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(ESPN)   Louisville over Duke. Oh snap   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 311
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2013-04-01 02:22:49 AM  

Twitch Boy: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL

That has to be shopped.  No farking way.


it was shopped to blame the duke player, it was an offensive foul
 
2013-04-01 02:23:20 AM  
Based on the reactions I'm reading in this thread, between this and the puck-to-Crosby's jaw (that I've seen a couple of times and have to turn away from *that*) I might have to just avoid ESPN and the like for the next few days. I don't want to catch video of the injury out of the corner of my eye or something.
 
2013-04-01 02:41:55 AM  

mxstone: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL
 
OK: How can there NOT be blood gushing out of that wound? I've crashed a MX Motorcycle and gashed my leg on the footpeg in the same area as this wound but obviously a much smaller cut and it bled like a stuck pig. Is it just timing and moments after this pic the blood started?


That part of the leg doesn't have many veins or arteries. Now if it went the opposite way, he would have been bleeding like a stuck pig.
 
2013-04-01 02:49:16 AM  
Either way, Duke sucks.
 
2013-04-01 02:53:20 AM  
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2013-04-01 02:55:34 AM  
forums.pelicanparts.com
 
2013-04-01 03:29:04 AM  

ZoSo_the_Crowe: http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/ 2 013/03/pain.gif

VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT. You will be able to see the bone sticking out of the leg.

For those who missed it.


I threw up a bit in my mouth
 
2013-04-01 03:34:02 AM  
Meh. After 10+ years of war being on TV and Internet every day and night, the IED explosions, the hostage butcherings, the EFP bombs, helmet-cam snipers...all that stuff; seeing a guy snap his leg in half unexpectedly really wasn't that shocking.

I may have become a little desensitized.
 
2013-04-01 03:42:12 AM  

Girion47: I have you Farkied as "Super Smart Dude" you never disappoint.

 
Bullshiat.
 
This needs to undergo rigorous testing with repeated results in order for any qualification.
 
For all we know, his legs were made of non-homogeneous material!
 
2013-04-01 03:42:55 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.


That's a good "nope" gif
 
2013-04-01 04:04:30 AM  

puffy999: Girion47: I have you Farkied as "Super Smart Dude" you never disappoint.
 
Bullshiat.
 
This needs to undergo rigorous testing with repeated results in order for any qualification.
 
For all we know, his legs were made of non-homogeneous material!


Except in this case we're not so much testing the composition of his tibia and fibula, but rather the level of nausea and vomiting induced by an injury that would put the fear of Princess Luna into any decent pony, that's all.  (A test of the level of grotesque sports injury caused to cause a failure of gastrointestinal fortitude in the majority of subjects, shall we say.  Previous to today, the Theismann was generally considered to be the ANSI standard unit of gastrointestinal distress caused by a grotesque sports injury, and the Malarchuk the ISO standard--the latter still stands, of course.)
 
/dark humour aside, though, here's hoping Kevin is on the mend
 
2013-04-01 04:28:39 AM  
Also, as an aside:
 
This would have to be by definition an ANSI standard for horrific sports injuries of the horror induced, not the injury itself, for several reasons:
 
a) Testing of this sort is, by its nature, destructive.
b) The University of Louisville Medical Research department is not quite up to the task of cloning humans, both by reasons of legality and the fact that the tech isn't quite there yet (and their evil geniuses have more important things to worry about).
c) For some odd reason, the University of Louisville Athletics Program is in general quite loathe to loan out their players on a repeated, ongoing basis to the Speed Scientific School's Mechanical Engineering department (and afterwards to the Medical School) to determine how much force in Newtons is in fact required to break a player's leg to the extent half a foot of bone is exposed.
d) The University of Louisville Medical School's psychology department would generally agree that such an experiment would be considered Highly Unethical. :D
 
2013-04-01 04:43:45 AM  
Hope he can rap
 
2013-04-01 05:00:51 AM  
Oh God, it's like shoving a chopstick through a sausage lengthwise, then snapping it all in half.
 
2013-04-01 06:38:36 AM  
The only injury I can recall that was worse, was in skiing, when Austrian Matthias Lanzinger broke his left leg in a downhill race. Yes it's on Youtube. If you search on his name should be the third video "Lanzinger breaks his leg"
 
2013-04-01 06:55:59 AM  

legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either
 
GBB
2013-04-01 07:49:58 AM  
Who's the guard?
Ware.
Right there.
Ware.
The guy that just broke his leg.
Ware.
 
2013-04-01 08:14:26 AM  
As bad as the Theismann injury was, I think the scale should be renamed "The McCallum Scale".  I just hope Tosh knows better than to highlight Ware's injury on his show.
 
2013-04-01 08:18:44 AM  
Even though I didn't see it live, just the fact that it happened may explain why I threw up in my mouth this morning.
 
2013-04-01 08:21:09 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.


i like the father and young son in the front row of this.  The father starts pointing at Ware as if he is telling his kid to look.  Everyone else is turning away and the father is like 'look look, no over there, over there.'
 
2013-04-01 08:37:57 AM  
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2013-04-01 08:44:12 AM  

Bendal: legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?
 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either


Not bullshiat, I was watching as well and I thought something had happened to the Duke player's eye the way he was grimacing and covering his face, then they showed the three guys on the floor and i was really confused.   There was a jump in the feed.
 
2013-04-01 08:45:53 AM  

ISO15693: Just so you know, you are incorrect.
 
Compound Fracture
n.
A fracture in which broken bone fragments lacerate soft tissue and protrude through an open wound in the skin.
 
It has nothing to do with multiple of anything.


FWIW, we have moved away from  the word "compound" in the medical world.  A fracture is described as open or closed, and then other big words we can charge a lot for are used to describe the damage to the bone.
 
2013-04-01 08:53:53 AM  
If I ever swallow poison and need an emergency evacuation, now i know what to do.
 
2013-04-01 09:00:55 AM  
"The bone's 6 inches out of his leg and all he's yelling is, 'Win the game, win the game,'" Pitino said after the game. "I've not seen that in my life. ... Pretty special young man." Link

i36.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-01 09:06:21 AM  
I would put Tim Krumrie somewhere in between Theisman and Ware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzWp_qQGo8 
 
Napolean McCallum wasn't much better at about (1:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT4kAKB2CT8
 
2013-04-01 09:17:44 AM  

Girion47: Bendal: legion_of_doo: hershy799: I didn't get to watch the game, and I refuse to watch the injury... but on a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?
 
Bad enough that they killed the live feed. Bad enough that you don't want to see the replay even if you're curious, unless you're a total sadist.
 
The Dookie took the shot, and all of a sudden, everything jumped ahead a few seconds.
 
Oh I call bullshiat on you. I was watching the whole game live, and there was never a "jump" in the live feed. The Duke player took the shot and the camera then shifted downcourt since Louisville got the rebound, then everything stopped because there were at least three Louisville players laying on the court. At first we thought they had run into each other getting the rebound, then we saw Ware right in front of his bench being attended to. They even ran the replay a few times while still trying to figure out what had happened, but once it was obvious Ware was hurt VERY badly, they stopped showing it.
 
We first thought he had broken his ankle in spectacular fashion since one of the replays showed his foot turning 90 degrees to his leg, but since they didn't show that replay again it was hard to tell. I suspected a compound fracture or severe bone displacement when the training staff were calling for and using every towel they could get their hands on, and once the back board showed up we began figuring the leg was really badly hurt.
 
/saw the slow motion replay later
//sickening; legs don't bend that way between joints
///bones shouldn't stick out either

 
Not bullshiat, I was watching as well and I thought something had happened to the Duke player's eye the way he was grimacing and covering his face, then they showed the three guys on the floor and i was really confused.   There was a jump in the feed.
 
They changed camera angles so not to show Ware's leg flopping around or his bench's reaction, but that was it. There wasn't any stoppage of live camera action, they just switched to a different view.
 
2013-04-01 09:39:28 AM  
I initially chose to not watch the links, but my local news insisted in giving four replays of it, so I caught it, if buy from the corner of my eye the first time.
 
It was terrible and gruesome, but not as shocking as I initially expected. Both injuries were, no doubt, terrible, but to my eye, Theisman's  looked worse. Not worse medically necessarily, but from a viewer perspective. Maybe the camera angle or something, but watching Theisman's on TV, you could almost feel it. This one, I was like "Ohhh, nasty!" but I didn't cringe as much.
 
Perhaps I've become desensitized as I was a kid when Theisman's happened and now I've got 20+ years of the internet behind me...
 
2013-04-01 09:47:28 AM  
The correct formula is:

Sid Vicious
----------------- x 1.8
Joe Theismann

The Malarchuk is on a totally different scale, like Monica Seles getting stabbed.
 
2013-04-01 09:51:12 AM  

seadoo2006: I think the guys in the bench say it all ... good god ... O_o

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Friend of mine said the UL bench all fell out like they were Pentecostals.
 
2013-04-01 09:57:35 AM  
How does this compare to Sid Vicious jumping of the ropes in the death throes of WCW.

/yes wrestling is fake
//injury scary as shiat, especially watching as a 12 year old
 
2013-04-01 10:01:54 AM  

jbull217: The correct formula is:

Sid Vicious
----------------- x 1.8
Joe Theismann

The Malarchuk is on a totally different scale, like Monica Seles getting stabbed.


1.0 Malarchuk = THAT incident.  Everything else just pales in comparsion.
 
2013-04-01 10:02:37 AM  

Jonny Chimpo: How does this compare to Sid Vicious jumping of the ropes in the death throes of WCW.

/yes wrestling is fake
//injury scary as shiat, especially watching as a 12 year old


Right on par.
 
2013-04-01 10:09:46 AM  

Joe Peanut: Oh, snap! (Not Safe For The Squeamish)

I was going to post the image, but don't want to get banned.

 
I was at that fight due to being stationed at Ft Bragg.  I was absent when the injury occured because I was getting a beer and there was a good 25 minute delay.  We thought Corey was being a punk and holding back since it was a free show for the troops.  When they showed it on the big screens and explained it to us, the whole damn place recoiled.
 
2013-04-01 10:28:24 AM  

CJHardin: Joe Peanut: Oh, snap! (Not Safe For The Squeamish)

I was going to post the image, but don't want to get banned.
 
I was at that fight due to being stationed at Ft Bragg.  I was absent when the injury occured because I was getting a beer and there was a good 25 minute delay.  We thought Corey was being a punk and holding back since it was a free show for the troops.  When they showed it on the big screens and explained it to us, the whole damn place recoiled.


That was the one where Corey's leg went all Plastic Man, right? That show had sooooooo many folks getting hurt- how ironic they ran a show to benefit the troops where the locker room looked like a MASH unit afterwards.
 
2013-04-01 10:50:18 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Gif of the bench reaction.   iniILpN7Xz75E.gif 400×148 pixels

/hope the link works. It wouldn't post the regular way.


I like how the guy in the top right corner is like, "Son, look at the bone sticking out of his leg!"
 
2013-04-01 12:22:06 PM  
Wow, that truly is sad. I hope he gets a boatload of good fortune going forward to balance such an awful event out.

Forget Malarchuk, the true scale should be 1.0 Knox.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15-yQO01Uwc
 
2013-04-01 12:53:30 PM  

Lost Thought 00: A great victory for HD, that was


It was like a non-grainy sports version of the Zapruder film
 
2013-04-01 01:09:10 PM  

Owangotang: Wow, that truly is sad. I hope he gets a boatload of good fortune going forward to balance such an awful event out.

Forget Malarchuk, the true scale should be 1.0 Knox.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15-yQO01Uwc


That's farked up
 
2013-04-01 01:35:40 PM  
I have a friend that played professional basketball in Europe for a while, and he immediately posted on twitter that he had personally seen the same injury happen to another player on the court. Maybe it's more common that we would think because not all games end up nationally televised.

My dad had a scar on his right arm from where his bone broke not only through the skin but also through his long-sleeve sweater. He was about 10 or so, said he remembered grabbing it and essentially trying to put the bone back in. There's an element of shock that takes over, so it's not surprising that Ware kept saying "Win the game!" instead of screaming in pain.

/Gross Story Sis
 
2013-04-01 03:05:59 PM  
I suggest that we make a distinction between horrific and life-threatening. Maybe someone can do a graph, maybe add some more elements.

To me, Ware's injury rates near the top of the "horrific" scale. Of course, just by the nature of the injury, there were/are risks that could ultimately jeopardize his life as well, but, in relative terms, it didn't carry the same risks as the Knox or Malarchuk injuries.
 
2013-04-01 03:24:22 PM  
TheJoe03:
Not sure what the toll MMA fights take on the legs, but basketball is one of the hardest sports to come back from a leg injury in. All the jumping and the way you make cuts on the court and all that makes it just as hard (if not worse) than that injury in an MMA fighter, mainly because you play more basketball games (for a longer period of time) than a fighter has fights. I guess it might be better than a knee injury.

Depends on the opponents and how the fighter trains.

Pro fighters may not fight very often, but the training is pretty much a full time job by its self.  Plenty of fighters end up screwing up their knees due to injuries that are wrestling related.  Also, doing kicking drills (ie, kicking Thai Pads or a Heavy bag) would put some stress on that kind of injury.  As far as grappling, there are also some leg submissions (heel hooks, knee bars) that would probably be a bad idea if your leg is not 100%

On top of that, some fighters like to get in their cardio workouts by running.  However, MMA fighter can work around injury.

I have no idea what kind of stresses would be worse.  Corey Hill (MMA Fighter who shattered his leg) was primarily a Muay Thai fighter, and leg kicks were presumably a key part of his arsenal.  As I said, I am sure that it is physically possible for this basketball player to play competitively again.  However, I would have to assume that the 2 years of letting his leg recover would almost certainly make any attempts to make the NBA very difficult if not impossible.

END COMMUNICATION
 
2013-04-01 03:30:54 PM  
How bad on the Sid scale? (NSFW)
 
2013-04-01 03:33:29 PM  

sephjnr: How bad on the Sid scale? (NSFW)


Never mind, a 1.0. Yeeeesh.
 
2013-04-01 03:50:04 PM  

hundreddollarman: WTFdoesitmatter: farkingismybusiness: High def pic of his leg. NSFL

So tempted to make this pic my Facebook cover photo...

Thinking about uploading it, and then occasionally bombing my friends' news feeds by sharing it and/or reuploading. That would be trollin' so hard.


Pretty sure that photo would get your account banned on Facebook.
 
2013-04-01 05:19:33 PM  

ds_4815: hershy799: On a scale of 1 to Theismann, how bad was the injury?

0.91 Malarchuks


According to Wikipedia, "11 fans fainted, 2 more suffered heart attacks and 3 players vomited on the ice."  in response to Malachuk getting his carotid artery severed.

/Saw the Ware injury by accident on Yahoo - Damn.
 
2013-04-01 06:38:15 PM  

Krustofsky: According to Wikipedia, "11 fans fainted, 2 more suffered heart attacks and 3 players vomited on the ice." in response to Malachuk getting his carotid artery severed.


If his carotid artery was severed he'd have been out in seconds and dead in minutes.  It was his jugular.

/ stay classy, Wikipedia
 
2013-04-01 06:41:04 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: To me, Ware's injury rates near the top of the "horrific" scale. Of course, just by the nature of the injury, there were/are risks that could ultimately jeopardize his life as well, but, in relative terms, it didn't carry the same risks as the Knox or Malarchuk injuries.


It's actually tougher to keep Ware's injury from becoming infected, thus he has a worse long-term prognosis.

Obviously if what happened to Malarchuk happened, say, on some pond in the middle of nowhere in Ottawa to some kid, he'd probably be dead. And, really, without immediate treatment Malarchuk may have been, as well.

Seriously, the still picture linked above shows just how bad that break was. That's a significant area of exposed bone marrow, nearly half of his leg, and that should be everyone's greatest worry beyond his playing career and the like.
 
2013-04-01 06:44:36 PM  
getting almost drunk enough to watch
 
2013-04-01 06:50:09 PM  

dragonchild: If his carotid artery was severed he'd have been out in seconds and dead in minutes. It was his jugular.


Uh, yeah, it was his carotid artery. He was a blood fountain timed in rhythm with his heart.
 
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