SevenizGud: More reality:[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]But hey, any set of data can have an "off" 15+ years, amirite?
KiltedBastich: SevenizGud: More reality:[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]But hey, any set of data can have an "off" 15+ years, amirite?It's so cute how you always start that graph on the 1998 outlier to deliberately skew the trend.Oh wait, I did not mean cute, I mean "dishonest and stupid".
omeganuepsilon: Point?A confounding variable. What of it? Did you even read the page? That's an accusation I may toss out there as food for thought.A perceived relationship between an independent variable and a dependent variable that has been misestimated due to the failure to account for a confounding factor is termed a spurious relationship, and the presence of misestimation for this reason is termed omitted-variable bias.Sounds rather exactly like something I may say.Yes, outliers are removed, as they are not "data". A sensor that reads 500 degrees is broken. 90 degrees in January in south dakota? Yeah, not happening either.But some of the organizations go above and beyond that, and is evident when you really read their methodology reports, they're quite blatant about it. Berkeley has attempted to not do it so harshly(read: obviously), but they still do so. They all dampen their references for the floating average, for example, and attempt to extrapolate (read: guess) at missing data. sure, some guesses are more reasonable than others, but none are certain by any means, so that only adds another error to propagate.
omeganuepsilon: And that link was relevant how?You're going to have to explain that one, because, in your very limited context, you may as well have said "math".
omeganuepsilon: I think you all share some mental condition. I brought up a possibility in that thread:Is extreme stupidity(and hence a lot of religiosity) possibly some type of anosognosia?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anosognosia
omeganuepsilon: I think you all share some mental condition
omeganuepsilon: Go hug a tree cattle-guard on an already fast moving train. Just stand in the tracks and embrace it as it gets to you.
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Damnhippyfreak: omeganuepsilon: Unknown_Poltroon: Oh, look what happens when you don't cherry pick the data from 1998 on?? Lying fark.That's cute.Similarly small date.Various graphs, last 213 years[BEST][BEST upper 95% CI]As long as we're messing with the woodfortrees graph generator [snipped]
Damnhippyfreak: Unsurprisingly, they are indeed cyclical (it's right in the name, after all). PDO and AMO indexes are calculated by first removing other factors (such as anthropogenic climate change) - it's essentially a residual. Not sure what you were trying to get at by posting those.
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