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2013-03-31 12:55:08 PM  

Suede head: Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

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no, but since she's falling out of her top, we won't mind.
 
2013-03-31 01:09:12 PM  

thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.


What the heck is that. I concur, that is freakin awesome.  I would love to cruise around in that.
 
TWX
2013-03-31 01:11:49 PM  

HempHead: You sound bitter.


No, I'm used to disappointment at conventions, I've been let down at conventions since 1996 when Alexander Siddig had to cancel and was replaced by an interesting, but not headliner-worthy Andrew Robinson. I did let my expectations get just a little too high for this convention though.
 
2013-03-31 01:34:49 PM  

TWX: HempHead: You sound bitter.

No, I'm used to disappointment at conventions, I've been let down at conventions since 1996 when Alexander Siddig had to cancel and was replaced by an interesting, but not headliner-worthy Andrew Robinson. I did let my expectations get just a little too high for this convention though.


Problem is also that you compared the Steampunk scene to the Goth scene.  The difference being is that the Goth scene over time has become a mishmash of a undefinable mess, from Glam Rockers like Marylin Manson getting the spotlight to a blatantly obvious Goth character on the most famous drama show today (Abby on NCIS) never playing one actual song from any definable Goth band (plus being a Goth character whose afraid of the morgue in her own job's building).  The people who now run the events of many of the Goth clubs now are happy-go-lucky Ecstasy drug addicts with moon boots, UV clothing, and tubes in their hair known as "Cybergoths" who play mostly techno with minor (if at all on a night) spinning of Goth and/or Industrial songs (and in this case, mostly industrial and little Goth when they do "change it up a bit") at the night, despite the claims of the flier.  Which means the only time I am able to listen to Dead Can Dance or London After Midnight (or someone else I enjoy) when not in my home is in some small, cramped, and forgotten side room which may not even open up because the owners of the club think there aren't enough customers in the club to justify it. (even if the club is filled beyond fire code capacity, they won't budge!) ...crap, now I sound bitter! :-P

But when you do come to a Goth event, you can come dressed in basic black (black pants, black shoes, black shirt) and it won't cause alarm, in many clubs there are even people who "look like they don't belong" (business suits, people in gangsta outfits, Hipsters) but you're welcome to come as long as you don't act like an arsehole. (especially the Hipsters, stop standing in the middle of the dance floor to drink your beer and talk to your friends, and also three words, TAKE A SHOWER!)
 
2013-03-31 01:36:38 PM  

kroonermanblack: INeedAName: Ah Steampunk. The counterculture that decries modern, mass produced commercialization by purchasing loads of modern, mass produced, commercialized crap.

Aside from you just pulling that wholesale out of your ass, no one nails anything remotely like those features to steampunk.  You're conflating the original punk music/subculture from the 70's with the current steampunk genre.

It's more about the aesthetics and settings, and the opportunity to enjoy a fantasy type setting that isn't farking Tolkiens repackaged shiat that's been sloshed around for hundreds of years.  Glueing cardboard cogs to crap isn't any worse than glueing silver crepe paper to a stick and calling it a sword.

/and before someone crawls down my ass I know Hobbot was published in the 1930s, thanks


Hob-bot is steampunk middle earth.
 
2013-03-31 01:40:05 PM  

TWX: I went to Phoenix Comic Con a year or so ago in Steampunk. I had built a steampunk crossbow thing and had some western wear that was period-appropriate to an extent, and my beard was definitely of an appropriate length. I had a good time, but most of the appreciation came from people that were there for the rest of the Con, not for the Steampunk part. I got more compliments from girls in Tardis dresses than I did from fellow Steampunk costumers.

So, my advice: Don't go if you expect people to care about your costume, your gadgets, your "character story", or to care about you at all.

Also, if you are the authenticity-type, ie, building things with wood and copper and brass, expect to take offense to those who buy plastic squirt guns and then paint them, and don't expect the character story people to appreciate you.

If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.

If you are the, "my character is a time agent from 1852 and uses this kronotron panel to shift times for her bounty hunting," and it's simply a repainted Star Trek arm band from "Spock's Brain" with some gears glued on it, don't expect the people who took the time to build authentic-looking machines to appreciate you.

If you are the, "something steampunk that should not be steampunk" person like the Pikachu-steampunk person or the severe anachronism steampunk person like Joker-steampunk, don't expect to necessarily be appreciated.

In short, it can be a lot of fun, but it can also be a bunch of posers that came to be seen, not to actually interact with each other. It's like the goth scene in that sense, but with more leather and less PVC, and with less steel and more copper.




Cool. I thought it was just going to be a free for all. Now that you've laid out the rules, it sounds like a really fun event.
 
2013-03-31 01:54:47 PM  
Ivo Shandor: Questionable Content explains Steampunk.

Oh, great. More internet comics that aren't funny. Just because you can draw, it doesn't mean you can draw a comic strip.
 
2013-03-31 01:58:28 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]
Like this.  This is awesome.
What the heck is that. I concur, that is freakin awesome.  I would love to cruise around in that.


A 1930s Henderson Streamliner. I think it does have an awkward riding position, (note-his arm is so far forward only because he is making a sharp turn).
i88.photobucket.com

If you get that, might as well get a 1948 Buick Streamliner:
i88.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-31 02:03:37 PM  

bones870: I wonder if people will be wearing goggles on their hats?


ask the blogger
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2013-03-31 02:04:40 PM  
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TWX
2013-03-31 02:05:17 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: The people who now run the events of many of the Goth clubs now are happy-go-lucky Ecstasy drug addicts with moon boots, UV clothing, and tubes in their hair known as "Cybergoths" who play mostly techno with minor (if at all on a night) spinning of Goth and/or Industrial songs (and in this case, mostly industrial and little Goth when they do "change it up a bit") at the night, despite the claims of the flier.  Which means the only time I am able to listen to Dead Can Dance or London After Midnight (or someone else I enjoy) when not in my home is in some small, cramped, and forgotten side room which may not even open up because the owners of the club think there aren't enough customers in the club to justify it. (even if the club is filled beyond fire code capacity, they won't budge!) ...crap, now I sound bitter! :-P

But when you do come to a Goth event, you can come dressed in basic black (black pants, black shoes, black shirt) and it won't cause alarm, in many clubs there are even people who "look like they don't belong" (business suits, people in gangsta outfits, Hipsters) but you're welcome to come as long as you don't act like an arsehole. (especially the Hipsters, stop standing in the mi ...


Yeah, I caught the tail-end of the spin-down. I was introduced to Bauhaus in the late nineties after the scene had already started its decline, and the local club that had a Goth night had basically degenerated into eighties night mixed with The Nightmare Before Christmas. A lot of my friends were in to the White Wolf role playing games and my look blended in with theirs to an extent, though leaning toward Victorian more than seventies-punk.

I did appreciate the ladies with the evil Victorian vixen look about them, but the scene was totally confused by the end. And like you experienced, the club started segmenting into a couple of rooms, eventually the big room became, of all things, hiphop night, and the club closed down shortly thereafter when the owner got busted for being very deep in a drug distribution ring.

Ah, good times...
 
2013-03-31 02:15:04 PM  
Bartitsu - a Victorian style of fighting utilizing canes and parasols - throughout the day along with his students Scott Mann of Harrisburg.

Yeah, no. Just, no.

TWX: If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.


At least the squirt guns still likely fulfill their intended purpose, unlike the unfeasible, unrealistic, impossible to implement cobbled together bullshiat with gears and gizmos glued to it the "authentic" steampunk person is carrying.
 
2013-03-31 02:30:11 PM  
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I'm so Steampunk I shiat gears.
 
TWX
2013-03-31 02:44:21 PM  

StrangeQ: Bartitsu - a Victorian style of fighting utilizing canes and parasols - throughout the day along with his students Scott Mann of Harrisburg.

Yeah, no. Just, no.

TWX: If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.

At least the squirt guns still likely fulfill their intended purpose, unlike the unfeasible, unrealistic, impossible to implement cobbled together bullshiat with gears and gizmos glued to it the "authentic" steampunk person is carrying.


*WOOSH!*
 
2013-03-31 02:47:37 PM  

legion_of_doo: bones870: I wonder if people will be wearing goggles on their hats?

OMG, I see one picture in that article & I want to start slapping people with those stupid goggles on their hats.

/also, PULL YOUR PANTS UP, URBAN PEOPLE! WEAR A BELT!


I Do not like your tweed, sir.
 
2013-03-31 02:48:11 PM  

TWX: StrangeQ: Bartitsu - a Victorian style of fighting utilizing canes and parasols - throughout the day along with his students Scott Mann of Harrisburg.

Yeah, no. Just, no.

TWX: If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.

At least the squirt guns still likely fulfill their intended purpose, unlike the unfeasible, unrealistic, impossible to implement cobbled together bullshiat with gears and gizmos glued to it the "authentic" steampunk person is carrying.

*WOOSH!*




sounds like your dork valve is leaking.
 
2013-03-31 02:48:46 PM  
We should have stomped the Larper queers out when we had the chance. We'll have one in the white house within 20 years and kickball will be banned in schools to be replaced by boffer sticks and dolled up nerf guns. I can only hope that I'll be layed low before then!
 
2013-03-31 03:06:35 PM  

Ringshadow: I'll be at Anime Boston and A-Kon (Dallas) crossplaying as Agent Coulson.

/every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man


Ill be working the registration desk at A-Kon (Dallas).

Lets talk Fark.com.

Drew should come too and we should have a Fark party at A-Kon.
 
2013-03-31 03:10:28 PM  

Ghastly: legion_of_doo: bones870: I wonder if people will be wearing goggles on their hats?

OMG, I see one picture in that article & I want to start slapping people with those stupid goggles on their hats.

/also, PULL YOUR PANTS UP, URBAN PEOPLE! WEAR A BELT!

I Do not like your tweed, sir.


The goggles on the hat are inefficient and makes no viable sense.....I guess that pretty much sums up Steampunk

Wear them around your neck....or have a slot that you can drop them down through the brim.

/All subcultures hit a tipping point, they start to clique up; then the douchnozzles come in and ruin it...
 
2013-03-31 03:15:56 PM  

bones870: /All subcultures hit a tipping point, they start to clique up; then the douchnozzles come in and ruin it...


Everything's fine down here, what you call it here? call it what you will here

Way down down in this..SUBBACULTCHA
 
2013-03-31 03:16:17 PM  

Suede head: Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

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F*ck no.  That's what makes Bioshock so awesome.  It's not about civil war inventor retro, it's about turn of the century charlatinism.  Like O Brother Where Art Thou.
 
2013-03-31 03:26:56 PM  
Honestly, if you're going around criticizing other peoples outfits, then you are douche nozzle and you're doing it wrong.

We have one steampunk con here in Seattle that I dress up and go to every year. We've got cute girls in their velvet and white lace, older gentle in suits and waistcoats, guys in white shirts, vests and humongous tool belts, mature ladies in full Victorian gowns, teenagers in their air pirate outfits, and kids running around with plastic goggles, toy octopus, and rayguns. And strangely enough, everyone is walking around, interacting, and having fun. As far as I can tell that's the whole point of it.
 
2013-03-31 03:34:02 PM  

Ghastly: [sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net image 705x960]

I'm so Steampunk I shiat gears.


Compact fluorescents are VERY steampunk. ;-)

// I'm just pissin in yer Cheerios, Ghast. You look great.
 
2013-03-31 03:52:32 PM  
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This was all I was thinking of while reading this thread
 
2013-03-31 04:04:54 PM  

Old enough to know better: And strangely enough, everyone is walking around, interacting, and having fun. As far as I can tell that's the whole point of it.


Sorry to be a Debbie Downer

Enjoy the Halcyon days...

Coming from various subcultures and being involved in them at one point or another, you see these things. I used to work at various Punk, Goth, Industrial and Rave clubs in NYC back in the early '90s. I skateboarded in the 80's and was a straight-edge hardcore punk. I saw most of them from the beginnings to the decline...I fully remember the Halcyon days and they were great but the pettiness always finds a way in all of the "scenes".

You missed the point....the goggles on the hat are a CLICHE, just like amohawk.....they are the death knell of STEAMPUNK!

/You learn a lot working the door at club...
 
2013-03-31 04:09:12 PM  

thamike: Way down down in this..SUBBACULTCHA

Well, played.....

 
2013-03-31 04:48:24 PM  

Kirby Muxloe: [24.media.tumblr.com image 467x686]


Oh look, a repainted Nerf Maverick.
 
2013-03-31 05:12:05 PM  

bones870: Old enough to know better: And strangely enough, everyone is walking around, interacting, and having fun. As far as I can tell that's the whole point of it.

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer

Enjoy the Halcyon days...

Coming from various subcultures and being involved in them at one point or another, you see these things. I used to work at various Punk, Goth, Industrial and Rave clubs in NYC back in the early '90s. I skateboarded in the 80's and was a straight-edge hardcore punk. I saw most of them from the beginnings to the decline...I fully remember the Halcyon days and they were great but the pettiness always finds a way in all of the "scenes".

You missed the point....the goggles on the hat are a CLICHE, just like amohawk.....they are the death knell of STEAMPUNK!

/You learn a lot working the door at club...


I think the fundamental difference in the scenes you pointed out, and steampunk, is that punk, goth, skateboarding, etc. were cultural identities people assumed.  They weren't just random crap people did because it was fun (ok, skateboarding, bad example, but even worse on your part since it's still popular with kids everywhere and they still have fun with it), they were faux movements that had manifestos and political stances and all that other crap.

Steampunk? Its sole purpose in life is to dress up in funny clothes and look like a ponce, and have fun doing it.  It's not about expressing your inner woe, or whatever, no one thinks that dressing in leather and tweed somehow exposes their inner 1900s revisionist historic real personality.
 
2013-03-31 05:33:22 PM  
I went from not knowing this "movement" existed (2 weeks ago) to never hearing the end of it over and over and over again (now). I wish it were 2 weeks ago.
 
2013-03-31 05:47:46 PM  
You know what I hate about Steampunk? It reminds me of that shiatty Wil Smith movie. That is the first thing that comes to mind when I see this crap.
 
2013-03-31 05:55:53 PM  

Astra: Kirby Muxloe: [24.media.tumblr.com image 467x686]

Oh look, a repainted Nerf Maverick.


The repainted Nerf Maverick is about as cliche' as the goggles on the hat (which are gradually disappearing, BTW).
 
2013-03-31 06:11:51 PM  

MadSkillz: You know what I hate about Steampunk? It reminds me of that shiatty Wil Smith movie. That is the first thing that comes to mind when I see this crap.


You're thinking of that sh*tty Kenneth Branagh movie.  It was an expected Will Smith movie.
 
2013-03-31 06:14:29 PM  

kroonermanblack: (ok, skateboarding, bad example, but even worse on your part since it's still popular with kids everywhere and they still have fun with it)


Skateboarding has it's own culture and you can still own a skateboard but not be fully submerged into that life. Some people assume the identity as a skateboarder while other just ride one. For example, the college kids  who longboard to class are a bit different than the guys at concrete disciples. Just like someone who owns a Motorcycle isn't necessarily a 1% Outlaw.

Check out this documentary on the Bones Brigade

/the small plastic kicktail 70's board fad is lame too...
 
2013-03-31 06:37:39 PM  

MegaUngawa: Astra: Kirby Muxloe: [24.media.tumblr.com image 467x686]

Oh look, a repainted Nerf Maverick.

The repainted Nerf Maverick is about as cliche' as the goggles on the hat (which are gradually disappearing, BTW).


Oh believe me, I know.

On one hand, good for those people who want to have a little fun and dress up.

On the other, it makes me sick to see the prices people pay for steampunk stuff at cons. They really believe they're getting some kind of handmade work of art when it's just another spraypainted Nerf gun or a vinyl top hat with costume goggles glued on or a corset handmade by Chinese kids. It's like the cosplay equivalent of Monster Cables.
 
2013-03-31 06:39:05 PM  
Ghastly: [sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net image 705x960]

I'm so Steampunk I shiat gears.


Well if you are that into gears you could always go clockpunk (AKA DiVincipunk)
 
2013-03-31 06:42:31 PM  
The_Philosopher_King: JohnnyRebel88: thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]
Like this.  This is awesome.
What the heck is that. I concur, that is freakin awesome.  I would love to cruise around in that.

A 1930s Henderson Streamliner. I think it does have an awkward riding position, (note-his arm is so far forward only because he is making a sharp turn).
[i88.photobucket.com image 350x227]

If you get that, might as well get a 1948 Buick Streamliner:
[i88.photobucket.com image 520x313]


Well if your legs are that high I'm fairly sure its meant to be ridden like a crotch rocket hunched over or a jockey on a race horse rather than with your torso upright like a Harley or a person on a western saddle on horseback.
 
2013-03-31 06:51:59 PM  

OscarTamerz: The main purpose of steam punk is to finally give the furies someone to make fun of.


What about the Baseball Furies?

artfuldodger.com
 
2013-03-31 08:00:17 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.


20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
 
2013-03-31 08:45:26 PM  
The Doctor met one of those Steampunk guys:

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2013-03-31 09:34:12 PM  

95BV5: WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea


WRONG, SIR.

WRONG.

It is "With the Night Mail"

Verne was not steampunk, any more than Gernsback was.
 
2013-03-31 10:30:09 PM  
Dieselpunk is cooler, but steampunk is the trend today so diesel just has to wait. Although swing and electroswing are really big in steampunk, so hold onto your fedoras and zoot suits...

I saw a friend in the photo gallery, which made me smile: Monague Jacques Fromage, who pioneers a new style of music called "steam funk."

- Jonathan Baines "Jonny B." Goode
Sky Marshal and Yellowjacket
1123rd "Fibonacci" Division,
Army of Toy Soldiers
 
2013-03-31 10:41:27 PM  

orbister: A friend of mine made and uses this as his regular mouse:

[1800recycling.com image 357x475]


I love it. Want raccoon for me on that one.

Does he do more stuff?  Website?
 
2013-03-31 11:00:29 PM  

Oldiron_79: Suede head: Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

[www.play-mag.co.uk image 650x420]

Well Steampunk is generally set in Victorian times 1837-1901 and bioshock is set in circa 1912 so its kinda in between the 1837-1901 Steampunk era and the 1914-1950ish Dieselpunk era, I guess either could try and claim it.


Some people would extend the era Steampunk draws inspiration from to the beginning of the Great War, so it could count, yes.
 
2013-03-31 11:13:12 PM  

Ghastly: [sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net image 705x960]

 
I'm so Steampunk I shiat gears.
 
i214.photobucket.com
 
This one's for you.
 
2013-04-01 08:51:20 AM  
Nerds.
 
2013-04-01 09:49:47 AM  

JonnyBGoode: Oldiron_79: Suede head: Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

[www.play-mag.co.uk image 650x420]

Well Steampunk is generally set in Victorian times 1837-1901 and bioshock is set in circa 1912 so its kinda in between the 1837-1901 Steampunk era and the 1914-1950ish Dieselpunk era, I guess either could try and claim it.

Some people would extend the era Steampunk draws inspiration from to the beginning of the Great War, so it could count, yes.


Bah! - screw that I propose we call that era "Sousapunk".
 
2013-04-01 10:35:56 AM  

Big_Doofus: I've never seen so much fat crammed into corsets in my life.


you have never been to a RenFaire have you?
 
2013-04-01 10:47:11 AM  

Faith Logic Passion: Ringshadow: I'll be at Anime Boston and A-Kon (Dallas) crossplaying as Agent Coulson.

 
/every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man
 
Ill be working the registration desk at A-Kon (Dallas).
 
Lets talk Fark.com.
 
Drew should come too and we should have a Fark party at A-Kon.
 
24.media.tumblr.com
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Awesome. I'm GovtHookerCoulson. I hope to see some farkers there.
 
/still need contacts and weaponry
//love my suits
 
2013-04-01 03:40:02 PM  

Ghastly: [sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net image 705x960]

I'm so Steampunk I shiat gears.


The Hot Topic kilt kinda ruins it.
 
2013-04-01 08:43:05 PM  
LoL Steampunk people
 
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