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2013-04-02 08:27:15 AM

The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"

Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.


We've talked both to them and their landlord. We've gotten a disinterested, "Wow, sorry man," before they retreat inside and avoid us.
 
2013-04-02 08:27:37 AM

jafiwam: This should be easy to solve.

Post on Craigslist, with the address, "free pot samples".

Every weed head and lowlife will show up looking for some hand out, smell the pot, then come back later and do a home invasion and clean the place out and perhaps, beat, maybe maim the annoying ass neighbors.

anybody who happens along at the wrong time.

Good plan.  After all, it's not as if drug users are known for being paranoid, not even when they're committing a crime.
 
2013-04-02 08:28:13 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"

Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.

We've talked both to them and their landlord. We've gotten a disinterested, "Wow, sorry man," before they retreat inside and avoid us.


Aphids it is then!  Twats.
 
2013-04-02 08:30:22 AM

The Snow Dog: BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.

And berries are fruit.


And all fruit are vegetables.  Seriously, can we please stop teaching kids that fruit and vegetables are mutually exclusive, especially since one is purely a culinary term, and the other is a generic scientific comparison.
 
2013-04-02 08:34:19 AM

The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"

Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.

We've talked both to them and their landlord. We've gotten a disinterested, "Wow, sorry man," before they retreat inside and avoid us.

Aphids it is then!  Twats.


Grow catnip in your front yard and by your front door.  It smells identical to the uninitiated, but repels mosquitoes and other biting insects.  Adding a fresh constant source of a similar smell will desensitize your nose, and if you quit obsessing about it, you'll quit noticing it, and when you do notice it, you can remind yourself that it's probably what you planted for your own benefit.
 
2013-04-02 08:44:01 AM

log_jammin: SDRR: I am struggling with the analog here...

I'm struggling to figure out why you're struggling.

I said "I'd think this is a zoning thing isn't it? They've essentially setup a business in a residential neighborhood" I said that because different areas are zoned for different things. Residential for housing, business for...business, agriculture for farms/etc..

Therefore, a person in a residential area might be upset when something not zoned for that area is suddenly next door to them. be it me upset about a smelly pig farm, or an aging yuppie clutching her pearls because she's "allergic" to the smell of a MJ growing business.


So, growing plants requires zoning? Really? Like my neighbor has shiatloads, and I mean shiatloads, of hibiscus in their yard. They farking stink and get pollen everywhere. I should have the county come out and make them cease and desist immediately!

/really?
 
2013-04-02 08:45:09 AM

Mr Guy: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"

Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.

We've talked both to them and their landlord. We've gotten a disinterested, "Wow, sorry man," before they retreat inside and avoid us.

Aphids it is then!  Twats.

Grow catnip in your front yard and by your front door.  It smells identical to the uninitiated, but repels mosquitoes and other biting insects.  Adding a fresh constant source of a similar smell will desensitize your nose, and if you quit obsessing about it, you'll quit noticing it, and when you do notice it, you can remind yourself that it's probably what you planted for your own benefit.


Yes, but then you get the pleasure of having many feral cats in your yard for a while, until it's gone.
 
2013-04-02 08:51:30 AM

SDRR: So, growing plants requires zoning? Really? Like my neighbor has shiatloads, and I mean shiatloads, of hibiscus in their yard. They farking stink and get pollen everywhere. I should have the county come out and make them cease and desist immediately!


If they're growing for other people -- selling to dispensaries -- they're running a business. It's not illegal to grow flowers in your yard, but it can be a zoning issue if you're growing them to supply to florists.
 
2013-04-02 09:01:52 AM

jafiwam: This should be easy to solve.

Post on Craigslist, with the address, "free pot samples".

Every weed head and lowlife will show up looking for some hand out, smell the pot, then come back later and do a home invasion and clean the place out and perhaps, beat, maybe maim the annoying ass neighbors.


It's weed, not crack.

Stoners won't even get off the couch if there's a fire. At most, they'll go to the kitchen to get some marshmallows.
 
2013-04-02 09:04:17 AM
I keep seeing "chicken farm" and "hog farm" bantied about in this thread.  Have any of you that compared the smell of MJ growing to one of these operations actually encountered one?

The smell of animal waste on a hot day in no way compares.  In my city we have a company called Union Bag.  The stench from their business permeates the entire region...the fumes are noxious.

But it still doesn't compare to animal waste.
 
2013-04-02 09:16:57 AM

SDRR: So, growing plants requires zoning?


WOW. apparently English isn't your first language.
 
2013-04-02 09:27:34 AM
Great another pot thread. I was hoping all 111 comments would be related to Subby's poor grammar.
 
2013-04-02 09:31:32 AM

jafiwam: Every weed head and lowlife will show up looking for some hand out, smell the pot, then come back later and do a home invasion and clean the place out and perhaps, beat, maybe maim the annoying ass neighbors.


As a "weed head" I can tell you there's no way I'm pulling a home invasion unless there are lily-white biatches there to rape while I'm all hopped up on the reefer.
 
2013-04-02 09:32:45 AM
I like the smell ov vanilla cream and chocolate cream pie cooking too, but after awhile it gets pretty farking old. Same with pot plants.

/used to grow my own
 
2013-04-02 09:46:04 AM
Not liking pot is unamerican!
 
2013-04-02 09:47:39 AM
Where are the responsible potheads?

I'm sure body pleasure drugs don't make people more selfish. It just can't be!
 
2013-04-02 09:52:55 AM

Arthur Jumbles: Zoning laws? If the area isn't zoned for agriculture you might be able to kick the smelly bastards out. Alternatively, price out the cost to install an air filtration system for their grow operation and tell them they can either spend the money buying the air purifier or they can give it to their lawyer when you sue them.


Yep, this.

I'm fine with pot, but I don't smoke and it makes the SO go to sleep (didn't used to, but now it does).  And in general, not a fan of the smell.  Experienced it enough just in college (I lived in a co-op and had to fight to ban pot smoking in the front/living room - one damn room - so it wasn't so damn obvious when people had parents visiting).

Have some common courtesy/discretion, pot smokers/growers.  It'll go a long damn way.

/those of you who do, thanks!
 
2013-04-02 09:59:28 AM

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: I'm a native American

A woo woo native American or a dot native American?


Italian/Norwegian native American.  I said I was born in Chicago.
 
2013-04-02 10:02:56 AM

sodomizer: Where are the responsible potheads?

I'm sure body pleasure drugs don't make people more selfish. It just can't be!


They don't show up in the news.  Just like normal people from Florida (both of them).
 
2013-04-02 10:08:06 AM

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.


To be fair, tomatoes are a fruit (thus leading to things like this).  The ketchup-as-vegetable thing is stupidity run rampant from the days of Reagan.

I don't think we necessarily need new laws concerning the home growing of dank buds, just handle them the same way as we handle neighborhood nuisances.
 
2013-04-02 10:17:27 AM

REO-Weedwagon: jafiwam: Every weed head and lowlife will show up looking for some hand out, smell the pot, then come back later and do a home invasion and clean the place out and perhaps, beat, maybe maim the annoying ass neighbors.

As a "weed head" I can tell you there's no way I'm pulling a home invasion unless there are lily-white biatches there to rape while I'm all hopped up on the reefer.


You sound like a jazz musician.
 
2013-04-02 10:20:32 AM

untaken_name: Mr Guy: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: The Envoy: Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"

Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.

We've talked both to them and their landlord. We've gotten a disinterested, "Wow, sorry man," before they retreat inside and avoid us.

Aphids it is then!  Twats.

Grow catnip in your front yard and by your front door.  It smells identical to the uninitiated, but repels mosquitoes and other biting insects.  Adding a fresh constant source of a similar smell will desensitize your nose, and if you quit obsessing about it, you'll quit noticing it, and when you do notice it, you can remind yourself that it's probably what you planted for your own benefit.

Yes, but then you get the pleasure of having many feral cats in your yard for a while, until it's gone.


Also, flowering/blooming catnip is a bee magnet.
 
2013-04-02 10:21:33 AM
My mom pretends she is hurt when her neighbors burn leaves.  My youngest brother, who spent an extra 10 years with the parents after the other two of use grew up and left and after the parents started getting weird, also has this metal affliction where anything he smells that he doesn't like magically also makes him feel ill.  Cigarette smoke was fine when he was a smoker, but once he quit he couldn't stand the odor.  Just like the P's taught him to be.
 
2013-04-02 10:27:41 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.


Berries are fruit.

Intelligence is knowing that tomatoes are fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put them on ice cream.
 
2013-04-02 10:29:58 AM

Mr Guy: Grow catnip in your front yard and by your front door. It smells identical to the uninitiated, but repels mosquitoes and other biting insects. Adding a fresh constant source of a similar smell will desensitize your nose, and if you quit obsessing about it, you'll quit noticing it, and when you do notice it, you can remind yourself that it's probably what you planted for your own benefit.


You mistake me.  I love the smell.  I used to smoke a lot until my little one came along necessitating a break, during which I realised that I wasn't just as effective as I would be without it and decided to only smoke as a treat.  So long story short, I'd be sniffing the breeze constantly and would be purchasing the few times a year I allow myself to smoke!  I just think that all inconsiderate neighbours are twats regardless of the issue they're being twats about.

sodomizer: Where are the responsible potheads?

I'm sure body pleasure drugs don't make people more selfish. It just can't be!


You've been here 6 months and this is the best you can do still?  That's sad.
 
2013-04-02 10:31:41 AM

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?

No. We just stop dealing with it at all. Wash our hands of the whole thing.

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But it gets you high? What if you're driving or something? DUI already applies to all intoxicants, not just alcohol. Got it covered.

What if my neighbor sets up a full scale growing operation? Zoning laws, got it covered.

What if kids smoke it and get all farked up? Child endangerment laws, got it covered.

What if someone smokes it in public? No smoking laws, got it covered.

There's nothing marijuana does that isn't already legislated, often over legislated. Just let the people smoke their sticky icky. If it was bad for you, Willie Nelson and Snoop Dogg would have been dead in the 80's.


Not to mention the last three Presidents.
 
2013-04-02 10:32:00 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.




Berries are fruit like humans are primates.

Sophistry!!!!
 
2013-04-02 10:34:19 AM
I agree.  There does need to be one more law.

Any person reporting a grow operation that in fact turns out to be a legal, registered grow operation, who then turns to the media and identifies the grower (who has a legal card granted for a medical condition, something HIPAA might care about if the feds didn't have a severe case of rectal-cranial inversion), that person should be charged with a misdemeanor for harassment.
 
2013-04-02 10:35:44 AM
Dave's not here.
 
2013-04-02 10:57:26 AM

martissimo: The comments on their website links to a first story about these people complaining. They sound like they are just trying to be assholes, the lady says her face "gets paralyzed", they even complain that the smell makes one of their dogs hack and cough, and another one sneeze a lot.

yeah right


Bullshiat. I love the smell of growing pot.

BTW, minor threadjack: those of you who smoke cigarettes. do you ever notice that, very occasionally, you will get a cig where one or two puffs smell like week?
 
2013-04-02 10:59:37 AM

Big_Fat_Liar: My mom pretends she is hurt when her neighbors burn leaves.  My youngest brother, who spent an extra 10 years with the parents after the other two of use grew up and left and after the parents started getting weird, also has this metal affliction where anything he smells that he doesn't like magically also makes him feel ill.  Cigarette smoke was fine when he was a smoker, but once he quit he couldn't stand the odor.  Just like the P's taught him to be.


You know, I've been looking into this as a function of improving my breathing in my sinuses and trying to expand my diet to include new flavors I'm less familiar with.  I can say this for a fact:  the muscles that expand your sinus cavity to resonate for singing or to open it up when you are deliberately trying to smell something have a direct and profound influence on your gag reflex.  I've had a horrible gag reflex and terrible sinus congestion my whole life, and I've come a loooooong way in fixing both by deliberately strengthening those muscles.  If he's deliberately trying NOT to smell something, he's probably taught himself to clench the back of soft palate, that'll trigger his gag reflex, which will cause him to lock his stomach.  Once your stomach muscles are braced, the brain interprets that feedback as nausea/anxiety, and it can get progressively worse, fast.

That's why the "cure" that forensic scientists and cops use is deliberate wide smile faced breathing.  It forces you to disengage the muscles closing up your nostrils and braces your airway open in the back, releasing the gag reflex.

I learned to the same trick for foods that I don't like the smell of.  You deliberately TRY and smell for a scent you recognize, and focus on that. Keeping deliberately inhaling will head off those cycles and keep your body from trying to protect itself.
 
2013-04-02 11:04:23 AM

Mr Guy: Big_Fat_Liar: My mom pretends she is hurt when her neighbors burn leaves.  My youngest brother, who spent an extra 10 years with the parents after the other two of use grew up and left and after the parents started getting weird, also has this metal affliction where anything he smells that he doesn't like magically also makes him feel ill.  Cigarette smoke was fine when he was a smoker, but once he quit he couldn't stand the odor.  Just like the P's taught him to be.

You know, I've been looking into this as a function of improving my breathing in my sinuses and trying to expand my diet to include new flavors I'm less familiar with.  I can say this for a fact:  the muscles that expand your sinus cavity to resonate for singing or to open it up when you are deliberately trying to smell something have a direct and profound influence on your gag reflex.  I've had a horrible gag reflex and terrible sinus congestion my whole life, and I've come a loooooong way in fixing both by deliberately strengthening those muscles.  If he's deliberately trying NOT to smell something, he's probably taught himself to clench the back of soft palate, that'll trigger his gag reflex, which will cause him to lock his stomach.  Once your stomach muscles are braced, the brain interprets that feedback as nausea/anxiety, and it can get progressively worse, fast.

That's why the "cure" that forensic scientists and cops use is deliberate wide smile faced breathing.  It forces you to disengage the muscles closing up your nostrils and braces your airway open in the back, releasing the gag reflex.

I learned to the same trick for foods that I don't like the smell of.  You deliberately TRY and smell for a scent you recognize, and focus on that. Keeping deliberately inhaling will head off those cycles and keep your body from trying to protect itself.


This is actually incredibly useful information for me.  While it was posted for somebody else, I thank you for sharing it (I now have new things to research).
 
2013-04-02 11:09:06 AM
Just Another OC Homeless Guy

Yes. I have smelled that too. Mostly in Marlboros. What causes that?
 
2013-04-02 11:15:03 AM

Mr Guy: Big_Fat_Liar: My mom pretends she is hurt when her neighbors burn leaves.  My youngest brother, who spent an extra 10 years with the parents after the other two of use grew up and left and after the parents started getting weird, also has this metal affliction where anything he smells that he doesn't like magically also makes him feel ill.  Cigarette smoke was fine when he was a smoker, but once he quit he couldn't stand the odor.  Just like the P's taught him to be.

You know, I've been looking into this as a function of improving my breathing in my sinuses and trying to expand my diet to include new flavors I'm less familiar with.  I can say this for a fact:  the muscles that expand your sinus cavity to resonate for singing or to open it up when you are deliberately trying to smell something have a direct and profound influence on your gag reflex.  I've had a horrible gag reflex and terrible sinus congestion my whole life, and I've come a loooooong way in fixing both by deliberately strengthening those muscles.  If he's deliberately trying NOT to smell something, he's probably taught himself to clench the back of soft palate, that'll trigger his gag reflex, which will cause him to lock his stomach.  Once your stomach muscles are braced, the brain interprets that feedback as nausea/anxiety, and it can get progressively worse, fast.

That's why the "cure" that forensic scientists and cops use is deliberate wide smile faced breathing.  It forces you to disengage the muscles closing up your nostrils and braces your airway open in the back, releasing the gag reflex.

I learned to the same trick for foods that I don't like the smell of.  You deliberately TRY and smell for a scent you recognize, and focus on that. Keeping deliberately inhaling will head off those cycles and keep your body from trying to protect itself.




w.reelcelebs.com
 
2013-04-02 11:21:04 AM

WTFDYW: Yes. I have smelled that too. Mostly in Marlboros. What causes that?


Growing up in NC, I'm going to guess you get a little less cured tobacco in the mix, probably tossed in there to lighten the smell up.  Tobacco is actually really oddly sweet smelling.

vicioushobbit: This is actually incredibly useful information for me. While it was posted for somebody else, I thank you for sharing it (I now have new things to research).


It seems weird, but spend a little time with your eyes closed humming to yourself and feeling around with what muscles you can flex internally in your head.  You can actually direct the vibration of the humming around in your head to help you focus, and learn to pick out the muscles consciously that you're subconsciously using, and actually hear and feel the vibrations from mucus and infections sticking to internal surfaces.  The trick I use is to remember that the body is designed to do things by recreating patterns.  We have a nasty habit of trying to focus on what we don't want the body to do, but we work better if you learn to focus on the "correct" sensation.  For example, smile as hard as you can in the mirror, like Obama just declare that you personally don't have to pay taxes, and all the taxes other people pay will instead be delivered to you by attractive nude members of the appropriate sex.  Look where you flush blood to the surface, and where you don't.  Where you don't, put two fingers gently on the skin, and figure out how to flex into those fingers without moving the rest of your head.  It may help to make small circles with your fingertips.  That'll help you focus on muscles in your face you don't have conscious control of.  You should be able to "push back" against any force, from any direction, without moving the rest of your body.  That's "ideal" for a human.

You'll find your mother was right, the faces you make a lot you know how to control the muscles to make, but faces you don't make a lot you literally will be almost numb to those muscles and your body will forget they exist.  You will be shocked how difficult it is to make the same exact facial expression as, say, some random actor on TV, if it's not a facial expression you make normally.
 
2013-04-02 11:40:40 AM

timujin: Try living next to a chicken farm, then cry to me about fowl smells.

Also:
There is a "noisome odors or vapors" ordinance in Chapter 8, Section 36 of Portland City Code. It says "No person shall burn upon any premises or in any street, alley or other place, any animal or vegetable substance which shall create an offensive or noxious odor."

Doesn't really apply, does it now?  They're growing the weed, not smoking it.


Seems to me the last line about vegetable substance may apply. They should amend the wording to organic substance as pot isn't a vegetable.
 
2013-04-02 11:49:21 AM
If they try to pass a law stopping MJ smells, growing or smoking, then they will have to do the same for cigarettes. I would much prefer MJ smoke wafting in my open windows than cigarettes.

Also, they would have to make farting in public an illegal offense as well.
 
2013-04-02 11:56:01 AM

Igor Jakovsky: timujin: Try living next to a chicken farm, then cry to me about fowl smells.

Also:
There is a "noisome odors or vapors" ordinance in Chapter 8, Section 36 of Portland City Code. It says "No person shall burn upon any premises or in any street, alley or other place, any animal or vegetable substance which shall create an offensive or noxious odor."

Doesn't really apply, does it now?  They're growing the weed, not smoking it.

Seems to me the last line about vegetable substance may apply. They should amend the wording to organic substance as pot isn't a vegetable.


Then one of us isn't parsing the sentence correctly:
what is prohibited: burning any animal or vegetable substance
under what conditions: if it creates an offensive or noxious odor
where: anywhere

It doesn't say you can't have an animal or vegetable that has an offensive or noxious odor, but only that you can't create an offensive or noxious odor by burning that animal or vegetable.
 
2013-04-02 12:12:02 PM

timujin: Igor Jakovsky: timujin: Try living next to a chicken farm, then cry to me about fowl smells.

Also:
There is a "noisome odors or vapors" ordinance in Chapter 8, Section 36 of Portland City Code. It says "No person shall burn upon any premises or in any street, alley or other place, any animal or vegetable substance which shall create an offensive or noxious odor."

Doesn't really apply, does it now?  They're growing the weed, not smoking it.

Seems to me the last line about vegetable substance may apply. They should amend the wording to organic substance as pot isn't a vegetable.

Then one of us isn't parsing the sentence correctly:
what is prohibited: burning any animal or vegetable substance
under what conditions: if it creates an offensive or noxious odor
where: anywhere

It doesn't say you can't have an animal or vegetable that has an offensive or noxious odor, but only that you can't create an offensive or noxious odor by burning that animal or vegetable.


That interpretation matches how a retired lawyer I talked to about this topic last night took it as well. Only burning is covered by that.
 
2013-04-02 12:24:58 PM

basemetal: There should be zoning laws, fire code inspections, electrical inspections, regulations for this in general.  Residential areas should not be used to grow tomatos on a scale to sell to dispensaries.  Personal use is one thing, enough to make for selling is another.


FTFY
 
2013-04-02 12:52:44 PM
FTFA:  "My face gets completely tingly and just paralyzed," Gloria said

Oh hell yes, I love when that happens! That is some Diggity Dank right there.
 
2013-04-02 01:02:39 PM

joonyer: FTFA:  "My face gets completely tingly and just paralyzed," Gloria said

Oh hell yes, I love when that happens! That is some Diggity Dank right there.


Didn't see that in the article, then noticed the link to a previous one.  I hope my coworkers aren't bothered by the volume of my bullshiat alarm, it's gone to Derpcon One.
 
2013-04-02 01:29:51 PM
1.  The smell of flowering cannabis is quite strong.  Just six flowering plants in a basement can make a smallish house reek through and through, and that smell can most definitely make it outside.

2.  A carbon filter is not very expensive and should be seen as CDB when growing cannabis.  For the truly frugal grower, one can be made at home and the materials cost next to nothing.  To not have one shows lack of concern or respect for the neighborhood around you, for your business, and by proxy for your plants.  These growers and the ones mentioned in the comments who have "rotating shifts checking up on the plants every few days" (SERIOUSLY WTF?!?) sound utterly irresponsible and foolish, and I'm betting their cannabis is garbage not even worth turning into concentrate.

3.  Anyone who argues over the agricultural classification of tomatoes is a pedantic f*cking twit.

4.  There are an awful lot of self-centered totalitarians in this thread who should probably learn to STFU and live-and-let-live at some point, but their points on the importance of being considerate neighbors are quite valid.  Always consider how your actions affect those around you and take care to mitigate those effects, and if a neighbor actually approaches you with a problem, humbly apologize and graciously offer some ways to fix the problem or come to an otherwise amenable compromise.  But if you think far enough ahead and actually step outside of yourself to consider how other people might react or feel when beginning a project, you can usually avoid any form of confrontation at all.  This doesn't just go for growing pot- this goes for every single area of your life.

-Your Pal Radar, Forever Champion of the Cannabis
 
2013-04-02 01:41:49 PM

timujin: joonyer: FTFA:  "My face gets completely tingly and just paralyzed," Gloria said

Oh hell yes, I love when that happens! That is some Diggity Dank right there.

Didn't see that in the article, then noticed the link to a previous one.  I hope my coworkers aren't bothered by the volume of my bullshiat alarm, it's gone to Derpcon One.


Yeah, weed might stink like a motherfarker, but unless you're actively heating and releasing the THC into your your bloodstream it isn't going to have any physical effects whatsoever.  THC doesn't even become active until it hits 122°F and doesn't boil off until you hit 392°.  The stuff can get especially pungent in summer when it starts to scorch out, but (a) this is Portland we're talking about here, where it rarely ever cracks ninety, and (b) even if it were and those plants are pouring out all kinds of gloriously stinky terpines, I've never heard of someone having a physical reaction to terpines that wasn't completely psychosomatic.

Better keep these folks away from smart meters, cell towers, and wind turbines, too!
 
2013-04-02 02:06:14 PM

GAT_00: That seems like, if true, should fall under the same categories that prevent you from making your yard trashy - having chickens, letting your grass grow 2 feet tall, that sort of thing.


So, like, an association of homeowners?

/ducks quickly out of sight.
 
2013-04-02 02:06:57 PM

joonyer: FTFA:  "My face gets completely tingly and just paralyzed," Gloria said

Oh hell yes, I love when that happens! That is some Diggity Dank right there.


That's a symptom of hyperventilation. She's probably stressing out and doesn't realize she's doing it.
 
2013-04-02 02:32:25 PM

vicioushobbit: Mr Guy: Big_Fat_Liar: My mom pretends she is hurt when her neighbors burn leaves.  My youngest brother, who spent an extra 10 years with the parents after the other two of use grew up and left and after the parents started getting weird, also has this metal affliction where anything he smells that he doesn't like magically also makes him feel ill.  Cigarette smoke was fine when he was a smoker, but once he quit he couldn't stand the odor.  Just like the P's taught him to be.

You know, I've been looking into this as a function of improving my breathing in my sinuses and trying to expand my diet to include new flavors I'm less familiar with.  I can say this for a fact:  the muscles that expand your sinus cavity to resonate for singing or to open it up when you are deliberately trying to smell something have a direct and profound influence on your gag reflex.  I've had a horrible gag reflex and terrible sinus congestion my whole life, and I've come a loooooong way in fixing both by deliberately strengthening those muscles.  If he's deliberately trying NOT to smell something, he's probably taught himself to clench the back of soft palate, that'll trigger his gag reflex, which will cause him to lock his stomach.  Once your stomach muscles are braced, the brain interprets that feedback as nausea/anxiety, and it can get progressively worse, fast.

That's why the "cure" that forensic scientists and cops use is deliberate wide smile faced breathing.  It forces you to disengage the muscles closing up your nostrils and braces your airway open in the back, releasing the gag reflex.

I learned to the same trick for foods that I don't like the smell of.  You deliberately TRY and smell for a scent you recognize, and focus on that. Keeping deliberately inhaling will head off those cycles and keep your body from trying to protect itself.

This is actually incredibly useful information for me.  While it was posted for somebody else, I thank you for sharing it (I now have new things ...


To me too - thanks.  So the negative attitude a person has towards an aroma can lead to themselves making themselves ill.  Now I need to find a construction way to explain to them they are way too critical of anything they disapprove of and would actually feel better if they learned to lighten up a bit and maybe pull the sticks out of their butts for health reasons.
 
2013-04-02 03:00:29 PM
The only point that might be valid is running a business in a residential zoned property.

The odor from pot is harmless, and will not get you high. There is no "think of the children" bullshiat here.

Oregon doesn't really have strong nuisance odor laws either. If an asphalt plant can operate without any controls, then there isn't a way to shut down a pot grow due to odor. An asphalt plant is far more noxious than weed.

The weed growers sound like asshole neighbors, though. While I'd like for bad things to happen to everyone involved here, I don't want a precedent that ends up trying to regulate the smell of a pot grow.

Plus, it seems like you can smell weed from anywhere in this town.
 
2013-04-02 03:02:00 PM
This is like how my neighbor installed a noisy cheap piece of shiat Trane heat pump, and so it starts up every fifteen minutes and runs for about 5 each time, making it really hard to go to sleep(because the sound of the compressor starting is very startling). But my neighbors are assholes.
 
2013-04-02 04:21:55 PM

MadSkillz: This is like how my neighbor installed a noisy cheap piece of shiat Trane heat pump, and so it starts up every fifteen minutes and runs for about 5 each time, making it really hard to go to sleep(because the sound of the compressor starting is very startling). But my neighbors are assholes.


I highly recommend cheap foam earplugs.  They really will kill the sound and aren't uncomfortable to sleep wearing at all.  You can find them in any supermarket in the OTC medicine aisle.
 
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