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(USA Today)   Kentucky passes law that will allow people to break the law in accordance with their religious faith. In related news, Al Qaida was reportedly looking for directions to Fort Campbell, KY on Google Maps   (usatoday.com) divider line 223
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2013-04-01 06:28:02 AM

404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.


What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.


Imma say that's from a movie I might like to know about.....

Marine 'core'... really? I guess with the gorilla thing I should have expected that.
 
2013-04-01 07:26:21 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: My religion just determined that orgies with 16 year old girls is an appropriate way to worship.

I guess I'm moving to Kentucky, as it's now legal!


It probably is already, it seems like the kind of state with a under 18 age of consent.
 
2013-04-01 09:45:36 AM

404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.

 
 
What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.
 
 
That was beautiful. You made the cover:
 
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2013-04-01 11:50:20 AM

BarkingUnicorn: qorkfiend: While I don't think anyone should be surprised that this cunning plan was not thought all the way through, it's amusing to note that the ultimate result of this law is to grant government a massive, broad new power: the power to determine what is and is not a "sincerely held religious belief".

 
Governments already have the power to determine whether a person is sincere in claiming to hold a religious belief.  See Linkener v State of Alaska.
 
Interesting, it seems they failed because the 'ritual' was made up after the fact.  Had they gone with an established religion, or at least documented their beliefs (sounds like a cross between Rastafarian and Church of the Brethern [feet washers as my father in law calls them]), they would have been fine...  well at least be able to return that legal volley.
 
/Just for the (legal) record, while I sometimes claim to be Atheist, I am truly agnostic as there IS no way to prove the lack of god.
//This religion seems to make the most sense from what I've seen from it. 
///There does seem to be something missing from my life,  Perhaps it's time to reconsider my official religious affiliation.
 
2013-04-01 11:52:06 AM

TheGogmagog: ///There does seem to be something missing from my life, Perhaps it's time to reconsider my official religious affiliation.


Or you could just cruise BackPage. ;-)
 
2013-04-01 11:59:22 AM

give me doughnuts: fluffy2097: Summercat: Further, I think you missed part of the subtext of that very story which was that the two human characters in the setting could not prove to the robot anything they were saying. You also miss the entire subtext of all the Robot stories, where the robots were strange sympathetic beings that humanity created but did not understand, and did not trust - for no damn good reason.

The subtext is that what they said did not matter.

If their inability to convince the robot was a problem, then horrible things would have happened when the storm hit.

But the robot had faith which, being trapped on a space station his entire existence, is all he really needs. He just needs to make sure the power goes where it is supposed to. Who's will it is that it be done is unimportant.

That screams an agnostic viewpoint to me.


Check your hearing.

"I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic. I finally decided that I'm a creature of emotion as well as of reason. Emotionally I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time."
-- Isaac Asimov


The hilariously ironic thing about that statement, is that his atheism is based in faith in the unknowable. He does not have the proof that god does not exist, but he strongly thinks so, so he's not going to waste any more time on the issue. God's not real.
 
This does not sound familiar to you?
 
2013-04-01 12:08:14 PM

fluffy2097: give me doughnuts: fluffy2097: Summercat: Further, I think you missed part of the subtext of that very story which was that the two human characters in the setting could not prove to the robot anything they were saying. You also miss the entire subtext of all the Robot stories, where the robots were strange sympathetic beings that humanity created but did not understand, and did not trust - for no damn good reason.

The subtext is that what they said did not matter.

If their inability to convince the robot was a problem, then horrible things would have happened when the storm hit.

But the robot had faith which, being trapped on a space station his entire existence, is all he really needs. He just needs to make sure the power goes where it is supposed to. Who's will it is that it be done is unimportant.

That screams an agnostic viewpoint to me.


Check your hearing.

"I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic. I finally decided that I'm a creature of emotion as well as of reason. Emotionally I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time."
-- Isaac Asimov

The hilariously ironic thing about that statement, is that his atheism is based in faith in the unknowable. He does not have the proof that god does not exist, but he strongly thinks so, so he's not going to waste any more time on the issue. God's not real.
 
This does not sound familiar to you?


If I ever heard a religious person say "I don't know God exists, but I strongly suspect he does", I might have a modicum more respect for the whole thing.
 
2013-04-01 01:15:18 PM

HeartBurnKid:
If I ever heard a religious person say "I don't know God exists, but I strongly suspecet he does", I might have a modicum more respect for the whole thing.


For what it's worth, that is what the vast majority of religious people say in my experience, although they may phrase it more like "Of course I can't prove the existense of Jehova/Vishnu/etc., but I have faith!" or "Blessed are those that have not seen, yet they believe", or something like that.
 
2013-04-01 01:41:54 PM

404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.


What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.


Man, you gotta give a heads up before posting shiat like this. I just kicked the shiat out of my cat from laugh spasms.
 
2013-04-01 01:47:45 PM

Dansker: HeartBurnKid:
If I ever heard a religious person say "I don't know God exists, but I strongly suspecet he does", I might have a modicum more respect for the whole thing.

For what it's worth, that is what the vast majority of religious people say in my experience, although they may phrase it more like "Of course I can't prove the existense of Jehova/Vishnu/etc., but I have faith!" or "Blessed are those that have not seen, yet they believe", or something like that.


That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know", not "I don't know, but I strongly suspect".
 
2013-04-01 02:25:48 PM

404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.


What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.


Wow.  What an asshole.  Hey 404!  Yeah!  I'm laughing at you right now.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-04-01 02:58:00 PM

plewis: 404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.


What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.

Wow.  What an asshole.  Hey 404!  Yeah!  I'm laughing at you right now.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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2013-04-01 03:02:57 PM

HeartBurnKid: That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know", not "I don't know, but I strongly suspect".


Cant prove it, but i know god exists.

I cant prove it, but I strongly suspect he does not, so I know god does not exist.

The logic is no different. Only the wording.

He is making an emotional leap of faith to say their is no god, and I have no problem with that.

Fundamentalist atheists will not admit to such a leap existing. They are morons.
 
2013-04-01 03:37:51 PM

HeartBurnKid: Dansker: HeartBurnKid:
If I ever heard a religious person say "I don't know God exists, but I strongly suspecet he does", I might have a modicum more respect for the whole thing.

For what it's worth, that is what the vast majority of religious people say in my experience, although they may phrase it more like "Of course I can't prove the existense of Jehova/Vishnu/etc., but I have faith!" or "Blessed are those that have not seen, yet they believe", or something like that.

That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know"


No, not unless you have a dictionary that defines "faith" as "knowledge".
 
2013-04-01 04:22:25 PM
fluffy2097:
Asimov made his living writing books about sentient robots with positronic brains, bent into human slavery by the 3 laws of robotics. (Though he never comes out and says they are slaves, it is a major point of discussion in his robot stories. How alive are they? One even comes up with the concept of a God (And then runs equipment through a solar storm better then 2 humans EVER Could, while the human atheists debated dismantling him because he had faith.)

I'm not sure he's your go-to guy for sense and logic.

Philosophy, sure.


I am modestly sure that Asimov knew he was writing fiction.
 
2013-04-01 04:51:53 PM

fluffy2097: HeartBurnKid: That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know", not "I don't know, but I strongly suspect".

Cant prove it, but i know god exists.

I cant prove it, but I strongly suspect he does not, so I know god does not exist.

The logic is no different. Only the wording.

He is making an emotional leap of faith to say their is no god, and I have no problem with that.

Fundamentalist atheists will not admit to such a leap existing. They are morons.


The logic is entirely different.  The first is a positive assertion (god exists) and is entirely untestable.  The second is a scientific response, based on the simple fact that the first is scientifically untestable.  If someone said that Purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns existed, and no matter how much you looked, no matter how much testing you did, you could not find one, you would eventually say that they simply do not exist.  If you were being stringent, you would say that it is very likely they do not exist, as the .0xn1 (where n is a REALLY big set of zeroes) chance of them not existing is simply overwhelming, but does not actually constitute proof of NON-existence.

Or are you looking at the whole soft verses hard atheism thing?

To be absolutely clear, "There cannot be a god" is a position of faith, however it is a faith that is grounded in much hard evidence.  "There very likely is no god, in much the same way there very like are no Purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns" is simply a much clearer version of the above, allowing for potential variance in reality that may be discovered later.
 
2013-04-01 06:03:01 PM

hairywoogit: fluffy2097: HeartBurnKid: That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know", not "I don't know, but I strongly suspect".

Cant prove it, but i know god exists.

I cant prove it, but I strongly suspect he does not, so I know god does not exist.

The logic is no different. Only the wording.

He is making an emotional leap of faith to say their is no god, and I have no problem with that.

Fundamentalist atheists will not admit to such a leap existing. They are morons.

The logic is entirely different.  The first is a positive assertion (god exists) and is entirely untestable.  The second is a scientific response, based on the simple fact that the first is scientifically untestable.  If someone said that Purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns existed, and no matter how much you looked, no matter how much testing you did, you could not find one, you would eventually say that they simply do not exist.  If you were being stringent, you would say that it is very likely they do not exist, as the .0xn1 (where n is a REALLY big set of zeroes) chance of them not existing is simply overwhelming, but does not actually constitute proof of NON-existence.

Or are you looking at the whole soft verses hard atheism thing?

To be absolutely clear, "There cannot be a god" is a position of faith, however it is a faith that is grounded in much hard evidence.  "There very likely is no god, in much the same way there very like are no Purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns" is simply a much clearer version of the above, allowing for potential variance in reality that may be discovered later.


I saw purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns at Bonnaroo.
 
2013-04-01 06:22:42 PM

clambam: hippi


Actually, it was a quotation of Hillel that Akiva was referencing.

The recognition of ethical maxims as 'Fundamental Principles' may derive from the high regard in which the Torah and Talmud hold such wisdom. "Love your neighbor as yourself," states the Bible (Leviticus 19:18), an injunction that Akiva ben Joseph in Genesis Rabbah 24:7 famously calls a "great principle" of the Torah (or perhaps "the greatest principle"). In Shabbos 31a, Hillel says "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your friend: This is the entire Torah, the rest is commentary. Go now and learn!"- Wikipedia
 
2013-04-01 06:43:08 PM
You!
No you!
NO you!
No YOU!
 
2013-04-01 07:01:57 PM

Candy Colored Clown: 404 page not found: The My Little Pony Killer: I would have told him to take his butt back to 4chan.


What the fark did you just farking say about me, you little biatch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fark out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my farking words. You think you can get away with saying that shiat to me over the Internet? Think again, farker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. You're farking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Core and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shiat. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your farking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're gonna pay the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shiat fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're farking dead, kiddo. Happy Easter.

Man, you gotta give a heads up before posting shiat like this. I just kicked the shiat out of my cat from laugh spasms.



My apologies to your cat. I wish I could claim ownership but I borrowed it from someone.
 
2013-04-01 07:18:00 PM

fluffy2097: HeartBurnKid: That's my point: They say "I can't prove it, but I know", not "I don't know, but I strongly suspect".

Cant prove it, but i know god exists.

I cant prove it, but I strongly suspect he does not, so I know god does not exist.

The logic is no different. Only the wording.

He is making an emotional leap of faith to say their is no god, and I have no problem with that.

Fundamentalist atheists will not admit to such a leap existing. They are morons.


The bolded part is what you added in there, and not what Asimov said.

The underlined part is your stupid catchphrase that will never, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever catch on.
 
2013-04-01 09:01:19 PM
Girion47:
I saw purple maned sparkle-shiatting unicorns at Bonnaroo.

Can you share?  Damn Candy Kids get all the good stuff.
 
2013-04-03 01:36:23 AM

fluffy2097: blastoh: Dansker: The Iconoclast: First, can we please have some "clear and convincing evidence" that there is a God?

One man's "clear and convincing" is another man's "nonsensical and illogical".

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/oblig

Asimov made his living writing books about sentient robots with positronic brains, bent into human slavery by the 3 laws of robotics. (Though he never comes out and says they are slaves, it is a major point of discussion in his robot stories. How alive are they? One even comes up with the concept of a God (And then runs equipment through a solar storm better then 2 humans EVER Could, while the human atheists debated dismantling him because he had faith.)

I'm not sure he's your go-to guy for sense and logic.

Philosophy, sure.


You might want to read his bio a little more closely.  Vice president of Mensa, president of the American Humanist Assosiation,  PhD in Biochemistry, veteran, tenured professor at Boston University, and published in 9 out of ten major categories of the dewy decimal system, his least prolific of them being philosophy.  I think he's just fine as a "go to" guy for intelectual logic and sense.
 
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