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2013-04-02 05:13:23 AM
Oh, you can bet your sweet ass the Feds will get involved.  You boy Obama has been cracking down on pot harder than Bush ever dream of.
 
2013-04-02 05:16:02 AM

BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: When can I get rid of the curry-loving hipsters next door? Artisan curry with frufru ingredients means hours of FARKING STENCH. I mean, they're not doing anything illegal, but neither are the people in TFA, so...if they can make other people modify their behavior based on their preferences, so can I.

Have you tried?


Are you kidding? They might call la migra on me.
 
2013-04-02 05:16:31 AM

the ha ha guy: If your city zoning laws and/or HOA didn't specifically exclude chickens, and your neighbors started a small chicken farm, would you be taking your own advice


YES. That's the point.
 
2013-04-02 05:17:02 AM

BarkingUnicorn: log_jammin: I'd think this is a zoning thing isn't it? They've essentially setup a business in a residential neighborhood haven't they? or is medical marijuana only grown for personal use?

I, obviously, don't know how it works, but if my neighbor started a pig farm next to my house, I'd be a little upset too.

Grower claims it's not a business.


Does anyone believe that that amount of pot is for personal use?  Seriously look at that.  And it's being grown in a makeshift greenhouse thing so you can't really argue they need to stock up for the lean season.

Having said all that, do pot plants themselves smell?  I can't stand the smell of pot being smoked (sweet and sickly and bleh) but I've never noticed the plants people I've known had in their closets smelled of anything much, but I was never around them when they were flowering I don't think.

/I wish my neighbours would get rid of their elder trees
//The strong stench of cat urine ruins a fine day
 
2013-04-02 05:18:18 AM

the ha ha guy: As for your specific example, I have seen the HOA of a new development sue a nearby farm because they didn't realize that real farms don't smell as good as "country fresh scent" Downy. They lost, but the case went on far longer than I wold have liked, and the verdict was based on whether the farmer should be responsible for moving the barn and manure pond to another part of the farm, not "it's zoned as a farm so cows are allowed".


This is just the death throes of an ailing legal system, not evidence of good judgement.
 
2013-04-02 05:19:35 AM

Bigdogdaddy: I worked for a roofing manufacturer years ago.  They had a plant that refined the oil and it did smell awful.  Someone built a tennis club and then some upscale housing near there. Then the complaints started coming in about the smell.  They brought a little device in one day that was a werid looking little fan and plugged it in.  It somehow perfumed the air and you could amazingly no longer smell the stench of the asphalt. Perhaps something like this.


That seems to be all the complaining couple wants... on the grower's end.
 
2013-04-02 05:20:47 AM

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: But here's a case in which it's not covered. Zoning laws need to change.

No, the asshole neighbors need to shut up or move. If you live next to a farm that doesn't have a cow, and they proceed to buy more cows that you've ever seen in your life and all that poo smell rolls over you every day and makes you sick, you have to move because you're the one living in an area that's zoned for it.

The neighbors are allowed to grow pot. You don't like it? Leave. And don't let the metaphorical door hit you on the way out.


Yeah. You're a dick. FYI. The fact that you see those situations as parallel means you shouldn't really be discussing this situation with adults. I'm sure there's a street corner a block off a high school where you will find people more on that level of sensibility.
 
2013-04-02 05:21:07 AM

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: If enough of your neighbors join you in that complaint, your demand will be met.

But when it's just one couple they should STFU.


Not before they've said their say to the proper authorities.  They have that bothersome First Amendment right to petition their government for redress of grievances.
 
2013-04-02 05:22:08 AM

untaken_name: BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: When can I get rid of the curry-loving hipsters next door? Artisan curry with frufru ingredients means hours of FARKING STENCH. I mean, they're not doing anything illegal, but neither are the people in TFA, so...if they can make other people modify their behavior based on their preferences, so can I.

Have you tried?

Are you kidding? They might call la migra on me.


LOL!  It's "Le Migre," gringo.
 
2013-04-02 05:22:25 AM
perhaps they would prefer a maggot farm?
 
2013-04-02 05:24:00 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Bigdogdaddy: I worked for a roofing manufacturer years ago.  They had a plant that refined the oil and it did smell awful.  Someone built a tennis club and then some upscale housing near there. Then the complaints started coming in about the smell.  They brought a little device in one day that was a werid looking little fan and plugged it in.  It somehow perfumed the air and you could amazingly no longer smell the stench of the asphalt. Perhaps something like this.

That seems to be all the complaining couple wants... on the grower's end.


It'd probably be cheaper than lawsuits or fines from city hall.
 
2013-04-02 05:24:07 AM

Popular Opinion: perhaps they would prefer a maggot farm?


The GOP isn't particularly powerful in that state.
 
2013-04-02 05:27:08 AM

untaken_name: BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: When can I get rid of the curry-loving hipsters next door? Artisan curry with frufru ingredients means hours of FARKING STENCH. I mean, they're not doing anything illegal, but neither are the people in TFA, so...if they can make other people modify their behavior based on their preferences, so can I.

Have you tried?

Are you kidding? They might call la migra on me.


How else can you make it home in time for chupas wedding?
 
2013-04-02 05:27:32 AM

BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: When can I get rid of the curry-loving hipsters next door? Artisan curry with frufru ingredients means hours of FARKING STENCH. I mean, they're not doing anything illegal, but neither are the people in TFA, so...if they can make other people modify their behavior based on their preferences, so can I.

Have you tried?

Are you kidding? They might call la migra on me.

LOL!  It's "Le Migre," gringo.


You're not from around here, obviously. If you actually believe that, that makes it even funnier.
 
2013-04-02 05:28:12 AM

if_i_really_have_to: BarkingUnicorn: log_jammin: I'd think this is a zoning thing isn't it? They've essentially setup a business in a residential neighborhood haven't they? or is medical marijuana only grown for personal use?

I, obviously, don't know how it works, but if my neighbor started a pig farm next to my house, I'd be a little upset too.

Grower claims it's not a business.

Does anyone believe that that amount of pot is for personal use?  Seriously look at that.  And it's being grown in a makeshift greenhouse thing so you can't really argue they need to stock up for the lean season.

Having said all that, do pot plants themselves smell?  I can't stand the smell of pot being smoked (sweet and sickly and bleh) but I've never noticed the plants people I've known had in their closets smelled of anything much, but I was never around them when they were flowering I don't think.


Pot smells powerfully only when it's budding.

Grower may be a caregiver for several patients, each of whom is entitled to X plants which he grows for them.  Plus his own plants for his personal use.

Washingtonians, is the medical MJ law irrelevant now that recreational use is legal up there?
 
2013-04-02 05:30:11 AM
zoning laws are a way to abuse land rights and to exert control over people. Most cities have them though.

Oh well, there's a huge plot of land zoned agricultural very close to my home. I can't wait until they realize they can make more money from pot than whatever it is they grow there. Bonus: It's right across the street from a school.
 
2013-04-02 05:32:33 AM
Did the neighbor accidentally the whole thing?
 
2013-04-02 05:32:34 AM

untaken_name: BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: BarkingUnicorn: untaken_name: When can I get rid of the curry-loving hipsters next door? Artisan curry with frufru ingredients means hours of FARKING STENCH. I mean, they're not doing anything illegal, but neither are the people in TFA, so...if they can make other people modify their behavior based on their preferences, so can I.

Have you tried?

Are you kidding? They might call la migra on me.

LOL!  It's "Le Migre," gringo.

You're not from around here, obviously. If you actually believe that, that makes it even funnier.


You're right; it's "La Migra" and I'm a native American (born and raised in Chicago).
 
2013-04-02 05:34:45 AM

BarkingUnicorn: You're right


Of course. :)

BarkingUnicorn: it's "La Migra"


I know.

BarkingUnicorn: and I'm a native American (born and raised in Chicago).


Go Bears!
 
2013-04-02 05:36:24 AM

BarkingUnicorn: I'm a native American


A woo woo native American or a dot native American?
 
2013-04-02 05:43:06 AM
skreened.com
 
2013-04-02 05:46:50 AM
As expected, I figured the "defend marijuana growers under all circumstances" crowd has come forth. The marijuana defense squad has become almost as nuts as religious fundamentalists.
 
2013-04-02 05:48:21 AM
i47.tinypic.com

Yeah ;)
 
2013-04-02 05:53:44 AM
The neighbor could make a stinky compost pile. The the medical MJ grower would probably complain that the smell was ruining their plants.

Or there is always round up in a pressure washer.
 
2013-04-02 05:54:52 AM

SpinStopper: [i47.tinypic.com image 600x432]

Yeah ;)


Is that what they look like now?
 
2013-04-02 05:55:46 AM
Who the hell would grow pot in that former Soviet state in current Russia? Or in a post by that horny guy with a number in front of his name? Or in that gaping, cavernous sphincter spread by hands? Or at the house of that one ex-Farker who liked metal and pigs but couldn't keep himself in check? Or in any other proper noun and phrase that's banned on Fark?
 
2013-04-02 05:57:24 AM

puffy999: Or at the house of that one ex-Farker who liked metal and pigs but couldn't keep himself in check?


???
 
2013-04-02 05:57:29 AM

log_jammin: I'd think this is a zoning thing isn't it? They've essentially setup a business in a residential neighborhood haven't they? or is medical marijuana only grown for personal use?

I, obviously, don't know how it works, but if my neighbor started a pig farm next to my house, I'd be a little upset too.


Because the constant squealing of the plants would keep you up at night? Because plant shiat stinks? I am struggling with the analog here...
 
2013-04-02 06:13:41 AM

SDRR: I am struggling with the analog here...


I'm struggling to figure out why you're struggling.

I said "I'd think this is a zoning thing isn't it? They've essentially setup a business in a residential neighborhood" I said that because different areas are zoned for different things. Residential for housing, business for...business, agriculture for farms/etc..

Therefore, a person in a residential area might be upset when something not zoned for that area is suddenly next door to them. be it me upset about a smelly pig farm, or an aging yuppie clutching her pearls because she's "allergic" to the smell of a MJ growing business.
 
2013-04-02 06:26:50 AM
I've had pothead neighbors - well actually rastas with their ganja,

I've also had other neighbors (old Eastern Europeans) who boil cabbage for hours and hours. cook goddamn liver 'n' onions and bake stinky fish.

Guess what smells worse?
 
2013-04-02 06:29:45 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.


And berries are fruit.
 
2013-04-02 07:04:10 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've had pothead neighbors - well actually rastas with their ganja,

I've also had other neighbors (old Eastern Europeans) who boil cabbage for hours and hours. cook goddamn liver 'n' onions and bake stinky fish.

Guess what smells worse?


Cilantro.
 
2013-04-02 07:08:27 AM
Been a while, but I've been around large bushy plants, sticky with resin, and I don't recall any odor unless you were right next to them.
 
2013-04-02 07:13:00 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem.

So, just legalistic-magically classify MJ as alcohol?  Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.


It's an  arbitrary classification either way.
 
2013-04-02 07:21:14 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I've had pothead neighbors - well actually rastas with their ganja,

I've also had other neighbors (old Eastern Europeans) who boil cabbage for hours and hours. cook goddamn liver 'n' onions and bake stinky fish.

Guess what smells worse?


C) All of the above.
 
2013-04-02 07:22:29 AM
daynali.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-02 07:25:18 AM

martissimo: The comments on their website links to a first story about these people complaining. They sound like they are just trying to be assholes, the lady says her face "gets paralyzed", they even complain that the smell makes one of their dogs hack and cough, and another one sneeze a lot.

yeah right


Yep. We'll be seeing more of this kind of NIMBY crap, as folks who didn't get their way at the polls try to get it through more convoluted means. As long as they're registered, 475.304 covers marijuana grow sites.
 
2013-04-02 07:27:22 AM
Their outta be a law.
 
2013-04-02 07:33:16 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Having said all that, do pot plants themselves smell?  I can't stand the smell of pot being smoked (sweet and sickly and bleh) but I've never noticed the plants people I've known had in their closets smelled of anything much, but I was never around them when they were flowering I don't think.


The police stormed my neighbor's apartment a month ago, because of his cannabis farm. It was one of the worst stenches ever. Imagine Brussels sprouts boiled with bird shiat -- and I got the stink through a concrete wall. I have no idea what it would have been like to share the hallway with the guy. I thought the stink came form a fungus or something until the cops came and the smell vanished. It is truly vile.

I see people in this thread complaining about pine trees and various stinky foods, but none of that can hold a candle to a cannabis plantation. It's right up there with rotting garbage and open sewers, just more subtle.

I'm all for legalizing drugs and so on, but I don't like neighbors who stink up my home.
 
2013-04-02 07:37:53 AM
Sue under the Clean Air Act.
 
2013-04-02 07:43:59 AM
I lived in an apartment next door to a lady with two cats.  I'm allergic so I was constantly congested and my eyes always were red and itchy.  Plus, they must have pissed or sprayed or whatever all over because the stench was worse than an open sewer, but more subtle.
 
2013-04-02 07:54:42 AM
I have the same problem -- I live about 1/2-hour from PDX.

I live in an area zoned residential/commercial. Our very elderly neighbor died last year, and the house was rented to growers. They are the worst neighbors, ever. (Well, maybe not *ever*, but they suck.) They have no concern for their neighbors, and the place has gone to hell with litter. The three 20-something kids show up every few days to check the plants in rotation. Each of them has a pimped-out ride that screams "I don't know how to launder all the money I'm scamming."

They installed a ventilation system in the basement that's pointed right at my duplex. Some days, the entire block stinks of freshly mowed skunks. The cops were called by another neighbor for various reasons, and the cops and zoning enforcement told her the same thing -- they have growing proxies and it's zoned correctly, so nothing can be done.

I have no problem with pot, really, but these guys/girls are really dicks.
 
2013-04-02 08:02:40 AM

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: Yup, legal MJ is going to mean new laws.

I hope not. We have to cull the laws, not add new ones for every pedantic little problem. What's the point of having lawyers if we're just going to legislate every last detail of everything?

Either cull the laws or the lawyers. I'm okay with either and both, but seriously we don't need new laws to tell people their crops stink.


So you've driven by a feed lot lately?  WHEW! some days there's just NO air there
 
2013-04-02 08:04:16 AM

swingbozo: I'm allergic to grass. I DEMAND ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS REMOVE THEIR ALLERGEN PRODUCING LAWNS!


Second.  I replaced my required sidewalk strip grass with all female clone buffalo grass.  No Pollen, no mowing, but it is brown in the winter.
 
2013-04-02 08:05:43 AM

BarkingUnicorn: BarkingUnicorn: Tomatoes are fruit, according to the  gubmint, and pizza sauce counts as a vegetable.

Whoops, my mistake.  FDA says tomatoes are veggies.  Actually, they're berries.


They are vegetables, because that's how we use them culinarily... They're also botanical fruits (yes, berries, specifically)... This is not some government conspiracy or weird nonsensical rulemaking... It's just a difference between culinary terms and botanical terms...

Why does everyone always bring up tomatoes, but never any of the other fruits/vegetables which it applies equally as well to? For instance, peppers are also a botanical fruit, but are also considered culinary vegetables... The same goes for squash, cucumbers, eggplants, and a whole bunch of other things... Yet everyone just obsesses over the damn tomatoes as if they were the odd man out!
 
2013-04-02 08:12:36 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: I have the same problem -- I live about 1/2-hour from PDX.

I live in an area zoned residential/commercial. Our very elderly neighbor died last year, and the house was rented to growers. They are the worst neighbors, ever. (Well, maybe not *ever*, but they suck.) They have no concern for their neighbors, and the place has gone to hell with litter. The three 20-something kids show up every few days to check the plants in rotation. Each of them has a pimped-out ride that screams "I don't know how to launder all the money I'm scamming."

They installed a ventilation system in the basement that's pointed right at my duplex. Some days, the entire block stinks of freshly mowed skunks. The cops were called by another neighbor for various reasons, and the cops and zoning enforcement told her the same thing -- they have growing proxies and it's zoned correctly, so nothing can be done.

I have no problem with pot, really, but these guys/girls are really dicks.


I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.
 
2013-04-02 08:16:02 AM

RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.


There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"
 
2013-04-02 08:22:16 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"


An electric meter can be removed in 30 seconds... Remove tag, open cover, grab meter and pull. Something like that after they leave, knowing they won't be back for a couple days, could ruin months of work.
 
2013-04-02 08:24:00 AM
This should be easy to solve.

Post on Craigslist, with the address, "free pot samples".

Every weed head and lowlife will show up looking for some hand out, smell the pot, then come back later and do a home invasion and clean the place out and perhaps, beat, maybe maim the annoying ass neighbors.
 
2013-04-02 08:25:26 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: RoadRage78: I wonder how well their crops would do if the electric meter "vanished". If it's as bad as you say, I'm sure the other people on your block would look the other way.

There has been idle talk in the neighborhood about such things. Like, "Does anyone know where you can get large quantities of spider mites for the basement air intake?"


Or, you could go around there one day (or all of the concerned neighbours if you don't fancy going it alone) and tell them what the probelm is and tell them to get some active charcoal filters or they get the spider mite/aphid treatment.
 
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