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2013-04-01 11:21:51 AM  
Well, that's one way to clear out the riff-raff
 
2013-04-01 11:38:56 AM  
What a genius plan by NRA and right wing authorities. Give poor people and minorities free guns to kill each other off.

Everyone profits:
The prison industry will boom
Hospitals and big pharma will triple their business
Mortuary businesses
And police will have plenty of things to do. And more opportunities to try out their toys.
 
2013-04-01 12:00:03 PM  
There is no possible way this could backfire...
 
2013-04-01 12:00:20 PM  
a gun is like a can opener. only it can open the wallets of the people you point it at! smart, right?
 
2013-04-01 12:00:36 PM  

Godscrack: What a genius plan by NRA and right wing authorities. Give poor people and minorities free guns to kill each other off.

Everyone profits:
The prison industry will boom
Hospitals and big pharma will triple their business
Mortuary businesses
And police will have plenty of things to do. And more opportunities to try out their toys.


Who says they can't math?
 
2013-04-01 12:00:51 PM  
I wish I had a pic for just how bad an idea this is.....
 
2013-04-01 12:02:38 PM  
Another example of American exceptionalism - keep that suicide success rate high!
 
2013-04-01 12:03:52 PM  
Best. Idea. EVAR. America, fark YAH!
 
2013-04-01 12:05:13 PM  
April Fool's?
 
2013-04-01 12:05:36 PM  
Arming desperate people is always good.
 
2013-04-01 12:05:45 PM  
Repeat.
 
Still stupid.
 
2013-04-01 12:06:11 PM  
I assume blacks and hispanics need not apply?
 
2013-04-01 12:06:37 PM  
If they give guns to people with clean records; I don't have a problem with it. In some communities; police response times are 30-45 minutes. That's an aweful long time.

/ they aren't giving guns to suicidal people; ya damned trolls
 
2013-04-01 12:06:53 PM  
In Houston too?  They really better hope the Astros are middle of the pack.  Bad year, riots with guns.  World Series win (however unlikely) bigger riots with guns.
 
2013-04-01 12:07:12 PM  
I'm fine with this idea.  As long as they also give them the addresses of all the CEO's and stock brokers and etc. in the area as well.
 
2013-04-01 12:07:24 PM  

rv4-farker: I assume blacks and hispanics need not apply?


They all already HAVE guns.
 
2013-04-01 12:07:52 PM  

here to help: Repeat.
 
Still stupid.


Damn it, I was hoping it was April Fools.
 
2013-04-01 12:09:16 PM  
This is sure going to end well.
Just like this thread.
 
2013-04-01 12:09:56 PM  
"Handing out guns in a high-crime neighborhood is like distributing cigarettes in a community with a high incidence of respiratory disease," said Ladd Everitt, the Director of Communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

um... no. no it isn't. you're operating under the incorrect assumption that guns cause crime.
 
2013-04-01 12:11:43 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: April Fool's?


My first thought too, but it's dated yesterday.  That being said, if they're giving out home defense shotguns to women with clean background checks who have gone through a training program it's not the worst idea ever.  Then again, unless they've checked out their boyfriends and family members as well, it might be.
 
2013-04-01 12:12:23 PM  

ChipNASA: rv4-farker: I assume blacks and hispanics need not apply?

They all already HAVE guns.


It's those damned Irish that need not apply!

/ I keed, I keed

// less fortunate people can have free phones; but, can't ever have guns. Because, guns bad and if you like guns, you're bad.

/ they're not just going to a street corner and just giving out guns
 
2013-04-01 12:13:23 PM  
I wish this were April Fools, but this idea has been going around for a while. The biggest flaw is that if you give poor people something of value that they really don't use all of the time, then they are going to pawn or sell if for cash pretty quickly. If you have a $500 pistol sitting in your drawer and rent is due, that gun is going to get exchanged for cash. A better strategy is to improve police service in these areas, especially response times. Even your hardcore gun nut is going to call the police first *if* that's an option. Pulling out the hardware is always a last resort - no one wants a homicide on their conscience, legally justified or not.
 
2013-04-01 12:14:08 PM  
1)
Who is going to fund this? Gun nuts are mostly motivated by fear of urban minorities

2)
If it gets funding, racist gun nuts will abuse the program like they do the gun buy-backs
 
2013-04-01 12:15:31 PM  
On the positive side, pawn shops in the area will receive an influx of new guns.
 
2013-04-01 12:15:33 PM  
a57.foxnews.com

One person in this class failed to understand about trigger discipline.
 
2013-04-01 12:15:53 PM  
Silly poor people, no 2nd Amendment rights for you. Go be victims somewhere else.
 
2013-04-01 12:16:13 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: "Handing out guns in a high-crime neighborhood is like distributing cigarettes in a community with a high incidence of respiratory disease," said Ladd Everitt, the Director of Communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

um... no. no it isn't. you're operating under the incorrect assumption that guns cause crime.


No he isn't he's operating under the assumption that giving guns to people who are statistically more likely to be criminals is a bad idea, and it is. If anything he's guilty of making a shiatty simile.
 
2013-04-01 12:16:14 PM  
www.iveknownrivers.org
 
2013-04-01 12:16:48 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: here to help: Repeat.

Still stupid.

Damn it, I was hoping it was April Fools.


Reality troll.

Here's the original article thread...

Derp

It's even stupider than this article is saying. It's a failed AW politician who wants to hand out single shot shotguns to a neighborhood he has no affiliation with and don't even want the guns in the first place.

Unless this is another assclown. I didn't bother to check.
 
2013-04-01 12:18:31 PM  

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

One person in this class failed to understand about trigger discipline.


As well as 'Put down the fork' discipline.
 
2013-04-01 12:20:11 PM  

jaytkay: 1)
Who is going to fund this? Gun nuts are mostly motivated by fear of urban minorities

2)
If it gets funding, racist gun nuts will abuse the program like they do the gun buy-backs


My favorite gun "buy back" stories always involve a guy setting up a booth across the street offering $25 more for specific guns. Followed closely by the guy that sold junk to buy new rifles for a summer camp.

/ calling someone racist doesn't automatically make them racist
 
2013-04-01 12:21:16 PM  

iheartscotch: If they give guns to people with clean records; I don't have a problem with it.


First background checks, then registration, then confiscation.
 
2013-04-01 12:24:48 PM  
l3.yimg.com

Pioneer filmmaking at it finest.
 
2013-04-01 12:26:46 PM  

Yes please: Bennie Crabtree: April Fool's?

My first thought too, but it's dated yesterday.  That being said, if they're giving out home defense shotguns to women with clean background checks who have gone through a training program it's not the worst idea ever.  Then again, unless they've checked out their boyfriends and family members as well, it might be.


static2.businessinsider.com
 
2013-04-01 12:27:24 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: iheartscotch: If they give guns to people with clean records; I don't have a problem with it.

First background checks, then registration, then confiscation.


I'm ok with background checks. Registration, however, is just too easy to abuse. I don't need some asshat from the times publishing my name and address every 6 months.

I know, I know; nobody is trying to take your guns. Well, nobody is trying pretty damn hard for not existing aren't they?
 
2013-04-01 12:29:49 PM  
FTFA: ""Handing out guns in a high-crime neighborhood is like distributing cigarettes in a community with a high incidence of respiratory disease," said Ladd Everitt, the Director of Communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence."

Holy shiat. Can this guy be any more of an arrogant elitist asshole? And (if we are discussing minorities) a racist? Wow. Just... wow.
 
2013-04-01 12:30:17 PM  
Made me think of this for some raisin:

www.gamereplays.org

"AK-47s ... for everyone!"

* crowd cheers *
 
2013-04-01 12:30:45 PM  

graeth: I wish I had a pic for just how bad an idea this is.....


Homer opening a beer with his pistol...
 
2013-04-01 12:31:29 PM  
 
2013-04-01 12:32:07 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-btcKloSs

A free weapons giveaway program.  It's gonna solve all these goddamn problems.
 
2013-04-01 12:34:48 PM  

Godscrack: What a genius plan by NRA and right wing authorities. Give poor people and minorities free guns to kill each other off.

Everyone profits:
The prison industry will boom
Hospitals and big pharma will triple their business
Mortuary businesses
And police will have plenty of things to do. And more opportunities to try out their toys.


You too, Alice. GUN CONTROL! NO GUNZ FOR TEH POORS! Oh, yeah, but it's OK if my bodyguards are armed with Uzis.....

Newsflash, asshole: poor people that need self-protection even more than rich ones. Read the farking stats.

You sound well off, white, and self-satisfied.
 
2013-04-01 12:37:26 PM  
slurmed.com
 
2013-04-01 12:37:26 PM  

iheartscotch: If they give guns to people with clean records; I don't have a problem with it. In some communities; police response times are 30-45 minutes. That's an aweful long time.

/ they aren't giving guns to suicidal people; ya damned trolls


Finally, someone else with common sense and a brain.
 
2013-04-01 12:37:41 PM  

iheartscotch: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: iheartscotch: If they give guns to people with clean records; I don't have a problem with it.

First background checks, then registration, then confiscation.

I'm ok with background checks. Registration, however, is just too easy to abuse. I don't need some asshat from the times publishing my name and address every 6 months.

I know, I know; nobody is trying to take your guns. Well, nobody is trying pretty damn hard for not existing aren't they?


Often, when individuals who claim that fears of registration leading to confiscation are paranoia are presented with documentation of registration actually leading to confiscation, they admit that they in fact approve of such confiscation.
 
2013-04-01 12:39:17 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: "Handing out guns in a high-crime neighborhood is like distributing cigarettes in a community with a high incidence of respiratory disease," said Ladd Everitt, the Director of Communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

um... no. no it isn't. you're operating under the incorrect assumption that guns cause crime.


Damn. Another person with common sense and a brain.
 
2013-04-01 12:39:50 PM  
Poor people of America, COWER IN FEAR!

You have no right to protect yourselves. If trouble comes knocking at your door:

1) notify authorities
2) Hide under bed
3) make NO attempt to protect yourself or others, the coroner's officicials will be there shortly to take measurments for your state approved burial box.
 
2013-04-01 12:40:56 PM  
As someone who's been poor all his life and probably always will be, I think the problem with poor people is there are too damn many of us. Oversupply of labor makes us cheap, replaceable, interchangeable and damn near worthless as individuals to our society and so to ourselves. And it's troublingly ironic that better-off people persuade themselves that they're carrying us, as if their TVs come on and their goods are delivered by lucky accidents.

One answer is mass death among the bottom 47% or so. Withdrawal from the world of work provides value for those who process us -- bureaucrats of the welfare system, writers and politicians and those in "criminal justice," for example -- but a broad wave of us ceasing to exist as living breathing objects to be exploited and scorned would only provide value for grave-diggers and corpse-burners and then only for a short while.

Only when the spoiled brats of the bourgeoisie are reduced to digging their own coal, hauling their own trash, fighting their own wars and finding their own food will they realize that we were good for something after all. Ideally there will be enough of us left to command better pay and treatment (if we bother lifting a finger), but if they learn so late that their civilization collapses that's their own damn problem.

Perhaps a proletarian Masada would be a wonderful idea: perhaps the poor in America should set an example for the rest of the world of refusing to continue being trodden down. And as there's no surer way to off yourself than to stick a firearm in your mouth we should embrace this effort to arm us with both hands. Eliminating poverty would hurt the rich more than us.

/ I might be being "ironic" but I'm still too undercaffeinated to know for sure.
 
2013-04-01 12:42:36 PM  
iheartscotch:

/ they're not just going to a street corner and just giving out guns

They sure as hell ought to. "One per person, step right up!"
 
2013-04-01 12:43:21 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: FTFA: ""Handing out guns in a high-crime neighborhood is like distributing cigarettes in a community with a high incidence of respiratory disease," said Ladd Everitt, the Director of Communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence."

Holy shiat. Can this guy be any more of an arrogant elitist asshole? And (if we are discussing minorities) a racist? Wow. Just... wow.


Be aware that the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence believes any use of a firearm against a human, even in legally justified self-defense, to be "wrong".
 
2013-04-01 12:47:15 PM  
iheartscotch:

/ they aren't giving guns to suicidal people; ya damned trolls

They sure as hell ought to.
 
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