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(Denver Post)   Obvious: children like brownies and gummy bears. Bad: In Colorado, many of those are filled with THC, increasing the number of children in the ER for pot poisoning since 2009 by infinity   (denverpost.com) divider line 209
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2013-04-01 07:36:39 PM  
I think I may have the genetics researchers need to solve this problem - I have never been poisoned by an pot overdose.
 
2013-04-01 07:38:58 PM  
um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?
 
2013-04-01 07:43:19 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


i240.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-01 07:46:20 PM  
The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.
 
2013-04-01 07:52:22 PM  

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.


i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.
 
2013-04-01 07:57:06 PM  

Weaver95: OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.

i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.


Damn liberal media.
 
2013-04-01 08:12:13 PM  
And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.
 
2013-04-01 08:13:57 PM  

CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.


well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.
 
2013-04-01 09:05:14 PM  
FTFA: "There are serious medical consequences for small children, though, even while marijuana advocates say an adult "overdose" of pot is nearly impossible."

Hey Denver Post: Isn't this where the information about WTF are the "serious consequences" might go? Or is it all BS?

Also, Denver Post and similar rags: Screwing up the simple cut-and-post by adding a paragraph of crap to it and cutting the quote in half seems unlikely to boost your circulation or ad revenue. Settle down, will you?
 
2013-04-01 09:08:14 PM  
Oh, god. Pot brownies: Never Again. But THC is hardly deadly--you can't "overdose" on it in the clinical sense. Its effects during crazy large doses cause suffering, absolutely.
 
2013-04-01 09:08:56 PM  
We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.
 
2013-04-01 09:09:09 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-01 09:10:11 PM  
Too lazy to find the link of that cop who stole that pot from someone instead of ticketing him and he and his wife baked up some extra strong brownies and called 911 to report that they were tripping real bad man.


/Won't someone think of the children!!!!
//Don't worry mamm, the catholic priest is on his way.
///Oh, never mind then.
 
2013-04-01 09:10:42 PM  
I could see a kid getting into the pot brownies and sitting down to watch hours of Adventure Time.

/Early college prep
 
2013-04-01 09:13:11 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


I can imagine seeing your kids stoned out of their gourd and not being able to figure out what was wrong with them as a possible issue.

Still, I've never heard of anyone being poisoned from a pot brownie or gummy bear.
 
2013-04-01 09:14:32 PM  
"When children get admitted to the ICU, that's serious," Kosnett said. Symptoms may appear similar to meningitis, for example."

Wait, so a child was admitted to the ICU because of a pot overdose? Or because of being misdiagnosed with meningitis? You'd think this would be an important fact to include.

TFA sucks.
 
2013-04-01 09:15:15 PM  
Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.
 
2013-04-01 09:15:20 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


The point is over your head so far that even....ah fuggit.
 
2013-04-01 09:16:02 PM  
Look... just roll with the child-proofing measure if you care at all about keeping your new found privilege, Colorado.  Enough of these ''accidents'' and you will lose all the progress you made when all the helicopter moms throw a shiat fit.  Don't give them more reasons to cry.

/besides, it's probably just a good idea anyway.
 
2013-04-01 09:16:04 PM  

wildcardjack: I could see a kid getting into the pot brownies and sitting down to watch hours of Adventure Time.

/Early college prep


The quietest kids time ever.
 
2013-04-01 09:16:06 PM  
FTA: In the following two years, when medical marijuana became legal in Colorado and federal officials backed off prosecution, it had 14.

Colorado has about 5 million children. Apparently having priorities isn't a priority in Colorado.
 
2013-04-01 09:16:38 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


This. This is all just a bunch of squares trying to harsh our mellow. Pot cures cancer, no one Big Farma has it outlawed.
 
2013-04-01 09:20:57 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.


0/10
You can do better than this.

/it's a true statement, though
 
2013-04-01 09:22:05 PM  
Stupid farking press, this would be the same thing if a child got into the "medicine cabinet" of mom and dad. The only difference would be that the child eating a crap ton of marijuana wouldn't die nor would they have any short or long term consequences. If it were alcohol, they might die quickly if enough of the booze was consumed. So farking stupid that this is even an argument or debate anymore. Legalize, find ways to control improper use (driving, etc.) and stop listening to politicians or people that think it is PCP because they watched the video from the earlier 20th century that showed people going crazy on it as a PSA.

Farking tired of this shiat. Open your mind, severe the umbilical cord to mob reaction and realize this will not impact you at all. Stop being farking stupid and ignorant.
 
2013-04-01 09:23:32 PM  
My secretary, Cheryl Tunt, calls them groovy bears.
 
2013-04-01 09:24:08 PM  

untaken_name: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.

0/10
You can do better than this.

/it's a true statement, though


Honestly, it's impossible to out-troll the potheads. Their honest-to-god opinions on weed are far more derpy than anything I could come up with.

/pro-legalization
//still realize that pot is a psychoactive substance with unpredictable and potentially dangerous consequences for some users
 
2013-04-01 09:24:22 PM  

Weaver95: OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die. Some freaked out parent (I wonder why) gets all up in arms about their little snowflake and everyone else has to pay the price.

i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.


i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press. the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that automatic firearms have killed thousands of innocent kids. None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.
 
2013-04-01 09:25:39 PM  
Nothing to see here folks, move along...

2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com
 
2013-04-01 09:26:41 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.
 
2013-04-01 09:26:54 PM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?




i184.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-01 09:28:13 PM  
So instead of teaching your children not to eat candy that doesn't belong to them (or take things that don't belong to them in general) let's go ahead and punish everybody else.
 
2013-04-01 09:28:17 PM  
Are we celebrating Halloween twice a year, now?
 
2013-04-01 09:28:37 PM  
Make fun of "pot poisoning" all you want, I wouldn't treat this sort of thing any less seriously that someone who let their kid get drunk. All we need is one cute little kid to die of some complications even tangentially related to eating a pan-ful of pot brownies and this little legalization movement we've got going will likely take a surprisingly sharp turn for the f*cked.

That stuff is not for kids, people.
 
2013-04-01 09:28:55 PM  
"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." - Paracelsus (1493-1541)
 
2013-04-01 09:29:12 PM  

This About That: FTFA: "There are serious medical consequences for small children, though, even while marijuana advocates say an adult "overdose" of pot is nearly impossible."

Hey Denver Post: Isn't this where the information about WTF are the "serious consequences" might go? Or is it all BS?

Also, Denver Post and similar rags: Screwing up the simple cut-and-post by adding a paragraph of crap to it and cutting the quote in half seems unlikely to boost your circulation or ad revenue. Settle down, will you?


FTA: The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

Translation: Little Timmy won't stop staring at his hand and waving it around, he coughed a few times, and then he threw up his breakfast after eating that evil brownie out of his babbysitter's purse! He could have choked to death and died!
 
2013-04-01 09:29:36 PM  

untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.


um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.


The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.
 
2013-04-01 09:31:19 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: //still realize that pot is a psychoactive substance with unpredictable and potentially dangerous consequences for some users


It's potentially dangerous in the same way that water is. Anything can be misused, but people have fatally overdosed on water...still waiting for the first fatal pot overdose. Now, scary, that I can believe. I've seen some people freak the fark out when consuming too much "special" food. But they weren't harmed. The huge mass of brownie probably did more damage to them than the THC did. I'm all for keeping kids away from pot, because it's really scary when your kids are acting weird, but it's not going to cause any physical harm to them. Again, there is THC in breast milk. People give babies formula with HFCS in it and don't give a crap. Sugar's a lot worse, long-term, than THC. No one's up in arms about that because it doesn't <i>visibly</i> affect the kid like THC does. But by all means, let's worry about the tiny, tiny percentage of kids who ingest THC and forget about the giant population of babies sucking down sugar in their formula. It's an example of misaligned priorities.
 
2013-04-01 09:32:48 PM  
FOURTEEN? 2 YEARS? OH MY GODDDDD
 
2013-04-01 09:33:23 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Make fun of "pot poisoning" all you want, I wouldn't treat this sort of thing any less seriously that someone who let their kid get drunk. All we need is one cute little kid to die of some complications even tangentially related to eating a pan-ful of pot brownies and this little legalization movement we've got going will likely take a surprisingly sharp turn for the f*cked.

That stuff is not for kids, people.


My stepdad tried to scare me with a story about a kid who took one hit and had an allergic reaction. I blew him off when he couldn't respond after I made the same point about any drug they give you in a hospital, or a prescription drug you take at home.

/nothing wrong with respecting it, but kids won't take you seriously if you over-hype it either
 
2013-04-01 09:33:45 PM  

Lucky LaRue: I think I may have the genetics researchers need to solve this problem - I have never been poisoned by an pot overdose.


I died from a pot overdose once...
 
2013-04-01 09:34:00 PM  

BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.


Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.
 
2013-04-01 09:37:30 PM  
Why won't subby think of all of the children on chemo and with glaucoma?

/if you want to get high, you gotta break a few eggs
 
2013-04-01 09:38:33 PM  
You can be poisoned by water. Just get too much of a good thing and it will kill you.
 
2013-04-01 09:42:32 PM  
"Medical" marijuana users aren't responsible parents.

Surprise, surprise.
 
2013-04-01 09:42:33 PM  

untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.


Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!
 
2013-04-01 09:43:14 PM  

untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.


Huh, I did not know of this. This gives me new-found respect for adult lactation fetishists. Well, not really respect, but I kinda find them less creepy than before.
 
2013-04-01 09:43:28 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: You can be poisoned by water. Just get too much of a good thing and it will kill you.


I'm pretty sure the worst we have to worry about here is the poison pen.
 
2013-04-01 09:46:28 PM  
Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.
 
2013-04-01 09:49:49 PM  
Pot poisoning?

What's the LD50 for THC again?

Jeez, folks... I'm not a fan of legalization (am of decrimininlization) but POT POISONING?
I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)
 
2013-04-01 09:50:02 PM  

rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.


FTFY.
 
2013-04-01 09:50:03 PM  

super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!


So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?
 
2013-04-01 09:50:27 PM  
You can put THC in gummi worms?
 
2013-04-01 09:51:13 PM  

CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.


Don't people pretty much lose their stuff every time an Applebee's waitress accidentally serves Junior a mixed drink in a sippy cup?
 
2013-04-01 09:51:32 PM  

maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)


I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.
 
2013-04-01 09:51:33 PM  

MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


You put it in real worms and it makes them gummi.
 
2013-04-01 09:52:33 PM  

MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


ganji worms
 
2013-04-01 09:53:04 PM  
Ex-Lax brownies are still okay, right?

/Ah, good times
 
2013-04-01 09:54:10 PM  

gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.



I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.
 
2013-04-01 09:54:28 PM  
The water comparison is lame and not applicable at all. Water does kill. Pot does not. Nobody in all recorded human history has ever directly overdosed on pot. Unlike water.

Beyond that, I'm a hardcore smoker of pot for about 45 years. I've lived in CO for 25 of those. Eating pot infused food can fark you right the fark up. If you didn't know you ate a drug, you'll be on your way to the ER wondering what the shiat is going on with your head.

The infused edibles made today are EXTREMELY potent. Not life threatening, but if eaten unaware of what you just ate, you may think you're about to perish.
 
2013-04-01 09:56:16 PM  
Am I the only one thinking these kids were trying to get high and got caught/took too much?
 
2013-04-01 09:57:18 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?


The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.
 
2013-04-01 09:57:34 PM  
paragraph!!!
 
2013-04-01 09:58:00 PM  

MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


I have a friend who puts THC in all kinds of things. I tried some of his infused beef jerky the other month. Not so good IMO.

His caramel popcorn rules though. Too good really. You don't want to stop eating it even though you really should.
 
2013-04-01 09:58:15 PM  
By infinity?

Show your work. SHOW IT!

/also, I like math porn.
 
2013-04-01 09:58:23 PM  

Weaver95:
i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.

Yes, of course.  Everyone who is against the legalization of weed is no different from Pinochet, Videla, and Franco.

A Shambling Mound: Make fun of "pot poisoning" all you want, I wouldn't treat this sort of thing any less seriously that someone who let their kid get drunk. All we need is one cute little kid to die of some complications even tangentially related to eating a pan-ful of pot brownies and this little legalization movement we've got going will likely take a surprisingly sharp turn for the f*cked.

That stuff is not for kids, people.



I'd guess that half its market here is under-21s.
 
2013-04-01 09:59:46 PM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

Don't people pretty much lose their stuff every time an Applebee's waitress accidentally serves Junior a mixed drink in a sippy cup?


Mommy doesn't have as deep of pockets as Applebee's.
 
2013-04-01 10:00:04 PM  

rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.


Mormons?
 
2013-04-01 10:03:47 PM  

fusillade762: rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

Mormons?


Why am I not being allowed to make sweeping generalizations? Gimme a pass please.

I'm an old Farker with 5 links approved, back before FARK went corporate, before 9/11 and before the oil hit the ...thing.  So ....
 
2013-04-01 10:04:38 PM  
gweilo8888:

maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)

I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.


We also talked about transgenic regular grass... "Yeah, I'm not sure that I approve of the neighbor kid's haircut, but he does come over every week and offer to cut the grass for free."

Odd thing is, said friend has a few patents to her name in transgenics. For all I know this has already happened.
 
2013-04-01 10:05:12 PM  

CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.


Unless its served to them in a sippy cup at an Applebee's. Then everyone loses their shiat
 
2013-04-01 10:05:37 PM  
Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.
 
2013-04-01 10:06:43 PM  

super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.


Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.
 
2013-04-01 10:06:44 PM  
Still no cure for missing slash-I tags and preview.
 
2013-04-01 10:07:25 PM  

Unauthorized Bratwurst: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

Don't people pretty much lose their stuff every time an Applebee's waitress accidentally serves Junior a mixed drink in a sippy cup?


Oh god damnit that's what I get for not reading the thread first. Here I am thinking I'm being all witty with my Applebee's comment, and you beat me to it.
 
2013-04-01 10:07:31 PM  
I got pot poisoning one time
 
2013-04-01 10:08:49 PM  
I overdosed on pot once
 
2013-04-01 10:08:53 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.

Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.


Yup, nothing wrong with a little naturalist fallacy.

It's taking it to its contradictory conclusion that's wrong.
 
2013-04-01 10:09:13 PM  

osnap: I got pot poisoning one time


Yeah. You were wasted.

/you're welcome for the pictures
 
2013-04-01 10:11:35 PM  
Pot poisoning

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-01 10:12:35 PM  
img819.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-01 10:13:39 PM  

Atomic Spunk: do many of you actually enjoy edibles


Here's how you enjoy it, Atomic Spunk.  You do a modest amount of edible, wait an hour, then you toke up.  The underlying edible high will not only give you quite a boost, it will also smooth out the come-down.
 
2013-04-01 10:13:49 PM  
First time I ever made brownies I decided to make pot brownies. Unfortunately I didn't know you're not supposed to squish the brownie mix down in the pan. The were hard as a rock but I wasn't going to waste perfectly good,although tough to chew,weed brownies. That day at the festival was fun as fark with me just wandering around riding rides and eating rock hard brownies although my friend had to drag me away from a dude holding a huge white and yellow python.
 
2013-04-01 10:14:24 PM  

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


I love a good batch of brownies! But really, its only good if the chef knows what they are doing. Making cannabutter isn't that tough, but it is a process that must be done a certain way to get a high potency. The highest I've ever been in my life came from a batch of brownies I made a few yrs back and it was the most intense, fantastic thing I've ever experienced. I was considered a "stoner" back then, smoked all the time, and those brownies made me fly for two whole days.

I suppose much like any drug, the enjoyment varies from person to person, but I prefer my THC in a tasty treat.
 
2013-04-01 10:14:40 PM  

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


Agreed,  I feel like someone has slipped me a mickey.
 
2013-04-01 10:15:01 PM  

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


Us regular smokers/vaporizers do not seem to enjoy medibles as much.  I think our tolerance is sometimes too high.  For me, I can get high by eating, but then I just get VERY sleepy. Then if I try to eat medibles again in the next few days, it doesn't do anything.

Eating is good if you have a long plane ride ahead of you, or if you are a once in a while person who needs help sleeping.  But for the regular herb consumer, I think vaporizing is the (eventual) way to go.

Vaporizing is a little less convenient than smoking, and that's good for me.  I don't over do it that way.  But it does work, and it is not smoking.  There is no "tar". And I get less burned out when I vape, compared to smoking.  It is a different way of consuming, but it works, its not smoke in your lungs, and you may use less, overall, albeit more per session.  And since I have been vaping...no more black phlegm or messed up throat do to harsh BT's.
 
2013-04-01 10:17:08 PM  
I can see I'm going to be blathering about this friend all thread... She later went for her doctorate in neurobiology, doing projects in endocannabinoids but due to intranacine politics backed off... There was another person at the same institution who was the acknolwledged and rather prickly god on the subject.

Evidently cannabinoids are one of those million-use chemicals in the brain. We have a farkton of receptors (which is why smoking pot has it's effect) and our inborn stuff has a heck of a lot of influence on how the brain develops.

Her opinion? Young people shouldn't smoke pot. Old people should smoke it often.
 
2013-04-01 10:17:10 PM  

super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.

Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.

Yup, nothing wrong with a little naturalist fallacy.

It's taking it to its contradictory conclusion that's wrong.


*sigh*

/facepalm
 
2013-04-01 10:17:26 PM  

Sgygus: Atomic Spunk: do many of you actually enjoy edibles

Here's how you enjoy it, Atomic Spunk.  You do a modest amount of edible, wait an hour, then you toke up.  The underlying edible high will not only give you quite a boost, it will also smooth out the come-down.


You. I like you.
 
2013-04-01 10:18:03 PM  

Barbecue Bob: The water comparison is lame and not applicable at all. Water does kill. Pot does not. Nobody in all recorded human history has ever directly overdosed on pot. Unlike water.

Beyond that, I'm a hardcore smoker of pot for about 45 years. I've lived in CO for 25 of those. Eating pot infused food can fark you right the fark up. If you didn't know you ate a drug, you'll be on your way to the ER wondering what the shiat is going on with your head.

The infused edibles made today are EXTREMELY potent. Not life threatening, but if eaten unaware of what you just ate, you may think you're about to perish.


You mean false analogies are false? Whowouldathunkit?!
 
2013-04-01 10:18:57 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.

Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.

Yup, nothing wrong with a little naturalist fallacy.

It's taking it to its contradictory conclusion that's wrong.

*sigh*

/facepalm


What a well-thought rebuttal.

*presses add comment button*
 
2013-04-01 10:19:11 PM  

maxheck: I can see I'm going to be blathering about this friend all thread... She later went for her doctorate in neurobiology, doing projects in endocannabinoids but due to intranacine politics backed off... There was another person at the same institution who was the acknolwledged and rather prickly god on the subject.

Evidently cannabinoids are one of those million-use chemicals in the brain. We have a farkton of receptors (which is why smoking pot has it's effect) and our inborn stuff has a heck of a lot of influence on how the brain develops.

Her opinion? Young people shouldn't smoke pot. Old people should smoke it often.


My compliments to your friend

/Cheers!
 
2013-04-01 10:20:04 PM  
I sure hope nobody ever compares weed to alcohol or cocaine or other controlled substances, because, you know, that'd be wrong.
 
2013-04-01 10:20:54 PM  
Kid eats "medicine".  Kid dies.  Tragedy, not news.

Kid eats medicine.  Kid recovers completely.  News.
 
2013-04-01 10:21:40 PM  
Anybody who who pulls out the "FACEPALM" thing should be showing the pic of Picard doing it, or just don't bother.  This is FARK, not some place with no cool pics. Said I, the guy who doesn't know how to post pics here.
 
2013-04-01 10:22:59 PM  

rbuzby: Anybody who who pulls out the "FACEPALM" thing should be showing the pic of Picard doing it, or just don't bother.  This is FARK, not some place with no cool pics. Said I, the guy who doesn't know how to post pics here.


He wasn't worth the few seconds it would have taken to google the image.  Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.
 
2013-04-01 10:23:45 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: rbuzby: Anybody who who pulls out the "FACEPALM" thing should be showing the pic of Picard doing it, or just don't bother.  This is FARK, not some place with no cool pics. Said I, the guy who doesn't know how to post pics here.

He wasn't worth the few seconds it would have taken to google the image.  Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.


Fair enough.
 
2013-04-01 10:23:48 PM  

super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.

Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.

Yup, nothing wrong with a little naturalist fallacy.

It's taking it to its contradictory conclusion that's wrong.

*sigh*

/facepalm

What a well-thought rebuttal.

*presses add comment button*


Says the guy who can't keep up a single argument.
 
2013-04-01 10:25:58 PM  
solitary:

Atomic Spunk: Slightly off topic, but do many of you actually enjoy edibles? I mean to the point where you enjoy it just as much as smoking/vaporizing or more? I've smoked a fair amount of weed in my lifetime, but each time I've tried edibles, I've been very disappointed by the high. It's not enjoyable at all, in fact I find myself getting a bit depressed. And it lasts too long. I've tried it 3 times before, and the second and third time I only did it hoping it'd get better, but it didn't. I don't think I'll try it again.

I can understand the need for these products because some people can't or don't want to smoke/vaporize. But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.

Agreed, I feel like someone has slipped me a mickey.


CSB regarding eating pot....

A friend once ate a lot of Dream Cheese (grind some shake, stir it in to some cream cheese, nuke it until it's bubbly)

He pretty much passed out, slept well and, went to work the next day and felt fine until lunchtime when his body started metabolizing fat... He realized he had been talking to someone for the last 10 minutes and had no idea what the conversation was about. Sudden stoned-as-hell syndrome.
 
2013-04-01 10:28:09 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: untaken_name: BlaqueKatt: untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.

um no
Mammals, including humans, produce endocannabinoids, which are THC-like compounds. These THC-like compounds include anandamide and 2-AG.

THC like=/=THC thank you for playing.

OregonVet: The kids will get over it.They won't die.

The cases studied at Children's included decreased levels of consciousness and breathing trouble. Children can also vomit from ingesting too much of a strong substance and aspirate the vomit.

because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.

Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.

Morphine is similar to dopamine, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain.  And from your reasoning, since it's naturally occurring, its synthetic counterpart cannot cause ill effect in any external dose.

So I urge you to prove him wrong by "overdosing" on morphine and show just how unharmed you are afterwards!

So between the THC in breast milk and the THC in cannabis, which one is the synthetic again?

The one that's closer to low-dose dopamines that occur naturally inside the body instead of high concentration opiates derived from poppies?

Remember: cyanide occurs naturally too.

Goal posts be all over the place in this biatch.

Yup, nothing wrong with a little naturalist fallacy.

It's taking it to its contradictory conclusion that's wrong.

*sigh*

/facepalm

What a well-thought rebuttal.

*presses add comment button*

Says the guy who can't keep up a single argument.


www.troll.me

I win.
 
2013-04-01 10:35:55 PM  

MayorOfJefferton: My secretary, Cheryl Tunt, calls them groovy bears.


What about you Ironsides, you rollin dirty?
 
2013-04-01 10:35:56 PM  
Anybody got a real vid of a young kid whacked on reefers? I've been knocked on my ass a few times when I was younger from powerhousing some dank, and I ate a big piece of cake once that really did the trick, so I know that stuff works. I could see a parent kind of losing their shiat seeing their 50 pound kid go limp and loopy. I want to know whose stuff it was in each of these "poison" cases. Is there a law or penalty against not locking up your booze and letting kids get sick on it?
 
2013-04-01 10:35:59 PM  
Gummy bears? No wonder the kids in the Haribo commercials are so happy all the time!

img515.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-01 10:37:44 PM  

megarian: By infinity?

Show your work. SHOW IT!

/also, I like math porn.


14/0 = infinity

/subby
 
2013-04-01 10:39:16 PM  

untaken_name: We must immediately criminalize breast milk for "pot poisoning" babies, since it contains naturally-occurring THC. Similarly, we must arrest those babies for being pot addicts since they all have THC receptors in their brains.


Possession is indicative of intent.
If we don't act now, none of us will be safe.
 
2013-04-01 10:40:25 PM  

Weaver95: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.


Mormon church confirms its members are allowed to drink coke and Pepsi.. but tea is still banned
 
2013-04-01 10:43:58 PM  

Weaver95: CraicBaby: And yet, if the same kid accidentally took a swig of Mommy's rum & Coke, no one would bat an eyelash.

well, I think the Mormons would but nobody ELSE would care.


I'd ban it, because I don't like it and don't drink, and it would make me feel powerful to make everyone else's life miserable.
 
2013-04-01 10:44:53 PM  

MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?



1. Feed worms weed
2. They turn into gum and die
3. Eat them
 
2013-04-01 10:48:19 PM  
King Something: i'm sure the authoritarians are just looking for an excuse to drum up some bad press.  the mainstream media will of course dutifully report on this incident and be appropriately grim about it, and the Feds will claim that cannabis poisoning has killed thousands of innocent kids.  None of which is even remotely true, and most people will simply ignore all the gloom and doom over this...but the news cycle has to be followed and permitted to run it's course.

Damn liberal media.


To be fair, it's the same "liberal media" that has resolutely whipped up hysteria about the possibility of your child dying in a school shooting (AND SO WE NEED TO BAN SCARY LOOKING RIFLES NOW!!!) even though the likelihood of their being victims is approximately equal to the likelihood of their being struck by lightning... from which we can conclude that sensationalism sells, unfortunately.
 
2013-04-01 10:53:22 PM  

scalpod: Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?

Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.


you DO know that cannabis is actually less toxic than water, right?
 
2013-04-01 10:54:13 PM  
Next time you think the US is nasty on drugs consider...

In the Golden Triangle countries of SE Asia, they have big signs right outside the airports explaining in multiple languages how use = life sentence and distribution = automatic death penalty. And yeah, that includes pot. I don't have a reference, but I was informed that there was even a case where someone was able to prove that the drugs in their system were ingested in another country, and they *still* were convicted on a blood test. To life. In an Asian prision.

Mind you, this is SE Asia, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't want the competition, but still. The US is stupid, but not that nasty.
 
2013-04-01 10:55:02 PM  
Pfft.  These kids just need to learn how to handle their shiat.  I've been higher than that.  Smoking multiple times a day for five years probably helped.
 
2013-04-01 10:55:10 PM  

Weaver95: scalpod: Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?

Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.

you DO know that cannabis is actually less toxic than water, right?


cdn.overclock.net
 
2013-04-01 10:57:35 PM  
still not seeing why this is any sort of major concern....cannabis simply isn't dangerous to the human body.  you literally cannot 'take too much'.  the human body either stores excess THC in fat cells or it eliminates it via normal means.
 
2013-04-01 11:00:13 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-01 11:00:44 PM  

maxheck: Next time you think the US is nasty on drugs consider... In the Golden Triangle countries of SE Asia, they have big signs right outside the airports explaining in multiple languages how use = life sentence and distribution = automatic death penalty. And yeah, that includes pot. I don't have a reference, but I was informed that there was even a case where someone was able to prove that the drugs in their system were ingested in another country, and they *still* were convicted on a blood test. To life. In an Asian prision. Mind you, this is SE Asia, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't want the competition, but still. The US is stupid, but not that nasty.


Yes, but I'm sure that the explanation for repressive Asian drug laws ultimately lies with Whitey and/or the Western world -- and that some Farker will be along shortly to tell us exactly why.
 
2013-04-01 11:00:46 PM  
I tried to commit suicide by overdosing on cannabis, but after the first two hits I felt better.
 
2013-04-01 11:03:00 PM  
Weaver95:

still not seeing why this is any sort of major concern....cannabis simply isn't dangerous to the human body. you literally cannot 'take too much'. the human body either stores excess THC in fat cells or it eliminates it via normal means.

To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.


I wouldn't term the "poisoned" from a clinical standpoint...
 
2013-04-01 11:04:58 PM  
EvilRacistNaziFascist:

maxheck: Next time you think the US is nasty on drugs consider... In the Golden Triangle countries of SE Asia, they have big signs right outside the airports explaining in multiple languages how use = life sentence and distribution = automatic death penalty. And yeah, that includes pot. I don't have a reference, but I was informed that there was even a case where someone was able to prove that the drugs in their system were ingested in another country, and they *still* were convicted on a blood test. To life. In an Asian prision. Mind you, this is SE Asia, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't want the competition, but still. The US is stupid, but not that nasty.

Yes, but I'm sure that the explanation for repressive Asian drug laws ultimately lies with Whitey and/or the Western world -- and that some Farker will be along shortly to tell us exactly why.


Well, ok then. Thanks for sharing!
 
2013-04-01 11:06:35 PM  

maxheck: To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.


Which hallucinogens were those?
 
2013-04-01 11:14:31 PM  

Amos Quito: MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


1. Feed worms weed
2. They turn into gum and die
3. Eat them


How can I eat them if I'm dead?
 
2013-04-01 11:15:46 PM  
Lenny_da_Hog:


maxheck: To be fair, I've seen people dangerously farked up on hallucinagens. No, they weren't dying of toxins, they were just a danger to themselves and others.

Which hallucinogens were those?


You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.

I learned an amazing amount of practical psychology that way.

First rule was "All cars are real."

A useful talent in a trip-sitter is being big enough to yank people out of concert parking-lot traffic by their scruff.
 
2013-04-01 11:16:10 PM  

scalpod: Amos Quito: MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


1. Feed worms weed
2. They turn into gum and die
3. Eat them

How can I eat them if I'm dead?


Oh, I see what happened. "They turn" became "Turn them" in my mind because I'M HIGH ON THC RIGHT NOW AND REPLYING TO MYSELF.
 
2013-04-01 11:21:21 PM  

maxheck: gweilo8888:

maxheck: I still think my molecular biologist friend and I had the best idea. Make algae that produced Delta-9 THC, call it "splalge." It'd be difficult to control if anyone could make a grow-operation in a fishtank, and the plecostomi woud be even more placid (if that were possible.)

I'm with you. Well, apart from the name. And the need to compete with your fish.

But otherwise, newsletter subscription.

We also talked about transgenic regular grass... "Yeah, I'm not sure that I approve of the neighbor kid's haircut, but he does come over every week and offer to cut the grass for free."

Odd thing is, said friend has a few patents to her name in transgenics. For all I know this has already happened.


I see you've never bought scotts Kentucky Green Fescue Seed.

;)
 
2013-04-01 11:22:09 PM  

rbuzby: gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.


I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.


People who think weed is like heroin should be ignored made fun of and generally harassed till they remove their heads from their asses.

the people most against weed would benefit the most from it. Why people think a plant from the ground is terrible yet have no problem popping all kinds of chemicles because the doctor said so just boggles my mind.
 
2013-04-01 11:22:20 PM  

maxheck: You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.


See, yeah... Uh... When comparing LSD to marijuana, you should never start with "To be fair..."
 
2013-04-01 11:26:24 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: rbuzby: gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.


I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.

People who think weed is like heroin should be ignored made fun of and generally harassed till they remove their heads from their asses.

the people most against weed would benefit the most from it. Why people think a plant from the ground is terrible yet have no problem popping all kinds of chemicles because the doctor said so just boggles my mind.


That. Some people are going to do harder stuff regardless. But to equate a low-level psychedelic with heroin is the height of folly.
 
2013-04-01 11:28:40 PM  
I just want to suggest to my fellow FaRKERS....

That you imbibe some weed and listen to the entire "Alladin Sane" album (on that other video website if you have to) then come back to FARK, click on everything, and patronize it's sponsors.
 
2013-04-01 11:28:40 PM  
Lenny_da_Hog:

maxheck: You name it. I had some younger friends during the 90's and I was always the trip-sitter for them. I didn't trip, I had a big car, and could always deal with authority figures like cops and convenience-store clerks so they liked having me around and always invited me along.

See, yeah... Uh... When comparing LSD to marijuana, you should never start with "To be fair..."


I see what you're saying.... Maybe not a fair comparison. But I've seen people do some amazingly stupid things while stoned as well. I stand by my statement.
 
2013-04-01 11:29:10 PM  
bullshiat.

I took 60 mgs and my friend took 90 and we tripped balls and i puked but you dont DIE. you just trip and go to sleep. I puked bc I ate too much. OH NOS!
 
2013-04-01 11:29:13 PM  

This About That: FTFA: "There are serious medical consequences for small children, though, even while marijuana advocates say an adult "overdose" of pot is nearly impossible."

Hey Denver Post: Isn't this where the information about WTF are the "serious consequences" might go? Or is it all BS?


It's further down, from a Children's Hospital ER doc who's seen it:

"Child-ingested pot is also dangerous because ER doctors aren't looking for it as a cause of any symptoms they see, Wang said. That can lead to invasive and expensive diagnostic efforts, such as a spinal tap or CT scan, if parents are embarrassed or scared to mention the true cause."

Weed may be legal for adults, but if your kid eats it you may lose him to Social Services; so you omit that info at the ER and the kid gets unnecessary tests. Same with alcohol, but its effects are better recognized.

Comes down to bad parenting, again.
 
2013-04-01 11:35:34 PM  

rbuzby: fusillade762: rbuzby: "Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

Mormons?

Why am I not being allowed to make sweeping generalizations? Gimme a pass please.

I'm an old Farker with 5 links approved, back before FARK went corporate, before 9/11 and before the oil hit the ...thing.  So ....


2002? Pfft. Newb.

;)
 
2013-04-01 11:37:42 PM  

scalpod: scalpod: Amos Quito: MeanJean: You can put THC in gummi worms?


1. Feed worms weed
2. They turn into gum and die
3. Eat them

How can I eat them if I'm dead?

Oh, I see what happened. "They turn" became "Turn them" in my mind because I'M HIGH ON THC RIGHT NOW AND REPLYING TO MYSELF.



As long as you're in Colorado, and not a child, it's all good.
 
2013-04-01 11:39:34 PM  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU

What having too much pot is like.
 
2013-04-01 11:46:06 PM  
How many marijuaina's did they inject?!?!?!?
imagehaul.com
t2.gstatic.com
i.imgur.com

The entire countries of Colorado and Washington DC will be dead before the end of year because of what they have done.  None will survive, the second hand smoke alone will kill billions.

Farking...BILLIONS.
 
2013-04-01 11:49:20 PM  
Booze is far far worse than weed.  And yes, people freak out when Applebees serves kids by mistake, but the freakout is at Applebees, not at booze itself.  The concern moms don't all start braying to ban all alcohol, they just tsk tsk at the dumb waitress.
 
2013-04-01 11:53:16 PM  

scalpod: Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?

Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.


It's called dilutional hyponatremia or water intoxication.  Just because people call it water poisoning doesn't make it poison.  If I call it water envenomation does it make it venomous?
 
2013-04-01 11:58:15 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-02 12:08:48 AM  
does no one in this tread have the ability to think

sure Editable's are safe for an adult, but Children are going to have a shiat ton lower tolerance.

and it stands to reason a parent MAY freakout when they find there 3 year-old passed out and unresponsive
 
2013-04-02 12:10:23 AM  

thenumber5: sure Editable's are safe for an adult, but Children are going to have a shiat ton lower tolerance.


It's' too bad Fark's posts aren't editable.
 
2013-04-02 12:18:08 AM  
Just because I'm an adult who has 100% respect for the law and would NEVER violate it in my undergraduate days, I am curious about how much pot qualifies as an overdose.

Like a 40 pound brick of it from 200 feet up?
 
2013-04-02 12:18:20 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: thenumber5: sure Editable's are safe for an adult, but Children are going to have a shiat ton lower tolerance.

It's' too bad Fark's posts aren't editable.


Or edible in this case.

/It's relevant to the thread.
 
2013-04-02 12:19:38 AM  

rbuzby: gweilo8888: rbuzby: Every single incident like this with weed should be looked at as if it had happened with booze.  See how that works?  It's the same thing. Booze is significantly more dangerous, both in terms of long-term medical impact and immediate danger from impairment.

I once had to go to the emergency room for drinking cough syrup(booze) when I was a little kid.  Nobody used that as an example of why booze should be outlawed.

Some kids got into the booze?  Punish the adults who gave it to them, and tell the kids they have to wait until they are older.

"Gateway drug"?  If that concept is real, booze is the first gateway. Who wants to outlaw booze? Nobody.

FTFY.


I agree booze is worse.  But I am trying for baby steps. Some people think weed is like heroin.  Let's get them to see weed is more like booze (since booze is legal, and not scrutinized for "should it be legal?" anymore), then go from there.


See, that's the ruthless drug lords' plotting the downfall of America, right here on Fark!
 
2013-04-02 12:22:00 AM  
Reasonable arguments work about as well in pot threads as they do in religion threads.
 
2013-04-02 12:33:10 AM  
Fun Fact: It is physically impossible to ingest a lethal dose of Marijuana. These kids were never in danger, but the people who left their edibles out should be prosecuted for negligence.
 
2013-04-02 12:39:48 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: maxheck: Next time you think the US is nasty on drugs consider... In the Golden Triangle countries of SE Asia, they have big signs right outside the airports explaining in multiple languages how use = life sentence and distribution = automatic death penalty. And yeah, that includes pot. I don't have a reference, but I was informed that there was even a case where someone was able to prove that the drugs in their system were ingested in another country, and they *still* were convicted on a blood test. To life. In an Asian prision. Mind you, this is SE Asia, and I'm pretty sure the government doesn't want the competition, but still. The US is stupid, but not that nasty.

Yes, but I'm sure that the explanation for repressive Asian drug laws ultimately lies with Whitey and/or the Western world -- and that some Farker will be along shortly to tell us exactly why.


Oh, that's real simple: the CIA doesn't like competition.

/how do you think that they fund all those black helicopters?
 
2013-04-02 12:49:37 AM  
"Is this real life?"
 
2013-04-02 12:56:27 AM  

coachellette: Oh, god. Pot brownies: Never Again. But THC is hardly deadly--you can't "overdose" on it in the clinical sense. Its effects during crazy large doses cause suffering, absolutely.


This. The only time I'd eaten pot was in a brownie a few years back. I ate one to no effect after two hours so I ate another. That was a mistake. Not fun at all. I'd rather smoke it.
 
2013-04-02 12:56:42 AM  

Wittenberg Dropout: "Is this real life?"


Is this just fantasy?
 
2013-04-02 01:03:06 AM  

maxheck: What's the LD50 for THC again?


TOXICITY DATA: 666 MG/KG ORAL-RAT LD50; 482 MG/KG ORAL-MOUSE LD50; 525 MG/KG ORAL-DOG LDLO;29 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-RAT LD50;42 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-MOUSE LD50; 128 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-MONKEY LDLO; 373 MG/KG INTRAPERITONEAL-RAT LD50; 168 MG/KG INTRAPERITONEAL-MOUSE LD50;
 
2013-04-02 01:04:51 AM  
errr


TOXICITY DATA:
666 MG/KG ORAL-RAT LD50;
482 MG/KG ORAL-MOUSE LD50;
525 MG/KG ORAL-DOG LDLO;

29 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-RAT LD50;
42 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-MOUSE LD50;
128 MG/KG INTRAVENOUS-MONKEY LDLO;

373 MG/KG INTRAPERITONEAL-RAT LD50;
168 MG/KG INTRAPERITONEAL-MOUSE LD50;
 
2013-04-02 01:05:24 AM  
Edibles will save human kind. Save. Human. Kind! The secret is finding the right strain and the proper dose (not too much.) Pharmaceutical grade gummies make it so easy to take the perfect amount.
 
2013-04-02 01:05:57 AM  

katerbug72: coachellette: Oh, god. Pot brownies: Never Again. But THC is hardly deadly--you can't "overdose" on it in the clinical sense. Its effects during crazy large doses cause suffering, absolutely.

This. The only time I'd eaten pot was in a brownie a few years back. I ate one to no effect after two hours so I ate another. That was a mistake. Not fun at all. I'd rather smoke it.


we have orange creme suckers. 60 mg and 120 mgs. I actually would rather eat than smoke. 3 beers and 30 mgs and I can party ALL night. I think thats what those kids were missing. the 3 beers.

but that does remind me of a story. took a gummy sheet and did the same thing. heeeyyyy nothing going on after a half hour. it says a half hour. ill take another. OMFG!
 
2013-04-02 01:06:10 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-02 01:06:25 AM  
Bottom line: it is impossible to overdose on marijuana no matter what the "delivery method". Responsible users should, of course, lock up their stash just like grandma/grandpa should lock up their oxycontin and Scotch (which can be deadly in sufficiant amounts). When, WHEN will America see the harmless nature of this substance versus its benefits? farking retardpublicans.
 
2013-04-02 01:09:13 AM  

transplendent: Edibles will save human kind. Save. Human. Kind! The secret is finding the right strain and the proper dose (not too much.) Pharmaceutical grade gummies make it so easy to take the perfect amount.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-04-02 01:11:21 AM  

universebetween: but that does remind me of a story. took a gummy sheet and did the same thing. heeeyyyy nothing going on after a half hour. it says a half hour. ill take another. OMFG!


Haha, similar experience. I followed package instructions the first time and bam! Good thing I was working from home that day.
 
2013-04-02 01:16:05 AM  

Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?


Better yet, why can't anyone be poisoned by Oxycontin, or any other pill people frequently die from consuming?
 
2013-04-02 01:18:28 AM  

MrEricSir: FTA: In the following two years, when medical marijuana became legal in Colorado and federal officials backed off prosecution, it had 14.

Colorado has about 5 million children. Apparently having priorities isn't a priority in Colorado.


No, it's closer to 5 million people in the whole state.

Prescription medicine is required to be put in child-proof containers, why should pot be any different?

BlaqueKatt: because difficulty breathing isn't life threatening.


Have you ever had difficulty breathing especially if you didn't know why? I mean difficult enough that you went to the ER because it was getting worse?

There's so much derp in this thread and I'm not even 20% through it.

/voted for Amendment 64
 
2013-04-02 01:25:38 AM  
I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....
 
2013-04-02 01:30:20 AM  

Happy Hours: MrEricSir: FTA: In the following two years, when medical marijuana became legal in Colorado and federal officials backed off prosecution, it had 14.

Colorado has about 5 million children. Apparently having priorities isn't a priority in Colorado.

No, it's closer to 5 million people in the whole state.

Prescription medicine is required to be put in child-proof containers, why should pot be any different?


Sometimes you've got to live a little. Take some chances.
 
2013-04-02 01:36:46 AM  
Imagine if your beer, wine, scotch, rum, etc had to be sold with child-proof caps. Imagine if cigarettes were not sold in packs like that are now, but, rather, in tall round 'pill containers' with child proof-caps on them.

Methinks that the people biatching the loudest about the 'poisonous pot' would biatch even louder if the aforementioned ever came to pass.
 
2013-04-02 01:38:23 AM  

thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....


I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?
 
2013-04-02 01:39:36 AM  
Even if it's impossible or nearly so to OD on marijuana I can see where some naïve kid who unwittingly ingested some, didn't know what was happening, and didn't know he'd sober up eventually, could freak right the hell out, and the parents take the kid to the E.R. on a "better safe than sorry" decision.
 
2013-04-02 01:43:10 AM  
I don't really have much of a problem with this. It's hardly unheard of to have things not intended for children marked accordingly. Cigarettes, prescription and OTC medicines, etc. Booze doesn't, but then again it doesn't come in brownie form. That being said, I doubt if it will make much of a difference. People responsible enough to make sure their kids don't get into their pot don't need such labeling. I doubt a label would stop a kid from eating a gummy worm if the kid wanted to eat it.

/14 kids in two years is hardly an epidemic
//any word on how those kids are doing now?
 
2013-04-02 01:47:00 AM  

AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?


Set it on fire in your trunk?
 
2013-04-02 01:51:37 AM  

AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?


I assume concentrations, ie edibles in liquid form. Hell, ill inject it if someone will distill the thc. Remember I'm the guinea pig, you're the scientist. You figure it out. Besides, your argument feeds into my point. Any time, any place.
 
2013-04-02 01:57:40 AM  

thorthor: AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?

I assume concentrations, ie edibles in liquid form. Hell, ill inject it if someone will distill the thc. Remember I'm the guinea pig, you're the scientist. You figure it out. Besides, your argument feeds into my point. Any time, any place.


I wanna party with you
 
2013-04-02 02:01:58 AM  

universebetween: thorthor: AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?

I assume concentrations, ie edibles in liquid form. Hell, ill inject it if someone will distill the thc. Remember I'm the guinea pig, you're the scientist. You figure it out. Besides, your argument feeds into my point. Any time, any place.

I wanna party with you


Me too!!
 
2013-04-02 02:07:21 AM  
Besides, wouldn't it make a good fark party side-show?
 
2013-04-02 02:12:42 AM  

geek_mars: I don't really have much of a problem with this. It's hardly unheard of to have things not intended for children marked accordingly. Cigarettes, prescription and OTC medicines, etc. Booze doesn't, but then again it doesn't come in brownie form. That being said, I doubt if it will make much of a difference. People responsible enough to make sure their kids don't get into their pot don't need such labeling. I doubt a label would stop a kid from eating a gummy worm if the kid wanted to eat it.

/14 kids in two years is hardly an epidemic
//any word on how those kids are doing now?


They're probably dead, but not from pot. Rather their irresponsible parents probably did something else stupid like letting their 3-year old run out in traffic (that actually happened last week with fatal results).

Doesn't anyone besides me remember last year when some people were upset about the danger laundry detergent posed to kids?

Link

Derpier sources than NPR cited parents calling for the "detergent pods" to be banned or at least have "Mr. Yuck" symbols on them.

And if you have an even longer term memory than that, there have been parents up in arms over so-called "alco-pops". I made the mistake of ordering a Mike's Hard Lemonade once. ONCE. I almost gagged on the extreme sugar content. Never again. That shiat has to be designed to appeal to 8 year olds.
 
2013-04-02 02:23:05 AM  

Sgygus: You do a modest amount of edible, wait an hour, then you toke up.  The underlying edible high will not only give you quite a boost, it will also smooth out the come-down.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-02 02:43:21 AM  
I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU OK?!?!
 
2013-04-02 02:44:59 AM  
:D
 
2013-04-02 02:47:14 AM  
it will also smooth out the come-down.

Huh? Marijuana come down? WTF is that? Never experienced it.
Were not talking LSD here.
 
2013-04-02 04:28:03 AM  

thorthor: Huh?


You go up, you come down.  Most people who partake aren't high all the time (and can tell the difference).  Maybe you don't notice, thorthor, because you come down while you are asleep... which is a good way of doing it.
 
2013-04-02 04:50:51 AM  

Sgygus: thorthor: Huh?

You go up, you come down.  Most people who partake aren't high all the time (and can tell the difference).  Maybe you don't notice, thorthor, because you come down while you are asleep... which is a good way of doing it.


No I just don't consider "coming down" a condition related to pot. Anyone familiar with drugs (and alcohol is a strong drug) should understand that the "come-down" from weed is practically non- exsistant. Don't label me without knowing me. I'd like to see the difference between you with an alcohol hangover and me with a marijuana buzz. I'd farking kill you in an iq test or chess game. Just sayin. I don't need sleep to be sharp as a tack.
 
2013-04-02 05:35:03 AM  

Surool: Fun Fact: It is physically impossible to ingest a lethal dose of Marijuana. These kids were never in danger, but the people who left their edibles out should be prosecuted for negligence.


Why should they be prosecuted if there's no chance of harm?
 
2013-04-02 07:48:04 AM  

untaken_name: Cannabinoids are cannabinoids, man. Spin it how you want, if it weren't for those receptors you'd never learn how to eat.


Alcohols are alcohols, man. Now go drink some racing fuel 'cause it's totally the same as a bottle of vodak
=Smidge=
 
2013-04-02 07:56:15 AM  
There is no such thing as "pot poisoning".  The levels required for human toxicity cannot be obtained from a whole tray of brownies.
 
2013-04-02 08:20:13 AM  

katerbug72: coachellette: Oh, god. Pot brownies: Never Again. But THC is hardly deadly--you can't "overdose" on it in the clinical sense. Its effects during crazy large doses cause suffering, absolutely.

This. The only time I'd eaten pot was in a brownie a few years back. I ate one to no effect after two hours so I ate another. That was a mistake. Not fun at all. I'd rather smoke it.


I wish I knew why, but my body does not like marijuana. Horrible feeling. I'm way past my experimental years, but the best high I ever got from a depressant was from mdma, easily.
 
2013-04-02 08:34:14 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Pot is no more harmful to kids than grain alcohol.


You'll get bites.  Probably got some already....ain't got time to read the whole thread.
 
2013-04-02 08:41:08 AM  
Pot poison? LOL what a maroon
 
2013-04-02 08:46:51 AM  

CJHardin: scalpod: Weaver95: um...how can you be 'poisoned' by something that isn't poisonous....?

Try drinking 8 gallons of water in the next hour and get back to me.

It's called dilutional hyponatremia or water intoxication.  Just because people call it water poisoning doesn't make it poison.  If I call it water envenomation does it make it venomous?


Not to mention, he's stupid on his face because he didn't restrict anything.  Flushing electrolytes isn't the same as poisoning.  The water doesn't "build up" until it interferes, it just dilutes something you need.  Something that can be fully restored just by dumping some electrolyte mix in that 8 gallons of water.

Or does salt, in their world, count as an "antidote" to "water poisoning"?
 
2013-04-02 08:51:25 AM  

coachellette: I wish I knew why, but my body does not like marijuana. Horrible feeling. I'm way past my experimental years, but the best high I ever got from a depressant was from mdma, easily.


Most people who have bad experiences with marijuana are reacting to the dehydration effects causing their bellies to clench up.  I'm somewhat of a dehydration derp nutjob, to some people on fark, but there's really no directly denying we consistently confuse things that cause dehydration with the generic effects of dehydration itself.   Dehydration causes gas, gas causes intestinal pressure and intestinal pressure is interpreted as everything from the munchies, to paranoia, depending on what muscles react to the discomfort, and what choices you make as a result.
 
2013-04-02 08:54:36 AM  
Why all the sandy 'ginas? The just want to use childproof packaging. Nobody us trying to take away your precious social crutch.

All this unwarrented anger makes me question all the"pot isn't addictive" talk.
 
2013-04-02 09:31:55 AM  
robertdavidsullivan.typepad.com

Hey Barney, let's go down to the beach and shoot some clams!
 
2013-04-02 09:37:33 AM  

Mr Guy: coachellette: I wish I knew why, but my body does not like marijuana. Horrible feeling. I'm way past my experimental years, but the best high I ever got from a depressant was from mdma, easily.

Most people who have bad experiences with marijuana are reacting to the dehydration effects causing their bellies to clench up.  I'm somewhat of a dehydration derp nutjob, to some people on fark, but there's really no directly denying we consistently confuse things that cause dehydration with the generic effects of dehydration itself.   Dehydration causes gas, gas causes intestinal pressure and intestinal pressure is interpreted as everything from the munchies, to paranoia, depending on what muscles react to the discomfort, and what choices you make as a result.


I appreciate your response. While I indeed do live in a state of perpetual dehydration, my discomfort was never abdominal. It was always confined to the head (nausea, headache-which I realize dehydration can cause). The general slow, foggy, sleepy feeling doesn't appeal to me either, as I kind of feel that way naturally at some point during each day. Whenever I've tried to explain that to my medical card-carrying friends, they each state that they enjoy that state of mind; I do wonder if there's something they're feeling that I'm just not. CSS, I know.

Then again, out of the group of them that I can think of, only one or two are the type to enjoy stimulants. Not to pretend it's a binary thing, but I wonder if it just depends on your default mental energy state.
 
2013-04-02 09:46:21 AM  

coachellette: The general slow, foggy, sleepy feeling doesn't appeal to me either, as I kind of feel that way naturally at some point during each day.


I actually got obsessed with studying the physical effects of various drugs because A) I suddenly gained some friends who would let me bug them with questions and B) I experienced all the same side effects as they were describing, but without drugs.  I'm absolutely convinced there's really not much you can do with drugs that you can't do naturally by getting your body into the correct state, even if some of those states require a lot of work.  What drugs do is let you jump into those states without creating the proper conditions first.

If you're ever getting that high sensation naturally, what you're likely experiencing is your brain overheating from dehydration and blood pressure, most likely prompted by a drop in blood sugar.  Your body responds by trying to slow down and taking a nap, and ignoring things like patience and good will towards others.  You may find you can take control of that sensation and shoot yourself from groggy to energetic by recognizing the sensation (for me, it starts in my cheekbones) coming, and power hydrating with a salty protein snack, meanwhile, imagine you're smelling something really, really good to help you focus on the cooling sensation of breathing slowly and deeply through your nose.
 
2013-04-02 09:59:29 AM  

Mr Guy: coachellette: The general slow, foggy, sleepy feeling doesn't appeal to me either, as I kind of feel that way naturally at some point during each day.

I actually got obsessed with studying the physical effects of various drugs because A) I suddenly gained some friends who would let me bug them with questions and B) I experienced all the same side effects as they were describing, but without drugs.  I'm absolutely convinced there's really not much you can do with drugs that you can't do naturally by getting your body into the correct state, even if some of those states require a lot of work.  What drugs do is let you jump into those states without creating the proper conditions first.

If you're ever getting that high sensation naturally, what you're likely experiencing is your brain overheating from dehydration and blood pressure, most likely prompted by a drop in blood sugar.  Your body responds by trying to slow down and taking a nap, and ignoring things like patience and good will towards others.  You may find you can take control of that sensation and shoot yourself from groggy to energetic by recognizing the sensation (for me, it starts in my cheekbones) coming, and power hydrating with a salty protein snack, meanwhile, imagine you're smelling something really, really good to help you focus on the cooling sensation of breathing slowly and deeply through your nose.


You're a trip (not an insult).

What I don't understand is why anyone would *wathoughtfeel that way! It's awful.

I've been able to mildly recreate the effects of mdma, myself, just from memory/thought. My entire body responds, complete with pupil dilation. That's a euphoric ride I like to revisit regularly, hehe.
 
2013-04-02 10:00:37 AM  
WANT to feel, not *wathoughtfeel (wtf?)
 
2013-04-02 10:34:11 AM  
Unfortunately this is going to happen and we can't legislate around stupid.

The problem with eaten cannabis is that it sneaks up on you so you can mistakenly get REALLY uncomfortably high by mistake.  Adults can handle it, but children are NOT happy about this kind of thing.  Just ask any two year old who missed a couple of nap times.

In the end, it's parenting.  You can't let your kids get into your stuff.  I read comics and my kid has his kids comics and it's the same damned thing.  These are mine and no, you can't read them - too scary.  Those are yours, read them and tell me about them.  You don't have to be a helicopter parent to put down boundaries and make them stick.
 
2013-04-02 10:50:40 AM  

coachellette: What I don't understand is why anyone would *wathoughtfeel that way! It's awful.


Because, oddly, it allows you to focus better on stimuli.  You can use various drugs to train your body to respond in a certain more optimal way, without worrying so much about consequences.  The problem always being drugs allow you to ignore some of the feedback mechanisms that prevent you from abusing your body in those ways.  Steriods let you out metabolize what's normal, and get into a state where you hormones and eating can't support it.  Meth lets you out oxidize fat compared to normal, and lets you empty all the critical energy stores and nutrient stores in your body.  Marijuana lets you disassociate pain and focus on physical stimulation, which can let you dehydrate yourself (munchies!) or starve yourself (memory loss, lethargy).  Heroin lets you burn through your "happy" hormones.

There's a wide range of when drugs can be used safely and with helpful benefits.  The downside is if you don't know exactly what you're doing, you're basically using a substance that lets your body ignore it's naturally imposed limits.  You CAN do that safely when you know the consequences of doing so, but mistakes are costly, and can be permanent.  It's a fascinating thing for me because I realized that a lot of people take drugs to get their body to do things that I can do naturally with focus (or naturally, when I stop focusing).  For example, I was almost thirty before I realized that most people have to take drugs to see the distortion patterns of their optical nerves on solid surfaces.  "Bugs on your skin"?  "The walls crawling"?  That's optical cross talk in your visual nerves from overheating.  I've always seen it, and wasn't really fully aware that other people don't.  However, when I was around someone taking a bad trip, I could explain to them exactly what they were experiencing, and bring them down, because hallucinations are at least basically a physical effect being interpreted incorrectly.

I, personally, got my body into a pretty rough shape by losing too much weight too quickly, over the course of a year, and it's taken me nearly four years to recover from it and get my immune system back to normal from what I put myself through.  The flip side being I have taught myself to force regulate my body temperature pretty much regardless of outside temperatures (granted, I was only willing to test as far as 20 degree weather in freezing rain as my personal limit), I can handle oxygen drops without degrading exercise performances by forcing my blood pressure to spike when I get light headed from over exercise, and a bunch of other stupid human tricks.
 
2013-04-02 11:12:53 AM  
The current Pot isn't your grandparents Pot from the 60's. It's much stronger.

While it may not be poisonous, it can make a person feel pretty darn ill if they're not used to it, especially young kids. It's a drug and, like all drugs, should be handled as such.

Kids used to get into chewing tobacco years back when baseball players tended to chew the stuff -- and stores sold bricks of it sweetened with molasses. That was also before the tobacco companies started screwing around with the nicotine levels. It usually made the kids sick -- especially those who didn't know to spit out the juice.

I don't know of anyone ever dying from the stuff, but I do know many a kid who tossed his cookies and wished he was dead for awhile.

I've also had little chocolate candies, filled with a concentrated, sweet booze when I was young, that were fruity and delicious -- and after 4 or 5, got buzzed pretty good.

Just saying, some precautions need to be taken.
 
2013-04-02 11:42:46 AM  

Atomic Spunk:  But I really didn't enjoy the high, and I was wondering if this was fairly common among those who like to smoke.


I've made a couple batches of brownies and a couple batches of tincture.  My preference: smoking>tincture>baked goods.  the baked goods always end up tasting like shiat (I also distinctly remember I used too much almond extract in the frosting, which probably had something to do with it), and the high is too body based, not what I'm looking for.

The tincture straddles the line nicely, giving a long-lasting relaxation that doesn't tip over into "high" for me. Tastes exactly like what a head shop smells like, but 2-3 DROPS and you're set for 6-8 HOURS, and a quarter could keep you high round the clock for probably 3 weeks or so.  Potency drops off as it sits on the shelf, so it takes some planning, but it's a great way to stretch your supply in a pinch.   I use it for double features at the drive in so I'm not the weirdo behind the bathrooms toking up, and it opens this weekend.  I normally use good bud for it, but I've been saving up seeds/stems/shake for a year, I'm going to try boiling them down and see what I end up with.  

I haven't used a vaporizer before.  Can someone recommend a good entry level model and a good "regular use" model?  I'm looking to try something new and would like some advice.
 
2013-04-02 11:50:08 AM  

plewis: Unfortunately this is going to happen and we can't legislate around stupid.

The problem with eaten cannabis is that it sneaks up on you so you can mistakenly get REALLY uncomfortably high by mistake.  Adults can handle it, but children are NOT happy about this kind of thing.  Just ask any two year old who missed a couple of nap times.

In the end, it's parenting.  You can't let your kids get into your stuff.  I read comics and my kid has his kids comics and it's the same damned thing.  These are mine and no, you can't read them - too scary.  Those are yours, read them and tell me about them.  You don't have to be a helicopter parent to put down boundaries and make them stick.


"But Dady, this one's about a pastor!  See, it says Preacher, right there!  And this one's all about fairy tales..."
 
2013-04-02 12:34:05 PM  
Step 1: Leave medicine in a place where children can easily consume it
Step 2: Have child eat medicine
Step 3: Take parental responsibility for not securing something potentially harmful to a child
Step 3: Complain that the packaging was insufficient, cause media uproar, disavow all responsibility in this situation
Step 4: Profit
 
2013-04-02 12:42:09 PM  

UnspokenVoice: Surool: Fun Fact: It is physically impossible to ingest a lethal dose of Marijuana. These kids were never in danger, but the people who left their edibles out should be prosecuted for negligence.

Why should they be prosecuted if there's no chance of harm?


Same thing if your kid drank your booze and went to school drunk. Do you think no one gets punished in those situations?
 
2013-04-02 12:49:52 PM  
TelemonianAjax:
I haven't used a vaporizer before.  Can someone recommend a good entry level model and a good "regular use" model?  I'm looking to try something new and would like some advice.

The best way to vaporize that I've found is to make one at home.  Just take a stainless steel holder of some sort, a round coffee scoop works well.  Make a chimney out of aluminum foil, slightly smaller than the holder.  Cut the top off a two liter bottle and put a tube on the bottom of the bottle (a pen casing works well).  Use a lighter to heat the bottom of the holder, with the weed inside, and catch the smoke in the inverted two liter.  Costs nothing and works pretty well.
 
2013-04-02 01:57:38 PM  

jaytkay: "Medical" marijuana users aren't responsible parents.

Surprise, surprise.


bad troll is bad

back in your cave
 
2013-04-02 02:12:31 PM  
Could we please stop pretending there is anything medicinal about the weed in Colorado?

I've seen the full page ads promising weed-cards, same day, no questions asked, signed by a real doctor, cash only, no medical history required.

I've seen the people going in and out of the weed shops.
I've seen inside the weed shops.

For contrast, I've also gone to real doctors and gone to real pharmacies to get drugs.

I'm pro weed, but can we just drop the pretense?
 
2013-04-02 02:29:04 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Could we please stop pretending there is anything medicinal about the weed in Colorado?

I've seen the full page ads promising weed-cards, same day, no questions asked, signed by a real doctor, cash only, no medical history required.

I've seen the people going in and out of the weed shops.
I've seen inside the weed shops.

For contrast, I've also gone to real doctors and gone to real pharmacies to get drugs.

I'm pro weed, but can we just drop the pretense?


It makes it easier for Grandpa and Grandma to "adjust".

Weed ain't a cure-all like some hippie types like to think, but it's a better pain med that highly-addictive Oxy and other benzos.

I wish there was more medical investigation into it but because it's "illegal" there's a lot of red tape.
 
2013-04-02 02:42:36 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Could we please stop pretending there is anything medicinal about the weed in Colorado?


Didn't they kind of do that this past election when they voted in fully legal recreational weed? Now, presumably it doesn't matter if you need it for medicinal use or recreational use...
 
2013-04-02 03:22:18 PM  

Barbecue Bob: The water comparison is lame and not applicable at all. Water does kill. Pot does not. Nobody in all recorded human history has ever directly overdosed on pot. Unlike water.

Beyond that, I'm a hardcore smoker of pot for about 45 years. I've lived in CO for 25 of those. Eating pot infused food can fark you right the fark up. If you didn't know you ate a drug, you'll be on your way to the ER wondering what the shiat is going on with your head.

The infused edibles made today are EXTREMELY potent. Not life threatening, but if eaten unaware of what you just ate, you may think you're about to perish.


I have a sad. Edibles don't do a damn thing to me. Bought em made in various strengths, tinctures, candies, butter, chocolates, whatever oral intake (hell, fresh off the cawk if it would work.) Pisses me right off. Smoking barely affects me anymore.

Hardcore... You keep using that word... ^_^
 
2013-04-02 03:24:19 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: TelemonianAjax:
I haven't used a vaporizer before.  Can someone recommend a good entry level model and a good "regular use" model?  I'm looking to try something new and would like some advice.

The best way to vaporize that I've found is to make one at home.  Just take a stainless steel holder of some sort, a round coffee scoop works well.  Make a chimney out of aluminum foil, slightly smaller than the holder.  Cut the top off a two liter bottle and put a tube on the bottom of the bottle (a pen casing works well).  Use a lighter to heat the bottom of the holder, with the weed inside, and catch the smoke in the inverted two liter.  Costs nothing and works pretty well.


Dude, use a tealight so you don't have to deal with the lighter.
 
2013-04-02 03:29:28 PM  

AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?


I would think you would be too busy shiatting yourself to death after 10 pounds to manage the other 40.

/Death by roughage
 
2013-04-02 03:38:40 PM  
Fark_Guy_Rob:
I've seen the full page ads promising weed-cards, same day, no questions asked, signed by a real doctor, cash only, no medical history required.
 I've seen the people going in and out of the weed shops.
I've seen inside the weed shops.


But have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion or watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?

All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Tiem to high.

/otoh, would have liked some mmj rather than the oxy i got after my neck surgery
//florida will probably be one of the last to get mmj
///too much 'south' in north florida and too many of 'those people' in south florida that the north floridians don't like
 
2013-04-02 06:33:58 PM  

shortymac: It makes it easier for Grandpa and Grandma to "adjust".

Weed ain't a cure-all like some hippie types like to think, but it's a better pain med that highly-addictive Oxy and other benzos.

I wish there was more medical investigation into it but because it's "illegal" there's a lot of red tape.


Cannabis also doesn't have nearly the number of contraindications as, say, alcohol, or most prescription drugs.

I use edibles almost exclusively: they don't hurt my asthmatic lungs, they are convenient and discreet, and they don't smell strongly.

These are delicious and designed with MJ in mind. I make them into little balls and roll them in powdered sugar. A little melted chocolate never hurts, either. :)
http://goodandbaked.com/recipes/desserts/majoon-recipe/
 
2013-04-02 09:41:41 PM  

ReverendJynxed: AeAe: thorthor: I am willing to ingest the Ld 50, no lets make it double Ld50. Any time, any place. you farkers pay, any method of ingestion you choose. Lets prove it once and for all. If I end up w/anything worse than a headache, ill farking join the GOP and start campaigning for absolute prohibition. Ill be the next Neil Armstrong. One small step.....

I vaguely remember reading that the LD50 was something like 30% of your body weight of cannabis consumed in a short period of time (say, an hour).

Let's say you're 150 lbs.  How do you propose "consuming" 50 lbs of herb in a hour?

I would think you would be too busy shiatting yourself to death after 10 pounds to manage the other 40.

/Death by roughage


lolz.. well, you could try to smoke it I suppose.  Or vape it.  I didn't say it could be done.
 
2013-04-02 09:46:07 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Could we please stop pretending there is anything medicinal about the weed in Colorado?

I've seen the full page ads promising weed-cards, same day, no questions asked, signed by a real doctor, cash only, no medical history required.

I've seen the people going in and out of the weed shops.
I've seen inside the weed shops.

For contrast, I've also gone to real doctors and gone to real pharmacies to get drugs.

I'm pro weed, but can we just drop the pretense?


Hmm.. not sure if you're serious, but CO and WA passed full-on recreational use of cannabis by ballot this past November.  So there's no "pretense" that it's all for medical use.   Now if you're saying that there are people there that are pretending that they are using it for medical purposes.. maybe they're embarrassed?  I suppose there's still a stigma to pot use.
 
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