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2013-03-31 01:37:04 PM  
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2013-03-31 02:45:35 PM  
 
2013-03-31 02:45:42 PM  
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What obesity looks like now
 
2013-03-31 02:53:11 PM  
Because no one was fat before 1950
 
2013-03-31 03:26:01 PM  

cretinbob: Because no one was fat before 1950


I remember one chubby kid in my entire elementary school in the early 70s, and he wouldn't even qualify as obese today. OTOH from what I hear from women today, the subject of this article isn't obese, she's perfectly normal and healthy and anyone who thinks otherwise should feel very bad.
 
2013-03-31 03:27:30 PM  
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2013-03-31 03:36:12 PM  
Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.
 
2013-03-31 03:42:36 PM  
LOL. Two eggs a day. Looks like the Egg Council got to that nutritionist.
 
2013-03-31 03:49:01 PM  
"Embarrassed at shop because she wears a size 40..."


Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?

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2013-03-31 03:51:07 PM  
I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.
 
2013-03-31 04:06:20 PM  
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I can't find it, but can someone post the pic of that bigger girl dancing weird in the club (the one with her leg way up).
 
2013-03-31 04:15:25 PM  
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2013-03-31 04:17:15 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.


This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.
 
2013-03-31 04:19:20 PM  
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2013-03-31 04:21:09 PM  
And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.
 
2013-03-31 04:24:18 PM  

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Opiates and speed?

what symptoms do I need to fake?
 
2013-03-31 04:24:32 PM  

OBBN: I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Maybe it's because of that whole addiction thing?
 
2013-03-31 04:25:07 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: Opiates and speed?


John Belushi shakes his head sadly.
 
2013-03-31 04:41:19 PM  

theorellior: LOL. Two eggs a day. Looks like the Egg Council got to that nutritionist.


Don't forget the pint of milk and Potato. And make sure you get your daily allocation of butter, citizen.

phaseolus: Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?


20ish?


vossiewulf: cretinbob: Because no one was fat before 1950

I remember one chubby kid in my entire elementary school in the early 70s, and he wouldn't even qualify as obese today. OTOH from what I hear from women today, the subject of this article isn't obese, she's perfectly normal and healthy and anyone who thinks otherwise should feel very bad.


JHFC, this. You're fat. Fatty fat fat fat. It's not healthy just because everybody else is fat. "Average" is not some meaningful signifier.

It also always astonishes me when men (or other women) see a picture of a women who's actually in shape and proclaim that she needs to be fatter. Seriously?

Oh, and blubber and curves are not the same thing. Please stop confusing the two.
 
2013-03-31 04:45:16 PM  

stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.


Not so much. She would have been considered overweight then, she was just less overweight than she had been. "Attractive" is used in comparison to her past self, not broader standards.

Today, that final weight would be considered "an average normal body, perfectly fine and in no way fat, thankyouverymuchnowbuggeroff".
 
2013-03-31 04:49:31 PM  

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite. This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.

I believe a specialised appetite suppressant was approved by the FDA last year, but I wouldn't want to try it because not all the risks are known. I hit the 50 lb milestone this week going from 394 to 343 lbs since New Year's Day on a combination of lifestyle change and orlistat, so I wouldn't want to mess with something that's already working very well for me.



As an aside, I think that woman in 1950 was very brave to expose herself like that. It can't have been easy back then when women with her figure were less commonplace.
 
2013-03-31 04:50:14 PM  

spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.


Hey, I worked at that zoo when I was a kid! I went to USC and it was how I paid for my Ramen noodles before learning how to tend bar

/really nice zoo for such an unremarkable town
//do they still have the polar bear observatory and sea lion feedings?
 
2013-03-31 04:55:24 PM  
One thing about the fat people in this slideshow - chances are they were actually healthier compared to their modern counterparts. I mean, they ate actual food as opposed to the dollar menu at McDonald's and frozen pizzas dripping with ingredients no one can pronounce. I imagine that being fat from milk, bacon, and eggs is better than being fat from the frozen food aisle.
 
2013-03-31 04:57:09 PM  

dickfreckle: One thing about the fat people in this slideshow - chances are they were actually healthier compared to their modern counterparts. I mean, they ate actual food as opposed to the dollar menu at McDonald's and frozen pizzas dripping with ingredients no one can pronounce. I imagine that being fat from milk, bacon, and eggs is better than being fat from the frozen food aisle.


Ish.  Remember, for most of the 1940s butter and sugar were rarer commodities.
 
2013-03-31 04:57:36 PM  

phaseolus: "Embarrassed at shop because she wears a size 40..."


Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?

[timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com image 361x492]


Probably a 22W or so, just eyeballing it. What's interesting to me is that if you look at the picture where she is measuring her waist, it's still only around 31". She carried a  lot of weight in her chest and hips.
 
2013-03-31 05:12:26 PM  

cptjeff: Oh, and blubber and curves are not the same thing. Please stop confusing the two.


Ha! Seriously. I've known more than a few fat (i.e. medically obese, not "pleasingly plump") girls who thought they really had something spectacular happening in the breast department, when all they had were enormous fleshy torpedoes that stared at their feet in the shower.
 
2013-03-31 05:20:31 PM  

Generation_D: Deslided for those of you too fat and lazy to click on a slide show. Me, I would, but I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes.


Thanks for that. Always appreciated.

thisispete: As an aside, I think that woman in 1950 was very brave to expose herself like that. It can't have been easy back then when women with her figure were less commonplace.


Yeah, I had the same thought while going through those pics. Props to Dorothy Bradley.
 
2013-03-31 05:31:47 PM  
Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.
 
2013-03-31 05:51:36 PM  

Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.



The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

I'm not judging.  It's not up to me what any woman does with/to her body.  But they make me sad personally.
 
2013-03-31 05:54:17 PM  

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Back then, it was - dextroamphetamine, or Dexedrine, was popularly prescribed for weight loss. Turned out the side effects were much worse than obesity.
 
2013-03-31 06:11:12 PM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.


Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.
 
2013-03-31 06:12:35 PM  

t3knomanser: Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.



Has anyone ever told you that you have a way with words?
 
2013-03-31 06:19:15 PM  

t3knomanser: that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.


Those things are like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball.
 
2013-03-31 06:20:07 PM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Has anyone ever told you that you have a way with words?


Not my words.
 
2013-03-31 06:20:24 PM  
Interesting photos.

Some time ago I remember reading the annual "fattest state in the Union" type article where they say the percentage of obese people per state (I think it's Mississippi?) and what caught my eye was the observation that the leanest state, Colorado, would have been the fattest state just a decade prior.

I weep for our society.
 
2013-03-31 06:32:55 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 450x220]


This. :D  (Why, I already HAVE an Adipose Complex...little babby Adiposes are CUTE :D)

/besides, needed something cute to take my mind off the nightmare fuel that erupted in the U of L/Duke game
 
2013-03-31 06:46:19 PM  

Mad_Radhu: t3knomanser: that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.

Those things are like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball.


It's like she put a dollar's worth of change into some old socks and then taped them to her chest.
 
2013-03-31 06:58:06 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: FirstNationalBastard: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 450x220]

This. :D  (Why, I already HAVE an Adipose Complex...little babby Adiposes are CUTE :D)

/besides, needed something cute to take my mind off the nightmare fuel that erupted in the U of L/Duke game




Here ya go
.
 
2013-03-31 07:12:38 PM  
5/22 scripts. Thanks Time.com for ruining my Internet experience. I'll pass.

/assholes
 
2013-03-31 07:43:31 PM  

phaseolus: "Embarrassed at shop because she wears a size 40..."


Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?

[timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com image 361x492]


Ignoring the (very common) practice of size deflation, where companies lie about what size the clothes are to make women feel better about buying them, today's women's sizes are inches-20. So, a woman who wears a 36/30 Levi's is theoretically a size 16, as long as she's proportionate to her waist.
 
2013-03-31 08:02:10 PM  
They need an after swimsuit picture so I can properly objectify her, but the last pic, yeah, I'd talk to her.
 
2013-03-31 08:47:06 PM  

stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.


Are you high?
 
2013-03-31 08:52:27 PM  

cretinbob: Because no one not as many people were  was fat before 1950


FTFY
 
2013-03-31 08:58:54 PM  

cptjeff: theorellior: LOL. Two eggs a day. Looks like the Egg Council got to that nutritionist.

Don't forget the pint of milk and Potato. And make sure you get your daily allocation of butter, citizen.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=f&rct=j&url=http://www.amazon.com/Why- We -Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259&q=&esrc=s&ei=WttYUefNE8TB0QGmioDIDg&usg=A FQjCNHv9c5YR_Ftp7gawzLsdFFyaF-mrg

It's more likely that the potato was making her fat than the milk and butter. This book is amazing. Its principles work.
 
2013-03-31 09:04:24 PM  

spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.


Were you there for the Brunch they served for Easter as well?
 
2013-03-31 09:13:37 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.

Are you high?


I think he's talking about the idealized "perfect" woman's body as given to us by the modern beauty magazines/fashion industry these days and not the reality on the ground
 
2013-03-31 09:39:58 PM  

dickfreckle: spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.

Hey, I worked at that zoo when I was a kid! I went to USC and it was how I paid for my Ramen noodles before learning how to tend bar

/really nice zoo for such an unremarkable town
//do they still have the polar bear observatory and sea lion feedings?


I didn't see them, although we may have skipped a bit.
 
2013-03-31 09:40:41 PM  

goodolboy71: spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.

Were you there for the Brunch they served for Easter as well?


No, we went to Bombay Grill for lunch.
 
2013-03-31 10:14:53 PM  

cptjeff: Today, that final weight would be considered "an average normal body, perfectly fine and in no way fat, thankyouverymuchnowbuggeroff".


actually, depends on body composition-12-19% body fat is considered "athletic" for women 20-28% is considered "healthy", so if you have a female with little muscle tone, and a large amount of body fat, she'd not be healthy. Size or weight alone are not measurements of "health".

I'm 144 pounds and 23% body fat, working with a personal trainer to get down to 20% or lower(started at 27% 6 weeks ago), my boss is 120 pounds and has zero muscle tone, and no endurance. I can run 12 minute miles currently-after not having run in over 12 years, and I'm doing strength training and a lot of weight training, my boss does nothing but cardio(strength training scares her because adding muscle adds weight), and only for 30 minutes 2x a week. I'm at the gym 4-5x a week, and starting running outside the gym 2x a week. Which of us is "healthy"?
 
2013-03-31 10:25:34 PM  

Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


likely from PCOS(1 out of 20 women are thought to have it)-which causes higher levels of testosterone(blocking breast development), and insulin resistance(causing obesity).
 
2013-03-31 10:39:40 PM  

spigi: goodolboy71: spigi: I was Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia SC this morning.  In the gorilla enclosure there was a sign saying that the average male gorilla weighed about 400lbs and the average female about 200lbs.  In other words, about the same as an average American.

Were you there for the Brunch they served for Easter as well?

No, we went to Bombay Grill for lunch.


Only asking cause we were there today for the brunch......wife loves the zoo.


/...ok so do I, whats not to like about Meerkats and kangaroos
 
kab
2013-03-31 10:47:32 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.

Are you high?


You must be new here.  At least half the (physically flawless) denizens of the entertainment tab would call her overweight.
 
2013-03-31 10:50:11 PM  
As I recall, in the episode of "The Supersizers" where they lived and ate the way the British did in the 50's, they found that for the "housewife" at least, there was so much more manual labor that people then could eat more and still not gain as much due to the extra physical exertion.  (They also found that in the 70's people engaged in far more physical activities for amusement, such as bicycling, running, swimming, handball, and so on.  Well duh, that was before internet and WOW and all that.)
 
2013-03-31 11:00:23 PM  

kettir: As I recall, in the episode of "The Supersizers" where they lived and ate the way the British did in the 50's, they found that for the "housewife" at least, there was so much more manual labor that people then could eat more and still not gain as much due to the extra physical exertion.  (They also found that in the 70's people engaged in far more physical activities for amusement, such as bicycling, running, swimming, handball, and so on.  Well duh, that was before internet and WOW and all that.)


sure this is true. but i cant imagine the delta between lifestyle in the 60-70s and now being more than 500 cal a day.
 
exercise helps, sure, but its really only a small fraction of why people are fat. 
 
its about diet, period.
 
people 50 or even 30 years ago didnt shop significantly differently from today; they went to their supermarket, bought their food, and ate it. but what people bought, and the amount of shiat that was in what people bought between then and now is vast.
 
i'm not making excuse or white knighting obesity; there's really no excuse, sorry... there's not.. but what i DO say and DO believe is that its much much easier now to "think you're doing it right" and still eat nutritiontally empty food.
 
there's many facets to american obesity:
 
1. easier/cheaper to buy BK and Mcd's than healthy food because of corn subsidies and other shiat in the food chain making it cheap
2. high fructose corn syrup in EVERYTHING
3. the american food industry deciding collectively that natural fats were bad and replacing them with sugar (look at "fat free yogurt" and all this other shiat)
 
so yeah its ahrder to eat well now that it was a generation ago, certainly harder than it was 2 generations ago. and a lot of it is not even the consumer's fault: its not their fault the chicken they buy at the store isnt a local raised / slaughtered chicken and natural; instead its been hormone fed slaughtered in arkansa by tyson and put on ice for 2k miles on a truck injected with water and broth so it doesnt putrify....
 
anyway.
 
stop eating fast food and drinking sodas. make veggies and salad the main course on a plate. and walk every day. and quite being the fat american.
 
2013-03-31 11:08:24 PM  
goodolboy71:

/...ok so do I, whats not to like about Meerkats and kangaroos
 
The GF and I were thinking it would pretty easy to make off with a Meerkat or two!
 
2013-03-31 11:44:28 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

 
Given the amount of Adderall and other stimulants being prescribed today, one would think that we'd be THINNER today than we were 60+ years ago.
 
2013-04-01 12:03:45 AM  

OBBN: Mad_Radhu: Of course some people weren't obese back then because they were smoking and hopped up in amphetamines to curb their appetite.

This. I'm currently taking amphetamine prescribed by my doctor to fight lethargy brought on by my use of morphine for pain. One side effect is I have no appetite. I've list thirty pounds in 4 months without even trying. I can't believe amphetamine isn't used for weight loss by doctors.


Uuuhhh... It once was.. That's why we now have faces of meth and innumerable destroyed families..
 
2013-04-01 12:05:54 AM  
The problem is the skinny chick has spindly shapeless legs like a man's. That's not better.
 
2013-04-01 12:09:21 AM  

quatchi: Shakin_Haitian: stevetherobot: And yet, the "slender" women in the swimsuit pictures and the subject herself  in the "Now down to 155 pounds, an attractive Dorothy dances at Navy Ball" picture would be considered overweight today.

Are you high?

I think he's talking about the idealized "perfect" woman's body as given to us by the modern beauty magazines/fashion industry these days and not the reality on the ground


The derp is strong with you. You think that modern industry does anything but play on human instinct to sell product? The ideas are real, and beneficial, they just exploit them for profit, get it already dumbshiats.
 
2013-04-01 12:13:08 AM  

Mad_Radhu: t3knomanser: that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.

Those things are like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball.


I want to give her tits two tiny caskets and give them a dignified burial.
 
 
But seriously. Chicks gotta calm down about the weight. I 'go out' with a girl about 5' 8" 160lbs, solid framed...did a lot of full contact muy tai and boxing in her 20's (she's 30's now). She always complains about the little pooch she developed from office life and no more fighting (it's the wine, I tell her) but she's still a freaking knockout. 
 
It just doesn't wash with a girl when you tell her that she can still be a few pounds over the vanity line and still be attractive.
 
2013-04-01 12:32:12 AM  

knowless: The derp is strong with you. You think that modern industry does anything but play on human instinct to sell product? The ideas are real, and beneficial, they just exploit them for profit, get it already dumbshiats.


Are you drunk or just stupid? Both? Where the hell did all that come from? It sure the hell wasn't my post.
 
2013-04-01 12:40:49 AM  

Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.
 
2013-04-01 01:03:43 AM  

KrispyKritter: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.

a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.


Yes, because coddling fat people is working out so well for them...
 
2013-04-01 01:06:59 AM  

KrispyKritter: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.

a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.


There will always be ideas that run contrary to or actively attack our ego.  To blame the originator or distributor of said ideas for the failings of the recipient who then acts on it is a fallacy.
 
People should learn to determine their own norms, and set up their own acceptable standards.  If they give themselves a neurological condition based on others' standards, they are the ones primarily responsible.
 
People like you who coddle the people who cave to misinformed opinions are part of the problem.
 
2013-04-01 01:46:02 AM  

Sandwyrm: KrispyKritter: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.

a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.

There will always be ideas that run contrary to or actively attack our ego.  To blame the originator or distributor of said ideas for the failings of the recipient who then acts on it is a fallacy.
 
People should learn to determine their own norms, and set up their own acceptable standards.  If they give themselves a neurological condition based on others' standards, they are the ones primarily responsible.
 
People like you who coddle the people who cave to misinformed opinions are part of the problem.


And this is precisely why I am morally opposed to the Pitty Fark.
 
2013-04-01 02:11:16 AM  

Wittenberg Dropout: Sandwyrm: KrispyKritter: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.

a sadder thing is people like you who make women feel bad about themselves and wind up overeating.

There will always be ideas that run contrary to or actively attack our ego.  To blame the originator or distributor of said ideas for the failings of the recipient who then acts on it is a fallacy.
 
People should learn to determine their own norms, and set up their own acceptable standards.  If they give themselves a neurological condition based on others' standards, they are the ones primarily responsible.
 
People like you who coddle the people who cave to misinformed opinions are part of the problem.

And this is precisely why I am morally opposed to the Pitty Fark.


God I love this website sometimes....
 
2013-04-01 03:32:38 AM  
She was definitely overweight by today's standards -- of course, the horrendous dresses being pushed on her didn't help ("Looks like you're carrying a few extra pounds -- care to try a dress made of shiny fabric which will make you look every ounce of weight and more?") I also wonder what exactly a "sugar-free lemonade" is -- what kind of artificial sweeteners did they have in 1949? I'm assuming it was something like that, since an unsweetened lemonade wouldn't be very enjoyable. Props to her for posing for the series -- that couldn't have been easy. I hope things turned out well for her in her later life.
 
2013-04-01 04:13:34 AM  
s23.postimg.org
 
I didn't know Bill Murray did doctor-fetish 'Chubby Stag' in the 50s.
 
/The more you know
 
2013-04-01 07:01:27 AM  

Wittenberg Dropout: she's still a freaking knockout

 
What you did there...
 
My wife complains that she's 15#s up from when we married, as if those pounds have made her even the slightest bit less attractive.  I tell her I've gained 20, but she dismisses it saying that it looks good on me.  But it somehow can't look good on her?
 
2013-04-01 07:30:35 AM  

BlaqueKatt: cptjeff: Today, that final weight would be considered "an average normal body, perfectly fine and in no way fat, thankyouverymuchnowbuggeroff".

actually, depends on body composition-12-19% body fat is considered "athletic" for women 20-28% is considered "healthy", so if you have a female with little muscle tone, and a large amount of body fat, she'd not be healthy. Size or weight alone are not measurements of "health".

I'm 144 pounds and 23% body fat, working with a personal trainer to get down to 20% or lower(started at 27% 6 weeks ago), my boss is 120 pounds and has zero muscle tone, and no endurance. I can run 12 minute miles currently-after not having run in over 12 years, and I'm doing strength training and a lot of weight training, my boss does nothing but cardio(strength training scares her because adding muscle adds weight), and only for 30 minutes 2x a week. I'm at the gym 4-5x a week, and starting running outside the gym 2x a week. Which of us is "healthy"?


The one that doesn't have cancer.
 
Weight isn't the best indicator of health.  Physical fitness and body composition might be a *better* indicator than just weight - but it's far from perfect.
 
2013-04-01 08:07:33 AM  

Father_Jack: so yeah its ahrder to eat well now that it was a generation ago, certainly harder than it was 2 generations ago. and a lot of it is not even the consumer's fault: its not their fault the chicken they buy at the store isnt a local raised / slaughtered chicken and natural; instead its been hormone fed slaughtered in arkansa by tyson and put on ice for 2k miles on a truck injected with water and broth so it doesnt putrify....


It is their fault when there's a direct referendum on the ballot about disclosing what's in food and they vote it down.
 
2013-04-01 08:18:11 AM  
The most noticeable thing to me was the difference in women's sizing. Obviously vanity sizing has affected this, but her size 44 then would probably be a 16-18 now...which is a big difference between a size 12 turning into a size 6.

/not fat
//anymore
 
2013-04-01 01:25:14 PM  

UNC_Samurai: It is their fault when there's a direct referendum on the ballot about disclosing what's in food and they vote it down.


Uh, you think GMO foods are causing people to get fat?
 
2013-04-01 01:29:18 PM  

Philip J. Frylock: The most noticeable thing to me was the difference in women's sizing. Obviously vanity sizing has affected this, but her size 44 then would probably be a 16-18 now...which is a big difference between a size 12 turning into a size 6.

/not fat
//anymore


What does a 44 in today's sizing look like?
 
2013-04-01 02:32:16 PM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: she's still a freaking knockout. 

 
What you did there...
 
My wife complains that she's 15#s up from when we married, as if those pounds have made her even the slightest bit less attractive.  I tell her I've gained 20, but she dismisses it saying that it looks good on me.  But it somehow can't look good on her?


Body Image is a strange thing, ain't it?

I don't presume to understand how it works and I never thought being a middle-aged man would have any advantages other than getting prompt service at a dive bar. But the extra years of experience greatly outweigh the odd extra pounds. 

Here's one to grow on that might shed some light on the whole deal. The real pneumatic psycho sex kittens out there want to be reminded of their pops when you slide over to buy them a drink, not their little brother (run for your life from the ones that are into little brother). I think that's where the body image disconnect begins and it's a scary thing to think that a person's perception can be so distorted.

But hey, it's pretty useful for an out of town shag now and then.
 
2013-04-01 02:43:59 PM  

beer4breakfast: UNC_Samurai: It is their fault when there's a direct referendum on the ballot about disclosing what's in food and they vote it down.

Uh, you think GMO foods are causing people to get fat?


I don't think that GMO significantly contributes to the obesity epidemic, but there are a number of potential harmful effects.  The point I was trying to make was, we as food consumers have willingly surrendered a lot of decisions about the food we eat to various stages of the production chain - growers, manufacturers, grocery stores, restaurants, etc.  The GMO labeling bill was not a form of restriction on sales, it was merely a requirement for disclosure.  And Prop 37 was likely to pass until the food industries with large stakes in GMO food funneled a lot of money into misinformation campaigns in the state.  Unfortunately, the voters didn't see through it.
 
2013-04-01 03:10:40 PM  

Arachnophobe: Mad_Radhu: t3knomanser: that was my nickname in highschool: Wittenberg Dropout: Saddest thing in the world is a fat chick with no tits.


The saddest thing in the world is fake tits on any woman.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter-bra.

Those things are like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball.

It's like she put a dollar's worth of change into some old socks and then taped them to her chest.


Pudding in pantyhose.
 
2013-04-01 08:17:28 PM  

RenownedCurator: She was definitely overweight by today's standards -- of course, the horrendous dresses being pushed on her didn't help ("Looks like you're carrying a few extra pounds -- care to try a dress made of shiny fabric which will make you look every ounce of weight and more?") I also wonder what exactly a "sugar-free lemonade" is -- what kind of artificial sweeteners did they have in 1949? I'm assuming it was something like that, since an unsweetened lemonade wouldn't be very enjoyable. Props to her for posing for the series -- that couldn't have been easy. I hope things turned out well for her in her later life.


In all seriousness, they DID have dietetic sweeteners (usually intended for diabetics more than dieters) in the late 40s...saccharin was known and used (and FDA-licensed) as a sugar substitute at that period.  (Interestingly, saccharin's popularity started not as a sweetener for dieters or diabetics...but as a sugar substitute that was free of rationing during World War II (when sugar was severely rationed).)

Still, though, if you've ever had saccharin lemonade...you'll be thankful for Splenda :D

(Alas, she was a very few years too early for cyclamates, which are no longer legal in the US due to being one of those substances that tends to be carcinogenic in rats...due to some rat-specific bits of metabolism.  Saccharin ALMOST got banned for the same reason, and the only reason it wasn't is because aspartame had not yet been approved by the FDA--yes, there's a reason the approval got shoved through for aspartame DamnQuick.  Rather wish they HAD done human trials with aspartame which probably would have shown it's a fairly common migraine trigger, but it's understandable that they don't normally test food additives for "may cause migraines in susceptible population".)
 
2013-04-02 05:53:05 AM  

phaseolus: Does a size 40 even exist anymore? What would this dress in tfa's slideshow picture be in today's sizes?


That would probably be a size 20 or so. Maybe 18 in some stores, 22 in other stores. Don't ask how I know this.
 
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