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2013-04-02 01:09:22 AM  
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Seriously. It makes perfectly good sense to me. More airlines should do this.

/not just saying this because I only weigh about 65kg
 
2013-04-02 01:12:32 AM  
what's curious about this, is it's Samoa Air.  Samoan's aren't renowned for their, erm, marathon runners
 
2013-04-02 01:23:01 AM  
I'm OK with this.
 
2013-04-02 02:26:23 AM  
Damn, this is going to increase the costs when I need my 300-pound Samoan attorney.
 
2013-04-02 02:43:34 AM  

mamoru: /not just saying this because I only weigh about 65kg


sixty five THOUSAND grams???

OMG! put down that tub o'lard you're eating fatty.
 
2013-04-02 03:35:53 AM  

log_jammin: mamoru: /not just saying this because I only weigh about 65kg

sixty five THOUSAND grams???

OMG! put down that tub o'lard you're eating fatty.


I prefer to think of it as 0.065 metric tons. It's not a bad weight considering I am 5.67 light-nanoseconds tall. ;)
 
2013-04-02 04:12:57 AM  

ADHD Librarian: Damn, this is going to increase the costs when I need my 300-pound Samoan attorney.


Maybe you should just road trip, then.
 
2013-04-02 04:13:08 AM  
Well as our votes are counted as proportionate to our size as well, I have no problem with this.
 
2013-04-02 04:15:42 AM  

ISO15693: Well as our votes are counted as proportionate to our size as well, I have no problem with this.


As LONG AS our votes.... etc
 
2013-04-02 04:17:58 AM  

ISO15693: ISO15693: Well as our votes are counted as proportionate to our size as well, I have no problem with this.

As LONG AS our votes.... etc


Why, does it take more fuel to haul around your giant useless votes?
 
2013-04-02 04:19:12 AM  
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Not amused.
 
2013-04-02 04:19:22 AM  
They're going to start giving out all of the banned Big Gulps from NY in the waiting area.
 
2013-04-02 04:33:25 AM  
Small airplanes= different rules. Makes sense. Sorry. Airliners can carry loads not experienced by single propeller airplanes. Physics. What a biatch.
 
2013-04-02 04:43:09 AM  
If this entitles fat people to a larger seat, fine.
 
2013-04-02 04:43:43 AM  
This sounds like a great idea in theory, mostly because I'm skinny.  But how would a price by weight system work for anything but the smallest airlines?  Obviously everyone is going to lie to save money and you can't weigh everyone AND all their bags at the ticket counter.  The random weight screenings would be as big of a shiat show as the random security screenings are now.
 
2013-04-02 04:52:13 AM  

Baryogenesis: and you can't weigh everyone AND all their bags at the ticket counter.


why couldn't you? The bags get weighed when you hand them over and takes about second to do. Just have a big momma sized scale directly infront of the counter that weighs the passenger as soon as they hand over their bags.
 
2013-04-02 04:59:21 AM  
So now you're gonna be able to get a colonic at the airport just to shed a few pounds before weigh-in?
Now if you combine a cleansing bar with the TSA security check you'll have saved a few minutes.

In fact, they should expand this and have a doctor at the x-ray machine:
"You have a hairline fracture on your ulna, the marble you stuffed up you nose when you were 8 is still in there.
That'll be be § 200 and have a nice flight!"

And they could train the TSA to check prostates!
 
2013-04-02 04:59:41 AM  

American Decency Association: what's curious about this, is it's Samoa Air.  Samoan's aren't renowned for their, erm, marathon runners



aka.media.entertainment.sky.com

"What's the ni**a gonna do? He's Samoan"
 
2013-04-02 04:59:54 AM  
I assume fuel cost is a function of the ratio of total of all of the passengers' weight to the weight of the aircraft. I can picture it as a big hit for small planes, but how much does it come into consideration for the larger ones?
 
2013-04-02 05:12:05 AM  
If ever implemented by major lines this would be, like everything they do, a simple money grab. Do skinny people actually think THEIR seats are going to long term be cheaper? oh how I am laughing.
 
2013-04-02 05:14:02 AM  
This article peaked my curiosity on a subject I know little about, weight-cutting. I found a Wikipedia article with this gem:

"Athletes should remember to urinate and defecate as this is an easy way to reduce weight. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_cutting

/Overweight
//Only because I've forgotten to shat and piss for years!
 
2013-04-02 05:17:15 AM  
Regrettably this kind of change probably won't make the seats more comfortable, the staff less rude, the food more tasty, or the service any better. Prices will keep going up and service rendered will keep going down. And also the staff will be paid less. Did I mention they'll probably apply these "weight costs" to staff that weigh too much?

Minus the corrupt American air system, I do think charging by weight is perfectly fair though.
 
2013-04-02 05:51:31 AM  
Works for me.

3 Quatloos!
 
2013-04-02 06:22:05 AM  
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2013-04-02 06:28:34 AM  

gaspode: If ever implemented by major lines this would be, like everything they do, a simple money grab. Do skinny people actually think THEIR seats are going to long term be cheaper? oh how I am laughing.


I don't care about the price as much as I don't want to be pinned to the bulkhead by an unwashed roll of fat.
 
2013-04-02 06:36:31 AM  

L.D. Ablo: gaspode: If ever implemented by major lines this would be, like everything they do, a simple money grab. Do skinny people actually think THEIR seats are going to long term be cheaper? oh how I am laughing.

I don't care about the price as much as I don't want to be pinned to the bulkhead by an unwashed roll of fat.


How does charging by weight eliminate that? People will still need to get where they're going in a limited amount of time.
 
2013-04-02 06:54:34 AM  
lulz at people who biatch about how 'expensive' airfare is. NY to LA in 5 hours? For about 300 bucks? That's farking magic.
 
2013-04-02 07:06:28 AM  
If only a single mom had discovered this one wierd trick to get rid of belly fat...
 
2013-04-02 07:12:15 AM  
Time to setup an x-lax kiosk right outside of security.  Spend $2, take a shiat, save $5!
 
2013-04-02 07:22:44 AM  
If they're charging by weight instead of by seat, does that mean a fat person can request 2 seats and still pay for just his weight?
 
2013-04-02 07:24:07 AM  

mamoru: log_jammin: mamoru: /not just saying this because I only weigh about 65kg

sixty five THOUSAND grams???

OMG! put down that tub o'lard you're eating fatty.

I prefer to think of it as 0.065 metric tons. It's not a bad weight considering I am 5.67 light-nanoseconds tall. ;)


Ha! More like 65,000,000,000 micrograms!

If you lived in England though, you'd only weigh 10. Why they weigh themselves in units of an old rock band that started in the '60s is beyond me.
 
2013-04-02 07:25:30 AM  

robohobo: lulz at people who biatch about how 'expensive' airfare is. NY to LA in 5 hours? For about 300 bucks? That's farking magic.


This is true.  It used to be a rare treat to fly anywhere.  You had to be at least solidly middle class, if not upper.  Now the great unwashed can fly.  $1300 from LA to Auckland is not expensive.
 
2013-04-02 07:26:08 AM  

fozziewazzi: If they're charging by weight instead of by seat, does that mean a fat person can request 2 seats and still pay for just his weight?


No.  He could pay half of his weight for each.
 
2013-04-02 07:28:06 AM  

sanriosucks: If only a single mom had discovered this one wierd trick to get rid of belly fat...


That's okay. Scientists have discovered a capsule which reduces cortisol which makes belly fat.


/capsules are natuarly existing?
 
2013-04-02 07:31:05 AM  
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So they are going to charge by how much Psoriasis you have?

That's fine with me. These people should not be sharing my arm rest, and if higher costs make them take a bus with other undesirables, then good.
 
2013-04-02 07:40:23 AM  
Set up large floor scales at the airport. The passenger and all his / her baggage goes on the scale. Multiply by pr kilo price and thats what you pay. If the passenger needs a second seat due to butt-width, add a small additional fee (because this means there's room for one less normal-size passenger on the plane). Maybe set up an XXXL seat section for the, uh, wide passengers.
 
2013-04-02 07:51:30 AM  

log_jammin: Baryogenesis: and you can't weigh everyone AND all their bags at the ticket counter.

why couldn't you? The bags get weighed when you hand them over and takes about second to do. Just have a big momma sized scale directly infront of the counter that weighs the passenger as soon as they hand over their bags.


Sure, they weigh your checked bags.  What about people with just carry ons?  Now all those folks have to stand in line too.  We have plenty of people who still don't know the basic procedure for going through security and now there's another hassle.  I can see it now!  "Please step on the scale.  Yes, with your jacket on.  Yes, bags too.  Yes, your carry ons too.  Your bag isn't all the way on the scale.  Sir, don't move yet.  Ok, 252 lbs total weight.  No sir, we can't use the result of your home scale.  No sir, I'm not calling you a liar.  No sir, I can't weigh you again, we need to keep the line moving.  Ok, your total is $200.  No, that's the one-way price.  Well, because we have to weigh you again on your return flight to know your total cost.  Don't worry sir, your price per pound was locked in at the time of your booking.  How will you be paying?  Very good, sir.  Next?"
 
hej
2013-04-02 07:55:56 AM  

rvesco: If this entitles fat people to a larger seat, fine.


They tend to spill over into neighboring seats anyways.
 
hej
2013-04-02 07:58:41 AM  

Baryogenesis: I can see it now!  "Please step on the scale.  Yes, with your jacket on.  Yes, bags too.  Yes, your carry ons too.  Your bag isn't all the way on the scale.  Sir, don't move yet.  Ok, 252 lbs total weight.  No sir, we can't use the result of your home scale.  No sir, I'm not calling you a liar.  No sir, I can't weigh you again, we need to keep the line moving.  Ok, your total is $200.  No, that's the one-way price.  Well, because we have to weigh you again on your return flight to know your total cost.  Don't worry sir, your price per pound was locked in at the time of your booking.  How will you be paying?  Very good, sir.  Next?"


So the check in process will go from taking 25 minutes to 26.5 minutes.  BFD.
 
2013-04-02 08:03:26 AM  
If an airline wants to charge you more, I'm not going to worry about whether or not you think it's fair. God says gluttony is a sin and I could go to hell if I treat you like normal people. The type of person God likes. The type of person God wants you to be one of, if you'd just quit stuffing your faces with everything your pudgy little hands can grab hold of.
 
2013-04-02 08:04:04 AM  

hej: Baryogenesis: I can see it now!  "Please step on the scale.  Yes, with your jacket on.  Yes, bags too.  Yes, your carry ons too.  Your bag isn't all the way on the scale.  Sir, don't move yet.  Ok, 252 lbs total weight.  No sir, we can't use the result of your home scale.  No sir, I'm not calling you a liar.  No sir, I can't weigh you again, we need to keep the line moving.  Ok, your total is $200.  No, that's the one-way price.  Well, because we have to weigh you again on your return flight to know your total cost.  Don't worry sir, your price per pound was locked in at the time of your booking.  How will you be paying?  Very good, sir.  Next?"

So the check in process will go from taking 25 minutes to 26.5 minutes.  BFD.


I really need to go to these incredibly well staffed, efficient airports you speak of.  Although, I mostly fly around holidays so that's part of the problem.
 
2013-04-02 08:05:51 AM  

MNguy: fozziewazzi: If they're charging by weight instead of by seat, does that mean a fat person can request 2 seats and still pay for just his weight?

No.  He could pay half of his weight for each.


So technically people are paying for mass and volume.
 
2013-04-02 08:08:32 AM  
You just KNOW the US carriers wouldnt be that straight forward (I'd imagine it would go something like this):


Welcome to "What's in YOUR wallet airlines..... I see you're going to Atlanta today, OK then please step on to the scale with your bags..." *typing*
So you've got your basic seat fee of $100
Then we take the weight of you and your bags... call that (112 kg)
The length of the flight is (1200 km)
Daily fuel cost based on the 10am New York Commodities Exchange price ($3.93/gallon plus our service charge for having fuel delivered)
Let's see, flying into a headwind today of 90 knots so that's a 1.03
You've got your standard 1.005 factor for every 20 minutes on the tarmac
Oh, and it looks like its Tuesday, your in luck since we have a Captain with 20 years experience on that leg today so 1.0042 for that...
Hmmmmm, seems Phil in baggage receiving  is ill today and Pedro is getting over time..... hmmmm 1.00033 for that.
It also seems we've let another CEO go with a $20 million dollar golden parachute.... your share of that is 1.07
I'll let t he computer handle the load balancing of the aircraft... ooh sorry, looks like your bag is going to have to arrive via Sydney... 1.12

After 5 minutes of calculations your handed a receipt that looks like one from the Coupon clipping show and they promise to let you know the actual cost of your ticket 20 minutes in to the flight after they've calculated how many feet of runway they used to get into the air.
 
2013-04-02 08:09:41 AM  

awalkingecho: ADHD Librarian: Damn, this is going to increase the costs when I need my 300-pound Samoan attorney.

Maybe you should just road trip, then.


Hey look, it's a letter from Johnny Depp, says he want's to go along . . .
 
2013-04-02 08:11:10 AM  

Uncle Tractor: Set up large floor scales at the airport. The passenger and all his / her baggage goes on the scale. Multiply by pr kilo price and thats what you pay. If the passenger needs a second seat due to butt-width, add a small additional fee (because this means there's room for one less normal-size passenger on the plane). Maybe set up an XXXL seat section for the, uh, wide passengers.


This is the one that bothers me. My butt fits very well in an airline seat the issue is my shoulders and height. If I'm on a smaller plane and have a window seat I'm leaning over my armrest to accommodate for the curve of the fuselage. Hell on my last business trip me and my technician were seated in the same row for all four legs of the trip. He's a body builder, I'm just a big guy. The whole trip the two of us must have looked like the letter V because our shoulders made us lean away from each other. By the time we landed on out return trip I was so cramped up and sore that I considered staying at the airport hotel for a swim and a hot shower rather than make the 1.5 hour drive home.

We all like to laugh about the fatties who need to buy two seats but a lot of airlines are cramming too many seats into their planes too.
 
2013-04-02 08:12:04 AM  

Baryogenesis: I really need to go to these incredibly well staffed, efficient airports you speak of. Although, I mostly fly around holidays so that's part of the problem.


Try East Asia. Sometimes stereotypes are just true. They're just so damn efficient.
 
2013-04-02 08:12:38 AM  
What happens if you can't sing?
 
2013-04-02 08:36:25 AM  

sanriosucks: If only a single mom had discovered this one wierd trick to get rid of belly fat...


I've discovered this one weird trick to get rid of fat.

Put the fork down.
 
2013-04-02 08:39:44 AM  
meal will not be in proportion to price paid. so sad.

and very tall people who look thin yet weigh much, too bad for you.
 
2013-04-02 08:43:09 AM  
KrispyKritter:

and very tall people who look thin yet weigh much, too bad for you.

It's based on weight, yes.  What's your point?
 
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