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(IndyStar)   Hooking up with a 16 yr. old girl you met on Facebook to have sex is usually going end being a police sting, or a group of people who are going to kick your ass and rob you. This time it wasn't the police   (indystar.com) divider line 113
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2013-04-02 01:10:43 AM  
I'm having trouble generating any sympathy for this guy.

/not really trying that hard, either
 
2013-04-02 01:16:24 AM  
Sounds like the teens (and 20 year olds) were betting on him not going to the cops.
Apparently, they bet wrong.

//the robbery may seem like a real bargain if a divorce is forthcoming
 
2013-04-02 02:18:24 AM  
He then drove back to his Far-Northside house, where he told his wife he had been robbed,

That's gotta be one hell of a conversation.
 
2013-04-02 02:19:01 AM  
What?  Real 16-year-olds usually don't want to have sex with random creeps they meet on Facebook and such deals usually end badly?  Who'd a-thunk it?

/is 41 his age or IQ?
 
2013-04-02 02:19:34 AM  
HA HA!
 
2013-04-02 02:26:54 AM  
Except for the robbery, good farking job. Lets see more of this.
 
2013-04-02 02:28:18 AM  
Ironically, I once made arrangements to be savagely beaten and robbed by a group of strangers on Facebook and instead had wild, animalistic, passionate sex with a 16 year old girl.

Never believe what you read online, people. It's all lies.
 
2013-04-02 02:29:15 AM  
It's called trick rolling...

Link
 
2013-04-02 02:31:53 AM  
I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?
 
2013-04-02 02:33:47 AM  
"Have a seat right over there.. and give me your wallet and keys."
 
2013-04-02 02:34:25 AM  
Ah, the wonders of the internet never cease!  In the old days, you had to stalk a victim in a dark parking lot.  These days, you just throw up a post on Craigslist and they come to you.
 
Ral
2013-04-02 02:35:17 AM  
Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?
 
2013-04-02 02:36:29 AM  
This shiat has been going on a lot around here also.

I got just one question. Does this whole meeting up with teens you met on Facebook ever result in anything other than Chris Hansen, delivering yourself to the cops, or an ass kicking and getting robbed? Do people ever really end up having sex with a 16 year old?
 
2013-04-02 02:36:51 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Ah, the wonders of the internet never cease!  In the old days, you had to stalk a victim in a dark parking lot.  These days, you just throw up a post on Craigslist and they come to you.


Funny thing about that is if they didn't use computers to meet it would have been perfectly legal in Indiana.
 
2013-04-02 02:39:59 AM  

Psycat: they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.


They're probably assuming the 16 year old has mental issues, and it doesn't matter to them.
 
2013-04-02 02:42:39 AM  

ongbok: This shiat has been going on a lot around here also.

I got just one question. Does this whole meeting up with teens you met on Facebook ever result in anything other than Chris Hansen, delivering yourself to the cops, or an ass kicking and getting robbed? Do people ever really end up having sex with a 16 year old?


Probably not.  But that doesn't stop a never-ending line of idiots from trying...
 
2013-04-02 02:46:49 AM  
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2013-04-02 02:49:30 AM  
I was once on a Stag Party where a guy had to use a payphone to ring home to tell his wife he had been robbed by a prostitute. She hung up....

Thing is, the prostitute had been returning to our B&B with a couple of clients (who we didn't know) and had found him passed out in the hallway, helped him up and took his wallet in the process.

No way he could keep his wife on the phone long enough to explain...
 
2013-04-02 02:52:56 AM  

Ishkur: He then drove back to his Far-Northside house, where he told his wife he had been robbed,

That's gotta be one hell of a conversation.


i'd like to think it took place all in the speech from clockwork orange.
 
2013-04-02 02:55:26 AM  

Ral: Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?


Both Visa and MasterCard prohibit merchants from requiring customer ID as a condition for accepting their credit or debit cards. All you need is a signed card, and of course the signatures must match.
http://news.consumerreports.org/money/2011/02/id-credit-card-debit-c ar d-require-kmart-sears-policy-mastercard-american-express.html

Another story goes that some stores were profiling their customers. They carded minorities even in business suits and let other lighter shades in grungy clothes go ahead. The card companies saw lawsuits and government investigation headed their way, so they washed their hands of ID requirements.
 
2013-04-02 02:58:55 AM  
two wrongs don't make a right

but in this case, he appears to have deserved what he got.
if i caught him with my daughter, he would be useless to his wife.
 
2013-04-02 03:00:12 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Psycat: they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.

They're probably assuming the 16 year old has mental issues, and it doesn't matter to them.


The ones with mental issues don't want to have sex with them either. These 16 year old girls that are so wild and messed up that they are waiting around on Facebook or wherever to have sex with anybody, including a fat, balding, skid marked underwear wearing 40 year old man are mythical beings. Now their are some that will have sex with them for money, or are forced too, but very very very few are willingly doing this. .
 
2013-04-02 03:03:20 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?


I've had a fair number of girls in their early to mid-twenties "throw themselves" at me lately.  That hasn't happened since I was in my twenties.  It's a little odd, really.  I know a lot of guys who would tell me to just go with it, but I'm much more comfortable with the "half plus seven" standard.

/yeah, not even a CSB, but what do you want at this hour?
 
2013-04-02 03:04:12 AM  
His credit cards screwed up, his wife is on to his cheating heart, what a mess. And his place of employment will probably find out about this and he'll never live it down.actually he's lucky they didn't rough him up, shoot him, "lose" the car, or report him to the police.
 
2013-04-02 03:25:39 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Ah, the wonders of the internet never cease!  In the old days, you had to stalk a victim in a dark parking lot.  These days, you just throw up a post on Craigslist and they come to you.


That's how my "sugar daddy seeking sugar baby" ads work.

/IDK why they keep getting flagged down.
 
2013-04-02 03:26:15 AM  
a group of people who are going to kick your ass and rob you.

And then his soon to be ex-wife got a hold of his stupid ass.
 
2013-04-02 03:30:14 AM  

Ral: Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?


The right kind of merchants don't read cards too closely.  There are a lot of them.  "Oh, it's my Dad's!  He couldn't be here for my birthday (sob)" works surprisingly often, too.
 
2013-04-02 03:33:22 AM  

timujin: I've had a fair number of girls in their early to mid-twenties "throw themselves" at me lately. That hasn't happened since I was in my twenties. It's a little odd, really. I know a lot of guys who would tell me to just go with it, but I'm much more comfortable with the "half plus seven" standard.


You, sir, are what's wrong with America.
 
2013-04-02 03:37:23 AM  
Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.
 
2013-04-02 03:41:19 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: timujin: I've had a fair number of girls in their early to mid-twenties "throw themselves" at me lately. That hasn't happened since I was in my twenties. It's a little odd, really. I know a lot of guys who would tell me to just go with it, but I'm much more comfortable with the "half plus seven" standard.

You, sir, are what's wrong with America.


In so many ways...
 
2013-04-02 03:44:48 AM  

Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.


Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.
 
2013-04-02 03:54:27 AM  

ongbok: Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.

Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.


Florida's is weird. If your ages 18 - 23 then the age of consent is 16. If you turn 24, the age of consent is 18. So... if a 23 year old hooks up with a 16 year old there's going to be some grey area there...  Citation
 
2013-04-02 03:59:55 AM  

Pert: I was once on a Stag Party where a guy had to use a payphone to ring home to tell his wife he had been robbed by a prostitute. She hung up....

Thing is, the prostitute had been returning to our B&B with a couple of clients (who we didn't know) and had found him passed out in the hallway, helped him up and took his wallet in the process.

No way he could keep his wife on the phone long enough to explain...


Why on god's green Earth did he think a good opening was, "Honey, I just got robbed by a hooker' and not, "Honey, I just got robbed"?
 
2013-04-02 04:08:54 AM  
Has this country gotten so PC that we can't even blame this sort of thing on minorities anymore?

I'll bet if he wasn't married the cops would have never heard about it.
 
2013-04-02 04:41:05 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?


To be fair, now that I have somehow survived into my early 40s I do think I might conceivably stand a chance with a smoking hot 16 year old, provided she has intense daddy issues. And is blind. And also stupid and possibly suffering dementia as well.
 
2013-04-02 04:55:06 AM  

Popular Opinion: two wrongs don't make a right

but in this case, he appears to have deserved what he got.
if i caught him with my daughter, he would be useless to his wife.


Well, trying to mess around with anyone's young daughter means this guy is already useless to his wife.  However I do get where you are going with your thought.
 
2013-04-02 05:17:04 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?

To be fair, now that I have somehow survived into my early 40s I do think I might conceivably stand a chance with a smoking hot 16 year old, provided she has intense daddy issues. And is blind. And also stupid and possibly suffering dementia as well.


See now its good to see a man with standards in this day and age
 
2013-04-02 05:24:17 AM  

Fano: Ishkur: He then drove back to his Far-Northside house, where he told his wife he had been robbed,

That's gotta be one hell of a conversation.

i'd like to think it took place all in the speech from clockwork orange.


Welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, well.
 
2013-04-02 05:31:37 AM  

ongbok: Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.

Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.


I don't know about other states, but here in Ohio, 16 is the age of consent, period. It doesn't matter if the other person is 18 or 80. There are separate laws governing abuse by those in a position of authority (teacher/student for example).
 
2013-04-02 05:34:50 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Ral: Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?

The right kind of merchants don't read cards too closely.  There are a lot of them.  "Oh, it's my Dad's!  He couldn't be here for my birthday (sob)" works surprisingly often, too.


It also depends on what part of the city they used the cards in.  If it's one of the more well-off areas, it's not that unusual at all for a teenager to have a credit card.  If it's one of the rougher areas of town, they likely just don't give a shiat; it's not their money.

And as someone else already pointed out, merchants aren't required to check for ID unless the card is unsigned.
 
2013-04-02 05:35:55 AM  

Neondistraction: And as someone else already pointed out, merchants aren't required to check for ID unless the card is unsigned.


Which would first require them to examine the card, which no retailer I've done business with in the past 5 years has done.
 
2013-04-02 06:03:34 AM  

untaken_name: Neondistraction: And as someone else already pointed out, merchants aren't required to check for ID unless the card is unsigned.

Which would first require them to examine the card, which no retailer I've done business with in the past 5 years has done.



I haven't signed the back of a credit card in over ten years. No merchant has ever mentioned it.
 
2013-04-02 06:37:02 AM  
Yep, age of consent in Indiana seems to be 16.  I think this girl didn't think her cunning plan through all the way.  He may be creepy perv, but it doesn't seem like he broke any laws, but the girl and her friends sure did.
 
2013-04-02 06:45:26 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?


Middle Aged Delusional Syndrome could explain it. However, if you are fat and balding at 41, that's gotta be hard psychologically. If you can believe that a transexual can be born in the wrong gender body, it's not that hard to believe that someone could feel in the wrong age body.
 
2013-04-02 07:00:47 AM  
"usually going end being"

my brain asplode
 
2013-04-02 07:03:19 AM  
incoherent headline is incoherent
 
2013-04-02 07:05:55 AM  
It's kind of creepy how many Farkers are so familiar with age of consent laws.
 
2013-04-02 07:12:28 AM  

MNguy: It's kind of creepy how many Farkers are so familiar with age of consent laws.


Creepy, or they work with law enforcement - you know, those people that tend to know the laws.

Or both.
 
2013-04-02 07:14:00 AM  

MNguy: It's kind of creepy how many Farkers are so familiar with age of consent laws.


Hmm, why does Nature make youth so attractive?
 
2013-04-02 07:30:41 AM  
Ah I love america, so sexually repressed because of your silly beliefs in god..European age of consent in most countires id 14-16
 
2013-04-02 07:33:04 AM  

Psycat: Real 16-year-olds usually don't want to have sex with random creeps they meet on Facebook


At least not the ones you'd want to have sex with, anyway...
 
2013-04-02 07:33:24 AM  

UtopianDevil: MNguy: It's kind of creepy how many Farkers are so familiar with age of consent laws.

Creepy, or they work with law enforcement - you know, those people that tend to know the laws.

Or both.


Knowing the law and your legal rights = creepy?

Everyone was young once.
 
2013-04-02 07:39:21 AM  

UtopianDevil: untaken_name: Neondistraction: And as someone else already pointed out, merchants aren't required to check for ID unless the card is unsigned.

Which would first require them to examine the card, which no retailer I've done business with in the past 5 years has done.


I haven't signed the back of a credit card in over ten years. No merchant has ever mentioned it.


I signed mine with 'poop' and a little drawing of a turd with flies. In 7 years I've had one person go 'uh....okay', but that was about it.
 
2013-04-02 07:42:26 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?




Wait, it's NOT true? I'm 45, not 41. How about 18 then instead of 16? Anyone? Anyone.....
 
2013-04-02 07:44:57 AM  
16 is legal in the majority of the county, ya'll just jealous you've never scored.
 
2013-04-02 07:50:40 AM  
Hmm, let me think. I could use a good ass kicking, I'll be very honest with you.
 
2013-04-02 07:59:19 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If you can believe that a transexual can be born in the wrong gender body, it's not that hard to believe that someone could feel in the wrong age body.


You mean I'm gonna stay this color?
 
2013-04-02 08:06:04 AM  

macadamnut: Quantum Apostrophe: If you can believe that a transexual can be born in the wrong gender body, it's not that hard to believe that someone could feel in the wrong age body.

You mean I'm gonna stay this color?


blackstreetonline.files.wordpress.com  www.inflexwetrust.com
 
2013-04-02 08:08:34 AM  

ongbok: This shiat has been going on a lot around here also.

I got just one question. Does this whole meeting up with teens you met on Facebook ever result in anything other than Chris Hansen, delivering yourself to the cops, or an ass kicking and getting robbed? Do people ever really end up having sex with a 16 year old?


Does it ever end in sex? Sure.  It's kind of like when you see a smoking hot girl with an ugly asshole guy, and you wonder WTF.  Some how she finds him desirable, the same happens with teenage girls and older guys.
 
2013-04-02 08:08:57 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?


Daddy and substance abuse issues, it is not that out of the question to find one's self contemplating jail time.

I'm just saying....

...yes I'll have a seat over there
 
2013-04-02 08:10:49 AM  
Why don't you have a gurney right over there?
 
2013-04-02 08:12:55 AM  

detritus: "Have a seat right over there.. and give me your wallet and keys."


imageshack.us
...and say hello to Rodrigo and his crow bar....
 
2013-04-02 08:13:40 AM  

ongbok: Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.

Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.


Well considering I'm fat, ugly and broke I am sure I'll never need to take that advice. Thanks for the warning though.
 
2013-04-02 08:14:39 AM  

tb tibbles: Ral: Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?

Both Visa and MasterCard prohibit merchants from requiring customer ID as a condition for accepting their credit or debit cards. All you need is a signed card, and of course the signatures must match.
http://news.consumerreports.org/money/2011/02/id-credit-card-debit-c ar d-require-kmart-sears-policy-mastercard-american-express.html

Another story goes that some stores were profiling their customers. They carded minorities even in business suits and let other lighter shades in grungy clothes go ahead. The card companies saw lawsuits and government investigation headed their way, so they washed their hands of ID requirements.


"Here you are, Mister.... Bell?"
"Oh no please. Call me Taco."
 
2013-04-02 08:20:21 AM  
He lured her with his Wilhelm.
 
2013-04-02 08:21:52 AM  
Hi honey. Oh what a day. That Kellerman project is eating up all my time at work. I had to skip lunch. Sorry I'm late. I was driving home and there were 4, no, 6 full grown men beating up this teenage girl. Well, I had to stop the car and stop this horrible attack. No! No one else was doing anything about it. I called 911 but I got a busy signal. I guess that's because of the sequestration/fiscal cliff thing, right? Anyhow, I jumped right in. they didn't see me coming and I got the drop on them. A few karate chops and they ran like cowards. Well, I couldn't leave the girl there so I put her in the car and we drove to the hospital. She was really beaten up!

When I got to the hospital, I realized that I must have dropped my wallet. I'll bet it was when I was doing that flying roundhouse kick to the biggest, baddest guy. It really took him down. So I drove back to where I fought them and looked around. I saw them coming out of an Ambercrombie and Finch store with a bunch of stuff and my wallet so I laid in to them again. I went full Jackie Chang(*) on them.

I was so afraid that I might kill them with my patented Death Punch of Death, that I had to step back and let them limp away. They'll probably stop their even ways and join a ministry.

Anyhow, let me tell you about that Kellerman. He keeps submitting changes even though the close date was last week. The boss plays golf with him so he says "Let Kellerman get what he wants. He brought 14% more business in last year. He doesn't even use the correct change request form. He e-mails me the stuff and I have to fill out the form and chase him down to sign it.

(*) I know. He doesn't. Did you lose your place? I often do when there's a (*) and I look at the bottom of the page to see what it referring to. I really hate it when you gotta go to the end of the book to look. And it's a damn Michael Crichton novel and you have to dig though "Chapter 3 - 2 The Welsh Doctrine stated in 1992 that only a specific blend of cheeses and standard toast could constitute Welsh Rabbit. This was amended in 1994 with the Denny's Welsh Amendment when Texas Toast could be substituted. Welsh, Denny's Welsh Doctrine 1992 (amended 1994)." And it turns out, Michael Crichton made all this crap up! I cited a bunch of his stuff in college term papers. I'm not giving back my associate's degree in liberal arts just because he can't tell the truth.
 
2013-04-02 08:34:04 AM  
The four robbers, police said, also took the man's car, a 2013 Lexus, and went on a shopping spree using his credit cards.

lulz
 
2013-04-02 08:40:44 AM  
I remember calling that place Nobletucky about 20 years ago.  Do they still call it that?
 
2013-04-02 08:48:39 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I remember calling that place Nobletucky about 20 years ago.  Do they still call it that?


I do.
 
2013-04-02 08:50:28 AM  
I think the girl still owes some sex.
 
kab
2013-04-02 08:50:47 AM  
While I actually hope the robbers end up meeting the wrong person when trying to pull this stunt again, the middle aged guy is a special kind of retard for not realizing that he was being set up.
 
kab
2013-04-02 08:55:41 AM  

Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?


I fit this description, aside from the balding part, and have absolutely zero delusions along these lines.

/being socially invisible has it's upside I suppose.
 
2013-04-02 09:15:39 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Hmm, why does Nature make youth so attractive?


Because those are the ones who know how to work a 3D printer.
 
2013-04-02 09:22:41 AM  
genius is lucky they didn't rob his house, kill the wife and burn the place to the ground then slice his throat and sell his car. me thinks wifey is talking to a good divorce attorney right about now. jackpot.
 
2013-04-02 09:26:59 AM  

DoctorCal: The four robbers, police said, also took the man's car, a 2013 Lexus, and went on a shopping spree using his credit cards.

lulz


So they are all on video cameras from the various stores and we should see a follow up article with some interesting mug shots unless they are all juveniles.
 
2013-04-02 09:32:48 AM  

theorellior: Quantum Apostrophe: Hmm, why does Nature make youth so attractive?

Because those are the ones who know how to work a 3D printer.


Then how did the human species survive before 3D? Is this year 0 3D? My God, what a glorious future awaits us! I am already tired of living in my VR nanotechnological world. I eagerly await the new revolution! All hail the replicators!
 
2013-04-02 09:41:46 AM  
UtopianDevil:

I haven't signed the back of a credit card in over ten years. No merchant has ever mentioned it.

See where it says "Not valid unless signed"?
 
2013-04-02 09:45:03 AM  
I meet my girls on craigslist--- always give my wife the girl's phone number. We usually do a reverse look-up to vet them out before the meetup. Thank god the age of consent is so low around here-- else I would be a real creep.
 
2013-04-02 09:51:50 AM  

UtopianDevil: MNguy: It's kind of creepy how many Farkers are so familiar with age of consent laws.

Creepy, or they work with law enforcement - you know, those people that tend to know the laws.

Or both.


Or work in the medical field.

If a patient tells me they're sexually active at 16, no legal worries. Document for records, and move on. 13? I need to know who with- is it an abuse situation?
 
2013-04-02 09:53:01 AM  

finnished: UtopianDevil:

I haven't signed the back of a credit card in over ten years. No merchant has ever mentioned it.

See where it says "Not valid unless signed"?


Yes, I do. That must mean all charges made on the card aren't valid and I don't have to pay........
 
2013-04-02 10:12:29 AM  

finnished: UtopianDevil:

I haven't signed the back of a credit card in over ten years. No merchant has ever mentioned it.

See where it says "Not valid unless signed"?


Back in 1989 I was working at a bookstore. Being young and naive I took phrase that at face value and attempted to refuse an unsigned card from a patron. My manager gave me a Tommy Lee Jones look and says, "No one cares." Even 25 years ago the signature on the back was just security theatre.

Thus ends the lesson and CSB for the day.
 
2013-04-02 10:17:04 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?

Middle Aged Delusional Syndrome could explain it. However, if you are fat and balding at 41, that's gotta be hard psychologically. If you can believe that a transexual can be born in the wrong gender body, it's not that hard to believe that someone could feel in the wrong age body.


Plenty of celebs are walking around with models half their age. The delusion is real, but it is also well-advertised.
 
2013-04-02 10:18:27 AM  
=^..^=  GOOD
 
2013-04-02 10:20:56 AM  

tb tibbles: Ral: Why were they able to use his credit cards?  Did the merchants not even bother to ask for ID with a gaggle of teenagers buying tons of expensive shiat?

Both Visa and MasterCard prohibit merchants from requiring customer ID as a condition for accepting their credit or debit cards. All you need is a signed card, and of course the signatures must match.
http://news.consumerreports.org/money/2011/02/id-credit-card-debit-c ar d-require-kmart-sears-policy-mastercard-american-express.html

Another story goes that some stores were profiling their customers. They carded minorities even in business suits and let other lighter shades in grungy clothes go ahead. The card companies saw lawsuits and government investigation headed their way, so they washed their hands of ID requirements.


Visa and Mastercard originally intended for the cardholder's signature to be their ID. That was part of the convenience factor when credit cards were first introduced. And it stayed that way until last year, when they both updated their merchant agreements to allow them to request ID, presumably due to identity theft issues and the fact that, in general, most low- wage retail clerks aren't handwriting experts and generally don't give a shiat beyond MAYBE a quick glance at the card. Actually, this was sometimes used as a way to get shiat for free: Person buys something, person pays with credit card, and signs with a totally different signature. Person then calls credit card company, reports card stolen, card company asks merchant for verification, then performs chargeback when merchant can't prove it was the cardholder who made the purchase.
 
2013-04-02 10:22:37 AM  

ongbok: Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.

Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.


Both Indiana (where the FTA states this took place) and Ohio are absolute consent at 16 states.  Both Ohio and Indiana have provisions for consent when both parties are 13-16 and it's NOT statutory rape in those instances.

blogs.laweekly.com
 
2013-04-02 10:23:39 AM  
What I learned from reading the article's comment section: The age of consent in Indiana is 16.

www.currentobservations.us
 
2013-04-02 10:27:32 AM  

Generation_D: Plenty of celebs are walking around with models half their age. The delusion is real, but it is also well-advertised.


For me "Middle Aged Delusional Syndrome" is when someone who is not a celeb, not attractive either physically or mentally, and who is clearly by every metric inferior to a younger person persists in thinking that now, at 40+, it's the best time of his life.

You can be the best you can be, but better than a 20 something? Please. I can feel the decay in my body and I *know* my brain is falling apart. There's nothing good or fun or sexy about aging. Some people just want to live youth vicariously.

I can't blame them, but you have to be honest with yourself.
 
2013-04-02 10:30:12 AM  

tbhouston: Ah I love america, so sexually repressed because of your silly beliefs in god..European age of consent in most countires id 14-16


Europeans don't believe in god?

If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.
 
2013-04-02 10:33:06 AM  

broken jebus: What I learned from reading the article's comment section: The age of consent in Indiana is 16.



Guess I know where I'll be spending my summer vacation.
 
2013-04-02 10:34:59 AM  
Ever hopeful guys.

The beauty of this is that the girl can contact him again on Facebook, apologize, saying it was never her intention, but her brother found out and he set up the whole thing as a 'lesson'. A couple of nude pics later, and she can meet up with the guy where they can rob him again.


/testosterone FTW!!
 
2013-04-02 10:36:09 AM  
Psycat: ,,,, Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  ,,,

I see you read my profile.
 
2013-04-02 10:42:00 AM  

KrispyKritter: genius is lucky they didn't rob his house, kill the wife and burn the place to the ground then slice his throat and sell his car. me thinks wifey is talking to a good divorce attorney right about now. jackpot.


Actually, the 16 year old is lucky she isn't rotting in a shallow grave or a 50 gallon barrel in some place so remote her remains will never be found.  What happens if the guy had turned out to be a serial killer? or simply smelled a trap, didn't go the house as planned, and in an ensuing struggle she got stabbed or shot?  Very dangerous game she was playing, counting on her charm and instincts to keep her safe until she brought prey into the trap.  Sometimes the prey becomes the hunter.

There is no jackpot here, everybody lost.
 
2013-04-02 10:43:45 AM  
Great thing about 16 year olds? There's six of them.
Wait.... What?
 
2013-04-02 11:38:52 AM  
It's been done.  Meet this guy, who graduated in my HS class.  He went AWOL, fled to Italy where he got married, then when they were both back in the States, they used photos of her to lure in pedophiles.

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/to-rob-a-predator/Content?oid=14 96 256
 
2013-04-02 11:58:14 AM  

Konfetka: It's been done.  Meet this guy, who graduated in my HS class.  He went AWOL, fled to Italy where he got married, then when they were both back in the States, they used photos of her to lure in pedophiles.

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/to-rob-a-predator/Content?oid=14 96 256


And it all unraveled over a pudding snack.
 
2013-04-02 12:02:13 PM  
Unless you are in the UK, in which case you have done nothing illegal (the trying to have sex with a 16 year old, not beating the guy up)

Just creepy.
 
2013-04-02 12:03:01 PM  

catzilla: Great thing about 16 year olds? There's six of them.
Wait.... What?


Nah, that`s twenty seven year olds...
 
2013-04-02 12:44:50 PM  
Boy, I really feel for ... oh, wait ... no, no, I don't.

I'm not sure who's dumber, him or the girl who went to an abandoned house with someone she "met" on Facebook.
 
2013-04-02 12:49:02 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Hi honey. Oh what a day. That Kellerman project is eating up all my time at work. I had to skip lunch. Sorry I'm late. I was driving home and there were 4, no, 6 full grown men beating up this teenage girl. Well, I had to stop the car and stop this horrible attack. No! No one else was doing anything about it. I called 911 but I got a busy signal. I guess that's because of the sequestration/fiscal cliff thing, right? Anyhow, I jumped right in. they didn't see me coming and I got the drop on them. A few karate chops and they ran like cowards. Well, I couldn't leave the girl there so I put her in the car and we drove to the hospital. She was really beaten up!

When I got to the hospital, I realized that I must have dropped my wallet. I'll bet it was when I was doing that flying roundhouse kick to the biggest, baddest guy. It really took him down. So I drove back to where I fought them and looked around. I saw them coming out of an Ambercrombie and Finch store with a bunch of stuff and my wallet so I laid in to them again. I went full Jackie Chang(*) on them.

I was so afraid that I might kill them with my patented Death Punch of Death, that I had to step back and let them limp away. They'll probably stop their even ways and join a ministry.

Anyhow, let me tell you about that Kellerman. He keeps submitting changes even though the close date was last week. The boss plays golf with him so he says "Let Kellerman get what he wants. He brought 14% more business in last year. He doesn't even use the correct change request form. He e-mails me the stuff and I have to fill out the form and chase him down to sign it.

(*) I know. He doesn't. Did you lose your place? I often do when there's a (*) and I look at the bottom of the page to see what it referring to. I really hate it when you gotta go to the end of the book to look. And it's a damn Michael Crichton novel and you have to dig though "Chapter 3 - 2 The Welsh Doctrine stated in 1992 that only ...


You win the thread.
 
2013-04-02 01:39:54 PM  

ongbok: Pincy: Ya guy is an idiot but half the states have age of consent at 16 so it's not always a police sting.

Don't listen to this advice because in almost every state if you are over 21 you will go to jail listening to him. And in some states if you are over 17 or 18 you will go to jail listening to him.


Actually it differs from state to state, but you know, don't let facts get in the way of a good rant on morality...
 
2013-04-02 02:40:44 PM  

hdhale: KrispyKritter: genius is lucky they didn't rob his house, kill the wife and burn the place to the ground then slice his throat and sell his car. me thinks wifey is talking to a good divorce attorney right about now. jackpot.

Actually, the 16 year old is lucky she isn't rotting in a shallow grave or a 50 gallon barrel in some place so remote her remains will never be found.  What happens if the guy had turned out to be a serial killer? or simply smelled a trap, didn't go the house as planned, and in an ensuing struggle she got stabbed or shot?  Very dangerous game she was playing, counting on her charm and instincts to keep her safe until she brought prey into the trap.  Sometimes the prey becomes the hunter.

There is no jackpot here, everybody lost.


If 16 is legal in her state, then the guy that got robbed might be interested in some retribution beyond what the court system will dish out to these "children".  I'm not advocating illegal violence, of course, but it might do the world a little good.

(If that's the wrong answer, consider that tomorrow I might think the guy is a perv and should rot in hell.  Depends on what I had for breakfast that day.)
 
2013-04-02 02:42:38 PM  

ongbok: This shiat has been going on a lot around here also.

I got just one question. Does this whole meeting up with teens you met on Facebook ever result in anything other than Chris Hansen, delivering yourself to the cops, or an ass kicking and getting robbed? Do people ever really end up having sex with a 16 year old?


Sadly yes, I knew of a person in Portland (I would never call him a friend).  He hooked up with a 16 year old when he was almost thirty, her family was cool with everything.  But luckilly he pushed his luck and tried to hook up with a 14 year old girl from Craigslist.  And it turned out to be a police sting and he was sentenced with many years :-)
 
2013-04-02 02:51:38 PM  
Where is the pope's other hand?
 
2013-04-02 06:27:08 PM  
While I normally don't approve of assault and battery as a means of making a living, I have to applaud the kids' entrepreneurial spirit here.  They figured out a winning business plan and carried it through successfully.
 
2013-04-02 08:06:15 PM  

Generation_D: Quantum Apostrophe: Psycat: I've known way too many people like this guy.  Fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous, just average or even below-average--and yet they have the delusion that smoking-hot 16-year-olds without serious mental issues just want to throw their bodies at them.  WTF?

Middle Aged Delusional Syndrome could explain it. However, if you are fat and balding at 41, that's gotta be hard psychologically. If you can believe that a transexual can be born in the wrong gender body, it's not that hard to believe that someone could feel in the wrong age body.

Plenty of celebs are walking around with models half their age. The delusion is real, but it is also well-advertised.


Key word there is "celebs". You have to have something to trade to make up for being physically undesirable, wealth or status are the usual bargaining chips.

Just because the fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous guy, really, really wants a young hottie to bone, it doesn't mean he has a real chance of getting one.

Ask a man to think of a woman twenty plus years older than himself (and no celebs allowed, think of the sort that attends the local bingo group or bowls club) and you'd get a reaction along the lines of 'eww do not want', that is how the hot young thing really thinks of the guy twenty plus years older than herself that is desperately trying to get into her knickers.
 
2013-04-02 08:09:09 PM  

Nidiot: Just because the fat, balding, middle-aged, not rich or famous guy, really, really wants a young hottie to bone, it doesn't mean he has a real chance of getting one.


You'd be amazed at who teenage chicks would fark for a bag of weed and some booze.
 
2013-04-02 08:12:31 PM  

filter: I meet my girls on craigslist--- always give my wife the girl's phone number. We usually do a reverse look-up to vet them out before the meetup. Thank god the age of consent is so low around here-- else I would be a real creep.


Hey, I have some great news for you! The age of consent in your area has nothing to do with your creepiness!
 
2013-04-02 08:16:20 PM  

missmez: If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.


That's bizarrely arbitrary. Not that age of consent isn't arbitrary anyway, but 22? That's just weird. You're telling me that people would be old enough to go to war and old enough to drink and old enough to drive and old enough to start their own company and old enough to get a home loan....but not old enough to pick their own sexual partners? You're quite an authoritarian.
 
2013-04-02 08:50:22 PM  

untaken_name: missmez: If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.

That's bizarrely arbitrary. Not that age of consent isn't arbitrary anyway, but 22? That's just weird. You're telling me that people would be old enough to go to war and old enough to drink and old enough to drive and old enough to start their own company and old enough to get a home loan....but not old enough to pick their own sexual partners? You're quite an authoritarian.


She's probably a mother.
 
2013-04-02 09:05:18 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: untaken_name: missmez: If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.

That's bizarrely arbitrary. Not that age of consent isn't arbitrary anyway, but 22? That's just weird. You're telling me that people would be old enough to go to war and old enough to drink and old enough to drive and old enough to start their own company and old enough to get a home loan....but not old enough to pick their own sexual partners? You're quite an authoritarian.

She's probably a mother.


Potato, potahto.
 
2013-04-03 01:26:29 AM  

untaken_name: filter: I meet my girls on craigslist--- always give my wife the girl's phone number. We usually do a reverse look-up to vet them out before the meetup. Thank god the age of consent is so low around here-- else I would be a real creep.

Hey, I have some great news for you! The age of consent in your area has nothing to do with your creepiness!


Exactly, creepiness is to do with how much younger the girl is than you. If the sixteen year old has an eighteen year old boyfriend, the boyfriend is not a creep, but if an eighteen year old girl has a forty year old man hitting on her, that guy is a creep.
 
2013-04-03 02:13:36 AM  

untaken_name: missmez: If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.

That's bizarrely arbitrary. Not that age of consent isn't arbitrary anyway, but 22? That's just weird. You're telling me that people would be old enough to go to war and old enough to drink and old enough to drive and old enough to start their own company and old enough to get a home loan....but not old enough to pick their own sexual partners? You're quite an authoritarian.


You're not paying attention.  I'm not saying they should't fark, I'm saying they shouldn't box outside their weight.  Now that you bring it up, I'm changing it to 28.
 
2013-04-03 03:58:05 AM  

missmez: untaken_name: missmez: If I had my way the age of consent would be 22 outside of the kid's peer group, and Im an atheist.

That's bizarrely arbitrary. Not that age of consent isn't arbitrary anyway, but 22? That's just weird. You're telling me that people would be old enough to go to war and old enough to drink and old enough to drive and old enough to start their own company and old enough to get a home loan....but not old enough to pick their own sexual partners? You're quite an authoritarian.

You're not paying attention.  I'm not saying they should't fark, I'm saying they shouldn't box outside their weight.  Now that you bring it up, I'm changing it to 28.


I'm sure you would have been just fine with someone you don't know and never met arbitrarily limiting your sexual partners for you at that age (assuming you have even indeed reached it). Yet you would do that to others now that its effects cannot be imposed on you. How perfectly awful of you. Why not decide you're going to raise the driving age to 40, while you're at it? And then somehow try to claim that you're not authoritarian. Lol.
 
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