04-02 09:55:46 AM

Mr Guy: This offends and horrifies me:

"Governmental regulation of the private sector should always be carefully scrutinized, and sparingly adopted," he said in a statement. "The new restrictions imposed by this bill followed a single but breathlessly reported incident of a parent bringing a minor child into a tanning facility."

He flat out just said, essentially, "We know government regulation should be restricted, but there's this one time something happened that you guys made bunch of noise about, so we're ignoring common sense and scientific evidence and making a blanket ban because the media made us look bad when it happened on single time."

That's disgusting.  Yes, things can be abused.  Tanning booths are addictive light therapy.  We know that.  However, dosage still does matter, and zero still isn't the correct safe limit.


Wut? Christie noted the skin cancer risk and also that tanning before age 35 has been shown to increase the risk for melanoma by 75 percent.
 
2013-04-02 09:56:05 AM

GAT_00: In other news, there apparently wasn't an age requirement on tanning beds in NJ.


I bet there's no age minimum for tanning beds in a lot more places then NJ.
 
2013-04-02 09:59:21 AM
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2013-04-02 09:59:24 AM

xanadian: He's trying to stop the spread of Guido Syndrome.

I'm OK with this.


Those poor guido children (guidlets?) will be left with nothing to do but gym and laundry.
 
2013-04-02 10:01:48 AM

GalFriday: I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.


You mean elective plastic surgery, correct?

When I was 10, I fell off a chair rack and split my chin - needed 13 stitches (I'm actually surprised that they didn't go 14 for superstitious reasons. Yes, hospitals can be weird like that) and some minor plastic surgery to fix.

// CSB
// I suppose I could live with a bigger scar, especially since I wear a beard now, but I was 10; my folks did the decidering
// bonus: happened in NJ
 
2013-04-02 10:02:26 AM
But they can still lay out in the sun right? Dumbass, becomming a Bloomberg
 
2013-04-02 10:04:35 AM
GalFriday


I am OK with this. Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

Oh god this. I am all about American freedom but those in the medical industry should be required to slap the shiat out of any parent who is interested in this.
 
2013-04-02 10:05:52 AM
I love the smell of partisan derangement in the morning.
 
2013-04-02 10:06:00 AM
Under the new law, youth age 17 and older must have a parent or guardian present for an initial consultation with a tanning salon.

Wouldn't that just be age 17? 18 was an adult the last time I checked. Or is the nanny state now saying you are a minor until you are 21 when it comes to tanning?
 
2013-04-02 10:07:00 AM

GalFriday: I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.


What particular problem are you trying to stop?
 
2013-04-02 10:07:10 AM
It was more of a payload issue, the children of conservatives are generally obese.
 
2013-04-02 10:07:48 AM
 
2013-04-02 10:08:03 AM

pedrop357: GalFriday: I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

What particular problem are you trying to stop?


Fake tits...
 
2013-04-02 10:08:18 AM

Dr Dreidel: GalFriday: I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

You mean elective plastic surgery, correct?

When I was 10, I fell off a chair rack and split my chin - needed 13 stitches (I'm actually surprised that they didn't go 14 for superstitious reasons. Yes, hospitals can be weird like that) and some minor plastic surgery to fix.

// CSB
// I suppose I could live with a bigger scar, especially since I wear a beard now, but I was 10; my folks did the decidering
// bonus: happened in NJ


I read a case of a 13 year-old in New Jersey that wanted breast implants and her parents were going to let her have it.  The doctor refused as she wasn't done developing and the parents were suing the doctor.  That is what I mean.
I was burnt at the age of 11 and have to have two plastic surgeries - granted it was in Illinois, and I think that type of surgery is OK.  But breast implants for 13 year olds should be outlawed.
 
2013-04-02 10:08:38 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: GalFriday


I am OK with this. Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

Oh god this. I am all about American freedom but those in the medical industry should be required to slap the shiat out of any parent who is interested in this.


So a child with a deformity from birth should not be able to have it removed or reduced/made less obvious by a plastic surgeon?
 
2013-04-02 10:08:51 AM

Joe Blowme: But they can still lay out in the sun right? Dumbass, becomming a Bloomberg

 
Pretty firect proven correlation between tanning beds, age of use, and future rates of skin cancer. I tend to agree though, parents' choice.
 
2013-04-02 10:10:04 AM

Walker: Under the new law, youth age 17 and older must have a parent or guardian present for an initial consultation with a tanning salon.

Wouldn't that just be age 17? 18 was an adult the last time I checked. Or is the nanny state now saying you are a minor until you are 21 when it comes to tanning?


Or, you know, it's a farkup in the article. But you go ahead and be mad.
 
2013-04-02 10:10:14 AM
List of stupid things done by Chris Christie:

Laying off thousands of teachers
Violating employment contracts
Using public money to maintain private beaches
Doling out millions of dollars in casino subsidies
Giving out millions in tax breaks for companies to move their headquarters two blocks away from their current location
Screwing up the paperwork for hundreds of millions of dollars in education grants
Taking a shortcut on tranportation funding applications, later reneging on the agreement, and consequently spending hundreds of millions of dollars on nothing
Failing to put a dent in New Jersey's unemployment rate while the rest of the region and country experience recoveries
Trumping up an investigation into Bob Menendez to keep his job as US Attorney
Taking a helicopter to get from his couch to the bathroom
Having that seventh slice of pizza

...Nope. Nothing about protecting kids from cancer.
 
2013-04-02 10:10:34 AM

The Snow Dog: Wut? Christie noted the skin cancer risk and also that tanning before age 35 has been shown to increase the risk for melanoma by 75 percent.


That's ALWAYS been the problem with tanning booths.  They study them as if there was only two options, being wrapped up in a blanket internally with no sun exposures vs full blast tan to orange every day.  They even pretend that just because the focus of the devices is UV light, that they don't emit any visible light.  Look at the delusion in arguments against using tanning booths as light therapy.  They point out UV light on your body isn't light therapy, but ignore all the visible light that tanning booths produce, and the fact that actually studying in a controlled way yields the predicted therapeutic benefits.

They study tanning booths like there's no moderate way to properly hydrate or to eat the correct nutrients to protect your skin, get a small amount of exposure to UV and intense visible light and heat that modern office and school schedules have restricted, and have a normal healthy life.  We've become scared of cancer, while engaging in ridiculously excessive behavior, and then try to demonize devices that allow you to control your dosage more precisely.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:06 AM

netcentric: pedrop357: GalFriday: I am OK with this.  Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

What particular problem are you trying to stop?

Fake tits...


Then perhaps the focus could be narrowed to breast implants and not plastic surgery as a whole.  Even elective plastic surgery covers a lot more procedures than just fake breasts and butt implants.

All sorts of birth defects can be removed/corrected/blended with plastic surgery.

Nose jobs have done wonders for people's self esteem especially when the old nose had an unusual shape, angle, or was uncentered.
 
2013-04-02 10:11:20 AM
But what about the salad bars?  Some people let their little shiats use salad bars and buffets unattended...*&^%$#@!
 
2013-04-02 10:14:01 AM

GAT_00: In other news, there apparently wasn't an age requirement on tanning beds in NJ.


Nope.  You could buy them brand-new.
 
2013-04-02 10:14:48 AM

Mr Guy: The Snow Dog: Wut? Christie noted the skin cancer risk and also that tanning before age 35 has been shown to increase the risk for melanoma by 75 percent.

That's ALWAYS been the problem with tanning booths.  They study them as if there was only two options, being wrapped up in a blanket internally with no sun exposures vs full blast tan to orange every day.  They even pretend that just because the focus of the devices is UV light, that they don't emit any visible light.  Look at the delusion in arguments against using tanning booths as light therapy.  They point out UV light on your body isn't light therapy, but ignore all the visible light that tanning booths produce, and the fact that actually studying in a controlled way yields the predicted therapeutic benefits.

They study tanning booths like there's no moderate way to properly hydrate or to eat the correct nutrients to protect your skin, get a small amount of exposure to UV and intense visible light and heat that modern office and school schedules have restricted, and have a normal healthy life.  We've become scared of cancer, while engaging in ridiculously excessive behavior, and then try to demonize devices that allow you to control your dosage more precisely.


Do you really want us to believe this is impacting people that need "light therapy"? If a kid required such a thing, their parents can just sign off on it.
 
2013-04-02 10:15:59 AM
"Under the new law, youth age 17 and older must have a parent or guardian present for an initial consultation with a tanning salon."

Pure cash grab.
 
2013-04-02 10:19:12 AM

GalFriday: I read a case of a 13 year-old in New Jersey that wanted breast implants and her parents were going to let her have it. The doctor refused as she wasn't done developing and the parents were suing the doctor. That is what I mean.


I figured. "Elective plastic surgery" = cosmetic procedures not done for any medical or therapeutic benefit.

My chin, your burn tissue and a poor kid's hare-lip are not "elective". Well, I suppose mine is the most "elective" of the 3, but from what I understand, it'd have thrown off much of my jaw's development (recall, I was 10, about to hit a growth spurt that would take me from 5'2 to 6'4 in 4 years) - and since they knew I was gonna need braces anyway, they didn't want anything else happening to fark it up.

Regarding breast augmentation, I went on a few dates with a girl who'd had one boob "done" - apparently, she was a B on the left and a C on the right (or vice-versa), and her insurance covered it (suggesting it's more than a simple elective cosmetic procedure). She was in her 20s when she had the surgery done, and I assume they wouldn't want to mess with the growing tissue until the boobs have fully...matured (pun intended), but if a 16 year old wanted that procedure?

I dunno, I tend to think of edge cases a lot. Would something like that qualify?

// didn't get to 2nd base
// which is fine, I think most fake boobs are an affront to our lord and savior, Charo
 
2013-04-02 10:20:09 AM
So it's not banning children under 17 they just need parent's permission.  How is this stopping someone like the tanning mom since that mom gave permission for her 5 year old.
 
2013-04-02 10:22:23 AM
I had severe eczema as a child.  Dermatologist prescribed UV, so Mom went to Woolworth's and bought a tanning light about the size of a toaster.  Mom died of cancer when I was 42.

I know that's just my anecdote but when you add up many anecdotes they must mean something.
 
2013-04-02 10:22:54 AM
Do kids need parental permission to get an abortion in NJ? If not, this law is even more ignorant than the new conn. gun laws.
 
2013-04-02 10:26:10 AM
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He just needs a base tan.
 
2013-04-02 10:26:11 AM

spentmiles: Is laser vaginal rejuvenation still legal?


In Kansas, it's required before you can get an abortion.
 
2013-04-02 10:28:43 AM

DubyaHater: I'm ok with this.  There are too many people who think tanning booths are safe.


No, there are too many kids with too much money.
 
2013-04-02 10:32:34 AM

TNel: So it's not banning children under 17 they just need parent's permission.  How is this stopping someone like the tanning mom since that mom gave permission for her 5 year old.


She did not.  The kid never entered a tanning booth.  Grand jury refused to indict her after ten months of lying bullshiat.
 
2013-04-02 10:33:11 AM
We can ban tanning booths to protect minors, but can't ban assault weapons to protect them.

/just sayin
 
2013-04-02 10:34:30 AM

Commie.  When the gummint starts helping with medical bills, all sorts of cancer causing fun gets banned.  You're no fun anymore.



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2013-04-02 10:34:33 AM
This just in, sometimes the government has to step in to protect children from blatantly obvious harm when the parents can't be bothered.

argylez: We can ban tanning booths to protect minors, but can't ban assault weapons to protect them.


Tanning beds kill more people than guns. Study it out.
 
2013-04-02 10:35:00 AM

pedrop357: Random Anonymous Blackmail: GalFriday


I am OK with this. Now if we could get him to ban plastic surgery for those under 17 even with parental consent, NJ would be a lot better.

Oh god this. I am all about American freedom but those in the medical industry should be required to slap the shiat out of any parent who is interested in this.

So a child with a deformity from birth should not be able to have it removed or reduced/made less obvious by a plastic surgeon?


The problem is defining what qualifies as a deformity and what is an acceptable variation. A cleft lip is obvious and needs correcting, but a giant honkin' schnoz? Bat ears? My first instinct is to say hell no to any sort of nose job before 18. But I knew a girl in high school with a nose... you did not see anything but the nose. I have never seen such a nose. It was not a Jennifer Grey nose, which was adorable. It was an epic nose elbow in the middle of her otherwise quite pretty face. She had it done as soon as doctors would do it - age 16. No one who knew her thought anything but "Good." Her quality of  life was improved by the surgery. I wouldn't deny her access, or make her wait two more formative years.

My youngest had a herniated bellybutton. When these are severe they need to be surgically corrected for medical reasons. Hers wasn't that bad, but it was obvious. After much thought we decided that we wouldn't risk anesthesia on a child just to fix that, but should she ever have to be under for anything else, we'd give it a little tuck at the same time. Simple procedure, but cosmetic and not a medical necessity. As she's grown it has self corrected, so we won't be doing anything. Now she has just the cutest outie. But if it hadn't, I wouldn't have liked telling her she had to wait until age 18 to fix the grape where her bellybutton should have been.
 
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