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(Independent)   Sometimes when kids watch "funny" videos online the effects can be horrifying, just ask this mother   ( independent.co.uk) divider line
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2013-04-01 09:10:59 AM  
"...25 per cent of internet searches are for pornographic content and on average almost 30,000 people are looking at porn at any given second."
 
Oh come on.  The Fark population alone probably exceeds that number in simultaneous porn consumption.
 
2013-04-01 09:14:25 AM  
Yes, oh great and knowledgeable parent person, shelter your son more. That way, he'll be guaranteed to grow up to become a well-adjusted member of society. There will definitely not be any negative repercussions from trying to protect him from things which he does not understand, and there will be zero chance of your little snowflake having sex-related psychological issues in his adult relationships with women.
 
2013-04-01 09:27:33 AM  
wait, the mom in the article was rational while taking to her son. at least she was able to talk to him AFTER the FACT. (why she didnt talk to him BEFORE the FACT was actual the cause of the problem. talk to your kids. NOW! Whoops too late.)
 
"educating pupils to the dangers of viewing internet pornography "
Yup, the author of the article agrees with the crazies. PORN KILLS!!!!
YES we should all be talking to kids about sex and porn. (teachers and parents, probably not farkers...)
YEs they are going to see it either way, no matter what you do. His not having a phone just meant that he would see it on his friends phone.
 
"Too young to have a phone."
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH
For 8 billion years parents have been using this moronic chestnut to keep from having to spend money and to punish their children because when they were kids they had to walk up hill both ways in the snow.
 
/farkem
//no, NOT the kids. the parents
 
2013-04-01 09:27:37 AM  
She's just happy her son didn't find that "art film" she made in college with all those amputee clowns and Irish Wolfhounds.
 
2013-04-01 09:31:47 AM  
There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."
 
2013-04-01 09:43:44 AM  

Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."


I was thinking that too. While it is possible, it was much more likely that SHE was feeling his childhood ending.
Welcome to your teenage son. Too bad you didnt talk to him about sex and porn on the internet before this.
 
2013-04-01 09:44:52 AM  
Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?
 
2013-04-01 09:46:52 AM  
I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.
 
2013-04-01 09:50:31 AM  
I blame the parent. The kid was smart enough, after viewing said pron, to change the settings on the phone to 'strict'...the parent should of done that immediately prior to giving their kid the phone. The author's stated how they saw pron all over the internet and still gave the phone to their kid with unlimited viewing ability.
 
Parental FAIL.
 
2013-04-01 09:50:51 AM  
There's porn on the internet?  And some people like to con other people into clicking links as a trick? (NSFW)

NOWAI
 
2013-04-01 09:50:59 AM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


I remember ... well both times a GF found my porn and then lost her little mind.
Shocking, but your vagina will NEVER, EVER be enough.
 
2013-04-01 09:51:04 AM  

staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?


Literally never.
 
2013-04-01 09:59:27 AM  
...And when the woman has four penises in her at the same time, then stands over the men and pees on them, is that part of being in love too? Five midgets, spanking a man... covered in Thousand Island dressing. Is that making love?
 
2013-04-01 10:00:21 AM  

xanadian: There's porn on the internet?


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2013-04-01 10:02:04 AM  

kbronsito: ...And when the woman has four penises in her at the same time, then stands over the men and pees on them, is that part of being in love too? Five midgets, spanking a man... covered in Thousand Island dressing. Is that making love?


yes
if that is your thing
 
LOL
 
2013-04-01 10:02:06 AM  
Addicted to porn?  Can't seem to get enough?  Having trouble quitting?
 
Get the Lizi Patch!
 
2013-04-01 10:02:15 AM  
Well, on the bright side, she now has one of the few 11 year olds who knows how to properly administer a Hot Karl.
 
2013-04-01 10:44:29 AM  
 But I recognise that this time the internet has crept up and slapped me right in the face.
 
Just wait until she sees the article comments.
 
2013-04-01 10:47:22 AM  
"The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.
 
2013-04-01 10:47:39 AM  

Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."


But he's so withdrawn and sullen! And now he's changed the settings on his smartphone so his mom can't see if he looks at porn!
 
2013-04-01 10:48:13 AM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Man, living at home is such a drag
 
2013-04-01 10:48:49 AM  
FTA "We talk about how women in the video he saw are real people, forced into very unpleasant situations - perhaps mums and sisters, certainly daughters"
 She is thinking of pornstars as a daughter! What kind of sick fark is she?!
 
2013-04-01 10:49:18 AM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

 
That was around the same time my pop caught me smoking and said "no way"
 
2013-04-01 10:50:23 AM  

Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."

 
Exactly.  From the article:  He told me he couldn't "unsee" it, and how he felt his childhood was effectively over.
 
It's pretty damn obvious that the author is putting words into her kid's mouth here.  I don't doubt that he was shocked by seeing something extreme, but there's no way in hell an 11 year old actually said that.  She's clearly projecting some of her own emotional response onto him.
 
That said, any guesses as to what it was he saw?  My guess is it involves one cup.
 
2013-04-01 10:50:27 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.


Interesting, isn't it? No one ever seems to stumble on normal porn, they always manage to stumble upon violent toilet hardware amputee interracial hand job porn.

Even though that's the stuff you usually have to pay for.
 
2013-04-01 10:51:23 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.


Came in to say this.  I'd prefer to be the judge of whether or not it was violent porn.
 
2013-04-01 10:51:59 AM  

kbronsito: ...And when the woman has four penises in her at the same time, then stands over the men and pees on them, is that part of being in love too? Five midgets, spanking a man... covered in Thousand Island dressing. Is that making love?


Not quite....but almost.
 
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2013-04-01 10:51:59 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.


I know, right? How can we judge how "horrifying" it was without viewing it?

/maybe it was that Japanese girl firing eels out of her pooper
 
2013-04-01 10:53:09 AM  
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Well, I'm all grown up now.
 
2013-04-01 10:58:12 AM  
FTA  So I'm left cuddling my son, who is strung between childhood and adolescence. He tells me that everything is moving too fast. We talk about his observation that you can't "unsee" stuff.
 
Even after this gem the article did not move in the expected direction, and continued to be blah blah blah.  She will NEVER be able to make it as a writer for Penthouse forum
 
2013-04-01 10:58:17 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.


For all we know it was a clip from Shame or Girl with the Dragon Tattoo the ruined this snowflakes moms day.
 
2013-04-01 10:58:37 AM  

VimFuego: That was around the same time my pop caught me smoking and said "no way"


I work with your pop, that hypocrite smokes 2 packs a day
 
2013-04-01 10:58:38 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.


Yeah...Feeling a little weird that I wanna see the video.
 
But, if there were an instructional on the best way for a mom to not give her son weird sexual hangups for life...this would be the opposite of it.
 
2013-04-01 11:00:23 AM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


So... did she let you keep the substandard ones?
 
2013-04-01 11:02:13 AM  
You fap, you lose.
 
2013-04-01 11:03:53 AM  
Man, when I was his age I had bangedup and rotten and a link fest of the most disgusting things imaginable, but being force-fed ritalin 3 times a day "ended" my childhood long before that.

Not to mention the faces of death series was available at the corner store on VHS.

Whining about porn?

Go to the Holocaust museum.
 
2013-04-01 11:05:20 AM  
Throw the kid a lemonparty. That will make him feel better.
 
2013-04-01 11:06:37 AM  
If nothing else, these comments are doing a good job of showing me which Farkers were both alive AND paying attention to their surroundings in 1987.
 
2013-04-01 11:08:43 AM  
He watched it because one of his new friends told him he should - because it was "funny".

His "new friend":

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"Hey, kid! Wanna help me get some mops and buckets from my van?"
 
2013-04-01 11:10:13 AM  
Whatever that kid is looking at can't be as scarring to him as how this appears to be playing out:
 
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2013-04-01 11:12:33 AM  

theguyyousaw: Man, when I was his age I had bangedup and rotten and a link fest of the most disgusting things imaginable, but being force-fed ritalin 3 times a day "ended" my childhood long before that.

Not to mention the faces of death series was available at the corner store on VHS.

Whining about porn?

Go to the Holocaust museum.


Damn, Faces of Death, yeah I was around 11 or 12 when I discovered those and the neighbourhood video store. 
 
/Child of the 80s
//dad kept his Hustlers on the top shelf in the bathroom, you know, so I couldn't find em....
 
2013-04-01 11:14:24 AM  

offmymeds: "Hey, kid! Wanna help me get some mops and buckets from my van?"


"fark no, old man.  That guy over there has candy in his van!"
 
2013-04-01 11:15:02 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: Whatever that kid is looking at can't be as scarring to him as how this appears to be playing out:


She does have a "WTF is wrong with this kid?" look on her face, doesn't she?
 
2013-04-01 11:15:22 AM  
Shut up, mom.  Kid's gotta learn about bukakke sometime...
 
2013-04-01 11:18:45 AM  
But a clip for Hostel or Saw 7.  Well that would have been ok, because those films are without p-ness
 
2013-04-01 11:18:53 AM  

sleeper2995: FTA "We talk about how women in the video he saw are real people, forced into very unpleasant situations - perhaps mums and sisters, certainly daughters"
 She is thinking of pornstars as a daughter! What kind of sick fark is she?!


um
if they were forced into porn, they should go to the police and demand that the rapists be arrested.
 
god I hate these people who ... oh never mind
fark it
 
2013-04-01 11:20:46 AM  
"But then there is the degrading, shockingly violent porn that showed him a dark underbelly of an online world that until that moment was largely populated by Minecraft and Harry Potter."
 
Wait until he learns about Rule 34.
 
2013-04-01 11:23:47 AM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


You should have responded when she busted in and said, "What's that noise?"
 
2013-04-01 11:28:06 AM  
THX 1138:
That said, any guesses as to what it was he saw?  My guess is it involves one cup.
 
Probably some kind of "blooper" where the girl throws up or cries or someone poops by accident.  Which, no, isn't really "funny" unless you're a sadistic misogynist.
 
TFA: We also talk about how sometimes women choose to go into the sex industry and that when the work is on their terms, that's OK.
 
OK so she's not a sex-hating prude, the kid will probably turn out okay.  Honestly, I can see why someone would be unhappy that their 11-year-old saw violent or indisputably degrading porn.  I would be... and I think regular porn is great.  At that age, he lacks context to understand how what he's seeing fits in with the bigger picture of human sexuality.
 
2013-04-01 11:28:07 AM  

namatad: sleeper2995: FTA "We talk about how women in the video he saw are real people, forced into very unpleasant situations - perhaps mums and sisters, certainly daughters"
 She is thinking of pornstars as a daughter! What kind of sick fark is she?!

um
if they were forced into porn, they should go to the police and demand that the rapists be arrested.
 
god I hate these people who ... oh never mind
fark it


It's almost like this article was written from an old script that makes a lot of assumptions. Then again, I usually watch porn involving girls like Lily Thai, who are so enthusiastic they are positively gushing about how thrilled they are to get railed.
 
2013-04-01 11:28:22 AM  
I am of the opinion that the incident she is describing... never actually happened. Makes for a convenient excuse for a porn-hating article.
 
The ethics of porn are complex. Some people think everything is simple. Therefore, they choose an opinion that lets them think a complex subject is not complex. This opinion is usually wrong.
 
/in b4 some sh*theel uses this post to bolster a political opinion that embodies this very principle
 
2013-04-01 11:29:29 AM  
Nine out of 10 schoolchildren have watched pornography online lazy parents
 
2013-04-01 11:30:04 AM  
My oldest brother's magazine collection was the stuff of legends in our neighborhood. My mom knew about it, too. But she was wise enough to leave it alone, and to leave his clean laundry on the bed instead of opening drawers.
 
Meh, internet-generation kid problems.
 
2013-04-01 11:30:22 AM  

alabasterblack: theguyyousaw: Man, when I was his age I had bangedup and rotten and a link fest of the most disgusting things imaginable, but being force-fed ritalin 3 times a day "ended" my childhood long before that.

 
Not to mention the faces of death series was available at the corner store on VHS.
 
Whining about porn?
 
Go to the Holocaust museum.
 
Damn, Faces of Death, yeah I was around 11 or 12 when I discovered those and the neighbourhood video store. 
 
/Child of the 80s
//dad kept his Hustlers on the top shelf in the bathroom, you know, so I couldn't find em....

 
We seem to be similar in age.  I watched Faces of Death around the same time.  As for porn mag's... My friend's grandpa owned a grocery store.  He didn't care if we took last months issues as long as we properly took off the cover so they could ship them back.
 
2013-04-01 11:31:36 AM  

alabasterblack: theguyyousaw: Man, when I was his age I had bangedup and rotten and a link fest of the most disgusting things imaginable, but being force-fed ritalin 3 times a day "ended" my childhood long before that.

Not to mention the faces of death series was available at the corner store on VHS.

Whining about porn?

Go to the Holocaust museum.

Damn, Faces of Death, yeah I was around 11 or 12 when I discovered those and the neighbourhood video store. 
 
/Child of the 80s
//dad kept his Hustlers on the top shelf in the bathroom, you know, so I couldn't find em....


I remember watching "funny" videos at my friend's house after school, there was one called circus freaks or something. I naively thought I was about to see some 'tallest man', 'smallest woman', 'bearded lady' shiat. Still one of the "funniest" videos I've chanced upon.
 
2013-04-01 11:46:25 AM  

EViLTeW: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: "The day my 11-year-old son found violent porn on the web"
 
And no link provided in TFA.

Came in to say this.  I'd prefer to be the judge of whether or not it was violent porn.


Yeah, for all we know it was just some video of a chick taking a jizzblast to the face. Hardly violent, but to Pruneface McUptight in the article it's all ZOMG, VIOLENCE AGAINST WIMMINZ!!!!
 
2013-04-01 11:47:17 AM  

Saborlas: I am of the opinion that the incident she is describing... never actually happened. Makes for a convenient excuse for a porn-hating article.
 
The ethics of porn are complex. Some people think everything is simple. Therefore, they choose an opinion that lets them think a complex subject is not complex. This opinion is usually wrong.
 
/in b4 some sh*theel uses this post to bolster a political opinion that embodies this very principle


It was cute how the part of the article with the mother and son, was sex positive, open and honest; but the part about the teachers and porn were about the EVIL OF PORN.
 
LOL
 
2013-04-01 11:48:02 AM  

Fano: namatad: sleeper2995: FTA "We talk about how women in the video he saw are real people, forced into very unpleasant situations - perhaps mums and sisters, certainly daughters"
 She is thinking of pornstars as a daughter! What kind of sick fark is she?!

um
if they were forced into porn, they should go to the police and demand that the rapists be arrested.
 
god I hate these people who ... oh never mind
fark it

It's almost like this article was written from an old script that makes a lot of assumptions. Then again, I usually watch porn involving girls like Lily Thai, who are so enthusiastic they are positively gushing about how thrilled they are to get railed.


Fap fap fap
 
2013-04-01 11:49:05 AM  
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2013-04-01 11:52:20 AM  

alabasterblack: theguyyousaw: Man, when I was his age I had bangedup and rotten and a link fest of the most disgusting things imaginable, but being force-fed ritalin 3 times a day "ended" my childhood long before that.

Not to mention the faces of death series was available at the corner store on VHS.

Whining about porn?

Go to the Holocaust museum.

Damn, Faces of Death, yeah I was around 11 or 12 when I discovered those and the neighbourhood video store. 
 
/Child of the 80s
//dad kept his Hustlers on the top shelf in the bathroom, you know, so I couldn't find em....


I remember watching a couple of those videos and thinking that they were staged...
I distinctly remember one that showed a tour of meat processing plants, and it also featured the "death" of a lady who fell from a fire escape... you see the video and the lady "fall", but you don't actually see her land, the cameraman runs over to the side of the fire escape and then points the camera down to a "corpse"... Just like so many hollywood movies... hell, even for the 80's and 90's SFX in movies like halloween or nightmare on elm street had more believable and graphic death scenes...
 
My father worked in a garage, where the bathroom was wallpapered with nudie posters and calendars, and the hustlers, penthouse, and playboys were stacked on the tank lid of the toilet...
 
2013-04-01 11:55:03 AM  

No Such Agency: Probably some kind of "blooper" where the girl throws up or cries or someone poops by accident.  Which, no, isn't really "funny" unless you're a sadistic misogynist.


I am not a sadistic misogynist, but I have to admit "someone poops by accident" would probably make me LOL.
 
2013-04-01 11:59:50 AM  
If you can't take five lousey minutes to talk to you kids about sex. . .
 
2013-04-01 12:12:47 PM  
Jesus christ, the kid is 11 so
a) he should already be familiar with porn
b) should be infatuated with it-not scarred by it.
c) might have teh gheys
d) is a pussy

When I was 11 I was smoking unfiltered lucky strikes (quit @ 16), smoking pot (no comment), drinking (never stopped) and looking for a connection for acid & coke (came around a year or two later).  Violent porn and Faces of death were old news.

Kids these days are never allowed to grow up or make mistakes, thats why they are all pussies.
 
2013-04-01 12:12:47 PM  
11 year old.

With a phone.

That's the source of your problems right there.

My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.
 
2013-04-01 12:19:54 PM  
FTFA: I held out giving him one, not due to fear of him having access to porn, but because I question why someone his age needs a phone.

Calling them "phones" isn't even accurate anymore.  They're pocket computers that have an app for making phone calls.
 
2013-04-01 12:21:57 PM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Busted.
 
2013-04-01 12:22:41 PM  

No Such Agency: THX 1138:
That said, any guesses as to what it was he saw?  My guess is it involves one cup.
 
Probably some kind of "blooper" where the girl throws up or cries or someone poops by accident.  Which, no, isn't really "funny" unless you're a sadistic misogynist.
 
TFA: We also talk about how sometimes women choose to go into the sex industry and that when the work is on their terms, that's OK.
 
OK so she's not a sex-hating prude, the kid will probably turn out okay.  Honestly, I can see why someone would be unhappy that their 11-year-old saw violent or indisputably degrading porn.  I would be... and I think regular porn is great.  At that age, he lacks context to understand how what he's seeing fits in with the bigger picture of human sexuality.


If only there were a way for parents to help their children understand such complex issues.

/then again ,I suppose I'm asking too much as their are innumerable adults walking around with childish notions about sex
 
2013-04-01 12:22:45 PM  
"Hey kid, want to see a funny video?"
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/This kind of thing wouldn't happen if they still had Very Special Episodes of shows.
 
2013-04-01 12:23:22 PM  
Predictably, it didn't take long to blame everything on "bad parenting".
 
2013-04-01 12:23:43 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: No Such Agency: THX 1138:
That said, any guesses as to what it was he saw?  My guess is it involves one cup.
 
Probably some kind of "blooper" where the girl throws up or cries or someone poops by accident.  Which, no, isn't really "funny" unless you're a sadistic misogynist.
 
TFA: We also talk about how sometimes women choose to go into the sex industry and that when the work is on their terms, that's OK.
 
OK so she's not a sex-hating prude, the kid will probably turn out okay.  Honestly, I can see why someone would be unhappy that their 11-year-old saw violent or indisputably degrading porn.  I would be... and I think regular porn is great.  At that age, he lacks context to understand how what he's seeing fits in with the bigger picture of human sexuality.

If only there were a way for parents to help their children understand such complex issues.

/then again ,I suppose I'm asking too much as their are innumerable adults walking around with childish notions about sex


there*

/fark, my mental editor seems to have called in sick today
 
2013-04-01 12:23:57 PM  
My 9 year old has had a phone since he was 7.  The problem is shiatty parents.  You need to teach your kids when it's acceptable to view porn, drink, and curse.
 
2013-04-01 12:25:14 PM  

2KanZam: Jesus christ, the kid is 11 so
a) he should already be familiar with porn
b) should be infatuated with it-not scarred by it.
c) might have teh gheys
d) is a pussy

When I was 11 I was smoking unfiltered lucky strikes (quit @ 16), smoking pot (no comment), drinking (never stopped) and looking for a connection for acid & coke (came around a year or two later).  Violent porn and Faces of death were old news.

Kids these days are never allowed to grow up or make mistakes, thats why they are all pussies.


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2013-04-01 12:25:56 PM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Me, too.

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2013-04-01 12:26:02 PM  

JohnTuttle: My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.


My niece is 12 and my sister just got her a phone recently.  My sister uses texting to organize pickup times and such.  Previously, she would just text one of my niece's friends who does have a phone. So finally she just decided to get her a phone of her own.

Times are changing, man.
 
2013-04-01 12:31:22 PM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Busted.
 
2013-04-01 12:36:43 PM  
That's a fine sissy you're raising there lady.. No wonder he can't make any friends.
 
2013-04-01 12:48:18 PM  

theorellior: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

Busted.


*shakes fist*
 
2013-04-01 12:51:47 PM  

JohnTuttle: 11 year old.
With a phone.
That's the source of your problems right there.
My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.


Molavian: My 9 year old has had a phone since he was 7.  The problem is shiatty parents.  You need to teach your kids when it's acceptable to view porn, drink, and curse.


So we have both cases here.
I wonder which set of kids will be less farked up.

Doesnt NEED is code for: I am cheap, jealous, prude, worried, dont want to talk to my kids about THOSE things. Sorry, maybe Tuttle HAS talked to his kids and just isnt going to spend the cash. Maybe she lives in Mayberry and never needs to reach the kids or worries where they might be.

While watching my niece grow up, I told her anything and everything she wanted to know. I might have been uncomfortable at times, but she always got an answer. She knew that she could always talk to me about EVERYTHING. She called me first after the first time. No way that she could ever talk to her religious prude parents about sex. I bought her her first lube. (she and her bf thanked me, which cracked me up to no end)(someone else has already gotten her her first toy)

People are naive to think that their "children" are not having or thinking about sex. Humans are naturally curious. Unless you use the fear of god to fark them up.
 
2013-04-01 12:53:16 PM  

Honest Bender: JohnTuttle: My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.

My niece is 12 and my sister just got her a phone recently.  My sister uses texting to organize pickup times and such.  Previously, she would just text one of my niece's friends who does have a phone. So finally she just decided to get her a phone of her own.

Times are changing, man.


computers, phones, internet, cable (LOL not dead yet, but still, with streaming ...)
Kids have always used the new stuff before the parents. oooooooooooooooooo shiney brb
 
2013-04-01 12:55:47 PM  
Agent Smiths Laugh:
No Such Agency: ...At that age, he lacks context to understand how what he's seeing fits in with the bigger picture of human sexuality.

If only there were a way for parents to help their children understand such complex issues.


Sure, you explain sex to them so when the time comes they approach it with self-confidence and safety.  But how is someone who's never even made it to second base yet supposed to absorb the idea that some people are into some WEIRD shiat?  Like anything, it's best to start with the basics.
 
2013-04-01 12:59:54 PM  

No Such Agency: Agent Smiths Laugh:
No Such Agency: ...At that age, he lacks context to understand how what he's seeing fits in with the bigger picture of human sexuality.

If only there were a way for parents to help their children understand such complex issues.

Sure, you explain sex to them so when the time comes they approach it with self-confidence and safety.  But how is someone who's never even made it to second base yet supposed to absorb the idea that some people are into some WEIRD shiat?  Like anything, it's best to start with the basics.


mhmm
The birds and the bees is about conception and babies. Sperm and egg. Baby chicks. Pollen and flowers.
I made the mistake of thinking the question was about penis and vagina once. Talk about too much information!!! LOLOL All she was REALLY asking was sperm and egg. LOLOLOL

My guess is that most people in my generation were already having sex by the time their parents ever talked about it, if they ever did.
 
2013-04-01 01:00:18 PM  
TTIUWTL
 
2013-04-01 01:07:50 PM  

THX 1138: Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."
 
Exactly.  From the article:  He told me he couldn't "unsee" it, and how he felt his childhood was effectively over.
 
It's pretty damn obvious that the author is putting words into her kid's mouth here.  I don't doubt that he was shocked by seeing something extreme, but there's no way in hell an 11 year old actually said that.  She's clearly projecting some of her own emotional response onto him.

I could imagine my 10 year old saying something like that. Not all kids are alike.
 
2013-04-01 01:17:07 PM  
mom you're just jealous it's the
 
2013-04-01 01:20:25 PM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu:

/This kind of thing wouldn't happen if they still had Very Special Episodes of shows.

Nice.  That prompted me to do some searching and I found all the best parts of that episode condensed into seven minutes.
 
2013-04-01 01:31:20 PM  

staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?


Michael Jackson.
 
2013-04-01 01:42:08 PM  

Jeepman1974: staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain in a child?

Michael Jackson.


FTFY
 
2013-04-01 01:48:47 PM  
*sigh* And the quest to censor the internet continues.
 
2013-04-01 01:52:33 PM  

THX 1138: Prank Call of Cthulhu:

/This kind of thing wouldn't happen if they still had Very Special Episodes of shows.

Nice.  That prompted me to do some searching and I found all the best parts of that episode condensed into seven minutes.


That was one of a trio of Very Special Episodes that helped make me who I am today:

- Arnold's friend gets ass raped by the Big Guy from WKRP
- Helen Hunt takes PCP and goes flying out a window
- Albert on Little House on the Prairie gets addicted to morphine, then goes through withdrawal and projectile barfs everywhere.

The last one was so Very Special we watched it in school and thereby learned to Just Say No.
 
2013-04-01 01:56:23 PM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Is your dad a hypocrite that smokes two packs a day?
 
2013-04-01 01:58:55 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: THX 1138: Prank Call of Cthulhu:

/This kind of thing wouldn't happen if they still had Very Special Episodes of shows.

Nice.  That prompted me to do some searching and I found all the best parts of that episode condensed into seven minutes.

That was one of a trio of Very Special Episodes that helped make me who I am today:

- Arnold's friend gets ass raped by the Big Guy from WKRP
- Helen Hunt takes PCP and goes flying out a window
- Albert on Little House on the Prairie gets addicted to morphine, then goes through withdrawal and projectile barfs everywhere.

The last one was so Very Special we watched it in school and thereby learned to Just Say No.


That final one would've been better if it was Meth.  Now THAT would be an awesome episode of Little House.
 
2013-04-01 02:04:34 PM  

THX 1138: Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."
 
Exactly.  From the article:  He told me he couldn't "unsee" it, and how he felt his childhood was effectively 
 
That said, any guesses as to what it was he saw?  My guess is it involves one cup.


From the "horrifying" aspect of it, my guess is he saw his mom getting it in every oriface from a black guy then getting money shot at the end (like they all do, so I am told).
 
2013-04-01 02:06:18 PM  
All my kid has to do to find extremely violent pornography is to type 'm' into the google search box on my computer.
Fortunately, he's young enough that it isn't an issue.

I don't think kids should consume stuff until they're old enough to understand things like how real life relationships work, how people should treat their significant others, and the difference between fantasy and reality.

My family will deal with it by limiting the kid's internet access, both in duration and in location. And I know he'll have a friend that finds some extreme porn and shares it. So we'll still talk about it.

But anyone denying that this is a problem that parents have to deal with is living in a fantasy world.
 
2013-04-01 02:07:18 PM  
A few days ago. my Wife comes to me with this look on her face. Out of habit, i asked what i did wrong this time and apologized for whatever i did this week to piss her off. Wasn't me this time, shocking i know. My 15 y/o daughter was watching anime porn on her Nook.
Wife was livid and asked me what i was going to do about it.

/asked for the link
//got the eat a bullet look
 
2013-04-01 02:08:16 PM  

staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?


Mine said that. He has also said he feels childhood is slipping away. Well, he is growing up, and it is. That's life.

As for porn on the computer, we have had lots of talks about that. For now, until he is older, if he comes across something inappropriate, he is instructed to just close the window and move on. I am a big believer in preparation. Frankly, he thinks the talks are embarrassing and annoying, but so be it. At least he isn't traumatized by the odd bad image on the web. He knows it isn't real and women don't usually go for that stuff.

Oh I could go on and on.
 
2013-04-01 02:10:22 PM  
11-year-old, prone to anxiety,<- all I need to deem this batch unfit for further reproduction.
 
2013-04-01 02:16:23 PM  

GiantRex: Yes, oh O great and knowledgeable parent person, shelter your son more.


FTFY.
 
2013-04-01 02:17:32 PM  

THX 1138: That final one would've been better if it was Meth.  Now THAT would be an awesome episode of Little House.


Breaking Bad meets Little House! Awesome!

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"I used to have a problem with the other kids making fun of me and taking my stuff. There was this one girl, this one piece of shiat, that I will never forget: Nellie. Blonde girl, always running her mouth, stealing stuff from my desk at school. One day at lunch time, I went to fetch my lunch pail, and there's Nellie polishing off the cheese Ma packed for me and humming 'Danny Boy'. And it just rubbed me wrong. So I go home, get Pa's gun, and I come back to school and I kneel her down and I put the gun in her mouth and I told her, "This is it. This is how it ends." And she's crying, going to the bathroom all over herself, swearing to God she's gonna change, screaming - much as you can with a gun in your mouth. And I told her to be quiet, that I needed to think about what I was gonna do here. And of course she got quiet, like a dog waiting for dinner scraps. And we just stood there for a while: me acting like I'm thinking things over, and Princess Olson there kneeling in the dirt with shiat on her dress. After a few minutes I took the gun out of her mouth and I say; "So help me if you ever steal another lunch again I will such and such and such and such and blah blah blah blah blah."  Just trying to do the right thing. But two weeks later she did it again. Of course. She went and ate everybody's lunch at school."

"The moral of the story is; I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. No more half measures. Now come on, Mary, we need to cook."
 
2013-04-01 02:18:24 PM  

Radak: "...25 per cent of internet searches are for pornographic content and on average almost 30,000 people are looking at porn at any given second."
 
Oh come on.  The Fark population alone probably exceeds that number in simultaneous porn consumption.


That is a truly epic understatement on the consumption of porn on the internet.
 
2013-04-01 02:19:13 PM  

VvonderJesus: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

You should have responded when she busted in and said, "What's that noise?"


She was probably just jealous.
 
2013-04-01 02:19:52 PM  

kbronsito: ...And when the woman has four penises in her at the same time, then stands over the men and pees on them, is that part of being in love too? Five midgets, spanking a man... covered in Thousand Island dressing. Is that making love?


DON'T JUDGE ME!
 
2013-04-01 02:21:42 PM  

VvonderJesus: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

You should have responded when she busted in and said, "What's that noise?"


I would have responded with "Oh mom you're just jealous it's the beastie boys"
 
2013-04-01 02:24:24 PM  
BammerTide:
A few days ago. my Wife comes to me with this look on her face. Out of habit, i asked what i did wrong this time and apologized for whatever i did this week to piss her off. Wasn't me this time, shocking i know. My 15 y/o daughter was watching anime porn on her Nook.
Wife was livid and asked me what i was going to do about it.

/asked for the link
//got the eat a bullet look


*Sigh* adolescence.  Sorry your daughter is a weeaboo, but most of them grow out of it.

Prank Call of Cthulhu:

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2013-04-01 02:30:02 PM  
That was the most pretentious "think about the children" article I have ever read.

Poor kid.
 
2013-04-01 02:34:04 PM  

IRQ12: That was the most pretentious "think about the children" article I have ever read.


Pretentious?  Yeah.  And The my-little-boy-is-so-very-sad-that-he's-losing-his-innocence aspect of it made me want to use the word "pwecious" too.
 
2013-04-01 02:37:45 PM  

offmymeds: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

Me, too.

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Fap fap fap
 
2013-04-01 02:40:39 PM  

Fano: It's almost like this article was written from an old script that makes a lot of assumptions. Then again, I usually watch porn involving girls like Lily Thai, who are so enthusiastic they are positively gushing about how thrilled they are to get railed.


There's a series of BDSM porn out there where women get tied up, slapped, hoisted up in the air --- and then at the end of the clip, there's like a 30-second "interview" with the actress where she talks about how much fun she had doing the shoot.  There's certainly plenty of porn in which the woman is enjoying herself and urging her partner on.  On the other hand, there's quite a lot of porn in which the woman is clearly NOT having fun, and indeed showing how much she dislikes what's being done to her seems to be the whole point of the video.

So I don't think the problem is porn per se, even "violent" porn.  Maybe the real question is does the porn feature women being victimized, or women who are in control and enjoying what they're doing?

Then again, there are women who fantasize about rape, so who knows, really?
 
2013-04-01 03:01:44 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: THX 1138: That final one would've been better if it was Meth.  Now THAT would be an awesome episode of Little House.

Breaking Bad meets Little House! Awesome!

"I used to have a problem with the other kids making fun of me and taking my stuff. There was this one girl, this one piece of shiat, that I will never forget: Nellie. Blonde girl, always running her mouth, stealing stuff from my desk at school. One day at lunch time, I went to fetch my lunch pail, and there's Nellie polishing off the cheese Ma packed for me and humming 'Danny Boy'. And it just rubbed me wrong. So I go home, get Pa's gun, and I come back to school and I kneel her down and I put the gun in her mouth and I told her, "This is it. This is how it ends." And she's crying, going to the bathroom all over herself, swearing to God she's gonna change, screaming - much as you can with a gun in your mouth. And I told her to be quiet, that I needed to think about what I was gonna do here. And of course she got quiet, like a dog waiting for dinner scraps. And we just stood there for a while: me acting like I'm thinking things over, and Princess Olson there kneeling in the dirt with shiat on her dress. After a few minutes I took the gun out of her mouth and I say; "So help me if you ever steal another lunch again I will such and such and such and such and blah blah blah blah blah."  Just trying to do the right thing. But two weeks later she did it again. Of course. She went and ate everybody's lunch at school."

"The moral of the story is; I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. No more half measures. Now come on, Mary, we need to cook."


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2013-04-01 03:16:54 PM  

namatad: Doesnt NEED is code for:


Funny how this person describes his acumen as an "Uncle" and not a "Parent".  What a complete tool. The truth is kids don't *need* TV, X-Boxes, cell phones, school lunches or designer clothes. NOT providing your kids with frivolous excesses is a judgement call that individual parents must make. Until kids are about 14, they have a very limited set of locations they *need* to be at, and a parent's responsibility is to make sure they get to and from those locations safely.  A cell phone is definitely not required to do this - even less necessary than "the baby-sitter needs to be able to reach me at the movie theater" excuse for cell phones.

In fact, "I NEED" a cell phone is as much code for "please find me and my smartphone cool" as "You don't NEED" a cell phone is code for "cheap".

TL;DR - you're a complete idiot, I'll bet you're the type of ass that blabbles loudly on your bluetooth headset while selecting pop-tart flavors with your "enlightened-thanks-to-your-one-of-a-kind-progressive-parental-insight " nephews and nieces.
 
2013-04-01 03:17:06 PM  

ciberido: There's a series of BDSM porn out there where women get tied up, slapped, hoisted up in the air --- and then at the end of the clip, there's like a 30-second "interview" with the actress where she talks about how much fun she had doing the shoot.  There's certainly plenty of porn in which the woman is enjoying herself and urging her partner on. On the other hand, there's quite a lot of porn in which the woman is clearly NOT having fun, and indeed showing how much she dislikes what's being done to her seems to be the whole point of the video.


so which is it?
because the latter porn doesnt have a nice clip at the end where she talks, it therefore must be against her will? HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHHAHA
yup
and all those orgasms are REAL!!
 
2013-04-01 03:21:12 PM  

holdeestrufs: TL;DR - you're a complete idiot, I'll bet you're the type of ass that blabbles loudly on your bluetooth headset while selecting pop-tart flavors with your "enlightened-thanks-to-your-one-of-a-kind-progressive-parental-insight " nephews and nieces.


yup
my poor retarded niece did not NEED a computer when she was a kid. but I got her one anyway. because her cheap ass mother said she didnt NEED one.

of course she doesnt NEED anything. other than food and shelter.
she certainly didnt NEED an education. certainly princeton is a complete waste of money and she didnt NEED college at all. Her father didnt need college and he made millions!!

Yes, I agree that NEED is used in the most insane ways.
Did she NEED that computer? for some definitions of the word NEED, of course not.
Did that computer help her get ahead in today's world? mhmm

Some people define need in strange ways. They would agree to a 100% tax for all income and wealth over a certain amount. LOLOL farkem

/I NEED amazon prime!!
 
2013-04-01 03:27:37 PM  

ciberido: Fano: It's almost like this article was written from an old script that makes a lot of assumptions. Then again, I usually watch porn involving girls like Lily Thai, who are so enthusiastic they are positively gushing about how thrilled they are to get railed.

There's a series of BDSM porn out there where women get tied up, slapped, hoisted up in the air --- and then at the end of the clip, there's like a 30-second "interview" with the actress where she talks about how much fun she had doing the shoot.  There's certainly plenty of porn in which the woman is enjoying herself and urging her partner on.  On the other hand, there's quite a lot of porn in which the woman is clearly NOT having fun, and indeed showing how much she dislikes what's being done to her seems to be the whole point of the video.

So I don't think the problem is porn per se, even "violent" porn.  Maybe the real question is does the porn feature women being victimized, or women who are in control and enjoying what they're doing?

Then again, there are women who fantasize about rape, so who knows, really?


And efore anyone claims such women are more mythical than unicorns, I did date a woman who got off on such porn, which she purchased from various overseas sites.

Heard "nyet,nyet!" Many times
 
2013-04-01 03:29:18 PM  

Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."


And we're done. Yet another pearl-clutching article, complete with disingenuous projection.
 
2013-04-01 03:40:14 PM  
Poor kid, I remember seeing my first Tila Tequila video
 
2013-04-01 03:48:42 PM  

FormlessOne: Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."

And we're done. Yet another pearl-clutching article, complete with disingenuous projection.


I made sure to reread the article, subbing in the voices of both the narrator from the Wonder Years and also Stand By Me.

I never saw porn like I did when I was eleven. Christ, does anybody?
 
2013-04-01 03:54:17 PM  
TFA: But I recognise that this time the internet has crept up and cockslapped me right in the face.

FTFY
 
2013-04-01 04:04:40 PM  
So what the fark was the name of the got damn video?  A link would be helpful too, I mean so that I can keep my kids from watching it you know.
 
2013-04-01 04:05:01 PM  
I never put parental controls on my son's Internet access.  Never talked to him about porn.  He's never been in any sex-related trouble and his gf of four years seems to adore him.  He's 22 now.

My anecdote's as significant at TFA's, just shorter.
 
2013-04-01 04:12:09 PM  
There's an old saying about the virtue of diplomacy to the effect of, "As long as they're talking to each other, they aren't shooting each other."

As long as people are watching porn they aren't raping, making babies, spreading disease, etc.

Yeah, they may be getting ideas.  But talking to each other may make nations hate each other more.
 
2013-04-01 04:16:01 PM  

staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?


This guy does.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/07/neil-havens-rodreick-ii-s_n _1 84382.html
 
2013-04-01 04:25:30 PM  
Not to take away from the womans point, but I'm pretty sure the first time i saw a violent rape was at the zoo.

But yes, people are horrible, and our society is broken.
 
2013-04-01 04:40:17 PM  

Saborlas: I am of the opinion that the incident she is describing... never actually happened. Makes for a convenient excuse for a porn-hating article.

The ethics of porn are complex. Some people think everything is simple. Therefore, they choose an opinion that lets them think a complex subject is not complex. This opinion is usually wrong.


But speaking of taking a complex issue and over-simplifying it, aren't you doing that to what she said?  She didn't say porn was evil, or even necessarily something that should be kept away from children.  If I may quote what I consider to be the core of her article, "This is not about censorship but education. It's about having frank discussions about the content that our generation has created and giving it a context for the younger generations who are consuming and replicating it."

Frankly, I think you're guilty of doing exactly what you're accusing her of doing: portraying it as a black-or-white question when it isn't.

/Now somebody get meta and tell me I'm guilty of doing exactly what I'm accusing Saborlas of doing.
//We need to go deeper.
 
2013-04-01 04:42:10 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Yeah, for all we know it was just some video of a chick taking a jizzblast to the face. Hardly violent, but to Pruneface McUptight in the article it's all ZOMG, VIOLENCE AGAINST WIMMINZ!!!!


It's funny how some people in this thread are accusing the woman of overreacting.  It's like a death row pardon two minutes two late.
 
2013-04-01 04:57:43 PM  

staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?


At the very least, I said it, my son said it, and my best friend's daughter said it.

All 3 were in the same basic situation: Kid was going through puberty, parent tells them about how their body and mind will be changing, and kid expresses a desire to not have to go through all that. Who can blame them (or should that be us?)? Puberty sucked.
 
2013-04-01 05:10:45 PM  

namatad: ciberido: There's a series of BDSM porn out there where women get tied up, slapped, hoisted up in the air --- and then at the end of the clip, there's like a 30-second "interview" with the actress where she talks about how much fun she had doing the shoot.  There's certainly plenty of porn in which the woman is enjoying herself and urging her partner on.  On the other hand, there's quite a lot of porn in which the woman is clearly NOT having fun, and indeed showing how much she dislikes what's being done to her seems to be the whole point of the video.

so which is it?
because the latter porn doesnt have a nice clip at the end where she talks, it therefore must be against her will?



Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I say, "so who knows, really?" or didn't quite grasp what I was trying to say.  But to answer your specific question:

Kids have trouble distinguishing between fiction and reality. It's a skill that develops with age.  You don't take your average four-year-old to see a movie like "Saving Private Ryan" because they aren't going to fully understand that it's just a story.  If a (sufficiently-young) kid watches a scene in which a woman is tied up, gagged, and slapped around, the kid isn't going to understand that it's just a story and the woman in the video is just a fictional character, while the ACTRESS who played the character wasn't actually in pain or danger and might even have been enjoying herself immensely --- unless you specifically TELL the kid that.

css time 1:
When I was a kid, I saw a movie in which a character lost a hand.  I don't remember which movie.  I understood that it was a work of fiction and that there was an actor pretending to be someone else, but I didn't understand how special effects worked and I thought the ACTOR had really lost his hand.  I imagined that the studio had found someone who agreed to have his hand chopped off in exchange for a lot of money.  I used to wonder how much money they had had to pay him to get him to agree to getting his hand cut off on camera.  I figured it must be quite a lot of money.  I even wondered whether or not I'd agree to let someone cut my hand off, if it meant I would be rich for the rest of my life.

css time 2:
When Forest Gump came out in 1994,  Gary Sinise was not nearly as well-know as he is now, and the digital effects they used to make him appear legless were brand new.  I had people I worked with argue over whether or not he was an amputee.  These were college-educated, presumably intelligent adults, and some of them had trouble believing that the actor had fully-functioning legs.

So I guess my point is, just because something seems painfully obvious to you, does not make it obvious to everyone, especially not when "everyone" includes ten-year-olds.
 
2013-04-01 05:15:14 PM  

Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.


Could have been worse, pal. My mom went through my porn stash marking specific pages she thought were wrong. Then I had to sit beside her while she went through them one at a time, explaining why those particular pictures were degrading.

Mom was generally awesome, and decades ahead of her time in figuring out how to relate to her mildly-autistic geek son (this would have been around 1973). Calm, rational explanations of "why" were indeed the right way to reach me...but this time I wish she'd just paperclipped notes to the pages for me to find and be embarrassed over alone!

OTOH I embarrassed her numerous times over not understanding certain questions should be asked privately, instead of in front of my great-grandparents, for example. So perhaps she was just getting even.   :)
 
2013-04-01 05:45:18 PM  

Fano: FormlessOne: Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."

And we're done. Yet another pearl-clutching article, complete with disingenuous projection.

I made sure to reread the article, subbing in the voices of both the narrator from the Wonder Years and also Stand By Me.

I never saw porn like I did when I was eleven. Christ, does anybody?


Damn you. Now I can't read the article without hearing it in that narrative...
 
2013-04-01 05:50:49 PM  

ciberido: namatad: ciberido: There's a series of BDSM porn out there where women get tied up, slapped, hoisted up in the air --- and then at the end of the clip, there's like a 30-second "interview" with the actress where she talks about how much fun she had doing the shoot.  There's certainly plenty of porn in which the woman is enjoying herself and urging her partner on.  On the other hand, there's quite a lot of porn in which the woman is clearly NOT having fun, and indeed showing how much she dislikes what's being done to her seems to be the whole point of the video.

so which is it?
because the latter porn doesnt have a nice clip at the end where she talks, it therefore must be against her will?


Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I say, "so who knows, really?" or didn't quite grasp what I was trying to say.  But to answer your specific question:

Kids have trouble distinguishing between fiction and reality. It's a skill that develops with age.  You don't take your average four-year-old to see a movie like "Saving Private Ryan" because they aren't going to fully understand that it's just a story.  If a (sufficiently-young) kid watches a scene in which a woman is tied up, gagged, and slapped around, the kid isn't going to understand that it's just a story and the woman in the video is just a fictional character, while the ACTRESS who played the character wasn't actually in pain or danger and might even have been enjoying herself immensely --- unless you specifically TELL the kid that.



And Milgram proved that even if you tell the kid that, he'll still maliciously electrocute the victim in the video, so long as the parents tell them it's ok.

For the record, Saving private ryan wasn't a "story" it was a farking WAR.  The war actually happened, I'm not sure if you know that.  You are displaying signs of a great deal of detachment, which is a sign of mental illness.  Either that or you are an ass, which is another kind of mental illness.  (welcome, fellow sufferer)

My point being, there is very little actual difference between "pretend" violence and actual violence, and no difference what so ever when inside the brain of a human being.  The differentiation isn't "that's not real" it is "that is awful!"

If you watch "violent" porn, you are farked up.  Do you get that?  You are ILL.  The desire to dominate and abuse a fellow human being for pleasure is not a protected "free speech" issue, it's a "you are a farking psychopath"
 
2013-04-01 05:57:00 PM  

namegoeshere: My oldest brother's magazine collection was the stuff of legends in our neighborhood. My mom knew about it, too. But she was wise enough to leave it alone, and to leave his clean laundry on the bed instead of opening drawers.
 
Meh, internet-generation kid problems.


I labeled mine 'porno drawer'. As far as I know, mom never looked in there.

/your mom did laundry?
//lucky bastard
 
2013-04-01 06:12:16 PM  

Beowoolfie: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

Could have been worse, pal. My mom went through my porn stash marking specific pages she thought were wrong.



Was she strict?  Did you have to fight for your right to party?
 
2013-04-01 06:35:00 PM  
"Mommy, would it be funnier if the two girls both had their own cup, so didn't have to share?"
 
2013-04-01 07:01:01 PM  

GiantRex: Yes, oh great and knowledgeable parent person, shelter your son more. That way, he'll be guaranteed to grow up to become a well-adjusted member of society. There will definitely not be any negative repercussions from trying to protect him from things which he does not understand, and there will be zero chance of your little snowflake having sex-related psychological issues in his adult relationships with women.


I'll presume that you're trying to be sarcastic, since your advice would clearly include showing four year olds horror firlms.

Well, actually, allowing eleven year olds to learn about sex and relationships from porn is sheltering them. It's sheltering them from all the nuance, consideration and humanity which they are going to need later if they want to have happy and fulfilling relationships. It's giving them a grotesquely one-sided view of life, and "protecting" him from stuff which he will quite definitely need to understand.
 
2013-04-01 07:07:23 PM  
ciberido: Kids have trouble distinguishing between fiction and reality. It's a skill that develops with age.  You don't take your average four-year-old to see a movie like "Saving Private Ryan" because they aren't going to fully understand that it's just a story.  If a (sufficiently-young) kid watches a scene in which a woman is tied up, gagged, and slapped around, the kid isn't going to understand that it's just a story and the woman in the video is just a fictional character, while the ACTRESS who played the character wasn't actually in pain or danger and might even have been enjoying herself immensely --- unless you specifically TELL the kid that.


Kahabut: And Milgram proved that even if you tell the kid that, he'll still maliciously electrocute the victim in the video, so long as the parents tell them it's ok.

For the record, Saving private ryan wasn't a "story" it was a farking WAR.  The war actually happened, I'm not sure if you know that.  You are displaying signs of a great deal of detachment, which is a sign of mental illness.  Either that or you are an ass, which is another kind of mental illness.  (welcome, fell ...


First of all, sit down, take a deep breath, and try to relax.  You're getting a little verklempt here.

Second, World War II was a war.   Saving Private Ryan" was a movie.

Third, if you scroll up and bit and read the whole conversation, I think you'll find that you're directing your outrage at the wrong person.

Feel free to come back and post again after you've calmed down and taken a fresh gander at the thread.
 
2013-04-01 08:07:35 PM  

JohnTuttle: My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.


Neither do you or the President of the United States, but I suspect you both make good use of them.

Throughout most of history no one had any access to telecommunications. And while it can be important in emergency situations, I agree for day-to-day life it's not strictly necessary in the way air and water are necessary. All the same, I'm going to say increased access to communication is good for the president, you, your 16-year-old, and literally every other person in the world.

Restricting freedom of communication is not something to be undertaken lightly. Be sure you understand the likely outcomes when you choose to remove such a freedom from someone under your control, not just in the short term but also as you release your children from your control, and in the choices they make to restrict the freedoms of others when given the opportunity (such as when they raise children, or otherwise gain power over other people).
 
2013-04-01 08:22:06 PM  

JohnTuttle: My 16 year old doesn't have a phone, and neither does my 12 year old. Neither of them need one.


Here's an honest-to-god real situation that might give you some perspective -- I've recently been assigned by the court to represent a child in foster care. His caretaker does not maintain phone service, or at least does not share her phone number with the court. His apartment building does not have a working door buzzer. This child is not old enough to drive or work. Currently his caretaker is under investigation for possible abuse -- as in, he's already in foster care, and possibly being abused again. Why should this child's caretaker be trusted to determine that this child cannot maintain his own personal communication services?

One of the things long-term abusers do -- be their victim adults or children -- is to isolate their victims socially. I'm not suggesting that you are abusing your children, nor that restricting freedom of communication constitutes abuse in and of itself, but your caviler attitude toward such restrictions makes the work of abusers that much easier. We should all embrace access to communications as a basic human right, only restricting that right when absolutely necessary, and even then making only the minimum necessary restrictions. No one needs a phone, but the whole world is better when people can communicate freely.
 
2013-04-01 08:27:45 PM  

Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."


my thoughts exactly.
 
2013-04-01 09:10:45 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Prank Call of Cthulhu: THX 1138: That final one would've been better if it was Meth.  Now THAT would be an awesome episode of Little House.

Breaking Bad meets Little House! Awesome!

"I used to have a problem with the other kids making fun of me and taking my stuff. There was this one girl, this one piece of shiat, that I will never forget: Nellie. Blonde girl, always running her mouth, stealing stuff from my desk at school. One day at lunch time, I went to fetch my lunch pail, and there's Nellie polishing off the cheese Ma packed for me and humming 'Danny Boy'. And it just rubbed me wrong. So I go home, get Pa's gun, and I come back to school and I kneel her down and I put the gun in her mouth and I told her, "This is it. This is how it ends." And she's crying, going to the bathroom all over herself, swearing to God she's gonna change, screaming - much as you can with a gun in your mouth. And I told her to be quiet, that I needed to think about what I was gonna do here. And of course she got quiet, like a dog waiting for dinner scraps. And we just stood there for a while: me acting like I'm thinking things over, and Princess Olson there kneeling in the dirt with shiat on her dress. After a few minutes I took the gun out of her mouth and I say; "So help me if you ever steal another lunch again I will such and such and such and such and blah blah blah blah blah."  Just trying to do the right thing. But two weeks later she did it again. Of course. She went and ate everybody's lunch at school."

"The moral of the story is; I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. No more half measures. Now come on, Mary, we need to cook."

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2013-04-01 09:18:26 PM  

ciberido: ciberido: Kids have trouble distinguishing between fiction and reality. It's a skill that develops with age.  You don't take your average four-year-old to see a movie like "Saving Private Ryan" because they aren't going to fully understand that it's just a story.  If a (sufficiently-young) kid watches a scene in which a woman is tied up, gagged, and slapped around, the kid isn't going to understand that it's just a story and the woman in the video is just a fictional character, while the ACTRESS who played the character wasn't actually in pain or danger and might even have been enjoying herself immensely --- unless you specifically TELL the kid that.


Kahabut: And Milgram proved that even if you tell the kid that, he'll still maliciously electrocute the victim in the video, so long as the parents tell them it's ok.

For the record, Saving private ryan wasn't a "story" it was a farking WAR.  The war actually happened, I'm not sure if you know that.  You are displaying signs of a great deal of detachment, which is a sign of mental illness.  Either that or you are an ass, which is another kind of mental illness.  (welcome, fell ...

First of all, sit down, take a deep breath, and try to relax.  You're getting a little verklempt here.

Second, World War II was a war.   Saving Private Ryan" was a movie.

Third, if you scroll up and bit and read the whole conversation, I think you'll find that you're directing your outrage at the wrong person.

Feel free to come back and post again after you've calmed down and taken a fresh gander at the thread.



I just wanted to say I clicked 'smart' because you handled that like an adult, and I think that's pretty cool and rare on FARK.
 
2013-04-01 09:49:52 PM  
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2013-04-02 12:08:46 AM  
The argument: we should let everyone have everything at once all the time.

The truth: the best books are the ones that take a slow, thoughtful meander to the finish, so that you develop an emotional connection to the characters and the things that happen to them. Anyone who's read a well-written, complex story knows that it's much more rewarding than reading a simple spoiler paragraph.

Life is more experiential, more complex, more sweet when things unfold gradually.
But the folks reared on the instant gratification will never know. Life will be short, brutal, meaningless, and unimaginative. While they mock people like me who try to suggest it could be different and better.

The journey is the reward, not the end. The end is when it's done.
 
2013-04-02 01:35:36 AM  
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2013-04-02 01:44:01 AM  

namatad: Generation_D: I remember back in the day when my mom threw out all my best porno mags.

I remember ... well both times a GF found my porn and then lost her little mind.
Shocking, but your vagina will NEVER, EVER be enough.


Hahaha, you have never even seen a vag in person. My spouse has seen more trim than a housepainter and I can still send him into asphasia by flashing him the goods.
 
2013-04-02 03:25:40 AM  
That's funny because I was watching Little Shop of Horrors with my 11 year old son yesterday, and it's got several scenes that would qualify as "violent porn" in some people's minds. Well, the content is certainly there, if not the nether-bits.

"When I was young and just a baaad little kid, my momma noticed funny things I did..."
 
2013-04-02 05:38:56 AM  

Rincewind53: staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?

Literally never.


Um. Isn't that the point of Peter Pan and the Lost Boys? But that aside - I used to have anxiety attacks and cry why people asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I don't know why, but it's what happened. The thought just terrified me with doom. I'm 31 now... and while I don't feel doomed... I guess seeing my parents struggle economically made me appreciate not having to work just yet. Hell, my earliest memories are of them trotting me along to their house/buisiness cleaning gigs (self employed) cause they couldn't afford daycare. So... yeah. That's my say. As long as I can remember, I knew being an adult was a struggle. And I feared it. So yes... they do. Sometimes. Now. As an adult, I wouldn't want to be a child again. But that's a different topic.
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2013-04-02 08:26:20 AM  

Fano: namatad: sleeper2995: FTA "We talk about how women in the video he saw are real people, forced into very unpleasant situations - perhaps mums and sisters, certainly daughters"
 She is thinking of pornstars as a daughter! What kind of sick fark is she?!

um
if they were forced into porn, they should go to the police and demand that the rapists be arrested.
 
god I hate these people who ... oh never mind
fark it

It's almost like this article was written from an old script that makes a lot of assumptions. Then again, I usually watch porn involving girls like Lily Thai, who are so enthusiastic they are positively gushing about how thrilled they are to get railed.


/GIS for Lily Thai RIGHT after work
 
2013-04-02 10:02:46 AM  
Was the friend who recommended the video named Kyle Clayton?

/somewhat obscure
 
2013-04-02 06:50:41 PM  

ciberido: css time 2:
When Forest Gump came out in 1994, Gary Sinise was not nearly as well-know as he is now, and the digital effects they used to make him appear legless were brand new. I had people I worked with argue over whether or not he was an amputee. These were college-educated, presumably intelligent adults, and some of them had trouble believing that the actor had fully-functioning legs.


He liked to tell people when you saw him in real life with actual flesh-and-blood legs, they were added in Post.
 
2013-04-02 07:12:51 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I just wanted to say I clicked 'smart' because you handled that like an adult, and I think that's pretty cool and rare on FARK.


Thank you.  I take back all those things I said about your mother.
 
2013-04-02 10:02:36 PM  
I know this because, from that particular day, I noticed my son becoming withdrawn. He seemed sullen and easily upset. I knew something was wrong and asked several times if he was OK. Clearly he wasn't.

"The doctors say the ball gag and frequent enemas might be to blame, but as his Mom, I don't think so since those things have been a part of mylife since age 12 and I'm normal. It has to be the porn."
 
2013-04-03 01:00:54 AM  

minorshan: Rincewind53: staplermofo: Has any kid, ever, said they want to remain a child?

Literally never.

Um. Isn't that the point of Peter Pan and the Lost Boys? But that aside - I used to have anxiety attacks and cry why people asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I don't know why, but it's what happened. The thought just terrified me with doom. I'm 31 now... and while I don't feel doomed... I guess seeing my parents struggle economically made me appreciate not having to work just yet. Hell, my earliest memories are of them trotting me along to their house/buisiness cleaning gigs (self employed) cause they couldn't afford daycare. So... yeah. That's my say. As long as I can remember, I knew being an adult was a struggle. And I feared it. So yes... they do. Sometimes. Now. As an adult, I wouldn't want to be a child again. But that's a different topic.
.

I'm glad someone pointed that out. Especially with using the phrase "literally never," which encouraged literary examples.  Granted, most kids rush headlong into adulthood, and want to give up "baby stuff" as quick as they can. But a fair number of kids like being kids, and are frightened of taking on more adult roles. Why else do we do all the education classes to explain puberty to kids?
 
2013-04-03 01:03:38 AM  

FormlessOne: Fano: FormlessOne: Rincewind53: There is no frickin' way she's not lying about her son telling her "I feel like my childhood is ending."

And we're done. Yet another pearl-clutching article, complete with disingenuous projection.

I made sure to reread the article, subbing in the voices of both the narrator from the Wonder Years and also Stand By Me.

I never saw porn like I did when I was eleven. Christ, does anybody?

Damn you. Now I can't read the article without hearing it in that narrative...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8VTf9E3E-s GULP!
 
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