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2013-03-31 09:09:32 PM
8 votes:

kxs401: As awful as the injury looks, he'll probably recover fully. In the long run, it's much better to break a bone that to tear cartilage or a tendon.


Um, no.  No, no, NO.  You're thinking of broken bones where the skin keeps everything covered.  This was a compound fracture.  With prompt medical attention (check), competent care (check I guess) and a little luck (?), he'll make a full recovery.  But if the luck element is missing or there's a goof during surgery or prep, he could lose the leg to infection.  The interior of bone is nice spongy blood factory.  It's not something you ever want exposed to air.

He'll probably recover fully?  Likely in this day and age, and the hospital's likely to take every precaution with such a high-profile injury.  But no no no no NO, this is one case where you'd gladly take torn cartilage AND a torn tendon.  Hell, throw in a couple blown-out ligaments while you're at it.
2013-03-31 09:36:57 PM
5 votes:

MichiganFTL: What makes people so squeamish about this but will be watching walking dead in 8 minutes while eating chocolates covered cherries?


People can watch fiction and know it's fiction.  They can watch zombies getting splattered and know it's not real.  It's not blood, it's just corn syrup and red dye.  That actor wasn't really hurt.  That severed head is just some molded silicone and latex.

They see that injury however, they know that's no special effect.  That's not Hollywood, that's a young man in the most pain of his life, pain most humans will never endure, and almost certainly the end of any sports career.

What it means is that for all our violence and gore in movies and TV, we know fiction from reality, and when it's real and we know it's real, we still give a damn.
2013-03-31 08:55:42 PM
5 votes:
Kevin Ware. There, it has been said. It was Kevin Ware that was injured in this game, not Joe Theismann. Joe Theissman has healed. If any non-sports people are reading this, it is Kevin Ware who was injured and would appreciate your healing thoughts and prayers.
2013-03-31 08:51:47 PM
4 votes:
I heard about the injury and came to the internets to see the video of it.  After seeing descriptions and reactions to it I decided not to watch.
2013-03-31 08:43:18 PM
4 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough

Theismann, possibly even a wee bit beyond (seeing as in general one just wears shorts in basketball, versus pants in football).

Seriously just hope the kid comes out OK in the end...


Didn't see the game, or the injury...  but I know that the hospital where he was taken (Methodist Hospital in Indy) is the one that puts Indy 500 drivers back together after they hit the wall.

I think they keep miracles in stock there.
2013-03-31 08:34:58 PM
4 votes:

hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough


It was about 1.22 Theismanns
2013-04-01 09:47:28 AM
3 votes:
The correct formula is:

Sid Vicious
----------------- x 1.8
Joe Theismann

The Malarchuk is on a totally different scale, like Monica Seles getting stabbed.
2013-03-31 11:41:13 PM
3 votes:
I didn't read every post, but just to clean up the terminology from the first 50 or so....

"Compound Fracture" means multiple breaks in a bone. It does not mean the bone protrudes through the skin.

"Open Fracture" means the bone is sticking out of the skin.

It so happens this was both, but folks above are using "compound" to describe the wrong part of the injury.

Oh, and 1.5 on the Theismann scale but 0.5 Malarchuks as it's not nearly as immediately life-threatening as a sliced jugular.
2013-03-31 11:32:20 PM
3 votes:
2013-03-31 09:08:23 PM
3 votes:

kxs401: phantomerick: Looks and sounds like a bone malformation or a disease of some kind. Not enough to snap a healthy leg bone. Did he have tattoos ? Paging Dr. House...

I've heard speculation that he might have had a stress fracture already.


When I first saw it, I wondered how a guy who spends much of his life leaping through the air could have had such a huge break occur on a fairly routine landing.  There must have been something preexisting.
2013-03-31 08:50:30 PM
3 votes:
If the internet has taught me one thing, it's to not look at stuff that people tell me not to look at. Ogrish broke me of that habit.

So I'm going to hope the kid ends up okay and be happy to keep this particular video from rattling around in my brain for the rest of my life.
2013-03-31 08:45:29 PM
3 votes:

hershy799: On a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?


0.91 Malarchuks
2013-03-31 08:43:24 PM
3 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


I caved, and clicked. What has been seen cannot be unseen.
2013-03-31 08:39:28 PM
3 votes:

Principal Clarinet: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

Theismann


IT'S OVER 9 THEISMANNS!
2013-03-31 07:41:25 PM
3 votes:
Great game. Scariest basketball injury ever.
2013-04-01 06:50:09 PM
2 votes:

dragonchild: If his carotid artery was severed he'd have been out in seconds and dead in minutes. It was his jugular.


Uh, yeah, it was his carotid artery. He was a blood fountain timed in rhythm with his heart.
2013-04-01 09:00:55 AM
2 votes:
"The bone's 6 inches out of his leg and all he's yelling is, 'Win the game, win the game,'" Pitino said after the game. "I've not seen that in my life. ... Pretty special young man." Link

i36.photobucket.com
2013-04-01 02:53:20 AM
2 votes:
www.spidersparlor.com
2013-04-01 01:28:52 AM
2 votes:
Best view. Up close, HD and scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
2013-04-01 01:10:38 AM
2 votes:

skylabdown: farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.

That bench reaction is all anyone needs to see.


I watched the animated .gif of the injury, then watched the bench reaction, and was going to post the same thing. Then...
 

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Jesus Christ. Why did I look at that? That poor farking kid.
2013-03-31 11:38:32 PM
2 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Okay puke is coming out
2013-03-31 10:22:24 PM
2 votes:
Holy crap that was nasty.
2013-03-31 10:13:33 PM
2 votes:
Your playing days are over, my friend. But, you can always fall back on your degree in...
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
2013-03-31 09:34:39 PM
2 votes:
A great victory for HD, that was
2013-03-31 09:33:18 PM
2 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: pivazena: MaliFinn: ontariolightning: Sidney Crosbys broken jaw is a bigger injury to a sport then this is. Max Talbot also got stepped on by a skate on his achilles. That is gruesome too. Basketball? Big flipping whoop.

Well, if you want to be that way, how about Zednik getting his throat slashed by a skate?

AGH!  now I'm DEFINITELY never going ice skating

Yes, I passed up a few chances to skate on the ice at Rockefeller Park.  I was about to get my skates on when I looked out and saw a guy land facefirst on the ice.  His skates slashed through the air, narrowly missing some woman who was sliding by.  The blades were probably an inch or two from her face.  Then I noticed that there were numerous other people doing not so well staying upright.

I turned my skates back in and went to get something to eat instead.




NSFW
/the Buick commercial in the middle of that honestly is almost so wrong it's funny
//almost, it's still pretty f--king awful
2013-03-31 09:31:32 PM
2 votes:

kxs401: As awful as the injury looks, he'll probably recover fully. In the long run, it's much better to break a bone that to tear cartilage or a tendon.


Not really- that kind of injury can damage nerves, and blood loss can kill tissue.  Not to mention the high likeliness of infection.  There's a reason that athletes almost never come back from that kind of injury- but they come back from ligament and tendon tears with regularity.
2013-03-31 09:18:18 PM
2 votes:
I was at the game, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

We were high up and nobody in our section could figure out what happened.  Everyone was watching the ball go toward the basket, then we thought there might have been a bad collision under the basket since Louisville players were just laying on the floor.  I couldn't figure out why they didn't have medics on the floor for the guys laying down, then we noticed they were all over on the sideline.  They cut the video feed entirely.  We had to get info from the NCAA watch live app to find out what was going on.  Glad I missed it.
2013-03-31 09:14:03 PM
2 votes:

MichiganFTL: ontariolightning: I watched it a dozen times while eating dinner

same, just broke a chicken wing in half as I watched. What makes people so squeamish about this but will be watching walking dead in 8 minutes while eating chocolates covered cherries?


The ability to tell reality from fantasy?
2013-03-31 09:12:59 PM
2 votes:

phantomerick: Looks and sounds like a bone malformation or a disease of some kind. Not enough to snap a healthy leg bone.


kxs401: I've heard speculation that he might have had a stress fracture already.


Yeah, that was me, so I should be honest and say I have no formal medical training, so I could get smacked down by an M.D. here.  But otherwise, I really don't think bone should just snap like that on a landing, which led to the "maybe his leg was already damaged" hypothesis.
2013-03-31 09:08:48 PM
2 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Yikes, that was brutal.  The entire Louisville bench cowered in fear.


Yep.

NSFW
2013-03-31 09:05:25 PM
2 votes:

steveGswine: Didn't see the game, or the injury...  but I know that the hospital where he was taken (Methodist Hospital in Indy) is the one that puts Indy 500 drivers back together after they hit the wall.

I think they keep miracles in stock there.


Wow, that's awesome.  Considering the quality of their triage I wouldn't be surprised if he plays ball again.
2013-03-31 09:04:44 PM
2 votes:
Subby, you are a horrible, horrible person.  +1.

Prior to this, the worst injury I'd seen when it happened was McGahee at the Fiesta Bowl, and that was cringe worthy.  Nothing will take that cringe away, but this was worse, plain and simple.

hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?


Based on the Theismann video, I'd say that Theismann's injury was a 7/8 of a Ware.
2013-03-31 09:04:18 PM
2 votes:

JustSurfin: Reports are that he'll be out for a year, at least. If he's lucky, he'll play again as a senior.


after that mess, the NCAA might give him 5 extra years of eligibility. The Theismann of our generation. I hope to see him back playing ball.
2013-03-31 09:04:13 PM
2 votes:

kxs401: As awful as the injury looks, he'll probably recover fully. In the long run, it's much better to break a bone that to tear cartilage or a tendon.


Pitino said after the game it's the same injury Michael Bush had.

Considering Michael Bush is now playing running back in the NFL that bodes well for his recovery.
2013-03-31 09:02:40 PM
2 votes:

MichiganFTL: ontariolightning: I watched it a dozen times while eating dinner

same, just broke a chicken wing in half as I watched. What makes people so squeamish about this but will be watching walking dead in 8 minutes while eating chocolates covered cherries?


Walking dead is fake?

This is real.
2013-03-31 09:02:37 PM
2 votes:
hershy799: It's quite possible that additional camera angles will require the scale to be re-calibrated with Ware being the new high score, but I'm seriously (this time) not going to watch those.

http://gifboom.com/x/a79ab88a for alternate camera angle. VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT.

His leg is kinda like WACKY WAVING INFLATABLE ARM-FLAILING TUBE MAN here.
2013-03-31 09:01:53 PM
2 votes:
Reports are that he'll be out for a year, at least. If he's lucky, he'll play again as a senior.
2013-03-31 08:57:14 PM
2 votes:
My brother was watching the game, and all of the sudden I heard him gasp and then start moaning, like he was in pain. I came running because I thought he'd hurt himself, and he replayed the injury for me. It was gruesome.
2013-03-31 08:56:28 PM
2 votes:
Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.
2013-03-31 08:50:35 PM
2 votes:

shoegaze99: legion_of_doo: Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.

This is one of those things where I'm curious just so I know what people are talking about, but can't bring myself to watch it because that sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me.


I'm not sure you need a video to know that the kid broke his lower leg in half

I saw the replay from the camera at the other end of the floor. I kept it in small low definition video and shut it off the instant I saw it.
2013-03-31 08:48:23 PM
2 votes:

ArtosRC: Saw the video on Youtube. Between this and Lattimore's gruesome injury, it's a toss-up.

I mean, it's horrific. Louisville better honor that scholarship.


They will.

In a way he's lucky the injury was so graphic and public. They can't afford to bring national attention to the regular exploitation of college athletes, and a high profile case like this would motivate legislatures to address the issue.
2013-03-31 08:47:23 PM
2 votes:
Apparently Joe Theismann has already issued a comment on it:  http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/2040749
2013-03-31 08:45:13 PM
2 votes:

Cincinnati Kid: The one angle where you could see the bone sticking out convinced me I didn't need to see it again.


I'm pretty sure they didn't initially realize you could see that and hence the replays but once they saw that, that was the end of it.
2013-03-31 08:45:07 PM
2 votes:
Saw the video on Youtube. Between this and Lattimore's gruesome injury, it's a toss-up.

I mean, it's horrific. Louisville better honor that scholarship.
2013-03-31 08:44:15 PM
2 votes:
I'd say this was 9/Theismans

That's because this guy didn't have a pile of players on top of him while his broken bones were sticking out of his skin and splinters of bone were grinding around among the torn flesh and muscle.
2013-03-31 08:42:35 PM
2 votes:

Principal Clarinet: Scariest basketball injury ever.


It's not like it's the first time this has happened in NCAA basketball. It happened at a game I was at, and I imagine it's happened many other times. But yes, any time a bone is sticking out through a player's skin it's pretty scary.
2013-03-31 08:41:35 PM
2 votes:
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.
2013-03-31 08:38:20 PM
2 votes:
I'm not going to watch the footage, seeing a still picture was enough for me.
2013-03-31 08:37:33 PM
2 votes:

hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough


They dumped the feed when the injury happened. That's how bad it was.

One minute play going on...next minute all the Louisville players were on the floor crying
2013-04-01 06:58:20 PM
1 votes:

puffy999: dragonchild: If his carotid artery was severed he'd have been out in seconds and dead in minutes. It was his jugular.

Uh, yeah, it was his carotid artery. He was a blood fountain timed in rhythm with his heart.


Yeah, no report appears to dispute that it was his carotid artery, but they do, however, conflict over the detail of whether it was the internal or external artery.
2013-04-01 06:55:20 PM
1 votes:

puffy999: KiwDaWabbit: To me, Ware's injury rates near the top of the "horrific" scale. Of course, just by the nature of the injury, there were/are risks that could ultimately jeopardize his life as well, but, in relative terms, it didn't carry the same risks as the Knox or Malarchuk injuries.

It's actually tougher to keep Ware's injury from becoming infected, thus he has a worse long-term prognosis.

Obviously if what happened to Malarchuk happened, say, on some pond in the middle of nowhere in Ottawa to some kid, he'd probably be dead. And, really, without immediate treatment Malarchuk may have been, as well.

Seriously, the still picture linked above shows just how bad that break was. That's a significant area of exposed bone marrow, nearly half of his leg, and that should be everyone's greatest worry beyond his playing career and the like.


I understood the infection risk, but, yeah, I was talking more in terms of the immediate.

They're all bad injuries, but if you had to choose from a severed artery, being bent in half, or a compound fracture of the leg, which would you take your chances on?
2013-04-01 06:41:04 PM
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: To me, Ware's injury rates near the top of the "horrific" scale. Of course, just by the nature of the injury, there were/are risks that could ultimately jeopardize his life as well, but, in relative terms, it didn't carry the same risks as the Knox or Malarchuk injuries.


It's actually tougher to keep Ware's injury from becoming infected, thus he has a worse long-term prognosis.

Obviously if what happened to Malarchuk happened, say, on some pond in the middle of nowhere in Ottawa to some kid, he'd probably be dead. And, really, without immediate treatment Malarchuk may have been, as well.

Seriously, the still picture linked above shows just how bad that break was. That's a significant area of exposed bone marrow, nearly half of his leg, and that should be everyone's greatest worry beyond his playing career and the like.
2013-04-01 05:19:33 PM
1 votes:

ds_4815: hershy799: On a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

0.91 Malarchuks


According to Wikipedia, "11 fans fainted, 2 more suffered heart attacks and 3 players vomited on the ice."  in response to Malachuk getting his carotid artery severed.

/Saw the Ware injury by accident on Yahoo - Damn.
2013-04-01 03:30:54 PM
1 votes:
How bad on the Sid scale? (NSFW)
2013-04-01 03:05:59 PM
1 votes:
I suggest that we make a distinction between horrific and life-threatening. Maybe someone can do a graph, maybe add some more elements.

To me, Ware's injury rates near the top of the "horrific" scale. Of course, just by the nature of the injury, there were/are risks that could ultimately jeopardize his life as well, but, in relative terms, it didn't carry the same risks as the Knox or Malarchuk injuries.
2013-04-01 01:35:40 PM
1 votes:
I have a friend that played professional basketball in Europe for a while, and he immediately posted on twitter that he had personally seen the same injury happen to another player on the court. Maybe it's more common that we would think because not all games end up nationally televised.

My dad had a scar on his right arm from where his bone broke not only through the skin but also through his long-sleeve sweater. He was about 10 or so, said he remembered grabbing it and essentially trying to put the bone back in. There's an element of shock that takes over, so it's not surprising that Ware kept saying "Win the game!" instead of screaming in pain.

/Gross Story Sis
2013-04-01 12:22:06 PM
1 votes:
Wow, that truly is sad. I hope he gets a boatload of good fortune going forward to balance such an awful event out.

Forget Malarchuk, the true scale should be 1.0 Knox.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15-yQO01Uwc
2013-04-01 10:28:24 AM
1 votes:

CJHardin: Joe Peanut: Oh, snap! (Not Safe For The Squeamish)

I was going to post the image, but don't want to get banned.
 
I was at that fight due to being stationed at Ft Bragg.  I was absent when the injury occured because I was getting a beer and there was a good 25 minute delay.  We thought Corey was being a punk and holding back since it was a free show for the troops.  When they showed it on the big screens and explained it to us, the whole damn place recoiled.


That was the one where Corey's leg went all Plastic Man, right? That show had sooooooo many folks getting hurt- how ironic they ran a show to benefit the troops where the locker room looked like a MASH unit afterwards.
2013-04-01 10:01:54 AM
1 votes:

jbull217: The correct formula is:

Sid Vicious
----------------- x 1.8
Joe Theismann

The Malarchuk is on a totally different scale, like Monica Seles getting stabbed.


1.0 Malarchuk = THAT incident.  Everything else just pales in comparsion.
2013-04-01 09:57:35 AM
1 votes:
How does this compare to Sid Vicious jumping of the ropes in the death throes of WCW.

/yes wrestling is fake
//injury scary as shiat, especially watching as a 12 year old
2013-04-01 09:51:12 AM
1 votes:

seadoo2006: I think the guys in the bench say it all ... good god ... O_o

[i47.tinypic.com image 331x104]


Friend of mine said the UL bench all fell out like they were Pentecostals.
2013-04-01 09:39:28 AM
1 votes:
I initially chose to not watch the links, but my local news insisted in giving four replays of it, so I caught it, if buy from the corner of my eye the first time.
 
It was terrible and gruesome, but not as shocking as I initially expected. Both injuries were, no doubt, terrible, but to my eye, Theisman's  looked worse. Not worse medically necessarily, but from a viewer perspective. Maybe the camera angle or something, but watching Theisman's on TV, you could almost feel it. This one, I was like "Ohhh, nasty!" but I didn't cringe as much.
 
Perhaps I've become desensitized as I was a kid when Theisman's happened and now I've got 20+ years of the internet behind me...
2013-04-01 09:17:44 AM
1 votes:

Girion47: Bendal: legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?
 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either

 
Not bullshiat, I was watching as well and I thought something had happened to the Duke player's eye the way he was grimacing and covering his face, then they showed the three guys on the floor and i was really confused.   There was a jump in the feed.
 
They changed camera angles so not to show Ware's leg flopping around or his bench's reaction, but that was it. There wasn't any stoppage of live camera action, they just switched to a different view.
2013-04-01 08:45:53 AM
1 votes:

ISO15693: Just so you know, you are incorrect.
 
Compound Fracture
n.
A fracture in which broken bone fragments lacerate soft tissue and protrude through an open wound in the skin.
 
It has nothing to do with multiple of anything.


FWIW, we have moved away from  the word "compound" in the medical world.  A fracture is described as open or closed, and then other big words we can charge a lot for are used to describe the damage to the bone.
2013-04-01 08:44:12 AM
1 votes:

Bendal: legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?
 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either


Not bullshiat, I was watching as well and I thought something had happened to the Duke player's eye the way he was grimacing and covering his face, then they showed the three guys on the floor and i was really confused.   There was a jump in the feed.
2013-04-01 08:18:44 AM
1 votes:
Even though I didn't see it live, just the fact that it happened may explain why I threw up in my mouth this morning.
2013-04-01 08:14:26 AM
1 votes:
As bad as the Theismann injury was, I think the scale should be renamed "The McCallum Scale".  I just hope Tosh knows better than to highlight Ware's injury on his show.
2013-04-01 06:55:59 AM
1 votes:

legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either
2013-04-01 06:38:36 AM
1 votes:
The only injury I can recall that was worse, was in skiing, when Austrian Matthias Lanzinger broke his left leg in a downhill race. Yes it's on Youtube. If you search on his name should be the third video "Lanzinger breaks his leg"
2013-04-01 05:00:51 AM
1 votes:
Oh God, it's like shoving a chopstick through a sausage lengthwise, then snapping it all in half.
2013-04-01 03:42:55 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.


That's a good "nope" gif
2013-04-01 03:34:02 AM
1 votes:
Meh. After 10+ years of war being on TV and Internet every day and night, the IED explosions, the hostage butcherings, the EFP bombs, helmet-cam snipers...all that stuff; seeing a guy snap his leg in half unexpectedly really wasn't that shocking.

I may have become a little desensitized.
2013-04-01 03:29:04 AM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


I threw up a bit in my mouth
2013-04-01 02:41:55 AM
1 votes:

mxstone: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL
 
OK: How can there NOT be blood gushing out of that wound? I've crashed a MX Motorcycle and gashed my leg on the footpeg in the same area as this wound but obviously a much smaller cut and it bled like a stuck pig. Is it just timing and moments after this pic the blood started?


That part of the leg doesn't have many veins or arteries. Now if it went the opposite way, he would have been bleeding like a stuck pig.
2013-04-01 02:23:20 AM
1 votes:
Based on the reactions I'm reading in this thread, between this and the puck-to-Crosby's jaw (that I've seen a couple of times and have to turn away from *that*) I might have to just avoid ESPN and the like for the next few days. I don't want to catch video of the injury out of the corner of my eye or something.
2013-04-01 01:51:21 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


That has to be shopped.  No farking way.
2013-04-01 01:38:56 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


i1182.photobucket.com
2013-04-01 01:37:10 AM
1 votes:

GandalfTheWhite: Best view. Up close, HD and scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0


Hello time traveler. How does it feel to jump forward a few years? Do you get nauseated when you make the jump?
2013-04-01 01:35:18 AM
1 votes:

FacelessDevil30: Subby, you are a horrible, horrible person.  +1.

 
Prior to this, the worst injury I'd seen when it happened was McGahee at the Fiesta Bowl, and that was cringe worthy.  Nothing will take that cringe away, but this was worse, plain and simple.
 
hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?
 
Based on the Theismann video, I'd say that Theismann's injury was a 7/8 of a Ware.
 
worst one I've seen as it happened was E.J Henderson breaking his femur
 
/this one is 9.7 cringes
2013-04-01 01:34:25 AM
1 votes:
I've seen an injury like that happen mere feet away from me and I ended up doing the first aid until the ambulance got there.  It's a horrific, terrible thing to see, and I don't blame the player/bench reaction one bit.
 
It was about 1.21 Theismann, and .86 Malarchuk.
 
I have a pretty tough stomach when it comes to that stuff, but I'd not recommend anyone watch the replay.
2013-04-01 01:22:51 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Oh fark, why the bloody HELL did I have to look? I need almost as much medicine as he does just to wash that out of my damn head.
2013-04-01 01:09:23 AM
1 votes:
I was driving to my Mom's house for Easter and she was like "Some poor kid got hurt in the Louisville game. They say its worse than Theisman." I was like "typical sportscaster melodrama bullshiat." so I looked it up online and was like " OH MAH GOD, MAH GOD KING, THE BOY'S LEG IS BROKE IN HALF, THE DAMN THING BROKE IN HALF" in Jim Ross's voice.
2013-04-01 12:58:17 AM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL

...sweet mother of Fark, that goes way the hell past Theismann, past Barbaro, and into "Please tell me someone shopped that from Ogrish.com or the like because Jesus gawddamn ballbearing baby Christ I didn't know someone's limb could DO that outside of a Nightmare on Elm Street sequel".  Not quite Malarchuk level (less life threatening, apparently it missed arteries) but....gah, what can be seen cannot be unseen INDEED.
 
I'm upgrading this to THREE Theismanns.  We definitely have a new ANSI standard for Nightmarish Leg Injuries Occurring In Sports. O_o
 
/and now I'm going to pretty much just sit here with bourbon and kittens and hope this acts as mindbleach
//gonna need a looooooooot of mindbleach
///just glad he apparently made it through surgery relatively uneventfully


You referenced ANSI.
 
I have you Farkied as "Super Smart Dude" you never disappoint.
2013-04-01 12:52:18 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


...sweet mother of Fark, that goes way the hell past Theismann, past Barbaro, and into "Please tell me someone shopped that from Ogrish.com or the like because Jesus gawddamn ballbearing baby Christ I didn't know someone's limb could DO that outside of a Nightmare on Elm Street sequel".  Not quite Malarchuk level (less life threatening, apparently it missed arteries) but....gah, what can be seen cannot be unseen INDEED.
 
I'm upgrading this to THREE Theismanns.  We definitely have a new ANSI standard for Nightmarish Leg Injuries Occurring In Sports. O_o
 
/and now I'm going to pretty much just sit here with bourbon and kittens and hope this acts as mindbleach
//gonna need a looooooooot of mindbleach
///just glad he apparently made it through surgery relatively uneventfully
2013-04-01 12:41:17 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


That chilled me right to the marrow.
2013-04-01 12:38:16 AM
1 votes:

WTFdoesitmatter: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL

So tempted to make this pic my Facebook cover photo...


Thinking about uploading it, and then occasionally bombing my friends' news feeds by sharing it and/or reuploading. That would be trollin' so hard.
2013-04-01 12:32:50 AM
1 votes:

mxstone: OK: How can there NOT be blood gushing out of that wound? I've crashed a MX Motorcycle and gashed my leg on the footpeg in the same area as this wound but obviously a much smaller cut and it bled like a stuck pig. Is it just timing and moments after this pic the blood started?


I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it.
They were there somewhat quickly with a towel.
2013-04-01 12:28:46 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL

 
OK: How can there NOT be blood gushing out of that wound? I've crashed a MX Motorcycle and gashed my leg on the footpeg in the same area as this wound but obviously a much smaller cut and it bled like a stuck pig. Is it just timing and moments after this pic the blood started?
2013-04-01 12:21:22 AM
1 votes:
For those of you that are internet wizards, how about finding the pics of the Louisville Dance Team members from Playboy that got them kicked off the Dance team?
2013-04-01 12:12:37 AM
1 votes:
Eyebleach for those that viewed that pic...
 
chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com 
 
4.bp.blogspot.com 
 
static6.businessinsider.com
2013-04-01 12:09:09 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Thanks for the link, I'm not one of the squeamish people - wanted to see the damn thing, not a blurry .gif
2013-04-01 12:07:31 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


HOLY SHIAT...
 
What has been seen cannot be unseen...
2013-04-01 12:05:21 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


And I'm done Interneting for the night.
 
/Jesus H. Christ
2013-03-31 11:55:35 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Well, I'm not going to be eating tomorrow.
2013-03-31 11:47:33 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


So glad I have a strong stomach, I had to look again, I remember seeing him bent like that on tv but it wasn't that close up.
2013-03-31 11:47:22 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


oh thank GOD you couldn't that live. At least not from my TV on CBS.
2013-03-31 11:37:56 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Okay...I take it back. ewww....
2013-03-31 11:33:31 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL


Mother of God in Heaven. Why do I look?
2013-03-31 11:29:38 PM
1 votes:

flynn80: ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.

Be Ware.


That gif is gone apparently...just the bench reaction.  Anyone got a working link?
2013-03-31 11:27:42 PM
1 votes:
2013-03-31 11:17:58 PM
1 votes:

thisisyourbrainonFark: FueledByEthanol: Dearest subby,

Go fark yourself.

Sincerely,
FBE

[i52.tinypic.com image 477x346]


Eh, at least his name wasn't Barbaro Ware.
2013-03-31 11:13:45 PM
1 votes:
For some reason watching the bench's reaction reminded me of Alien when the chestburster made it's famous appearance.
2013-03-31 11:07:12 PM
1 votes:
I saw it on TV. I can't unsee it. But it'll probably end up on Tosh.0 in some form. Maybe some kind of "2 girls, 1 cup" reaction video compilation.
2013-03-31 10:56:42 PM
1 votes:
A friend of mine had a similar injury during a football game in high school. It's weird seeing a black dude go ghost white. He also went into weird convulsion like things. From shock I guess.

/spent the next few weeks on so many pain pills I don't know why he bothered coming to class.
2013-03-31 10:54:01 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-03-31 10:53:58 PM
1 votes:
God in Heaven. Psycho Sid just had a flashback.
2013-03-31 10:49:57 PM
1 votes:

06Wahoo: hundreddollarman: Principal Clarinet: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

Theismann

IT'S OVER 9 THEISMANNS!

He went full Theismann.  You never go full Theismann.


No, Theismann didn't even hit that level.  And yes I looked at the GIF... his leg broke in half!
2013-03-31 10:48:07 PM
1 votes:
I'm not going to watch it again to verify, but what I remember from the replay is that when Ware jumped for the block he turned his head to the left (and his body as well a little) to see if the shot was going to go in. He tried to land on his right foot, but came down on it perpendicular to his path and he landed on the outer edge of his shoe. His momentum caused his ankle to roll outward, so all of his body weight came down on that and caused the leg to break between his knee and ankle. It seemed like when he turned to look he forgot he was also supposed to land because right before his foot hit the ground it looked like his right leg went limp, or at least not braced for the impact.

If anyone is brave enough to clarify my theory, please do
2013-03-31 10:40:12 PM
1 votes:
God that was brutal, I was watching the game trying to figure out why three players were on the ground and the Duke player was holding his chest, then I saw the replay, dude picked his leg up while he was laying on this back, it was bent down on a 90, and it wasn't bent at the knee, that's all you need to know.
2013-03-31 10:34:41 PM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


Looks again, needs eyebleach...again.
2013-03-31 10:32:04 PM
1 votes:

ISO15693: It's still not as graphic as what Johan Franzen did to Joe Thornton in the Stanley cup Playoffs a couple years ago:


LOL

4seasons85!: Holy scheisse no South Park reference? What's going on Fark?


I don't know, his knees didn't explode testicular matter all over the place, so it's not quite the same.
2013-03-31 10:31:58 PM
1 votes:

ISO15693: It's still not as graphic as what Johan Franzen did to Joe Thornton in the Stanley cup Playoffs a couple years ago:


Damn, man, that belongs in the Game of Thrones thread. Way too gruesome.
2013-03-31 10:25:31 PM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


Be Ware.
2013-03-31 10:25:13 PM
1 votes:
2013-03-31 10:19:47 PM
1 votes:
Oh I guess McCallum's knee was MNF, but I mean, it was the Raiders so who cares. ;)
2013-03-31 10:18:35 PM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: Probably because (well, short of Malarchuk, but Clint Malarchuk gets his own very special category for pretty much having his jugular cut on ice and sticking his thumb in the wound to keep from bleeding out) up until the Wade Incident the Theismann injury was probably the worst injury (to a human, anyways) that people had seen on live television.


Maybe that's it. McCallum (was that his name?) was a preseason game, Prothro was a college game when Alabama was cheating without the championships, and so forth.
2013-03-31 10:14:21 PM
1 votes:
I just watched the DVR of that injury and, yep, that sound was rather loud.
2013-03-31 10:10:48 PM
1 votes:

puffy999: Why do people keep acting as if Joe Theismann's legs were ripped from his body and thrown into the stands?

Anyway, I'd be very afraid to be this kid and to have an injury like this. Losing the end of your career to a tackle must suck, but potentially losing your career early because you landed?


Probably because (well, short of Malarchuk, but Clint Malarchuk gets his own very special category for pretty much having his jugular cut on ice and sticking his thumb in the wound to keep from bleeding out) up until the Wade Incident the Theismann injury was probably the worst injury (to a human, anyways) that people had seen on live television.What can be seen cannot be unseen, and all that.
2013-03-31 10:01:14 PM
1 votes:
I don't particularly want to watch the clip again but it seems like a pretty innocuous athletic movement. I have to think there was something else going on there to cause that to happen. Bones are generally pretty strong and don't just snap like that.

Still, kinda makes you want to avoid any non-critical jumping jacks for a while.
2013-03-31 10:00:08 PM
1 votes:
Dearest subby,

Go fark yourself.

Sincerely,
FBE
2013-03-31 09:59:34 PM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction. iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels


Holy shiat.

Yeah, I won't be watching the actual injury. Even just the reaction is kind of disturbing.
2013-03-31 09:58:18 PM
1 votes:
Silverstaff:
They see that injury however, they know that's no special effect.  That's not Hollywood, that's a young man in the most pain of his life, pain most humans will never endure, and almost certainly the end of any sports career.

Physicall, it might not be a career ender.  Corey Hill did the Gumby Dance with is leg in the UFC due to a checked leg kick.  He took 7 fights after that injury (though it took 2 years for him to come back).  If you can shatter your shin and come back in a sport where your opponent will try to kick you in that leg hard enough to shatter it again, then I would assume a basketball player ought to be able to come back too.

If that injury does end Kevin Ware's career, its probably due to being on the shelf for 2 years and having the scouts forget about him.  He will have a hell of a time getting back onto any competitive team even at the college level if he takes 2 years off.

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2008/12/corey-hill-undergoes-surgery-f or -broken-leg-sidelined-for-12-18-months

END COMMUNICATION
2013-03-31 09:57:40 PM
1 votes:
Don't Kentucky fans hate Louisville? Must be a bitter-sweet thing for Drew.

The injury was gruesome. Saw it live with my brother-in-law, while our wives had just gotten up to help his parents to start to set up the dining table for Easter dinner. They missed the injury by one minute.

I did not realize the bone actually came out of the skin until seeing some of the links from this thread.

I hope he recovers wells.
2013-03-31 09:57:18 PM
1 votes:
Just saw the injury. Holy shiat that was gruesome.
2013-03-31 09:55:49 PM
1 votes:
Watching the game with my family I knew right there that Duke would lose the game.
2013-03-31 09:52:17 PM
1 votes:

ten foiled hats: When he landed from the shot-block attempt, his foot stopped...just imagine jumping forward, and when you land part of your lower leg stops while the other part keeps going.


Thing is, that usually results in sprain or dislocation unless there's pressure on the bone itself.  Just fixing the bone in one spot shouldn't do that; the joints should give first.  The fact that there was no contact makes the injury so mysterious.

We really, really need a doc in here.  Did the guy have osteoporosis or something?
2013-03-31 09:43:54 PM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


Jesus H Christ! It's like the second book in Harry Potter where all the bones are gone...except the is at least one here.
2013-03-31 09:41:21 PM
1 votes:
K couldn't coach well today because his staff didn't pack the right day coffin for him.

F*ck dook.
2013-03-31 09:40:32 PM
1 votes:
I don't care how many times it's been said, I didn't get to say it yet.  Duke sucks
2013-03-31 09:34:00 PM
1 votes:

thisiszombocom: how did the injury happen?  im too scared to watch.

i can understand in football when there are 300lbs men hitting you while running at full speed, but in basketball?

ugh, bad sports weekend in general


Pretty routine-looking play.  He went to block a shot, missed the block, shot went in.  Louisville goes to in-bound, but there's this crumpled heap near the bench and a lot of noise.  What the hell just happened?  Let's go to the replay.  When he landed from the shot-block attempt, his foot stopped...just imagine jumping forward, and when you land part of your lower leg stops while the other part keeps going.
2013-03-31 09:29:55 PM
1 votes:

thisiszombocom: how did the injury happen?  im too scared to watch.

i can understand in football when there are 300lbs men hitting you while running at full speed, but in basketball?

ugh, bad sports weekend in general


I'm still pretty OK with Michigan.  And I laughed at the headline, so I'm probably going to hell anyway.

That said, since I'm human, that really sucks.  Can't imagine what it must've been like going from a crazy NCAA/national television broadcast high to an excruciating painful low.  Damn.  Poor kid.

/Didn't see it, but the roommate gave me a clear warning the second I got home and he figured out I had been on the road during the Louisville game
2013-03-31 09:28:19 PM
1 votes:
I wonder if the Theismann injury would have been about that gruesome if he'd been wearing shorts when it happened.  But as it looks there, I think this is worse.
2013-03-31 09:27:07 PM
1 votes:
dragonchild:
I think a relatively recent change to medicine is that they don't set compound fractures anymore.  The reason is to show the surgeons the injury "as is" so they can treat it accordingly.  If you shove all the parts back in, you've possibly contaminated the wound with whatever the bones got exposed to.

A compound fracture pretty much requires surgical repair, right?  Might as well leave it as is and not risk doing even more soft tissue damage (and cause even more pain and contamination) and treat with massive doses of painkillers until emergency surgery can begin.

My dad suffered an open fracture of his ankle a few months before he died.  He was in surgery within the first couple hours after arriving at the hospital.
2013-03-31 09:23:45 PM
1 votes:
Saw it live (on the television. Not in person) and wasn't sure what happened. Then CBS replayed it and I couldn't believe they did. Then they replayed it one more time. Horrific injury. My guess is a preexisting condition.
2013-03-31 09:23:14 PM
1 votes:
how did the injury happen?  im too scared to watch.

i can understand in football when there are 300lbs men hitting you while running at full speed, but in basketball?

ugh, bad sports weekend in general
2013-03-31 09:22:28 PM
1 votes:
Against my better judgment, I watched the animated GIF of this.  Yeah, that injury is pretty bad.  The video is not going to scar me for life or anything, though - it's not to <i>that</i> level, at least for me.  But yeah, if you're squeamish like that, don't watch it.

I just hope this doesn't leave lasting damage to his leg or ruin hopes of a professional career if he had one.
2013-03-31 09:22:22 PM
1 votes:

kxs401: Granted, it wasn't a compound fracture, but I don't know how much that changes things.


A lot.  The key difference between a compound fracture and other breaks is the massively increased risk of infection.  The surgery team would much rather your femur be shattered as long as the skin was intact than a single clean break where the bone pokes out.  They can always remove bits of bone and screw the rest back together as long as they're the ones who make the incision.  If the bone does the cutting it's going to make a royal mess of the surrounding soft tissue, which means the first order of business is to clean the wound as thoroughly as possible.  The recovery time may be comparable if all goes well (I dunno), but it's not recovery time that's the issue; the risk of complication is much higher.

I think a relatively recent change to medicine is that they don't set compound fractures anymore.  The reason is to show the surgeons the injury "as is" so they can treat it accordingly.  If you shove all the parts back in, you've possibly contaminated the wound with whatever the bones got exposed to.
2013-03-31 09:18:24 PM
1 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: kxs401: phantomerick: Looks and sounds like a bone malformation or a disease of some kind. Not enough to snap a healthy leg bone. Did he have tattoos ? Paging Dr. House...

I've heard speculation that he might have had a stress fracture already.

When I first saw it, I wondered how a guy who spends much of his life leaping through the air could have had such a huge break occur on a fairly routine landing.  There must have been something preexisting.


Probably, but weird shiat happens sometimes, like Kendry Morales breaking his damn leg with a little celebratory hop at home plate.
2013-03-31 09:18:06 PM
1 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: When I first saw it, I wondered how a guy who spends much of his life leaping through the air could have had such a huge break occur on a fairly routine landing.  There must have been something preexisting.


In the game thread, someone mentioned the raised floor. On a normal basketball court, he'd just plow straight on through the bench and into the fans. Here there was a good drop at the edge of the court and he tried to stop on a dime before pitching over the side. That, um, didn't work.
2013-03-31 09:17:25 PM
1 votes:

ontariolightning: Max Talbot also got stepped on by a skate on his achilles


That is why I don't go ice skating.  My immediate fear is my fingers, not my achilles, but same idea
2013-03-31 09:17:16 PM
1 votes:
Oh dear god
2013-03-31 09:15:41 PM
1 votes:
I'll check it out when it makes Tosh.0 later this week.
2013-03-31 09:15:22 PM
1 votes:

Scorpinock: I had a friend who was out jogging and snapped her femur. That's the upper leg bone, and the hardest to break. She was just jogging. It turns out there was a type of tumor in the bone, slowly growing and overtaking the bone mass, and replacing it with tumor. It snapped like a twig right above the knee with nothing more than a small leap off a curb to cause it.

/gross story, bro.


That one seems more like a blessing

Is she in remission?
2013-03-31 09:14:37 PM
1 votes:

dragonchild: kxs401: As awful as the injury looks, he'll probably recover fully. In the long run, it's much better to break a bone that to tear cartilage or a tendon.

Um, no.  No, no, NO.  You're thinking of broken bones where the skin keeps everything covered.  This was a compound fracture.  With prompt medical attention (check), competent care (check I guess) and a little luck (?), he'll make a full recovery.  But if the luck element is missing or there's a goof during surgery or prep, he could lose the leg to infection.  The interior of bone is nice spongy blood factory.  It's not something you ever want exposed to air.

He'll probably recover fully?  Likely in this day and age, and the hospital's likely to take every precaution with such a high-profile injury.  But no no no no NO, this is one case where you'd gladly take torn cartilage AND a torn tendon.  Hell, throw in a couple blown-out ligaments while you're at it.


I broke my femur playing rugby, and the doctors told me I was lucky that it was my femur that gave out first and not my knee. It was immediately far more traumatic (including a nicked femoral artery) but I recovered fully within eight weeks and was able to perform as before. Cartilage and tendons don't heal NEARLY as well as bones do. Granted, it wasn't a compound fracture, but I don't know how much that changes things.
2013-03-31 09:14:15 PM
1 votes:

What_Would_Jimi_Do: someone in the game thread saying that doesn't make it speculation.


Um, speculation is exactly what it is.  What you don't want calling my medical opinion is prognosis.
2013-03-31 09:13:44 PM
1 votes:

taglius: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough

It was about 1.22 Theismanns


I give it 1.41 Theismanns. It was in HD and the injury was visible throughout.
2013-03-31 09:12:52 PM
1 votes:
That one was in no way worse than Theismann.

Having said that, my buddy and I were only half-assed watching the game and I was unfortunate enough to be paying attention.We both just stopped dead in our tracks when it happened.

CBS showed 3 quick replays and then stopped them in favor of player reactions. Unfortunately, at least 2 of the player reactions had his injury lingering in the back ground with his shin damn near out of his skin (may have been).

On a scale of 1-10, id give it a 8. Just brutal.
2013-03-31 09:12:00 PM
1 votes:
I had a friend who was out jogging and snapped her femur. That's the upper leg bone, and the hardest to break. She was just jogging. It turns out there was a type of tumor in the bone, slowly growing and overtaking the bone mass, and replacing it with tumor. It snapped like a twig right above the knee with nothing more than a small leap off a curb to cause it.

/gross story, bro.
2013-03-31 09:11:30 PM
1 votes:

kxs401: phantomerick: Looks and sounds like a bone malformation or a disease of some kind. Not enough to snap a healthy leg bone. Did he have tattoos ? Paging Dr. House...

I've heard speculation that he might have had a stress fracture already.


someone in the game thread saying that doesn't make it speculation.
2013-03-31 09:09:05 PM
1 votes:

drewsclues: JustSurfin: Reports are that he'll be out for a year, at least. If he's lucky, he'll play again as a senior.

after that mess, the NCAA might give him 5 extra years of eligibility. The Theismann of our generation. I hope to see him back playing ball.


The NCAA isn't that nice, IMHO.
2013-03-31 09:07:06 PM
1 votes:
Nasty injury, but the video is more "oooh, a leg shouldn't do that" than horrific gore. You can extrapolate from the video what that injury would've felt like and sounded like and looked like up close and *that's* pretty gruesome.
2013-03-31 09:05:19 PM
1 votes:

phantomerick: Looks and sounds like a bone malformation or a disease of some kind. Not enough to snap a healthy leg bone. Did he have tattoos ? Paging Dr. House...


I've heard speculation that he might have had a stress fracture already.
2013-03-31 09:03:55 PM
1 votes:

hershy799: ten foiled hats: hershy799: ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.

I caved, and clicked. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Well, being as how you asked (and we'll all be weighing in, if we haven't already), where would you rate it?  Just curious.

I'd rate it at a Theismann, with the potential for a higher rating. The visible bone gives points in favor of Ware, but LT essentially giving Joe Theismann a new knee gives points to Theismann. It's quite possible that additional camera angles will require the scale to be re-calibrated with Ware being the new high score, but I'm seriously (this time) not going to watch those.


Yeah, I think it depends on what we're really asking.  Theismann had the worse injury, hands down.  But I think this one was worse from a 'sh*t you might just as soon not see' standpoint.
2013-03-31 09:01:03 PM
1 votes:

dragonchild: MichiganFTL: What makes people so squeamish about this but will be watching walking dead in 8 minutes while eating chocolates covered cherries?

The human brain's clever enough to know the difference between real and fake.
[media-cache-ec1.pinterest.com image 192x272]


I guess this is a good litmus test for those of us who don't care either way. Low standards means high options.
2013-03-31 08:59:52 PM
1 votes:
As awful as the injury looks, he'll probably recover fully. In the long run, it's much better to break a bone that to tear cartilage or a tendon.
2013-03-31 08:59:23 PM
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-03-31 08:58:41 PM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


watch it but keep your eyes on the bench. The players reactions are horrifying
2013-03-31 08:58:33 PM
1 votes:
Seriously glad I missed this on tv- just reading about it makes me sick to my stomach.  I can't imagine what it was like to be there and to witness it.

/+10 for the headline
2013-03-31 08:58:08 PM
1 votes:
SlothB77: KiwDaWabbit: Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?

Yes, it was a compound fracture. I would estimate that it was protruding by three or four inches...difficult to say.

DoctorsCoach Pitino say 6 inches protrusion
2013-03-31 08:57:38 PM
1 votes:

ten foiled hats: hershy799: ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.

I caved, and clicked. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Well, being as how you asked (and we'll all be weighing in, if we haven't already), where would you rate it?  Just curious.


I'd rate it at a Theismann, with the potential for a higher rating. The visible bone gives points in favor of Ware, but LT essentially giving Joe Theismann a new knee gives points to Theismann. It's quite possible that additional camera angles will require the scale to be re-calibrated with Ware being the new high score, but I'm seriously (this time) not going to watch those.
2013-03-31 08:57:26 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: KiwDaWabbit: Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?

Yes, it was a compound fracture. I would estimate that it was protruding by three or four inches...difficult to say.

Doctors say 6 inches protrusion


Ahh...thanks. I thought that my guess was more on the conservative side.
2013-03-31 08:56:04 PM
1 votes:

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


Saw it live. Never again. Nope. Not even if Alison Brie said she'd sleep with me if I watched it for 24 straight hours.

i.chzbgr.com

/Well, maybe if Alison Brie says she'll sleep with me.
2013-03-31 08:54:37 PM
1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Does that mean he's gonna tell us he needs to pee every five minutes as well?


BWAHAHAHAHA!  That was turrible, and why I'm on Fark.
2013-03-31 08:53:16 PM
1 votes:

hundreddollarman: IT'S OVER 9 THEISMANNS!


This. Definitely this.
2013-03-31 08:51:19 PM
1 votes:

hershy799: ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.

I caved, and clicked. What has been seen cannot be unseen.


Well, being as how you asked (and we'll all be weighing in, if we haven't already), where would you rate it?  Just curious.
2013-03-31 08:50:57 PM
1 votes:
yes it was worse that theismann.

best wishes for a speedy recovery to kevin ware. i almost started crying after watching it live.
2013-03-31 08:50:56 PM
1 votes:
Yikes, that was brutal.  The entire Louisville bench cowered in fear.
2013-03-31 08:50:09 PM
1 votes:
Birnone: ...splinters of bone were grinding around among the torn flesh and muscle.

I had that with my elbow (shattered). I remember my tricep spasming as the bone chips dug in. It took the pediatric surgeon between three or four hours to get them out.
2013-03-31 08:48:22 PM
1 votes:

Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?  I don't want to watch the video to find out...

What year was he?  Also, I don't know anything about their team - was he a star on the team?


Yes
Sophomore
Sixth man, secondary ball handler, I believe. Not a starter, but reasonably important.
2013-03-31 08:48:05 PM
1 votes:

shoegaze99: legion_of_doo: Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.

This is one of those things where I'm curious just so I know what people are talking about, but can't bring myself to watch it because that sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me.



Trust me, you don't want to check it out. Consider yourself fortunate. 

Nobody is going to call you a wuss if you don't see it because it's horrible, and I can believe it if they say players on the bench vomited when they saw that. If it was in front of me, I may very well have vomited. You just lucked out.

Sure, there are worse things in the world, and maybe the guy will still have a basketball career ahead of him, but damn, we've got really good video technology.

/no real reason to watch that again, or even one time
2013-03-31 08:47:14 PM
1 votes:
Come to our macaroni party and we'll take a nap...

/does not want to see the injury. Just hearing about it is enough. Holy fark.
2013-03-31 08:47:14 PM
1 votes:

studebaker hoch: And we have our 2013 Theismann Trophy winner.


given footballs ability to produce injuries, let's not be hasty, though yeah it's going to be hard to beat
2013-03-31 08:47:10 PM
1 votes:

Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?  I don't want to watch the video to find out...

What year was he?  Also, I don't know anything about their team - was he a star on the team?


There aren't any pictures in the article to worry about (at least not with noscript/adblock). You can read it and find out all this in about 20 seconds.
2013-03-31 08:46:35 PM
1 votes:

Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?


Yes, it was a compound fracture. I would estimate that it was protruding by three or four inches...difficult to say.
2013-03-31 08:46:29 PM
1 votes:

Myria: Did the bone go through the skin?  I don't want to watch the video to find out...


Yes it did. And he's a sophomore.
2013-03-31 08:46:03 PM
1 votes:
And we have our 2013 Theismann Trophy winner.
2013-03-31 08:44:28 PM
1 votes:
Did the bone go through the skin?  I don't want to watch the video to find out...

What year was he?  Also, I don't know anything about their team - was he a star on the team?
2013-03-31 08:44:07 PM
1 votes:
CBS showed a couple of replays before they decided that enough was enough. The one angle where you could see the bone sticking out convinced me I didn't need to see it again.
2013-03-31 08:43:21 PM
1 votes:

Principal Clarinet: [www.popfi.com image 515x364]

Sympathizes


That's what I immediately thought of.
2013-03-31 08:42:11 PM
1 votes:

hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?


He just set a whole new bar.
2013-03-31 08:42:07 PM
1 votes:

hershy799: but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?


worse than Theisman since well you could see it's a compound fracture
2013-03-31 08:41:50 PM
1 votes:

legion_of_doo: Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.


This is one of those things where I'm curious just so I know what people are talking about, but can't bring myself to watch it because that sort of thing just doesn't sit well with me.
2013-03-31 08:41:29 PM
1 votes:
1.5 Theismanns at least. Think Theismann + Malarchuk.
2013-03-31 08:41:26 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough

it was a flop.  Bad acting.


Well, part of his leg was flopping.
2013-03-31 08:40:38 PM
1 votes:
I thought the Ventura leg break was worse then the Theisman. The Seau arm break gave me the dry heaves.
2013-03-31 08:40:33 PM
1 votes:
I usually watch this stuff, but I would recommend not watching it.

This evening I was having dinner with a friend at a local bar/tavern and when the showed the first replay, everyone in the restaurant just started groaning and yelling.  You could hear forks and knives falling onto plates.
2013-03-31 08:40:27 PM
1 votes:
Anybody remember when Letterman did the Joe Theismann pencil sharpener sketch? That was so tasteless, NBC has eradicated any trace of it.
2013-03-31 08:39:39 PM
1 votes:
i got a kick out of this headline
2013-03-31 08:39:02 PM
1 votes:

taglius: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough

It was about 1.22 Theismanns


ten foiled hats: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough

Theismann.  Scale may need to be recalibrated bad, in fact.


What they said. Ware is the new Theismann.
2013-03-31 08:36:53 PM
1 votes:

hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

/Saw the Theismann video once, which was more than enough


Theismann.  Scale may need to be recalibrated bad, in fact.
2013-03-31 08:36:49 PM
1 votes:
Too Tsunami
2013-03-31 08:32:24 PM
1 votes:
www.popfi.com

Sympathizes
2013-03-31 07:44:52 PM
1 votes:
My kid is still laughing three minutes after I read your headline to him stubby. Good job.
 
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