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(Denver Post)   Obvious: children like brownies and gummy bears. Bad: In Colorado, many of those are filled with THC, increasing the number of children in the ER for pot poisoning since 2009 by infinity   (denverpost.com) divider line 86
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2013-04-01 08:12:13 PM
6 votes:
And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.
2013-04-01 07:52:22 PM
6 votes:

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.


i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.
2013-04-01 07:38:58 PM
6 votes:
um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?
2013-04-01 09:28:55 PM
5 votes:
"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." - Paracelsus (1493-1541)
2013-04-01 09:28:13 PM
5 votes:
So instead of teaching your children not to eat candy that doesn't belong to them (or take things that don't belong to them in general) let's go ahead and punish everybody else.
2013-04-01 09:14:32 PM
5 votes:
"When children get admitted to the ICU, that's serious," Kosnett said. Symptoms may appear similar to meningitis, for example."

Wait, so a child was admitted to the ICU because of a pot overdose? Or because of being misdiagnosed with meningitis? You'd think this would be an important fact to include.

TFA sucks.
2013-04-01 09:31:19 PM
4 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: //still realize that pot is a psychoactive substance with unpredictable and potentially dangerous consequences for some users


It's potentially dangerous in the same way that water is. Anything can be misused, but people have fatally overdosed on water...still waiting for the first fatal pot overdose. Now, scary, that I can believe. I've seen some people freak the fark out when consuming too much "special" food. But they weren't harmed. The huge mass of brownie probably did more damage to them than the THC did. I'm all for keeping kids away from pot, because it's really scary when your kids are acting weird, but it's not going to cause any physical harm to them. Again, there is THC in breast milk. People give babies formula with HFCS in it and don't give a crap. Sugar's a lot worse, long-term, than THC. No one's up in arms about that because it doesn't <i>visibly</i> affect the kid like THC does. But by all means, let's worry about the tiny, tiny percentage of kids who ingest THC and forget about the giant population of babies sucking down sugar in their formula. It's an example of misaligned priorities.
2013-04-01 09:54:28 PM
3 votes:
The water comparison is lame and not applicable at all. Water does kill. Pot does not. Nobody in all recorded human history has ever directly overdosed on pot. Unlike water.

Beyond that, I'm a hardcore smoker of pot for about 45 years. I've lived in CO for 25 of those. Eating pot infused food can fark you right the fark up. If you didn't know you ate a drug, you'll be on your way to the ER wondering what the shiat is going on with your head.

The infused edibles made today are EXTREMELY potent. Not life threatening, but if eaten unaware of what you just ate, you may think you're about to perish.
2013-04-01 09:51:13 PM
3 votes:

CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.


Don't people pretty much lose their stuff every time an Applebee's waitress accidentally serves Junior a mixed drink in a sippy cup?
2013-04-01 09:29:36 PM
3 votes:

untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.


um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.


The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.
2013-04-01 09:22:05 PM
3 votes:
Stupid farking press, this would be the same thing if a child got into the "medicine cabinet" of mom and dad. The only difference would be that the child eating a crap ton of marijuana wouldn't die nor would they have any short or long term consequences. If it were alcohol, they might die quickly if enough of the booze was consumed. So farking stupid that this is even an argument or debate anymore. Legalize, find ways to control improper use (driving, etc.) and stop listening to politicians or people that think it is PCP because they watched the video from the earlier 20th century that showed people going crazy on it as a PSA.

Farking tired of this shiat. Open your mind, severe the umbilical cord to mob reaction and realize this will not impact you at all. Stop being farking stupid and ignorant.
2013-04-01 09:08:14 PM
3 votes:
Oh, god. Pot brownies: Never Again. But THC is hardly deadly--you can't "overdose" on it in the clinical sense. Its effects during crazy large doses cause suffering, absolutely.
2013-04-01 07:46:20 PM
3 votes:
The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.
2013-04-01 11:28:40 PM
2 votes:
Lenny_da_Hog:

maxheck: You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.

See, yeah... Uh... When comparing LSD to marijuana, you should never start with "To be fair..."


I see what you're saying.... Maybe not a fair comparison. But I've seen people do some amazingly stupid things while stoned as well. I stand by my statement.
2013-04-01 10:17:08 PM
2 votes:
I can see I'm going to be blathering about this friend all thread... She later went for her doctorate in neurobiology, doing projects in endocannabinoids but due to intranacine politics backed off... There was another person at the same institution who was the acknolwledged and rather prickly god on the subject.

Evidently cannabinoids are one of those million-use chemicals in the brain. We have a farkton of receptors (which is why smoking pot has it's effect) and our inborn stuff has a heck of a lot of influence on how the brain develops.

Her opinion? Young people shouldn't smoke pot. Old people should smoke it often.
2013-04-01 10:14:24 PM
2 votes:

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


I love a good batch of brownies! But really, its only good if the chef knows what they are doing. Making cannabutter isn't that tough, but it is a process that must be done a certain way to get a high potency. The highest I've ever been in my life came from a batch of brownies I made a few yrs back and it was the most intense, fantastic thing I've ever experienced. I was considered a "stoner" back then, smoked all the time, and those brownies made me fly for two whole days.

I suppose much like any drug, the enjoyment varies from person to person, but I prefer my THC in a tasty treat.
2013-04-01 10:13:39 PM
2 votes:

Atomic Spunk: do many of you actually enjoy edibles


Here's how you enjoy it, Atomic Spunk.  You do a modest amount of edible, wait an hour, then you toke up.  The underlying edible high will not only give you quite a boost, it will also smooth out the come-down.
2013-04-01 09:59:46 PM
2 votes:

Unauthorized Bratwurst: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

Don't people pretty much lose their stuff every time an Applebee's waitress accidentally serves Junior a mixed drink in a sippy cup?


Mommy doesn't have as deep of pockets as Applebee's.
2013-04-01 09:50:03 PM
2 votes:

super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!


So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?
2013-04-01 09:46:28 PM
2 votes:
Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.
2013-04-01 09:43:14 PM
2 votes:

untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.


Huh, I did not know of this. This gives me new-found respect for adult lactation fetishists. Well, not really respect, but I kinda find them less creepy than before.
2013-04-01 09:42:33 PM
2 votes:

untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.


Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!
2013-04-01 09:34:00 PM
2 votes:

BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.


Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.
2013-04-01 09:28:37 PM
2 votes:
Make fun of "pot poisoning" all you want, I wouldn't treat this sort of thing any less seriously that someone who let their kid get drunk. All we need is one cute little kid to die of some complications even tangentially related to eating a pan-ful of pot brownies and this little legalization movement we've got going will likely take a surprisingly sharp turn for the f*cked.

That stuff is not for kids, people.
2013-04-01 09:26:41 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.
2013-04-01 09:24:08 PM
2 votes:

untaken_name: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.

0/10
You can do better than this.

/it's a true statement, though


Honestly, it's impossible to out-troll the potheads. Their honest-to-god opinions on weed are far more derpy than anything I could come up with.

/pro-legalization
//still realize that pot is a psychoactive substance with unpredictable and potentially dangerous consequences for some users
2013-04-01 09:16:02 PM
2 votes:
Look... just roll with the child-proofing measure if you care at all about keeping your new found privilege, Colorado.  Enough of these ''accidents'' and you will lose all the progress you made when all the helicopter moms throw a shiat fit.  Don't give them more reasons to cry.

/besides, it's probably just a good idea anyway.
2013-04-01 09:08:56 PM
2 votes:
We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.
2013-04-01 07:57:06 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.

i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.


Damn liberal media.
2013-04-01 07:36:39 PM
2 votes:
I think I may have the genetics researchers need to solve this problem - I have never been poisoned by an pot overdose.
2013-04-02 03:38:40 PM
1 votes:
Fark_Guy_Rob:
I've seen the full page ads promising weed-cards, same day, no questions asked, signed by a real doctor, cash only, no medical history required.
 I've seen the people going in and out of the weed shops.
I've seen inside the weed shops.


But have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion or watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?

All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Tiem to high.

/otoh, would have liked some mmj rather than the oxy i got after my neck surgery
//florida will probably be one of the last to get mmj
///too much 'south' in north florida and too many of 'those people' in south florida that the north floridians don't like
2013-04-02 02:42:36 PM
1 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: Could we please stop pretending there is anything medicinal about the weed in Colorado?


Didn't they kind of do that this past election when they voted in fully legal recreational weed? Now, presumably it doesn't matter if you need it for medicinal use or recreational use...
2013-04-02 08:54:36 AM
1 votes:
Why all the sandy 'ginas? The just want to use childproof packaging. Nobody us trying to take away your precious social crutch.

All this unwarrented anger makes me question all the"pot isn't addictive" talk.
2013-04-02 12:33:10 AM
1 votes:
Fun Fact: It is physically impossible to ingest a lethal dose of Marijuana. These kids were never in danger, but the people who left their edibles out should be prosecuted for negligence.
2013-04-02 12:22:00 AM
1 votes:
Reasonable arguments work about as well in pot threads as they do in religion threads.
2013-04-02 12:18:08 AM
1 votes:
Just because I'm an adult who has 100% respect for the law and would NEVER violate it in my undergraduate days, I am curious about how much pot qualifies as an overdose.

Like a 40 pound brick of it from 200 feet up?
2013-04-02 12:10:23 AM
1 votes:

thenumber5: sure Editable's are safe for an adult, but Children are going to have a shiat ton lower tolerance.


It's' too bad Fark's posts aren't editable.
2013-04-02 12:08:48 AM
1 votes:
does no one in this tread have the ability to think

sure Editable's are safe for an adult, but Children are going to have a shiat ton lower tolerance.

and it stands to reason a parent MAY freakout when they find there 3 year-old passed out and unresponsive
2013-04-01 11:49:20 PM
1 votes:
Booze is far far worse than weed.  And yes, people freak out when Applebees serves kids by mistake, but the freakout is at Applebees, not at booze itself.  The concern moms don't all start braying to ban all alcohol, they just tsk tsk at the dumb waitress.
2013-04-01 11:35:34 PM
1 votes:

rbuzby: fusillade762: rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

Mormons?

Why am I not being allowed to make sweeping generalizations? Gimme a pass please.

I'm an old Farker with 5 links approved, back before FARK went corporate, before 9/11 and before the oil hit the ...thing.  So ....


2002? Pfft. Newb.

;)
2013-04-01 11:29:10 PM
1 votes:
bullshiat.

I took 60 mgs and my friend took 90 and we tripped balls and i puked but you dont DIE. you just trip and go to sleep. I puked bc I ate too much. OH NOS!
2013-04-01 11:28:40 PM
1 votes:
I just want to suggest to my fellow FaRKERS....

That you imbibe some weed and listen to the entire "Alladin Sane" album (on that other video website if you have to) then come back to FARK, click on everything, and patronize it's sponsors.
2013-04-01 11:26:24 PM
1 votes:

teenage mutant ninja rapist: rbuzby: gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.


I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.

People who think weed is like heroin should be ignored made fun of and generally harassed till they remove their heads from their asses.

the people most against weed would benefit the most from it. Why people think a plant from the ground is terrible yet have no problem popping all kinds of chemicles because the doctor said so just boggles my mind.


That. Some people are going to do harder stuff regardless. But to equate a low-level psychedelic with heroin is the height of folly.
2013-04-01 11:22:20 PM
1 votes:

maxheck: You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.


See, yeah... Uh... When comparing LSD to marijuana, you should never start with "To be fair..."
2013-04-01 11:22:09 PM
1 votes:

rbuzby: gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.


I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.


People who think weed is like heroin should be ignored made fun of and generally harassed till they remove their heads from their asses.

the people most against weed would benefit the most from it. Why people think a plant from the ground is terrible yet have no problem popping all kinds of chemicles because the doctor said so just boggles my mind.
2013-04-01 11:21:21 PM
1 votes:

maxheck: gweilo8888:

maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)

I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.

We also talked about transgenic regular grass... "Yeah, I'm not sure that I approve of the neighbor kid's haircut, but he does come over every week and offer to cut the grass for free."

Odd thing is, said friend has a few patents to her name in transgenics. For all I know this has already happened.


I see you've never bought scotts Kentucky Green Fescue Seed.

;)
2013-04-01 11:15:46 PM
1 votes:
Lenny_da_Hog:


maxheck: To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.

Which hallucinogens were those?


You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.

I learned an amazing amount of practical psychology that way.

First rule was "All cars are real."

A useful talent in a trip-sitter is being big enough to yank people out of concert parking-lot traffic by their scruff.
2013-04-01 11:06:35 PM
1 votes:

maxheck: To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.


Which hallucinogens were those?
2013-04-01 11:03:00 PM
1 votes:
Weaver95:

still not seeing why this is any sort of major concern....cannabis simply isn't dangerous to the human body. you literally cannot 'take too much'. the human body either stores excess THC in fat cells or it eliminates it via normal means.

To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.


I wouldn't term the "poisoned" from a clinical standpoint...
2013-04-01 11:00:46 PM
1 votes:
I tried to commit suicide by overdosing on cannabis, but after the first two hits I felt better.
2013-04-01 10:57:35 PM
1 votes:
still not seeing why this is any sort of major concern....cannabis simply isn't dangerous to the human body.  you literally cannot 'take too much'.  the human body either stores excess THC in fat cells or it eliminates it via normal means.
2013-04-01 10:54:13 PM
1 votes:
Next time you think the US is nasty on drugs consider...

In the Golden Triangle countries of SE Asia, they have big signs right outside the airports explaining in multiple languages how use = life sentence and distribution = automatic death penalty. And yeah, that includes pot. I don't have a reference, but I was informed that there was even a case where someone was able to prove that the drugs in their system were ingested in another country, and they *still* were convicted on a blood test. To life. In an Asian prision.

Mind you, this is SE Asia, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't want the competition, but still. The US is stupid, but not that nasty.
2013-04-01 10:53:22 PM
1 votes:

scalpod: Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?

Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.


you DO know that cannabis is actually less toxic than water, right?
2013-04-01 10:43:58 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.


I'd ban it, because I don't like it and don't drink, and it would make me feel powerful to make everyone else's life miserable.
2013-04-01 10:40:25 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.


Mormon church confirms its members are allowed to drink coke and Pepsi.. but tea is still banned
2013-04-01 10:25:58 PM
1 votes:
solitary:

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.

Agreed, I feel like someone has slipped me a mickey.


CSB regarding eating pot....

A friend once ate a lot of Dream Cheese (grind some shake, stir it in to some cream cheese, nuke it until it's bubbly)

He pretty much passed out, slept well and, went to work the next day and felt fine until lunchtime when his body started metabolizing fat... He realized he had been talking to someone for the last 10 minutes and had no idea what the conversation was about. Sudden stoned-as-hell syndrome.
2013-04-01 10:23:45 PM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: rbuzby: Anybody who who pulls out the "FACEPALM" thing should be showing the pic of Picard doing it, or just don't bother.  This is FARK, not some place with no cool pics. Said I, the guy who doesn't know how to post pics here.

He wasn't worth the few seconds it would have taken to google the image.  Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.


Fair enough.
2013-04-01 10:20:54 PM
1 votes:
Kid eats "medicine".  Kid dies.  Tragedy, not news.

Kid eats medicine.  Kid recovers completely.  News.
2013-04-01 10:17:26 PM
1 votes:

Sgygus: Atomic Spunk: do many of you actually enjoy edibles

Here's how you enjoy it, Atomic Spunk.  You do a modest amount of edible, wait an hour, then you toke up.  The underlying edible high will not only give you quite a boost, it will also smooth out the come-down.


You. I like you.
2013-04-01 10:15:01 PM
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Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


Us regular smokers/vaporizers do not seem to enjoy medibles as much.  I think our tolerance is sometimes too high.  For me, I can get high by eating, but then I just get VERY sleepy. Then if I try to eat medibles again in the next few days, it doesn't do anything.

Eating is good if you have a long plane ride ahead of you, or if you are a once in a while person who needs help sleeping.  But for the regular herb consumer, I think vaporizing is the (eventual) way to go.

Vaporizing is a little less convenient than smoking, and that's good for me.  I don't over do it that way.  But it does work, and it is not smoking.  There is no "tar". And I get less burned out when I vape, compared to smoking.  It is a different way of consuming, but it works, its not smoke in your lungs, and you may use less, overall, albeit more per session.  And since I have been vaping...no more black phlegm or messed up throat do to harsh BT's.
2013-04-01 10:14:40 PM
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Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


Agreed,  I feel like someone has slipped me a mickey.
2013-04-01 10:06:43 PM
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super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.


Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.
2013-04-01 10:05:37 PM
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Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.
2013-04-01 10:04:38 PM
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gweilo8888:

maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)

I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.


We also talked about transgenic regular grass... "Yeah, I'm not sure that I approve of the neighbor kid's haircut, but he does come over every week and offer to cut the grass for free."

Odd thing is, said friend has a few patents to her name in transgenics. For all I know this has already happened.
2013-04-01 10:03:47 PM
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fusillade762: rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

Mormons?


Why am I not being allowed to make sweeping generalizations? Gimme a pass please.

I'm an old Farker with 5 links approved, back before FARK went corporate, before 9/11 and before the oil hit the ...thing.  So ....
2013-04-01 10:00:04 PM
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rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.


Mormons?
2013-04-01 09:58:00 PM
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MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


I have a friend who puts THC in all kinds of things. I tried some of his infused beef jerky the other month. Not so good IMO.

His caramel popcorn rules though. Too good really. You don't want to stop eating it even though you really should.
2013-04-01 09:54:10 PM
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gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.



I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.
2013-04-01 09:52:33 PM
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MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


ganji worms
2013-04-01 09:51:33 PM
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MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


You put it in real worms and it makes them gummi.
2013-04-01 09:51:32 PM
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maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)


I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.
2013-04-01 09:49:49 PM
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Pot poisoning?

What's the LD50 for THC again?

Jeez, folks... I'm not a fan of legalization (am of decrimininlization) but POT POISONING?
I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)
2013-04-01 09:43:28 PM
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TheShavingofOccam123: You can be poisoned by water. Just get too much of a good thing and it will kill you.


I'm pretty sure the worst we have to worry about here is the poison pen.
2013-04-01 09:42:32 PM
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"Medical" marijuana users aren't responsible parents.

Surprise, surprise.
2013-04-01 09:33:23 PM
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A Shambling Mound: Make fun of "pot poisoning" all you want, I wouldn't treat this sort of thing any less seriously that someone who let their kid get drunk. All we need is one cute little kid to die of some complications even tangentially related to eating a pan-ful of pot brownies and this little legalization movement we've got going will likely take a surprisingly sharp turn for the f*cked.

That stuff is not for kids, people.


My stepdad tried to scare me with a story about a kid who took one hit and had an allergic reaction. I blew him off when he couldn't respond after I made the same point about any drug they give you in a hospital, or a prescription drug you take at home.

/nothing wrong with respecting it, but kids won't take you seriously if you over-hype it either
2013-04-01 09:29:12 PM
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This About That: FTFA: "There are serious medical consequences for small children, though, even while marijuana advocates say an adult "overdose" of pot is nearly impossible."

Hey Denver Post: Isn't this where the information about WTF are the "serious consequences" might go? Or is it all BS?

Also, Denver Post and similar rags: Screwing up the simple cut-and-post by adding a paragraph of crap to it and cutting the quote in half seems unlikely to boost your circulation or ad revenue. Settle down, will you?


FTA: The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

Translation: Little Timmy won't stop staring at his hand and waving it around, he coughed a few times, and then he threw up his breakfast after eating that evil brownie out of his babbysitter's purse! He could have choked to death and died!
2013-04-01 09:24:22 PM
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Weaver95: OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.

i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.


i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press. the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that automatic firearms have killed thousands of innocent kids. None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.
2013-04-01 09:20:57 PM
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Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.


0/10
You can do better than this.

/it's a true statement, though
2013-04-01 09:16:38 PM
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Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


This. This is all just a bunch of squares trying to harsh our mellow. Pot cures cancer, no one Big Farma has it outlawed.
2013-04-01 09:16:04 PM
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wildcardjack: I could see a kid getting into the pot brownies and sitting down to watch hours of Adventure Time.

/Early college prep


The quietest kids time ever.
2013-04-01 09:15:20 PM
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Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


The point is over your head so far that even....ah fuggit.
2013-04-01 09:13:11 PM
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Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


I can imagine seeing your kids stoned out of their gourd and not being able to figure out what was wrong with them as a possible issue.

Still, I've never heard of anyone being poisoned from a pot brownie or gummy bear.
2013-04-01 09:10:42 PM
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I could see a kid getting into the pot brownies and sitting down to watch hours of Adventure Time.

/Early college prep
2013-04-01 09:09:09 PM
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2013-04-01 08:13:57 PM
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CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.


well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.
2013-04-01 07:43:19 PM
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Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


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