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2013-04-01 08:51:43 PM
Huh. And all this time I thought the Thai would be comfortable with slopes.
 
2013-04-01 09:10:28 PM
Daft swamps.
 
2013-04-01 10:15:03 PM
Slanty things in asia?  Who could have seen that coming.
 
2013-04-01 10:19:45 PM
10, 40, what's the difference?
 
2013-04-01 10:21:27 PM
The thing that impresses me the most about these is that the buildings stay intact.  They can't figure out how to pour a foundation to save their lives, but the building itself manages to stay intact all the way down.
 
2013-04-01 10:22:02 PM

whatshisname: 10, 40, what's the difference?


30?  300%?  Subby's posting privs?
 
2013-04-01 10:22:35 PM
Chinese did it better
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-01 10:22:49 PM
Alright...I'm a woman so I obviously don't maths, but this is not 40 degrees.

That is much too cold for this building.
 
2013-04-01 10:23:16 PM
Was expecting to see gravity defying 40 degree leaning...

Nice job, subby.
 
2013-04-01 10:23:48 PM
"Nares Srimuang, director of the civil division of Ku Kot municipality"

He's the head of the Ku Kot clan.
 
2013-04-01 10:25:21 PM
Well thats what happens when your engineers Thai one on
 
2013-04-01 10:27:14 PM
FTA: "He said relevant agencies will look into ways to deal with the building to protect people's lives and assets."


www.veteranstoday.com

Unavailable for consultation
 
2013-04-01 10:28:54 PM
I'll be impressed when it stays that way for 900 years.  Wake me when it does.
 
2013-04-01 10:31:53 PM
cool
 
2013-04-01 10:36:44 PM
Two things. That doesn't look like a 40 degree lean and why is this not a FAIL tag?
 
2013-04-01 10:38:36 PM
Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.
 
2013-04-01 10:38:36 PM

Ronin_S: Two things. That doesn't look like a 40 degree lean and why is this not a FAIL tag?


FTFA: It was reported that the construction site used to be a pond and that may be the reason for the subsidence.

I imagine that's why.
 
2013-04-01 10:40:52 PM

Ronin_S: Two things. That doesn't look like a 40 degree lean and why is this not a FAIL tag?


Fail tag goes to subby.

/ Didn't see mention of 40 degrees in article. Only 10 degrees.
// 40 degrees Farenheit?
 
2013-04-01 10:42:25 PM
Limp building.  Thai hookers.  Missed headline.
 
2013-04-01 10:43:39 PM
You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea
 
2013-04-01 10:43:57 PM
♫ One might in Bangkok,
Makes an engineer bumble... ♪
 
2013-04-01 10:43:58 PM

Archimedes' Principal: Ronin_S: Two things. That doesn't look like a 40 degree lean and why is this not a FAIL tag?

Fail tag goes to subby.

/ Didn't see mention of 40 degrees in article. Only 10 degrees.
// 40 degrees Farenheit?


Close.  50F is 10C.  That would have been a good troll.
 
2013-04-01 10:44:23 PM
Also, that looks like somewhere between 5 and 10 degrees off vertical
 
2013-04-01 10:44:41 PM
Mai pen rai.
 
2013-04-01 10:46:20 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ronin_S: Two things. That doesn't look like a 40 degree lean and why is this not a FAIL tag?

FTFA: It was reported that the construction site used to be a pond and that may be the reason for the subsidence.

I imagine that's why.


So the fourth building will stay oop?

/it'll be the strongest building in those isles
 
2013-04-01 10:46:30 PM
Great, a protracted thread about angles.
 
2013-04-01 10:46:41 PM

loonatic112358: You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea


Wind.  Earthquakes.  You'd be safer using optical illusions to make it look like the building was leaning.  Maybe build out non-weight bearing features on either side of the building.  Still, wind's a biatch.  I've seen people get seasick in a 29 story building in high winds.
 
2013-04-01 10:47:08 PM
"Pathum Thani governor Siripong Hantrakul said an inspection showed that the building had subsided even further."


40 degrees is probably accurate.   We are just getting confused on the metric conversion.
Happens all the time....
 
2013-04-01 10:47:18 PM

LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.


Fark is all about going off on tangents.
 
2013-04-01 10:47:55 PM

LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.


I'm sure there will be many obtuse jokes.
 
2013-04-01 10:52:11 PM

TheSwizz: I'll be impressed when it stays that way for 900 years.  Wake me when it does.


We've actively been propping the Tower of Pisa up for the last 700 years.  In fact, they knew it was learning when they built it and stopped construction several times.  It doesn't have one lean, it has several.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa#Construction
 
2013-04-01 10:52:14 PM
www.timdrussell.com

Shame they don't believe a little more.
 
2013-04-01 10:56:20 PM

Mister Peejay: LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.

I'm sure there will be many obtuse jokes.


I just hope some farker doesn't give into temptation and make a cute comment that goes flat.
 
2013-04-01 10:58:21 PM
Building codes are for wussies.
 
2013-04-01 10:59:12 PM

BKITU: Huh. And all this time I thought the Thai would be comfortable with slopes.


http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/343379/slanted-building- risk-to-collapse

...makes sense to me...
 
2013-04-01 10:59:50 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.


bingo
 
2013-04-01 11:03:51 PM

megarian: Alright...I'm a woman so I obviously don't maths, but this is not 40 degrees.

That is much too cold for this building.


wallywam1: "Nares Srimuang, director of the civil division of Ku Kot municipality"

He's the head of the Ku Kot clan.


humor
 
2013-04-01 11:09:36 PM

Mister Peejay: LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.

I'm sure there will be many obtuse jokes.



This isn't right.
 
2013-04-01 11:11:42 PM

northgrave: Mister Peejay: LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.

I'm sure there will be many obtuse jokes.


This isn't right.


Before we go off on a tangent, I wish someone would put up a sine.
 
2013-04-01 11:17:04 PM
I bet the ladyboys did this.
 
2013-04-01 11:18:23 PM

morg: megarian: Alright...I'm a woman so I obviously don't maths, but this is not 40 degrees.

That is much too cold for this building.

wallywam1: "Nares Srimuang, director of the civil division of Ku Kot municipality"

He's the head of the Ku Kot clan.

humor


OL!
 
2013-04-01 11:18:48 PM

loonatic112358: You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea


Well... depending on your perspective...

farm3.staticflickr.com

/Yeah... I know.
//Very hot.
 
2013-04-01 11:19:07 PM

Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]


I'm actually surprised by the fact that the main structure is intact. Other than the obviously shiatty foundation the building itself is obviously rock soild. You would think a building that falls would not be intact like that afterward.
 
2013-04-01 11:19:43 PM

zamboni: northgrave: Mister Peejay: LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.

I'm sure there will be many obtuse jokes.


This isn't right.

Before we go off on a tangent, I wish someone would put up a sine.


I think you've struck a chord.
 
2013-04-01 11:21:59 PM

LordOfThePings: Great, a protracted thread about angles.


*golf clap*
 
2013-04-01 11:22:04 PM

Voiceofreason01: Satanic_Hamster: Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.

bingo


Question is; did the builder neglect to do any sort of geo survey or engineering work?   Not unknown for a half assed builder just to use a design that he already had on the shelves that was meant for a site with much better ground and neglected to see if it would even work at that location.
 
2013-04-01 11:22:46 PM
The dude subsides
 
2013-04-01 11:27:21 PM

whatshisname: 10, 40, what's the difference?


Maybe it's in Fahrenhe---aw, shiat, other people have made that joke already.
 
2013-04-01 11:29:04 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Voiceofreason01: Satanic_Hamster: Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.

bingo

Question is; did the builder neglect to do any sort of geo survey or engineering work?   Not unknown for a half assed builder just to use a design that he already had on the shelves that was meant for a site with much better ground and neglected to see if it would even work at that location.


They couldn't find the money for it so they skimped.  Guess nobody stepped up to cosine a loan.

/I TRIED
//derivative humor
 
2013-04-01 11:32:46 PM
I'm wondering if it will collapse into its own footprint.
 
2013-04-01 11:33:01 PM
The building must be demolished, he said, so the damage would be around 70 million baht.

That's around $1.8 million for a seven-story apartment building, which tells me why it's falling over.
 
2013-04-01 11:36:06 PM

loonatic112358: You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea


Domino's Pizza had such a building designed as its headquarters.   It was instantly dubbed the "leaning tower of pizza" and never built.
 
2013-04-01 11:38:18 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]

I'm actually surprised by the fact that the main structure is intact. Other than the obviously shiatty foundation the building itself is obviously rock soild. You would think a building that falls would not be intact like that afterward.


They were digging out a pit next to the building and undermined the foundation. More info here if you're interested.
 
2013-04-01 11:38:43 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: FTFA: It was reported that the construction site used to be a pond and that may be the reason for the subsidence.

I imagine that's why.


Not really a good excuse, since the Roman Colosseum was also built on the site of a lake.
And it ain't leaning much.
I'm going to go with corner cutting.
(I know...they did that with the Colosseum too, which is why it is oval)
 
2013-04-01 11:42:31 PM
Sheesh, even the medieval Italians knew enough about engineering to build Venice on thousands of wood pilings, which are still in good shape today (wood does not rot under water).
 
2013-04-01 11:46:56 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: They couldn't find the money for it so they skimped. Guess nobody stepped up to cosine a loan.

/I TRIED
//derivative humor


i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-01 11:47:45 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Voiceofreason01: Satanic_Hamster: Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.

bingo

Question is; did the builder neglect to do any sort of geo survey or engineering work?   Not unknown for a half assed builder just to use a design that he already had on the shelves that was meant for a site with much better ground and neglected to see if it would even work at that location.


Dude, that building itself is shelves. They probably just brought the whole thing in one night, graded the site level and propped the building up with a few toothpicks and called it a day.
 
2013-04-01 11:48:24 PM
Hmmmmmm....

bloggingblue.com
 
2013-04-01 11:48:55 PM
Voiceofreason01: bingo

bingo? you can't just pop by and holler bingo any time you please, you'll cause pandemonium among* the elderly farkers

/guy could get arrested for that
//then you'll be sorry for hollering bingo
///* or maybe amongst
 
2013-04-01 11:50:50 PM
i.telegraph.co.uk

Meanwhile, in Abu Dhabi...
 
2013-04-01 11:52:05 PM
Were the engineers sober or did they *ahem* Thai one on?
 
2013-04-01 11:54:51 PM

loonatic112358: You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea


flavorwire.files.wordpress.com

Capital Gate, Abu Dhabi


The Thai have nothing on the Turks, who do barrel rolls with buildings.

YouTuber
 
2013-04-01 11:55:04 PM

Gyrfalcon: Satanic_Hamster: Voiceofreason01: Satanic_Hamster: Man, someone REALLY farked up on the subsurface/foundation work.  That, and/or the contractor/owner decided to go cheap on the foundations and poured a much smaller slab then needed and neglected to put any pilings.

bingo

Question is; did the builder neglect to do any sort of geo survey or engineering work?   Not unknown for a half assed builder just to use a design that he already had on the shelves that was meant for a site with much better ground and neglected to see if it would even work at that location.

Dude, that building itself is shelves. They probably just brought the whole thing in one night, graded the site level and propped the building up with a few toothpicks and called it a day.


Ikea building kit?
 
2013-04-02 12:13:57 AM

Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]


China. The Libertarian paradise of small government that doesn't interfere with businesses, has virtually no regulations for business and craps on the environment.
 
2013-04-02 12:23:21 AM
They are not big on urban planning in Thailand. Bangkok's skyline looks sort of like....

Have you ever seen the movie "Cool World?" Sort of like that. Basically if a plot opens up, build as high as you can there. It's weird and spikey and completely uncoordinated.
 
2013-04-02 12:25:47 AM
Everyone said I was daft to build an apartment building on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the apartment building in all of Thailand.
 
2013-04-02 12:27:59 AM
img341.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-02 12:28:21 AM

SuperNinjaToad: Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]

I'm actually surprised by the fact that the main structure is intact. Other than the obviously shiatty foundation the building itself is obviously rock soild. You would think a building that falls would not be intact like that afterward.


That's because it takes a lot to demolish a concrete and steel building, even a shoddily built one. Imagine what it takes to bring down a well constructed one. Some are even built to withstand aircraft hits, sustained hurricane force winds (which far exceed the forces of any aircraft ever built) and large destructive fires...
 
2013-04-02 12:34:56 AM

maxheck: They are not big on urban planning in Thailand. Bangkok's skyline looks sort of like....
Have you ever seen the movie "Cool World?" Sort of like that. Basically if a plot opens up, build as high as you can there. It's weird and spikey and completely uncoordinated.


It's the same at street level.
But...goddamn you gotta love Bangkok street life, no matter how farked up it seems.
 
2013-04-02 12:38:08 AM
Eh, 110, 220, whatever it takes.
 
2013-04-02 12:50:18 AM
 I wonder how much the floor leans up in the Somerset Maugham  Suite?
 
2013-04-02 01:11:27 AM
0Icky0:

Not really a good excuse, since the Roman Colosseum was also built on the site of a lake.

Only if you're thorough as the Romans. Mexico City was built on a lake. Originally you walked up to enter the Cathedral. Now you walk *down* a few steps, and it's weird as heck walking through the central nave, all the lamps are hanging funny until you figure out, no, they're hanging straight down, YOU are walking funny because the floor is tilted.

Washington DC? Built on a swamp. Both the Lincoln Memorial and most especially the Washington Monument have needed significant engineering to stay vertical.

But...goddamn you gotta love Bangkok street life, no matter how farked up it seems.

Didn't actually get to wander around in Bangkok the way I did in some cities in the region. Was always on the way elsewhere, so pretty much airport, hotel, and 7-11. I did go to a tranny club with a bunch of tourists, because that's what a bunch of tourists want to do in Bangkok. I have pictures of me with a tranny hooker, maybe that's what this thread needs.

/ no, did not partake.
 
2013-04-02 01:29:55 AM

maxheck: / no, did not partake.


As far as you remember, which is all that really matters.
 
2013-04-02 01:35:07 AM

Amos Quito: FTA: "He said relevant agencies will look into ways to deal with the building to protect people's lives and assets."


[www.veteranstoday.com image 300x300]

Unavailable for consultation


Of course Obama is unavailable. We need him here and not taking a vacation in some other country.
 
2013-04-02 01:37:11 AM
0Icky0:

maxheck: / no, did not partake.

As far as you remember, which is all that really matters.


Preeeeety sure I would have heard about it. :P

"Hey Max! You were really going at it with that tranny hooker last night..."
 
2013-04-02 02:11:14 AM

Raider_dad: Shame they don't believe a little more.


So damn well played. Awesome.
 
2013-04-02 03:18:38 AM

Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]


I'll see your building falling on its side and raise you another 90 degrees:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWe1b_2yE4
 
2013-04-02 05:21:17 AM

0Icky0: Benevolent Misanthrope: FTFA: It was reported that the construction site used to be a pond and that may be the reason for the subsidence.

I imagine that's why.

Not really a good excuse, since the Roman Colosseum was also built on the site of a lake.
And it ain't leaning much.
I'm going to go with corner cutting.
(I know...they did that with the Colosseum too, which is why it is oval)


you see how the outer and inner walls on one side of the colosseum are collapsed and the thing is in ruins? they built that side over a reclaimed riverbed

the parts not built where the river was are standing just fine.
 
2013-04-02 07:42:09 AM
It probably has a penis too.

I'll never trust another Thai again.
 
2013-04-02 08:13:13 AM
www.gia.uk.com

Currently being built (almost Finished) at 20 fenchurch street, London
 
2013-04-02 08:21:33 AM

TwowheelinTim: SuperNinjaToad: Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]

I'm actually surprised by the fact that the main structure is intact. Other than the obviously shiatty foundation the building itself is obviously rock soild. You would think a building that falls would not be intact like that afterward.

That's because it takes a lot to demolish a concrete and steel building, even a shoddily built one. Imagine what it takes to bring down a well constructed one. Some are even built to withstand aircraft hits, sustained hurricane force winds (which far exceed the forces of any aircraft ever built) and large destructive fires...


you sound like a truther :)
 
2013-04-02 08:33:53 AM
It's the angle of the dangle.
 
2013-04-02 09:17:11 AM
Sopon Pornchokchai

Thai names are best names
 
2013-04-02 11:21:11 AM

capilot: Elegy: Chinese did it better
[i.imgur.com image 300x187]

I'll see your building falling on its side and raise you another 90 degrees:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWe1b_2yE4


I hadn't seen that. Pretty impressive, thanks!
 
2013-04-02 11:38:46 AM

wildcardjack: loonatic112358: You know, I think deliberately engineering a building so that it appears to lean like the tower of Pisa, but has level floors inside would be a great idea

[flavorwire.files.wordpress.com image 600x450]

Capital Gate, Abu Dhabi


The Thai have nothing on the Turks, who do barrel rolls with buildings.

YouTuber


I have that stapler.
 
2013-04-02 03:38:29 PM

TwowheelinTim: sustained hurricane force winds (which far exceed the forces of any aircraft ever built) and large destructive fires...


Ahhh... yeah? I would think a 777, fully loaded and about to rip it's wings off, at full speed would pack a pretty big wallop!
But, I am no Nuclear Theologies!
 
2013-04-02 04:02:04 PM
But could Galileo shoot a ping pong ball out of his cooch?
 
2013-04-02 04:03:40 PM

Hots_Kebabs: Voiceofreason01: bingo

bingo? you can't just pop by and holler bingo any time you please, you'll cause pandemonium among* the elderly farkers

/guy could get arrested for that
//then you'll be sorry for hollering bingo
///* or maybe amongst


Housie housie?
 
2013-04-02 06:50:08 PM
It's been 40 degrees here in Bangkok for the last couple of months. So, it is leaning at 40 degrees....Celsius

And no, they don't use piles here that I've seen.

The construction method is rebar/concrete - no steel beams anywhere. Identical to what they used in Haiti - post and diaphragm floors. No shear walls or x-bracing. This place goes seismic, I'm guessing 20% of the city of its 13 million inhabitants will be buying the rice paddy.

/subby
 
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