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2013-03-31 01:17:37 PM  
i970.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-31 01:30:15 PM  
DO IT, FA--- uh, CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS
 
2013-03-31 01:30:48 PM  
Better yet, leave the country. Take your followers with you. That will really show us

/do it, douchebags
 
2013-03-31 01:37:21 PM  
i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-31 01:53:53 PM  
"And it's not because there's an anti-homosexual mood, and nobody's homophobic that I know of, but many of us, and I would consider myself included, base our standards not on the latest Washington Post poll, but on an objective standard, not a subjective standard."

How cute.  Huckabee thinks the Bible is an objective standard.
 
2013-03-31 01:57:28 PM  
"Let me say to my party: If you bail out on this issue, I will leave the party and I will take as many people as I possibly can."

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lawd split ya.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Get your God-bothering asses out of politics.

They never belonged there in the first place.
 
2013-03-31 02:03:10 PM  
Gosh, that one dude with the red equal sign for his facebook is really spamming the comments.
 
2013-03-31 02:03:43 PM  
If there was ever a moment for the word "Butthurt" to shine, this is it.
 
2013-03-31 02:07:15 PM  

nmrsnr: DO IT, FA--- uh, CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS


Who says they're not both?
 
2013-03-31 02:07:56 PM  
I don't get how that could be a "threat"

/I mean, this may be just what the Republicans need to scrape the Evangelicals off their shoe and save themselves
 
2013-03-31 02:11:27 PM  
Here's a little story from history for you, right wingers.  In 1948, Harry Truman proposed a series of civil rights initiatives, the most controversial of which was a proposal to integrate the military.  It bogged down in Congress and had no chance to pass.

But a bunch of conservative Democrats got all butthurt about it anyway and split off to form the States Rights' Party, better known as the Dixiecrats.  And Truman, no longer required to cater to them because they were now actively campaigning against him, integrated the military by an executive order.

So the lesson here is this, teabaggers: if you split off the Republican party over these social issues, they'll just say "You know what, hell with it, we don't give a damn about gay marriage anyway."  And your position is marginalized and ignored.

Starting a third party has always been a terrible way to try to get your point across in this system.
 
2013-03-31 02:25:02 PM  
ct.fra.bz
 
2013-03-31 02:29:39 PM  
And nothing of value was lost......
 
2013-03-31 02:31:48 PM  
Social conservatives Mike Huckabee, Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer are threatening to leave the Republican Party if it softens its stance against gay marriage.

So what they're saying is they'd prefer something harder. A lot harder.
 
2013-03-31 02:32:02 PM  
Hoping they start a nationwide third party, who takes about half of the GOP votes in every congressional district.
How many non-democrats would be left in congress?
 
2013-03-31 02:33:16 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't get how that could be a "threat"

/I mean, this may be just what the Republicans need to scrape the Evangelicals off their shoe and save themselves


If they get rid of/lose the evangelicals what will they have left? Low taxes and guns? They've lost defense/foreign policy already.
 
2013-03-31 02:33:35 PM  
Time to go Third Party guys. Do it!
 
2013-03-31 02:34:47 PM  
Done in one.
 
2013-03-31 02:34:55 PM  
How much longer before a red state tries to legalize rape? For some bizarre reason I think these guys would support it and then lamely attempt to back up their idiotic idea with the Bible.
 
2013-03-31 02:36:58 PM  
2 out of these 3 are closet gays.

GUESS WHICH TWO!
 
2013-03-31 02:39:06 PM  
I love the "we aren't homophobic, but" line.

We can put that in the quote hall of fame with "I'm not racist, but" and "you're a nice guy, but"
 
2013-03-31 02:39:12 PM  
"If the RNC abandons marriage, evangelicals will either sit the elections out completely, or move to create a third party. Either option puts Republicans on the path to a permanent minority."

Party before country. There's a shocker!
 
2013-03-31 02:39:17 PM  
Good. This country needs two political parties, not a political party and a religion.
 
2013-03-31 02:39:31 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Gosh, that one dude with the red equal sign for his facebook is really spamming the comments.


I have a dummy facebook account and if I comment on a link, it never shows up, even if I try to click through all the links.  I think certain accounts pay to get their opinions labeled as "top commenter" too.
 
2013-03-31 02:41:24 PM  
President Obama allowed his dog to be a rabbit. Just because he was born a dog doesn't mean he can't be a rabbit.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-31 02:42:17 PM  

Kome: Social conservatives Mike Huckabee, Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer are threatening to leave the Republican Party if it softens its stance against gay marriage.

So what they're saying is they'd prefer something harder. A lot harder.


A firm grip on the issues balanced with a throbbing passion for America of yesteryear slowly building up in an explosion of patriotism that can never be wiped off our collective faces.
 
2013-03-31 02:42:40 PM  
So long, biatches!  Don't let the tent flap hit your ass on the way out!
 
2013-03-31 02:44:32 PM  
Awesome. Now we'll be able to pick-out who all of the closeted gays in the GOP are by seeing which ones leave because their party isn't hating gays enough.
 
2013-03-31 02:45:32 PM  
I called this earlier in the thread about rush abandoning the gay marriage fight.

The gauntlet has been thrown down and the GOP has to figure out how to respond.

If the religious right take a powder, the GOP is finished for a long while.
 
2013-03-31 02:45:42 PM  
So, they're planning to become Fark Independents, eh?
 
2013-03-31 02:47:19 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't get how that could be a "threat"

/I mean, this may be just what the Republicans need to scrape the Evangelicals off their shoe and save themselves


Do you think that many people might actually like the fiscal conservatism of the GOP, but vote Democratic because of social issues that impact themselves or a loved one?

What I mean is, do you think that if both parties can agree on social issues like abortion and gay marriage in the same way they now agree with women's suffrage and (at least on paper) desegregation due to changing cultural viewpoints, then the GOP could survive based on its other differences?
 
2013-03-31 02:48:24 PM  

Granny_Panties: How much longer before a red state tries to legalize rape? For some bizarre reason I think these guys would support it and then lamely attempt to back up their idiotic idea with the Bible.


Deuteronomy 22:25-28
25But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor,  27for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.


28If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered,29he shall pay her father fifty shekelsof silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

 The homestead principle in law and in ethics is the principle by which one gains ownership of an unowned natural resources (vagina) by performing an act of original appropriation.

/Legal and Biblical basis of rape
//only 5min of research
///checkmate libs
 
2013-03-31 02:48:34 PM  

ox45tallboy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't get how that could be a "threat"

/I mean, this may be just what the Republicans need to scrape the Evangelicals off their shoe and save themselves

Do you think that many people might actually like the fiscal conservatism of the GOP, but vote Democratic because of social issues that impact themselves or a loved one?

What I mean is, do you think that if both parties can agree on social issues like abortion and gay marriage in the same way they now agree with women's suffrage and (at least on paper) desegregation due to changing cultural viewpoints, then the GOP could survive based on its other differences?


You just described the Libertarian Party I think.
 
2013-03-31 02:48:35 PM  
FTA

"They might. And if they do, they're going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk," he said. "And it's not because there's an anti-homosexual mood, and nobody's homophobic that I know of, but many of us, and I would consider myself included, base our standards not on the latest Washington Post poll, but on an objective standard, not a subjective standard."

And that standard is known as being anti-homosexual. I'd say homophobic, but I'll take Morgan Freeman's take on that word and just call these guys assholes.
 
2013-03-31 02:49:12 PM  

Granny_Panties: How much longer before a red state tries to legalize rape? For some bizarre reason I think these guys would support it and then lamely attempt to back up their idiotic idea with the Bible.


Go down one thread.
 
2013-03-31 02:50:41 PM  
DO IT!!!  DO IT I SAY!!!  And take the Tea-tards with you!  Then the Republican Party will be worth two craps again!
 
2013-03-31 02:51:03 PM  
Well, they could always move to Iran or Saudi Arabia. They kill you for being gay there! What a paradise that must be!
 
2013-03-31 02:51:20 PM  

jake_lex: Here's a little story from history for you, right wingers.  In 1948, Harry Truman proposed a series of civil rights initiatives, the most controversial of which was a proposal to integrate the military.  It bogged down in Congress and had no chance to pass.

But a bunch of conservative Democrats got all butthurt about it anyway and split off to form the States Rights' Party, better known as the Dixiecrats.  And Truman, no longer required to cater to them because they were now actively campaigning against him, integrated the military by an executive order.

So the lesson here is this, teabaggers: if you split off the Republican party over these social issues, they'll just say "You know what, hell with it, we don't give a damn about gay marriage anyway."  And your position is marginalized and ignored.

Starting a third party has always been a terrible way to try to get your point across in this system.


This person doesn't know what he is talking about.  Stay true, social conservatives!  Don't budge an inch for the sinners!

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out!  If your party continues to down this path of moral decay, it is your duty to cast it off!
 
2013-03-31 02:52:11 PM  

sendtodave: jake_lex: Here's a little story from history for you, right wingers.  In 1948, Harry Truman proposed a series of civil rights initiatives, the most controversial of which was a proposal to integrate the military.  It bogged down in Congress and had no chance to pass.

But a bunch of conservative Democrats got all butthurt about it anyway and split off to form the States Rights' Party, better known as the Dixiecrats.  And Truman, no longer required to cater to them because they were now actively campaigning against him, integrated the military by an executive order.

So the lesson here is this, teabaggers: if you split off the Republican party over these social issues, they'll just say "You know what, hell with it, we don't give a damn about gay marriage anyway."  And your position is marginalized and ignored.

Starting a third party has always been a terrible way to try to get your point across in this system.

This person doesn't know what he is talking about.  Stay true, social conservatives!  Don't budge an inch for the sinners!

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out!  If your party continues to down this path of moral decay, it is your duty to cast it off!


God wills it!
 
2013-03-31 02:53:47 PM  

Mrtraveler01: You just described the Libertarian Party I think.


Libertarianism in general, maybe.  The Libertarian Party, specifically, is batshiat crazy.

Moreso than libertarianism, even.
 
2013-03-31 02:54:00 PM  

Kome: Social conservatives Mike Huckabee, Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer are threatening to leave the Republican Party if it softens its stance against gay marriage.

So what they're saying is they'd prefer something harder. A lot harder.


We may have to ram it down their throats
 
2013-03-31 02:54:01 PM  

Mrtraveler01: You just described the Libertarian Party I think


Libertarian ideas aren't necessary a good match for either party, although most seem to flock towards the GOP right now. Bill Maher calls himself a Libertarian, and many of his ideas definitely match with Libertarian thinking, but he's pretty consistently a Democratic supporter.

So, do you see the hard core RON PAUL Libertarians taking over the GOP if they decide to ease up on the social conservatism?
 
2013-03-31 02:54:54 PM  
I love how children need a mommy and a daddy but an effort to help or support the millions of single mothers out there that disproportionately have lower income is liberal socialism. Gay marriage or lack thereof in no way protects or harms kids. These people are already living together and have children. The difference is the benefits and rights that these couples lack despite nearly identical circumstances.

I'm honestly tempted by a lot of the GOP's financial policies and outlooks, especially if they'd look at military budget as something not sacrosanct. Then I see their social platform and once again wish there was a viable libertarian movement nationally. Winking and nodding while using "but, but, bible!" only works when the majority accepts it as a valid argument.
 
2013-03-31 02:59:54 PM  
Bauer screams closet case. Project much Bauer?
 
2013-03-31 03:00:20 PM  

sendtodave: The Libertarian Party, specifically, is batshiat crazy.


A Libertarian's New Year's Resolutions

I resolve to sell liberty by appealing to the self-interest of each prospect, rather than preaching to people and expecting them to suddenly adopt my ideas of right and wrong.
I resolve to keep from being drawn into arguments or debates. My purpose is to inspire people to want liberty - not to prove that they're wrong.
I resolve to listen when people tell me of their wants and needs, so I can help them see how a free society will satisfy those needs.

Source - lp.org

Translation:

I resolve to convince everyone to act in their own self-interest, and then wonder why people steal from me
I resolve to never debate my principles, therefore I cannot be proven wrong
I resolve to listen to people when they need something, and tell them to f*ck off and help themselves, because I ain't doin' sh*t for them
 
2013-03-31 03:01:51 PM  
Idle threat.  The GOP won't fragment, it would have done so long ago.
 
2013-03-31 03:01:52 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't get how that could be a "threat"

/I mean, this may be just what the Republicans need to scrape the Evangelicals off their shoe and save themselves


You know I had that thought as well. I think its going to depend on how the SC rules but it looks like the GOP hedging its bets. If things go their way they haven't set anything in stone yet and if it goes against then they will just let go of what is far and away their most unpopular and divisive group of constituents. They know as well as anyone that abandoning the religious right would go a long way to repairing their image with moderates, and they might suffer in the short term but in a decade or so when the hate-a-holics are sufficiently marginalized or have died off they can start selling themselves as a center right "common sense" party. But then again I am working on the assumption that anyone in the Republican party thinks further ahead than lunch so you should probably not take my conclusions to heart.
 
2013-03-31 03:02:31 PM  
Real Libertarian policies and not those closeted republicans pretending to be Libertarians.

http://www.lp.org/platform

1.3 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
 
2013-03-31 03:03:29 PM  

ox45tallboy: So, do you see the hard core RON PAUL Libertarians taking over the GOP if they decide to ease up on the social conservatism?


Those college freshmen couldn't take over a Dunkin' Donuts store.
 
ecl
2013-03-31 03:03:53 PM  
i.cdn.turner.com
Stop telling me what to do !!@!@#
 
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