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(CBC)   Canadian warship seizes $100 million worth of heroin in the Indian Ocean. Captain figures they can carry it all back to harbor if they toss out the life jackets and a few cases of empties   (cbc.ca) divider line 55
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2013-03-31 11:15:07 PM
How is that any different than an act of piracy?
 
2013-03-31 11:46:47 PM

relaxitsjustme: How is that any different than an act of piracy?


Papers. If you have a government behind you piracy becomes privateering, which is legal in the country who issues you the papers and any country with a treaty with them.

Read a book.
 
2013-03-31 11:49:26 PM
Hmmm, on the one hand I'm not a fan of the War on DrugsTM but on the other hand this heroin probably was owned by some terrorist/organized crime organization and fark those guys. On the other other hand as a Canadian I'm still a little weirded out by the idea that we still have warships cruising the Indian Ocean because 9/11.
 

relaxitsjustme: How is that any different than an act of piracy?

 
Nobody had to walk a plank?
 
More seriously international law (such as it is) gives interdiction rights in this area.
 
2013-04-01 12:29:33 AM
Cool?
 
Did subby even think about the poor people who need heroin to survive?
 
2013-04-01 01:38:29 AM
I love the cop math in the value of the heroin. They figured out the theoretical price per gram it would get on the US street, like from this site. See #8
 
2013-04-01 02:07:11 AM

doglover: relaxitsjustme: How is that any different than an act of piracy?

Papers. If you have a government behind you piracy becomes privateering, which is legal in the country who issues you the papers and any country with a treaty with them.
Read a book.


You're pretty unclear on the concept of "privateering", in which a private vessel is used to attack shipping. A Canadian Naval vessel can not be a privateer.

Read better books.
 
2013-04-01 02:09:53 AM

Krieghund: A Canadian Naval vessel can not be a privateer.


Canada doesn't own any boats. They rent them from us.
 
2013-04-01 03:12:20 AM
Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.
 
/April Fools starts early I guess.
 
2013-04-01 03:14:15 AM
fta "There's definitely a link between these narcotics and terrorism and by stopping narcotics on the high seas, especially in this quantity, we know that the financial nodes of terrorism are being attacked," said Patchell.

So they made a positive impact, and didn't kill anybody in the process? How Canadian.
 
2013-04-01 03:15:23 AM

Tarkus: I love the cop math in the value of the heroin. They figured out the theoretical price per gram it would get on the US street, like from this site. See #8


I guess the $3 for meth per US gram is for making it yourself

/breaking bad
 
2013-04-01 03:21:45 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.

/April Fools starts early I guess.


Oh, that reminds me. I have to put a rubber band around the sink sprayer before Mrs Bunny wakes up. Because I am a 10-year-old.

img.photobucket.com
 
xcv
2013-04-01 03:23:50 AM

Notabunny: fta "There's definitely a link between these narcotics and terrorism and by stopping narcotics on the high seas, especially in this quantity, we know that the financial nodes of terrorism are being attacked," said Patchell.

So they made a positive impact, and didn't kill anybody in the process? How Canadian.


Didn't the Afghan Taliban manage to stop heroin production all on their own in the 90s without the need for any warships?
 
2013-04-01 03:26:39 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.
 
/April Fools starts early I guess.


Canadian Navy dot Gov
 
2013-04-01 03:27:14 AM

xcv: Notabunny: fta "There's definitely a link between these narcotics and terrorism and by stopping narcotics on the high seas, especially in this quantity, we know that the financial nodes of terrorism are being attacked," said Patchell.

So they made a positive impact, and didn't kill anybody in the process? How Canadian.

Didn't the Afghan Taliban manage to stop heroin production all on their own in the 90s without the need for any warships?


All but entirely. Unfortunately that angered the CIA so that regime's days were numbered.
 
2013-04-01 03:29:30 AM
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/obscure?
 
2013-04-01 03:42:33 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.
 
/April Fools starts early I guess.


Next story will be about the clitoris being a real thing.
 
2013-04-01 03:47:48 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.
 
/April Fools starts early I guess.


Obligatory.
 
2013-04-01 03:48:31 AM
Canada has a navy?  How the fark did that happen?
 
/sarcasm
 
2013-04-01 03:53:09 AM

theotherles: Canada has a navy?  How the fark did that happen?
 
/sarcasm


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2013-04-01 04:10:12 AM
They destroyed all the heroin on the boat. Yeah friggen right.
 
2013-04-01 04:10:46 AM
i like the automatic terrorism tie-in. as if good old fashioned hard working entrepreneurs don't exist these days.
 
2013-04-01 04:19:27 AM

earthworm2.0: They destroyed all the heroin on the boat. Yeah friggen right.


It's possible, but be careful.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgwvuLg7jOU&feature=g-hist
 
2013-04-01 04:38:30 AM
Never tried diacetylmorphine. Any farkers wanna tell me what it feels like?
 
/also, Canada has a blue-water navy?
 
2013-04-01 04:39:18 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.

 
/April Fools starts early I guess.
 
Next story will be about the clitoris being a real thing.
 
I have it on good authority that there are plenty of Canadian men in boats.
 
2013-04-01 05:18:43 AM
They probably apologized too.
 
2013-04-01 05:19:02 AM

miss diminutive: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: SN1987a goes boom: Haha, subby.  Canadian warships...like anyone would fall for that.
 
/April Fools starts early I guess.
 
Next story will be about the clitoris being a real thing.
 
I have it on good authority that there are plenty of Canadian men in boats.

 
------
 
Are they little?
 
2013-04-01 05:24:16 AM

Tarkus: I love the cop math in the value of the heroin. They figured out the theoretical price per gram it would get on the US street, like from this site. See #8


I shall send my vacation pics from Kenya. Thanks.
 
2013-04-01 05:26:44 AM
Meanwhile, the drug gangs it doesn't belong to celebrate their increase in market share and profits.
 
2013-04-01 05:30:10 AM

Maus III: Never tried diacetylmorphine. Any farkers wanna tell me what it feels like?
 
/also, Canada has a blue-water navy?


Ever eat a painkiller? It is like that at lower doses (though it is stronger than most painkillers) but if you do the magic amount you'll feel like nothing but a head and you'll drift in and out of bliss. Also, sleep. You'll drift in and out of sleep and if you take too much you sleep too much and you die. It's pretty good stuff.

I prefer fentanyl. What? I like my drugs clean.
 
2013-04-01 06:12:50 AM
$2 hundred million is a lot of looney's.
 
2013-04-01 06:18:09 AM

UnspokenVoice: Maus III: Never tried diacetylmorphine. Any farkers wanna tell me what it feels like?
 
/also, Canada has a blue-water navy?

Ever eat a painkiller? It is like that at lower doses (though it is stronger than most painkillers) but if you do the magic amount you'll feel like nothing but a head and you'll drift in and out of bliss. Also, sleep. You'll drift in and out of sleep and if you take too much you sleep too much and you die. It's pretty good stuff.

I prefer fentanyl. What? I like my drugs clean.


Oot and aboot in boots?
 
2013-04-01 06:27:26 AM
img442.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-01 06:28:11 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Oot and aboot in boots?


I'm going to answer, "Yes."
 
2013-04-01 06:33:49 AM
a small sample has been kept for future investigations.
 
Yes...investigations.
 
2013-04-01 06:34:05 AM
They're probably out more like $5m.... and if they're making $5m shipments, chances are they can afford to lose one.
 
2013-04-01 06:48:14 AM
Believe or not, Canada did have the third largest navy in the world at the end of WW II.
 
2013-04-01 07:24:45 AM
Did the friggin Exxon Valdez even have a tenth of a billion dollars worth of merchandise on it?
 
You'd think the shippers would involve a few more boats in moving that kind of money.
 
2013-04-01 08:24:28 AM

steveGswine: Did the friggin Exxon Valdez even have a tenth of a billion dollars worth of merchandise on it?
 
You'd think the shippers would involve a few more boats in moving that kind of money.


Estimates range from 250,000 barrels (Exxon) to 750,000 barrels (Environmentalists), the average price per barrel for crude oil in 1989 was $18.30, splitting the difference between the greedy whores and the greenie kooks, 500,000 x $18.30 = $9,150,000, or 1% of a billion.
 
2013-04-01 08:55:54 AM
I bet the price of heroin on the street will rise at least 1 to 2 percent after this massive blow to the trafficking network.
 
When exactly will we decide when we've "won" the War on Drugs, anyway?
 
2013-04-01 09:02:09 AM
Woodhouse is going to get itchy tonight.
 
2013-04-01 09:02:43 AM
i280.photobucket.com
 
Canadian incarceration
 
2013-04-01 09:04:55 AM

awalkingecho: xcv: Notabunny: fta "There's definitely a link between these narcotics and terrorism and by stopping narcotics on the high seas, especially in this quantity, we know that the financial nodes of terrorism are being attacked," said Patchell.

So they made a positive impact, and didn't kill anybody in the process? How Canadian.

Didn't the Afghan Taliban manage to stop heroin production all on their own in the 90s without the need for any warships?

All but entirely. Unfortunately that angered the CIA so that regime's days were numbered.


ft2010a "These days you hear multiple reports of Taliban commanders running their own drug labs, running processing centers that process the raw opium into morphine base, into heroin and in fact exporting those shipments and profiting at much higher levels than they were before," she says. "That would indicate that the Taliban is turning something much more along the lines of a drug cartel than a political movement."

ft2012a Afghanistan produces 90 percent of the world's illicit opium, bringing billions of dollars a year into the country's economy, fueling the global heroin trade, funding both the Taliban and government-linked warlords, (...) Today the Taliban makes money from taxing the drug trade, as well as taxing a lot of other activities or production in any areas where they have strong influence,
 
2013-04-01 09:45:06 AM
Congrats to the Canuck VBSS team for reeling in a big fish.  The drug laws in that stretch of the world are of the Wu-Tang variety, so the folks willing to smuggle heroin are prone to do crazy things when captured.  One fishing boat captain, when caught with nets filled with a massive heroin stash, torched the vessel with his whole crew and a boarding team onboard, in open water far from shore.  He was pretty keen to miss out on the death penalty awaiting back on land.
 
2013-04-01 11:06:25 AM

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: Believe or not, Canada did have the third largest navy in the world at the end of WW II.

 
Third largest, or third largest allied?
 
Because I suspect Japan still had more than 500 ships at the time of their surrender, and the Russians might have been able to cobble that many together, and more capital ships -- although mostly antiquated.
 
(Basically, Canada could probably beat Russia in a naval war in late 1945, even though Russia had a nominally larger force)
 
What boggles my mind is that the US had 99 aircraft carriers in 1945. if you only count their carriers, that's still probably the 5th or 6th largest navy in terms of ship count. Carriers alone, that's probably 3rd in tonnage.
 
2013-04-01 12:11:34 PM

Notabunny: awalkingecho: xcv: Notabunny: fta "There's definitely a link between these narcotics and terrorism and by stopping narcotics on the high seas, especially in this quantity, we know that the financial nodes of terrorism are being attacked," said Patchell.

So they made a positive impact, and didn't kill anybody in the process? How Canadian.

Didn't the Afghan Taliban manage to stop heroin production all on their own in the 90s without the need for any warships?

All but entirely. Unfortunately that angered the CIA so that regime's days were numbered.

ft2010a "These days you hear multiple reports of Taliban commanders running their own drug labs, running processing centers that process the raw opium into morphine base, into heroin and in fact exporting those shipments and profiting at much higher levels than they were before," she says. "That would indicate that the Taliban is turning something much more along the lines of a drug cartel than a political movement."

ft2012a Afghanistan produces 90 percent of the world's illicit opium, bringing billions of dollars a year into the country's economy, fueling the global heroin trade, funding both the Taliban and government-linked warlords, (...) Today the Taliban makes money from taxing the drug trade, as well as taxing a lot of other activities or production in any areas where they have strong influence,


12,000 tons of processed opium
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/15/afghanistan.opium.tr ad e/

Jeepers, people ... it's why we're in Afghanistan. Drug Money.
 
2013-04-01 01:00:52 PM
So Canada is calling their laundry ships as war ships now?

whoa dude thats like pretty out there you know.

/did anyone ever catch those Israeli pirates that murdered several people who were on a humanitarian mission?

//In other news: Prime Minister of Canada disappears for a few months on a special liquid diet.
 
2013-04-01 01:48:26 PM

theotherles: Canada has a navy?  How the fark did that happen?
 
/sarcasm


My thoughts exactly. I really wonder why they bother spending the money on it though. Even with all the ribbing canadians and murkins give each other, i always thought it was common knowledge across the planet that any attack on canada would bring about the full arsnel of american firepower in retaliation.
 
2013-04-01 03:40:43 PM

This text is now purple: TheVeryDeadIanMartin: Believe or not, Canada did have the third largest navy in the world at the end of WW II.
 
Third largest, or third largest allied?
 
Because I suspect Japan still had more than 500 ships at the time of their surrender, and the Russians might have been able to cobble that many together, and more capital ships -- although mostly antiquated.
 
(Basically, Canada could probably beat Russia in a naval war in late 1945, even though Russia had a nominally larger force)
 
What boggles my mind is that the US had 99 aircraft carriers in 1945. if you only count their carriers, that's still probably the 5th or 6th largest navy in terms of ship count. Carriers alone, that's probably 3rd in tonnage.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_World _W ar_II

By war's end, over 1 million citizens would serve in military uniform, and Canada would possess the fourth-largest air force and third-largest naval surface fleet in the world.

/In the Canadian Navy so getting a kick
//Contract done in November, can't wait
 
2013-04-01 03:55:20 PM

Gentoolive: theotherles: Canada has a navy?  How the fark did that happen?
 
/sarcasm

My thoughts exactly. I really wonder why they bother spending the money on it though. Even with all the ribbing canadians and murkins give each other, i always thought it was common knowledge across the planet that any attack on canada would bring about the full arsnel of american firepower in retaliation.



Well, we have to keep our American bodyguards happy. I'm going to guess that a sizeable percentage of Canadian military spending* finds its way to American military contractors. Just look at the F-35 fiasco: Harper was more than willing to spend untold billions on the planes, even though no one could guarantee what they could do, how many we actually needed, or what the final costs would be. This isn't to say I don't think we need to 'pull our weight' when it comes to military spending in exchange for USA-firepower backing, but that's the best example of a 'blank cheque' that almost went through (and still might, in some form).

/*Well, stuff that's contractable, like weapons systems, non-Bombardier equipment, etc... (as opposed to food/shelter)
 
2013-04-01 06:09:18 PM
Might makes right is now the law on open seas.

/What is the legal justification for this piracy?
 
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