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(PennLive)   Going to a Steampunk convention soon? Here are some rules to surviving it   (blog.pennlive.com) divider line 152
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2013-03-31 10:42:00 AM  
They forgot the most important rule of any genre convention. The rule of 3, 2, 1! 3hours of sleep, 2 meals a day (good meals, not junk food) and 1 shower. Anything less than this and you will get the con-crud and repel everyone with your b.o.
 
2013-03-31 10:42:13 AM  

Egoy3k: I RTFA and I still don't know what the 5 rules are well unless a reporter getting a makeover is one of the 5 rules .Does that mean that if I were to attend a steampunk convention I should give a reporter a makeover, against his or her will if necessary?


The average non-TV reporter should be given a non-voluntary makeover regardless of location.
 
2013-03-31 10:43:33 AM  
Knowing Mark Donnelly helps.
 
2013-03-31 10:46:00 AM  
I didn't read the article, but my best guess is "book room, show up, look at all the nifty crap, hit the bar and crash".
 
2013-03-31 10:49:45 AM  

INeedAName: Ah Steampunk. The counterculture that decries modern, mass produced commercialization by purchasing loads of modern, mass produced, commercialized crap.


Also ironic because the Victorian Age oversaw the development of modern, mass-produced, commercialized crap....
 
2013-03-31 10:50:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.


Kipling invented the genre. then HG Welles, and the modern era started with the Lord D'arcy series.
 
2013-03-31 10:50:25 AM  
Steampunk is not all that bad... for example:

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2013-03-31 10:55:08 AM  

willfullyobscure: Kipling invented the genre. then HG Welles, and the modern era started with the Lord D'arcy series.


Cool - thanks!
 
2013-03-31 10:56:33 AM  
Think more along the lines of the original "Wild Wild West" series with Robert Conrad.
 
2013-03-31 10:59:49 AM  
they forgot one. Set your digital camera to shoot in sepia tone. :)
 
2013-03-31 11:01:53 AM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Oldiron_79: Dieselpunk is better.

Is...is that a thing?

If not it should be.

Something with 2-stroke motors too.

Also, screw a costume.  I'd go to look at all the cool brass word.  Costumes are for Halloween, when I can be sexy Kirk.  Sexy. Kirk.


Look up clockpunk while you're at it. That's also a thing.

The best, though, is bamboopunk. I just made that one up, but I'm pretty sure it's awesome.
 
2013-03-31 11:03:37 AM  
A Fark message board relaying Con info nooooooo god help us allll

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-31 11:04:37 AM  

willfullyobscure: WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.

Kipling invented the genre. then HG Welles, and the modern era started with the Lord D'arcy series.


No love for Verne? 80 Days Around the World is gentleman's steam punk adventure at it's best.
 
2013-03-31 11:06:08 AM  

INeedAName: Ah Steampunk. The counterculture that decries modern, mass produced commercialization by purchasing loads of modern, mass produced, commercialized crap.


Aside from you just pulling that wholesale out of your ass, no one nails anything remotely like those features to steampunk.  You're conflating the original punk music/subculture from the 70's with the current steampunk genre.

It's more about the aesthetics and settings, and the opportunity to enjoy a fantasy type setting that isn't farking Tolkiens repackaged shiat that's been sloshed around for hundreds of years.  Glueing cardboard cogs to crap isn't any worse than glueing silver crepe paper to a stick and calling it a sword.

/and before someone crawls down my ass I know Hobbot was published in the 1930s, thanks
 
2013-03-31 11:10:50 AM  
Incidentally Bioshock Infinity just came out, so that looks cool.
 
2013-03-31 11:12:34 AM  
Steampunk is a condiment, not the main course.
Used sparingly, steampunk is awesome.
Used to excess, it's cheap and pathetic.

Now, if you look at your average steampunk conventioneer, do you think that they:
a. Use things sparingly?
-OR-
b. Consume to excess?
 
2013-03-31 11:13:03 AM  
Though goggles and gears are nice to look at, I prefer Bauhaus, Art Nouveau and Art Deco aesthetics.
 
2013-03-31 11:14:20 AM  
www.bikeexif.com

Like this.  This is awesome.
 
2013-03-31 11:15:14 AM  

thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.


It's steam powered, right?
 
2013-03-31 11:15:21 AM  
WTF?! When did Dr. Who become Steampunk?

i43.photobucket.com
It's still Sci-Fi to me dammit!
 
2013-03-31 11:26:59 AM  

traylor: Oldiron_79: Dieselpunk is better.

*GIS*

Wow. You did not lie.


So its pretty much the dream sequences from Sucker Punch...I can go along with it.
 
2013-03-31 11:30:08 AM  

WhippingBoy: thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.

It's steam powered, right?


Uh, no.
 
2013-03-31 11:31:07 AM  

Sun Khan: BolshyGreatYarblocks: As with the goths, Steampunk women are fat, amirite?

'No. I don't know. I never see any difference in girls. I only knew two sort of girls. Mealy girls, and beef-faced girls.'


'And which is steampunk?'


'Mealy. I know a friend who has a beef-faced girl; a fine girl, they call her; with a round head, and red cheeks, and glaring eyes; a horrid girl; with a body and limbs that appear to be swelling out of the seams of her blue clothes; with the voice of a clown, and the appetite of a posse. I know her! The wretch!'


'Come,' said Mr. Brownlow, 'these are not the characteristics of our steampunk girl; so she needn't excite your wrath.'


'They are not,' replied Mr. Grimwig. 'She may have worse.'


Ah, yes, Edmund Wells.
 
2013-03-31 11:31:55 AM  
Steampunk was interesting for about 5 minutes, a decade ago.

Someone makes a TV that looks like Victoriana is cute and amusing. Doing the same with a ton of 21st century objects is like having a Harlem Shake festival.
 
2013-03-31 11:33:50 AM  
thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.


paging the "WANT" raccoon.
 
2013-03-31 11:35:02 AM  
funcorner.eu
 
2013-03-31 11:38:27 AM  

2wolves: willfullyobscure: WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.

Kipling invented the genre. then HG Welles, and the modern era started with the Lord D'arcy series.

No love for Verne? 80 Days Around the World is gentleman's steam punk adventure at it's best.


Wild Wild West gave us James Bond steampunk.

/and go and GIS Agatha Heterodyne
 
2013-03-31 11:44:42 AM  

Oldiron_79: thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.

paging the "WANT" raccoon.


One of a kind if memory serves. Yes that is one very stylish motorcycle.
 
2013-03-31 11:49:45 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: I'm a cosplayer, convention geek, and I find some of the steampunk stuff neat, but dear god, the people it tends to attract.

See, I have no problem with people making a character behind thier costume, it just seems most steampunk "characters" happen to be obnoxious assholes. It's people trying to be larger-than-life without the social skills to make it happen. Please, wear whatever you want, just lose the attempted attitude. That or it just attracts the loud and obnoxious ones, either way.


This. Went to two Steampunk conventions, so far, a few years ago (plus DJed at those events' fundraisers) with my ex-gf and can attest to this. The event leaders are worse as they don't pay any of the talent for the events and reap all the benefits.
 
2013-03-31 11:49:47 AM  
thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.


Well Dieselpunk can further be divided into Decopunk(shiny curvy art deco looking things) and "true" Dieselpunk (industrial looking stuff and WWI & WWII military looking stuff)

So that '30s car looking bike would be the decopunk end of the genre and a O.D. green bike that looks like a WWII military bike (one that looks like a bike from The Great Escape or Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade even though it may not be a '40s original) would be the "true" Dieselpunk end of the genre.

If you say build a desktop computer in a 1930s radio shell that would be Decopunk, if you say built a desktop computer inside a .50 cal ammo can that would be "true" Dieselpunk
 
2013-03-31 11:51:24 AM  

Oldiron_79: thamike: [www.bikeexif.com image 625x419]

Like this.  This is awesome.

paging the "WANT" raccoon.

championsofbreakfast.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-31 11:52:13 AM  
Huh. So that's steampunk.

/goes back under rock.
 
2013-03-31 11:53:08 AM  

Winterlight: Steampunk is not all that bad... for example:

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[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 600x787]

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 600x800]


Sure, they look good in steampunk gear, but it's beside the point. They might even look good naked.
 
2013-03-31 11:55:04 AM  
Steampr0n yay !

http://steampunkporn.tumblr.com/

obviouselay nsfw
 
2013-03-31 11:55:26 AM  
The main purpose of steam punk is to finally give the furies someone to make fun of.
 
2013-03-31 11:58:06 AM  
A little more research on the topic...

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2013-03-31 11:58:49 AM  

2wolves: willfullyobscure: WhoopAssWayne: What are the classic/seminal steampunk novels? I've read The Difference Engine but it was kind of meh. The Diamond Age is somewhat in the same vein, but not really steampunk.

Kipling invented the genre. then HG Welles, and the modern era started with the Lord D'arcy series.

No love for Verne? 80 Days Around the World is gentleman's steam punk adventure at it's best.


80 Days wasn't explicitly science-fictional, which is a requirement. I'll give you 20K Leagues if you like, but Kipling and Welles are more important to the genre than Verne since they were actively work to present a futurist tales-of-empire scenario, while Verne was writing straight Sci-fi for his era. I'm not downplaying his importance, but I don't think he's part of steampunk the way so many lesser educated fans do. There needs to be an explicit "this is not our world but another" component rather than just extrapolation.
 
2013-03-31 12:04:54 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: steampunk is still a thing?


that was mi first thought, I figured Sky Captain would have chased off the hipsters
 
2013-03-31 12:07:28 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: [funcorner.eu image 640x469]


That's not steampunk, that's "Hooker with stupid looking toy gun"
 
TWX
2013-03-31 12:12:02 PM  
I went to Phoenix Comic Con a year or so ago in Steampunk. I had built a steampunk crossbow thing and had some western wear that was period-appropriate to an extent, and my beard was definitely of an appropriate length. I had a good time, but most of the appreciation came from people that were there for the rest of the Con, not for the Steampunk part. I got more compliments from girls in Tardis dresses than I did from fellow Steampunk costumers.

So, my advice: Don't go if you expect people to care about your costume, your gadgets, your "character story", or to care about you at all.

Also, if you are the authenticity-type, ie, building things with wood and copper and brass, expect to take offense to those who buy plastic squirt guns and then paint them, and don't expect the character story people to appreciate you.

If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.

If you are the, "my character is a time agent from 1852 and uses this kronotron panel to shift times for her bounty hunting," and it's simply a repainted Star Trek arm band from "Spock's Brain" with some gears glued on it, don't expect the people who took the time to build authentic-looking machines to appreciate you.

If you are the, "something steampunk that should not be steampunk" person like the Pikachu-steampunk person or the severe anachronism steampunk person like Joker-steampunk, don't expect to necessarily be appreciated.

In short, it can be a lot of fun, but it can also be a bunch of posers that came to be seen, not to actually interact with each other. It's like the goth scene in that sense, but with more leather and less PVC, and with less steel and more copper.
 
2013-03-31 12:17:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
I've been known to dabble in the Steampunk thing.
 
2013-03-31 12:18:35 PM  
chitownmike: Plant Rights Activist: steampunk is still a thing?

that was mi first thought, I figured Sky Captain would have chased off the hipsters


Well Sky Captain would be more Dieselpunk time frame (though I wasn't a fan of that paticular movie)
 
2013-03-31 12:28:22 PM  
www.memecreator.org
 
2013-03-31 12:29:35 PM  
Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

www.play-mag.co.uk
 
2013-03-31 12:30:25 PM  
Rule #1 of Steampunk, no steam engines.
 
2013-03-31 12:33:06 PM  

bones870: I wonder if people will be wearing goggles on their hats?


I bet steampunk is very difficult to distinguish from 4NonBlondes punk.
 
2013-03-31 12:38:34 PM  
Suede head: Does Bioshock Infinte count as Steampunk?

[www.play-mag.co.uk image 650x420]


Well Steampunk is generally set in Victorian times 1837-1901 and bioshock is set in circa 1912 so its kinda in between the 1837-1901 Steampunk era and the 1914-1950ish Dieselpunk era, I guess either could try and claim it.
 
2013-03-31 12:40:43 PM  

TWX: I went to Phoenix Comic Con a year or so ago in Steampunk. I had built a steampunk crossbow thing and had some western wear that was period-appropriate to an extent, and my beard was definitely of an appropriate length. I had a good time, but most of the appreciation came from people that were there for the rest of the Con, not for the Steampunk part. I got more compliments from girls in Tardis dresses than I did from fellow Steampunk costumers.

So, my advice: Don't go if you expect people to care about your costume, your gadgets, your "character story", or to care about you at all.

Also, if you are the authenticity-type, ie, building things with wood and copper and brass, expect to take offense to those who buy plastic squirt guns and then paint them, and don't expect the character story people to appreciate you.

If you're the plastic squirt gun type, don't expect people that have put hours and hours and hours into hand-crafting a metal and wood and leather device, going so far as to use only flathead screws for authenticity, to appreciate your two hours of rub and buff rattlecan work on a cheap plastic squirt gun. Unless you have vodka in it or something.

If you are the, "my character is a time agent from 1852 and uses this kronotron panel to shift times for her bounty hunting," and it's simply a repainted Star Trek arm band from "Spock's Brain" with some gears glued on it, don't expect the people who took the time to build authentic-looking machines to appreciate you.

If you are the, "something steampunk that should not be steampunk" person like the Pikachu-steampunk person or the severe anachronism steampunk person like Joker-steampunk, don't expect to necessarily be appreciated.

In short, it can be a lot of fun, but it can also be a bunch of posers that came to be seen, not to actually interact with each other. It's like the goth scene in that sense, but with more leather and less PVC, and with less steel and more copper.




You sound bitter.
 
2013-03-31 12:42:31 PM  
A friend of mine made and uses this as his regular mouse:

1800recycling.com
 
2013-03-31 12:44:40 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well Dieselpunk can further be divided into Decopunk(shiny curvy art deco looking things) and "true" Dieselpunk (industrial looking stuff and WWI & WWII military looking stuff)


As far as I'm concerned, if it's not separating sub-genres of RPG fans and cosplayers, "punk" doesn't need to be a suffix.  It's an art deco inspired motorcycle, not a motorcycle with co-opted art deco scrap nailed to it.  For example, the Paris metro maintains its Art Nouveau design.  It's not Nouveaupunk.  Some morbid chick with a cool looking floral sleeve-glove made of metal is Nouveaupunk.
 
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