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(Slate)   Surrender: Police Departments have two strategies when they're under pressure to cut crime. 1, They flood crime zones with Police that muscle criminals off the streets. 2, They simply downgrade crimes, or make it difficult for citizens to report them   (slate.com) divider line 97
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2013-03-31 05:46:25 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Approves
 
2013-03-31 05:47:10 PM  
Taking a page straight out of the Chicago playbook of dealing with crime statistics. Murder involving a gun? Was it in a house? Then it's a domestic violence situation instead.
 
2013-03-31 05:52:37 PM  
3.: Or they could use deductive skills to solve crimes and show the public how crime doesn't pay and encourage them to live honest lives by leading through example.

/am I doing it right?
 
2013-03-31 05:53:08 PM  
Done in one
 
2013-03-31 05:54:08 PM  
it seems to be an epidemic in PD's everywhere

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to- re main-silent

check out the 2nd half of the podcast talking about NYPD and how they treated their own who tried to blow the whistle on this.
 
2013-03-31 05:54:15 PM  
 
2013-03-31 05:54:55 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: Done in one


Like your mom.
 
2013-03-31 05:58:05 PM  
fta I don't have a big problem with this. Police departments have to make tough choices, and this is an example of a choice that's entirely defensible given the realities of the municipal budget.

If you want less crime, hire more crime fighters. If you don't want to hire crime fighters, be content with more crime.
 
2013-03-31 05:58:57 PM  
This is news?  Since when?
 
2013-03-31 06:00:09 PM  
"Law enforcement" is just a very expensive form of welfare for the scared middle class. Grow a pair and learn to protect your pathetic heap of worthless possessions at your own expense, whitey.
 
2013-03-31 06:01:06 PM  

Notabunny: fta I don't have a big problem with this. Police departments have to make tough choices, and this is an example of a choice that's entirely defensible given the realities of the municipal budget.

If you want less crime, hire more crime fighters. If you don't want to hire crime fighters, be content with more crime.


Are you really stupid, or is that your schtick?
 
2013-03-31 06:02:04 PM  
ryansmartt.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-31 06:02:21 PM  
If corporations want to protect their goods, they can hire rent-a-cops. Real cops have enough to deal with, like speeders and marijuana smokers.
 
2013-03-31 06:03:12 PM  

dryknife: [ryansmartt.files.wordpress.com image 375x434]


Wahaha. On point.

Dumbass.
 
2013-03-31 06:06:51 PM  

Notabunny: fta I don't have a big problem with this. Police departments have to make tough choices, and this is an example of a choice that's entirely defensible given the realities of the municipal budget.

If you want less crime, hire more crime fighters. If you don't want to hire crime fighters, be content with more crime.


Oh fark off.

Police departments react to budget cuts the same way the government agencies do, by hurting the people as much as possible.

They cut patrol officers, detectives, and any 'mandatory' cops (the ones needed in order for things to stay open; you sometimes see this with parks or events).

They DO NOT, for example, cut down on motorcycle cops sitting around, cops doing idiotic things like curfew enforcement, liquor enforcement, etc.  nor do they put plans on hold to spend millions on overpriced radio and computer systems.

This is like California claiming their budgets problems forced them to close the beaches, yet they could somehow afford to pay numerous park staff to man the booths at ALL of them and turn people away, and had enough park rangers to patrol the beaches and evict any 'trespassers' as well.

Any sheriff who does this needs to be recalled, and any police chief needs to be removed from office.
 
2013-03-31 06:07:00 PM  
Is this like how the crime rate will go down if drugs are legalized? You know, since what used to be a crime isn't a crime anymore.
 
2013-03-31 06:09:37 PM  

LDM90: Is this like how the crime rate will go down if drugs are legalized? You know, since what used to be a crime isn't a crime anymore.


Different.  Legalizing drugs not only removes nonsense crimes from the books, it would also eliminate a lot of actual victimization crimes that only occur because of the black market that can only thrive under prohibition.
 
2013-03-31 06:10:24 PM  
citizens victims
 
2013-03-31 06:10:27 PM  

LDM90: Is this like how the crime rate will go down if drugs are legalized? You know, since what used to be a crime isn't a crime anymore.


It's more than just the drug using.  In a black market, there's no legal way to handle business disputes, so they often get handled with physical violence.
 
2013-03-31 06:11:29 PM  

pedrop357: Any sheriff who does this needs to be recalled, and any police chief needs to be removed from office.


You tell them, dongsauce.
 
2013-03-31 06:13:12 PM  
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 
2013-03-31 06:14:33 PM  
Ah, the politics of police.

To protect and serve (their own interests).
 
2013-03-31 06:16:03 PM  
In Oakland, no report will be filed for property crimes unless the victim is present when the police arrive.  No matter what time you call, the police will arrive at 4am.
 
2013-03-31 06:16:48 PM  

Snort: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.


Did you just coin that phrase, Shakesteer?
 
2013-03-31 06:18:27 PM  

jso2897: "Law enforcement" is just a very expensive form of welfare for the scared middle class. Grow a pair and learn to protect your pathetic heap of worthless possessions at your own expense, whitey.


Trolling, or just dim"?
 
2013-03-31 06:18:52 PM  
I may as well illustrate this thread right now:

wordinfo.info
 
2013-03-31 06:21:27 PM  
BarkingUnicorn,
I may as well illustrate this thread right now:


I fail to see what Indians cleaning an elephant have to do with this thread.
 
2013-03-31 06:22:43 PM  
#3.  They simply lose the paperwork on important cases.
 
2013-03-31 06:22:45 PM  
something something 'dereliction of duty' something
 
2013-03-31 06:24:42 PM  

Enemabag Jones: BarkingUnicorn,
I may as well illustrate this thread right now:

I fail to see what Indians cleaning an elephant have to do with this thread.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant#The_story
 
2013-03-31 06:24:43 PM  

Enemabag Jones: BarkingUnicorn,
I may as well illustrate this thread right now:

I fail to see what Indians cleaning an elephant have to do with this thread.


It's a thin blue line.
 
2013-03-31 06:27:42 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I may as well illustrate this thread right now:

[wordinfo.info image 450x272]


So that's why all those guys thought your mom had a big cock. It was a trunk!
 
2013-03-31 06:27:59 PM  
Or you could target the real causes of crime. But that would be too proactive, and Americans hate being proactive.
 
2013-03-31 06:31:20 PM  

jayphat: Taking a page straight out of the Chicago playbook of dealing with crime statistics. Murder involving a gun? Was it in a house? Then it's a domestic violence situation instead.


Yeah [citation needed] there chief. I'm not sure Rahm would like it very much if McCarthy did that.
 
2013-03-31 06:32:00 PM  
"Surrender" subby?

picture.fm
 
2013-03-31 06:32:14 PM  
911 operator who does not give a shiat... Oh and more important calls then a domestic and a knife threat involved

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=8312600
 
2013-03-31 06:35:56 PM  

deforge: it seems to be an epidemic in PD's everywhere

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to- re main-silent

check out the 2nd half of the podcast talking about NYPD and how they treated their own who tried to blow the whistle on this.


We imported it straight from Britain. It's how they fudged their numbers to show banning guns = less violent crime.

Example
 
2013-03-31 06:47:40 PM  
When I am working in DFW I see the signs warning shoppers to "lock their cars, hide their stuff," etc.

I bet if the signs read "OK to break thieves' legs at this shopping center" the crime might actually drop. I hate (HATE) the idea that non-criminals are resigned to deal with their community's trash not by actually *dealing* with it, but by cowering and hiding from it.
 
2013-03-31 06:53:07 PM  

redmid17: jayphat: Taking a page straight out of the Chicago playbook of dealing with crime statistics. Murder involving a gun? Was it in a house? Then it's a domestic violence situation instead.

Yeah [citation needed] there chief. I'm not sure Rahm would like it very much if McCarthy did that.


This was three or 4 years ago. Let me look it up.
 
2013-03-31 06:54:01 PM  
Ahh, I see they are taking a page out of Buffalo, NY's playbook. The lazy cops in that shiathole won't show up when you call 911. No police report, no crime stats.

Meanwhile, they wonder why all the productive homeowners and residents move out and why all the trash remains.

/never looked back
//Fark western NY
///Fark all of NY
////slashies
 
2013-03-31 07:00:22 PM  

James F. Campbell: Or you could target the real causes of crime. But that would be too proactive, and Americans hate being proactive.


Cops dont prevent crime.

They dont even stop ppl from speeding.

They just collect evidence after a crime had been committed....like writing a speeding ticket.


To collect and serve (their own interests) indeed.
 
2013-03-31 07:04:14 PM  
3. They turn out in droves at illegal "checkpoints" to cite ppl for having window tint.

Makes a good display to the stupid ppl who see the cops and think "See there...they are finding criminals" when what they are REALLY doing is holding the police version of a fundraiser.
 
2013-03-31 07:06:06 PM  

rich_mitch: jso2897: "Law enforcement" is just a very expensive form of welfare for the scared middle class. Grow a pair and learn to protect your pathetic heap of worthless possessions at your own expense, whitey.

Trolling, or just dim"?


Wait - you're saying there are people on Farkkk.com who aren't trolling?
Shiat, man - that never occurred to me.
But as far as being dim - of course - I'm as dumb as dogshiat.
So are you, or you wouldn't be here in the first place.
 
2013-03-31 07:11:56 PM  

rich_mitch: jso2897: "Law enforcement" is just a very expensive form of welfare for the scared middle class. Grow a pair and learn to protect your pathetic heap of worthless possessions at your own expense, whitey.

Trolling, or just dim"?


I think its clear who the dumbfark is...here's a hint: its not jso.

Cops arent paid to stop crime. They are paid to arrest those that commit said crime.

By definition, the crime has to have already occurred. Get it?

Cop friend of mine told me point blank: " NEVER forget...an officers entire job is to collect enough evidence against you to charge you with a crime, preferably one that puts you in jail."
 
2013-03-31 07:12:15 PM  
Is there some tradition of being an asshole on Easter I'm unaware of?
 
2013-03-31 07:16:43 PM  

Enemabag Jones: BarkingUnicorn,
I may as well illustrate this thread right now:

I fail to see what Indians cleaning an elephant have to do with this thread.


They are raping the elephant.
 
2013-03-31 07:21:25 PM  
Sounds like Denver. Wanna see crime? 11:30pm - 1:00am ANYWHERE on Colfax. 2 murders outside my building in the last year. No suspects. It doesn't help that they were both drug dealers. Or that the police station is two blocks away. need some company for the night? Colfax. Drugs? Colfax. Murder for hire? I'm sure you can find it on Colfax. One stop crime shopping.

/can't beat the rent
//just gotta keep from getting robbed/murdered
 
2013-03-31 07:23:54 PM  

Trance354: Sounds like Denver. Wanna see crime? 11:30pm - 1:00am ANYWHERE on Colfax. 2 murders outside my building in the last year. No suspects. It doesn't help that they were both drug dealers. Or that the police station is two blocks away. need some company for the night? Colfax. Drugs? Colfax. Murder for hire? I'm sure you can find it on Colfax. One stop crime shopping.

/can't beat the rent
//just gotta keep from getting robbed/murdered


Only two murders outside your bldg last year, and you call that crime? Pussy.
If you were any kind of citizen, you'd go out and waste a few motherf**kers your own self.
 
2013-03-31 07:30:16 PM  

fusillade762: Is there some tradition of being an asshole on Easter I'm unaware of?


Well, I'm nowhere near a free dinner or strip club so this will have to do.
 
2013-03-31 07:34:23 PM  

Porndip Poonpat: Snort: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Did you just coin that phrase, Shakesteer?


Yes I did. And if you use it, I'll sue you for copyright infringement.
 
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