formerfloozy: I'm thinking I am going to start with the Methodists. Those guys have always rubbed me the wrong way.
AliceBToklasLives: But Republican Rep. Stan Lee said, "It wasn't so long ago we had prayer in the schools, but they made us take it out."Uh, no. Nope. Students can pray all they want to. State employees just can't participate.pyrotek85: Unless they've actually forbidden students from praying, I don't see a problem.Yes, this./yeah, I know some teachers/administrators don't get this distinction//and there is, in fact, tons of teacher/coach-led prayer in public schools///doesn't particularly bother me either way - I mean we still have kids fascistly (word?) pledge allegiance to the symbol of the state
cbathrob: Finally, a place where I can worship Quetzalcoatl in peace! My diet's going to have a lot more protein in it real soon!
GAT_00: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Anyone else deal with this kind of internal conflict?Not with this stupid law."This is a piece of legislation looking for a reason," Owens said.Like laws against gay marriage, or voter ID laws, or anti-Sharia laws.This is a desperate move by frightened and ignorant people who have been convinced by charlatans that they are under attack.These are the ignorant people who are claiming they are under attack and are 'protecting' their values. Apparently a core Christian value is oppressing others.
sprgrss: The United States Supreme Court already answered this question many, many years ago. Too bad the law will fail on the first judicial review.
Summercat: clambam: A Roman soldier stooped Rabbi Akiba and ordered him to explain the whole of the Law while standing on one foot. Rabbi Akiba answered (while standing on one foot) "Do not do to someone else what you would not care to have done to you. All the rest is commentary." Virtually every major ethical religion has a variant on this rule, except Christianity which says "Hey let's turn that upside down so it doesn't make sense! Then people will feel free to ignore it!"Thanks again, Jesus, ya goddam hippie.I'm all for bashing idiotic Christians who misunderstand their own religion, but....Bwha? The closest you can come to that is "Do unto others that you would have done onto you". Is that what you're talking about?
fluffy2097: blastoh: Dansker: The Iconoclast: First, can we please have some "clear and convincing evidence" that there is a God?One man's "clear and convincing" is another man's "nonsensical and illogical".[www.fishink.us image 720x540]/obligAsimov made his living writing books about sentient robots with positronic brains, bent into human slavery by the 3 laws of robotics. (Though he never comes out and says they are slaves, it is a major point of discussion in his robot stories. How alive are they? One even comes up with the concept of a God (And then runs equipment through a solar storm better then 2 humans EVER Could, while the human atheists debated dismantling him because he had faith.)I'm not sure he's your go-to guy for sense and logic.Philosophy, sure.
HeartBurnKid: I'm a SubGenuis. My religion requires me to do whatever the fark I want, whenever the fark I want to do it. I think I could have some fun in Kentucky./maybe I should move there...//nah, then I'd have to live in Kentucky.
Lenny_da_Hog: Next up, a bill banning Sharia law.
wellreadneck: Vicco, a small town in rural Appalachia, has voted to ban discriminiation against anyone based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Let that sink in.
qorkfiend: While I don't think anyone should be surprised that this cunning plan was not thought all the way through, it's amusing to note that the ultimate result of this law is to grant government a massive, broad new power: the power to determine what is and is not a "sincerely held religious belief".
thornhill: And now we have a new error of Jim Crow
Bermuda59: I'm sure they meant to include that the only recognized religion freedom concerns Christianity. Doesn't apply to any others
Princess Ryans Knickers: thornhill: And now we have a new error of Jim CrowEra...
Lawnchair: that bosnian sniper: The funny thing is, I've already heard of a minister or two, and more than a few gay couples, in Louisville who are going to cite this very law in the course of applying for marriage licenses and marrying.Yep, that. There are 9 Unitarian churches in Kentucky (okay, only 4 large enough to have full-time ministers), and I'm pretty sure all of them have at least one same-sex couple to marry as soon as this law is applicable.Your move, Kentucky.
Your Average Witty Fark User: My religion just determined that orgies with 16 year old girls is an appropriate way to worship.I guess I'm moving to Kentucky, as it's now legal!
Unknown_Poltroon: he is second only to Carl Sagan in my book.
ghare: wellreadneck: Vicco, a small town in rural Appalachia, has voted to ban discriminiation against anyone based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Let that sink in.Hell, where is that place? I like camping in areas like this.
neongoats: This is the inbred, snaggle poop toothed idiot, jesus version of "religious freedom". The one where inbred idjits can deny lifesaving treatment to someone because jesus."oh, that guy looks effeminate, jesus says let him die, so I'mma not do cpr, k?"I wish Sherman had spent some time burning down Kentucky too.
TheBigJerk: Better than the marijuana option, since it won't get you arrested. Yet I am sure they will still wriggle out of it. I just wonder how.Ah, I know. "Disobeying the law is not the same as forcing the law to recognize you." Followed by some kid getting suspended for not attending a mandatory school prayer because they have the self-awareness and memory of a goldfish.
fluffy2097: pseudo-intellectual fundamentalist atheist detected.
Arthur Jumbles: FTFA:The bill says that government shall not infringe on any person's sincerely held religious beliefs unless it can show with "clear and convincing evidence" some compelling governmental interest for doing so.Yikes, I don't actually have a problem with this! The government shouldn't be making ANY law that restricts a person's liberty unless it had some "compelling governmental interest" in doing so. If they just removed the word "religious" from the bill I'd be supporting this 100% with a smile on my face.
fluffy2097: fundamentalist atheist
Summercat: The Foundation universe is interesting in how all those books and shorts are tied together into a single setting.
mpirooz: Holy shiat."Proponents, who include the Family Foundation and the Catholic Conference of Kentucky, say those fears are unfounded. They argue that the bill restores a legal standard in place before recent rulings by the U.S. and Kentucky supreme courts."So you are literally trying to turn back time to spite the recent rulings of the highest courts in the land. I don't think that's how our branches of government are supposed to work. On the bright side I moved out of KY last fall and thank goodness for that.
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