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(USA Today)   Cut? Fine, but you must be warned. Ordering a cut bagel comes with an additional $ .08 surtax for "altered bagels". Welcome to New York   ( usatoday.com) divider line
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2013-04-01 12:29:36 PM  

rogue_L_chick: I just learned this the other da, when m MIL came back from helping out the Red Cross in NJ. She said she never got a clear answer as to wh this is...I just thought it was so weird. Thanks for reminding me, need to go look that up...


I'm prett sure that officiall it's for "Safet and environmental reasons". Unofficiall it's probabl more along the lines of making sure that there are jobs for people who can't do better in life than to be a pump jocke.
 
2013-04-01 12:31:35 PM  

Radioactive Ass: rogue_L_chick: I just learned this the other da, when m MIL came back from helping out the Red Cross in NJ. She said she never got a clear answer as to wh this is...I just thought it was so weird. Thanks for reminding me, need to go look that up...

I'm prett sure that officiall it's for "Safet and environmental reasons". Unofficiall it's probabl more along the lines of making sure that there are jobs for people who can't do better in life than to be a pump jocke.


Y?
 
2013-04-01 12:35:15 PM  
04-01 filter.
 
2013-04-01 12:36:58 PM  

Radioactive Ass: rogue_L_chick: I just learned this the other da, when m MIL came back from helping out the Red Cross in NJ. She said she never got a clear answer as to wh this is...I just thought it was so weird. Thanks for reminding me, need to go look that up...

I'm prett sure that officiall it's for "Safet and environmental reasons". Unofficiall it's probabl more along the lines of making sure that there are jobs for people who can't do better in life than to be a pump jocke.


In most places we call those 'recycling centers' and we pay people to sort garbage when it reality it would be cheaper and better for the environment to put all the plastic into a landfill.
 
2013-04-01 12:38:07 PM  
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Well, first of all, there's 17¢ new-in-town tax, and there's 45¢ rowboat-under-the-wharf tax, and one dollar leaving-your-junk-lying-around-the-wharf tax, so all together, you owe the Commodore $1.87
 
2013-04-01 12:38:42 PM  
I think the law here in NH is even more ridiculous. Bagels 1-5 are considered a prepared food, ready to eat, and you have to pay a meals tax of 9% on them, but if you buy a 6th bagel, ah, well, you aren't planning to eat all that in one sitting, so the tax disappears.
 
2013-04-01 01:31:03 PM  

Basily Gourt: The no income tax, no sales tax state of New Hampshire pulls stunts like this too.

Prepared foods are taxed at almost 10%. Nice surprise the first time you go out to eat.


Same in California. I thought it was nearly universal. Few states would dare to tax groceries, but if you can afford to eat out, then you can afford to pay sales tax.

But when you try to define "eat out", you wind up differentiating on "prepared" vs "not prepared". And then how do you defined "prepared"? I'm betting everybody here comes up with a pretty similar definition -- if the seller did anything to modify the food between when you select it and when they hand it to you, then they've prepared it.

Where I live, if I buy a bun from the local bakery, and they ask if I want it heated first, I know I'm going to be paying sales tax on it if I say yes. At the coffee shop, it costs me sales tax to tell them I'm going to drink it in the shop, even if they serve it to me in the same paper cup either way.

It gets a little weird sometimes, but can anybody here come up with rules that would be a) fair, b) not weird, c) something bagel shop clerks could be expected to memorize?

Reading the list in the original article, I saw very little that struck me as weird.
 
2013-04-01 01:32:09 PM  
It's a liberal's paradise, that New York.
 
2013-04-01 02:03:00 PM  

Basily Gourt: The no income tax, no sales tax state of New Hampshire pulls stunts like this too.

Prepared foods are taxed at almost 10%. Nice surprise the first time you go out to eat.

15-20% tip + 10% sales tax.

Bon appetit!


Oh no!!! Not a 10% sales tax!!! Why that's unheard of.

You wouldn't survive in the Mid-Atlantic, then.
 
2013-04-01 02:03:35 PM  
California also taxes nuts based on temperature. If your nuts are at room temperature, they are not taxed. If they are heated, they are taxed.
 
2013-04-01 02:33:42 PM  

jimw: California also taxes nuts based on temperature. If your nuts are at room temperature, they are not taxed. If they are heated, they are taxed.


That's why so many Californians wear kilts.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-01 02:53:02 PM  
Even in "tax free New Hampshire" with no income tax and no sales tax there is a meals tax.
 
2013-04-01 02:56:12 PM  
welcome to the rest of the country.
 
2013-04-01 03:26:39 PM  
Here in Australia we have a similarly silly consumption tax with "raw food" exemptions which were put there by a minor party that doesn't even exist in any real way any more. But I get the feeling that if anyone had the guts to get rid of the exemptions our supermarket oligopoly would not take kindly to it.
 
2013-04-01 03:37:18 PM  

seniorgato: If you lose one customer over an $0.08 fee, you will never recoup it.
 
So you better be sure that 1) there are no alternatives around so you have a captive audience or 2) your bagles are so good that nobody will care about $0.08.


Does anyone care about 8 cents anyway?  Aren't you already paying 3$ for a bagel (plain, uncut)?

Or you could just do it the Cali way.  Plain Bagel 2$.  With cream cheese 3$, plus 12% tax, no matter which way you want it.
 
2013-04-01 04:14:35 PM  
How will I put my schmear on it?
 
2013-04-01 04:59:18 PM  

capilot: It gets a little weird sometimes, but can anybody here come up with rules that would be a) fair, b) not weird, c) something bagel shop clerks could be expected to memorize?


"Don't tax food".
 
2013-04-01 05:28:35 PM  
Food and Dairy laws are the Chinatown of regulation. In other words, forget it Jake...
 
2013-04-01 05:39:48 PM  
I know its not Jewish, but I like my bagels uncut.
 
2013-04-01 06:06:22 PM  

MindStalker: I'm gonna call bullshiat. This may be true in some states, but certainly not NY or any I've been in .


LA, CA. No bs, you can probably look it up. I used to buy subway a lot before going to work.
 
2013-04-01 06:41:44 PM  

beta_plus: Hey, if you want the world's best public schools, you illiterate toothless incestuous homophobic wife beating racist, you have to pay for it.
 
Oh, wait ...


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2013-04-01 07:49:22 PM  
Eight farking Cents.

Yeah, I'm outraged because for EIGHT farkING CENTS I'm actually going to cut my own bagel because I am ridiculous.

How about all you rednecks stay out of NYC?  I'm sure that they'll miss you terribly.
 
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