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2013-03-31 04:21:09 PM  
4 votes:
And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.
2013-03-31 11:00:23 PM  
3 votes:

kettir: As I recall, in the episode of "The Supersizers" where they lived and ate the way the British did in the 50's, they found that for the "housewife" at least, there was so much more manual labor that people then could eat more and still not gain as much due to the extra physical exertion.  (They also found that in the 70's people engaged in far more physical activities for amusement, such as bicycling, running, swimming, handball, and so on.  Well duh, that was before internet and WOW and all that.)


sure this is true. but i cant imagine the delta between lifestyle in the 60-70s and now being more than 500 cal a day.
 
exercise helps, sure, but its really only a small fraction of why people are fat. 
 
its about diet, period.
 
people 50 or even 30 years ago didnt shop significantly differently from today; they went to their supermarket, bought their food, and ate it. but what people bought, and the amount of shiat that was in what people bought between then and now is vast.
 
i'm not making excuse or white knighting obesity; there's really no excuse, sorry... there's not.. but what i DO say and DO believe is that its much much easier now to "think you're doing it right" and still eat nutritiontally empty food.
 
there's many facets to american obesity:
 
1. easier/cheaper to buy BK and Mcd's than healthy food because of corn subsidies and other shiat in the food chain making it cheap
2. high fructose corn syrup in EVERYTHING
3. the american food industry deciding collectively that natural fats were bad and replacing them with sugar (look at "fat free yogurt" and all this other shiat)
 
so yeah its ahrder to eat well now that it was a generation ago, certainly harder than it was 2 generations ago. and a lot of it is not even the consumer's fault: its not their fault the chicken they buy at the store isnt a local raised / slaughtered chicken and natural; instead its been hormone fed slaughtered in arkansa by tyson and put on ice for 2k miles on a truck injected with water and broth so it doesnt putrify....
 
anyway.
 
stop eating fast food and drinking sodas. make veggies and salad the main course on a plate. and walk every day. and quite being the fat american.
2013-03-31 04:55:24 PM  
3 votes:
One thing about the fat people in this slideshow - chances are they were actually healthier compared to their modern counterparts. I mean, they ate actual food as opposed to the dollar menu at McDonald's and frozen pizzas dripping with ingredients no one can pronounce. I imagine that being fat from milk, bacon, and eggs is better than being fat from the frozen food aisle.
2013-03-31 04:17:15 PM  
3 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.


This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.
2013-03-31 03:36:12 PM  
3 votes:
Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.
2013-03-31 06:11:12 PM  
2 votes:

that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.


Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.
2013-03-31 05:31:47 PM  
2 votes:
Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.
2013-03-31 05:12:26 PM  
2 votes:

cptjeff: Oh, and blubber and curves are not the same thing. Please stop confusing the two.


Ha! Seriously. I've known more than a few fat (i.e. medically obese, not "pleasingly plump") girls who thought they really had something spectacular happening in the breast department, when all they had were enormous fleshy torpedoes that stared at their feet in the shower.
2013-03-31 04:49:31 PM  
2 votes:

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite. This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.

I believe a specialised appetite suppressant was approved by the FDA last year, but I wouldn't want to try it because not all the risks are known. I hit the 50 lb milestone this week going from 394 to 343 lbs since New Year's Day on a combination of lifestyle change and orlistat, so I wouldn't want to mess with something that's already working very well for me.



As an aside, I think that woman in 1950 was very brave to expose herself like that. It can't have been easy back then when women with her figure were less commonplace.
2013-03-31 02:45:35 PM  
2 votes:
2013-04-01 03:32:38 AM  
1 votes:
She was definitely overweight by today's standards -- of course, the horrendous dresses being pushed on her didn't help ("Looks like you're carrying a few extra pounds -- care to try a dress made of shiny fabric which will make you look every ounce of weight and more?") I also wonder what exactly a "sugar-free lemonade" is -- what kind of artificial sweeteners did they have in 1949? I'm assuming it was something like that, since an unsweetened lemonade wouldn't be very enjoyable. Props to her for posing for the series -- that couldn't have been easy. I hope things turned out well for her in her later life.
2013-04-01 12:40:49 AM  
1 votes:

Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.
2013-04-01 12:13:08 AM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: t3knomanser: that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.

Those things are like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball.


I want to give her tits two tiny caskets and give them a dignified burial.
 
 
But seriously. Chicks gotta calm down about the weight. I 'go out' with a girl about 5' 8" 160lbs, solid framed...did a lot of full contact muy tai and boxing in her 20's (she's 30's now). She always complains about the little pooch she developed from office life and no more fighting (it's the wine, I tell her) but she's still a freaking knockout. 
 
It just doesn't wash with a girl when you tell her that she can still be a few pounds over the vanity line and still be attractive.
2013-04-01 12:03:45 AM  
1 votes:

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Uuuhhh... It once was.. That's why we now have faces of meth and innumerable destroyed families..
2013-03-31 11:44:28 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

 
Given the amount of Adderall and other stimulants being prescribed today, one would think that we'd be THINNER today than we were 60+ years ago.
2013-03-31 10:50:11 PM  
1 votes:
As I recall, in the episode of "The Supersizers" where they lived and ate the way the British did in the 50's, they found that for the "housewife" at least, there was so much more manual labor that people then could eat more and still not gain as much due to the extra physical exertion.  (They also found that in the 70's people engaged in far more physical activities for amusement, such as bicycling, running, swimming, handball, and so on.  Well duh, that was before internet and WOW and all that.)
2013-03-31 10:14:53 PM  
1 votes:

cptjeff: Today, that final weight would be considered "an average normal body, perfectly fine and in no way fat, thankyouverymuchnowbuggeroff".


actually, depends on body composition-12-19% body fat is considered "athletic" for women 20-28% is considered "healthy", so if you have a female with little muscle tone, and a large amount of body fat, she'd not be healthy. Size or weight alone are not measurements of "health".

I'm 144 pounds and 23% body fat, working with a personal trainer to get down to 20% or lower(started at 27% 6 weeks ago), my boss is 120 pounds and has zero muscle tone, and no endurance. I can run 12 minute miles currently-after not having run in over 12 years, and I'm doing strength training and a lot of weight training, my boss does nothing but cardio(strength training scares her because adding muscle adds weight), and only for 30 minutes 2x a week. I'm at the gym 4-5x a week, and starting running outside the gym 2x a week. Which of us is "healthy"?
2013-03-31 08:58:54 PM  
1 votes:

cptjeff: theorellior: LOL. Two eggs a day. Looks like the Egg Council got to that nutritionist.

Don't forget the pint of milk and Potato. And make sure you get your daily allocation of butter, citizen.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=f&rct=j&url=http://www.amazon.com/Why- We -Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259&q=&esrc=s&ei=WttYUefNE8TB0QGmioDIDg&usg=A FQjCNHv9c5YR_Ftp7gawzLsdFFyaF-mrg

It's more likely that the potato was making her fat than the milk and butter. This book is amazing. Its principles work.
2013-03-31 07:12:38 PM  
1 votes:
5/22 scripts. Thanks Time.com for ruining my Internet experience. I'll pass.

/assholes
2013-03-31 06:20:24 PM  
1 votes:
Interesting photos.

Some time ago I remember reading the annual "fattest state in the Union" type article where they say the percentage of obese people per state (I think it's Mississippi?) and what caught my eye was the observation that the leanest state, Colorado, would have been the fattest state just a decade prior.

I weep for our society.
2013-03-31 06:20:07 PM  
1 votes:

that was my nickname in highschool: Has anyone ever told you that you have a way with words?


Not my words.
2013-03-31 05:54:17 PM  
1 votes:

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Back then, it was - dextroamphetamine, or Dexedrine, was popularly prescribed for weight loss. Turned out the side effects were much worse than obesity.
2013-03-31 05:20:31 PM  
1 votes:

Generation_D: Deslided for those of you too fat and lazy to click on a slide show. Me, I would, but I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes.


Thanks for that. Always appreciated.

thisispete: As an aside, I think that woman in 1950 was very brave to expose herself like that. It can't have been easy back then when women with her figure were less commonplace.


Yeah, I had the same thought while going through those pics. Props to Dorothy Bradley.
2013-03-31 04:57:36 PM  
1 votes:

phaseolus: "Embarrassed at shop because she wears a size 40..."


Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?

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Probably a 22W or so, just eyeballing it. What's interesting to me is that if you look at the picture where she is measuring her waist, it's still only around 31". She carried a  lot of weight in her chest and hips.
2013-03-31 04:57:09 PM  
1 votes:

dickfreckle: One thing about the fat people in this slideshow - chances are they were actually healthier compared to their modern counterparts. I mean, they ate actual food as opposed to the dollar menu at McDonald's and frozen pizzas dripping with ingredients no one can pronounce. I imagine that being fat from milk, bacon, and eggs is better than being fat from the frozen food aisle.


Ish.  Remember, for most of the 1940s butter and sugar were rarer commodities.
2013-03-31 04:50:14 PM  
1 votes:

spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.


Hey, I worked at that zoo when I was a kid! I went to USC and it was how I paid for my Ramen noodles before learning how to tend bar

/really nice zoo for such an unremarkable town
//do they still have the polar bear observatory and sea lion feedings?
2013-03-31 04:45:16 PM  
1 votes:

stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.


Not so much. She would have been considered overweight then, she was just less overweight than she had been. "Attractive" is used in comparison to her past self, not broader standards.

Today, that final weight would be considered "an average normal body, perfectly fine and in no way fat, thankyouverymuchnowbuggeroff".
2013-03-31 04:41:19 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: LOL. Two eggs a day. Looks like the Egg Council got to that nutritionist.


Don't forget the pint of milk and Potato. And make sure you get your daily allocation of butter, citizen.

phaseolus: Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?


20ish?


vossiewulf: cretinbob: Because no one was fat before 1950

I remember one chubby kid in my entire elementary school in the early 70s, and he wouldn't even qualify as obese today. OTOH from what I hear from women today, the subject of this article isn't obese, she's perfectly normal and healthy and anyone who thinks otherwise should feel very bad.


JHFC, this. You're fat. Fatty fat fat fat. It's not healthy just because everybody else is fat. "Average" is not some meaningful signifier.

It also always astonishes me when men (or other women) see a picture of a women who's actually in shape and proclaim that she needs to be fatter. Seriously?

Oh, and blubber and curves are not the same thing. Please stop confusing the two.
2013-03-31 04:15:25 PM  
1 votes:
newsimg.bbc.co.uk
2013-03-31 03:51:07 PM  
1 votes:
I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.
2013-03-31 03:49:01 PM  
1 votes:
"Embarrassed at shop because she wears a size 40..."


Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?

timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com
2013-03-31 03:26:01 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: Because no one was fat before 1950


I remember one chubby kid in my entire elementary school in the early 70s, and he wouldn't even qualify as obese today. OTOH from what I hear from women today, the subject of this article isn't obese, she's perfectly normal and healthy and anyone who thinks otherwise should feel very bad.
2013-03-31 02:45:42 PM  
1 votes:
hw-static.worldstarhiphop.com

What obesity looks like now
2013-03-31 01:37:04 PM  
1 votes:
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