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(WFMJ Youngstown)   Thief sawed off cemetery's $36,000 brass statue honoring armed forces veterans, grave markers, & sold for $25.00 scrap   (wfmj.com) divider line 88
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2013-03-30 09:29:29 PM
With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.
 
2013-03-30 09:36:35 PM
esides the fact that the thief is an asshole, someone got ripped off.
 
2013-03-30 10:23:41 PM
stay classy ohio
 
2013-03-30 10:38:03 PM

Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.


Probably a meth-head. Their reasoning skills and legitimate employment opportunities are rather limited.
 
2013-03-30 10:46:48 PM
Can we melt the thief down?
 
2013-03-30 11:20:21 PM
How about a 24 hour delay in payments and a mandatory check off of police records before any money changes hands for any scrap metal, be it steel, copper or brass. This would help with all of the copper thieves stealing wire and air conditioners parts for money.
 
2013-03-31 12:36:07 AM
A better story

It sounds like the scrap yard knew what they had shouldn't have been scrapped and called the police.

I like the idea of delayed payments for scrap and I think a week or so would be better but if the risk of getting caught is too high, then the thieves will start doing their own smelting and do you want crack heads trying to run a home made blast furnace in your county?
 
2013-03-31 01:15:11 AM

DON.MAC: A better story

It sounds like the scrap yard knew what they had shouldn't have been scrapped and called the police.

I like the idea of delayed payments for scrap and I think a week or so would be better but if the risk of getting caught is too high, then the thieves will start doing their own smelting and do you want crack heads trying to run a home made blast furnace in your county?


It'll only happen once.
 
2013-03-31 01:49:01 AM
FTFA:

Parts of the brass statue were recovered at Girard Recycling and have been returned to the cemetery.
The thief sold the pieces for $25.50, but the statue in it's entirety is worth over $36,000.


It was not the entire statue that the thief received the small amount for.

Reading comprehension, subby.
 
2013-03-31 04:28:22 AM
America gets the underclass it deserves.
 
2013-03-31 04:28:23 AM

DON.MAC: A better story

It sounds like the scrap yard knew what they had shouldn't have been scrapped and called the police.

I like the idea of delayed payments for scrap and I think a week or so would be better but if the risk of getting caught is too high, then the thieves will start doing their own smelting and do you want crack heads trying to run a home made blast furnace in your county?


If it cuts down on the number of crack and meth heads, why not?
 
2013-03-31 04:33:46 AM
Thief... Saw... I think I have an idea about what should be done to this guy...

i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-31 04:36:58 AM

DON.MAC: A better story

It sounds like the scrap yard knew what they had shouldn't have been scrapped and called the police.

I like the idea of delayed payments for scrap and I think a week or so would be better but if the risk of getting caught is too high, then the thieves will start doing their own smelting and do you want crack heads trying to run a home made blast furnace in your county?


The fire risk where I'm at isn't too high, so I wouldn't mind giving Darwin a chance to up his efficiency.

/knows a few people (not by choice) who would do something like this
//wouldn't shed a tear if they blew themselves to bits
///third slashie for Darwin
 
2013-03-31 04:46:05 AM
When the thief is captured, why not just let a few marines discuss the error of his ways in the privacy of a locked room?
 
2013-03-31 04:50:48 AM

OgreMagi: When the thief is captured, why not just let a few marines discuss the error of his ways in the privacy of a locked room?


Good money says that perp is also a marine.
 
2013-03-31 04:52:59 AM

OgreMagi: When the thief is captured, why not just let a few marines discuss the error of his ways in the privacy of a locked room?


Careful, while the Marines patiently explain to him the errors of his ways, the thief may fall to his knees in grief and break his arms, legs and face.
 
2013-03-31 05:00:21 AM

reported: Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.

Probably a meth-head. Their reasoning skills and legitimate employment opportunities are rather limited.


Anyone can panhandle.  Sometimes, the more hideous ones do better.  But I guess sawing through brass helps with the jitters.

/Christ, what an asshole
 
2013-03-31 05:01:41 AM

NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?


Just saw parts of him off and sell them for scrap.
 
2013-03-31 05:03:39 AM

quatchi: NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?

Just saw parts of him off and sell them for scrap.


I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.
 
2013-03-31 05:15:37 AM

tuna fingers: quatchi: NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?

Just saw parts of him off and sell them for scrap.

I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.


Save your breath.  There is no arguing with Javert.
 
2013-03-31 05:29:30 AM

Steve Zodiac: How about a 24 hour delay in payments and a mandatory check off of police records before any money changes hands for any scrap metal, be it steel, copper or brass. This would help with all of the copper thieves stealing wire and air conditioners parts for money.


That sounds like commie libby hippy big government talk to me.

/most scrap yards do something similar like that anyway.
//it's pretty much up to the buyer
 
2013-03-31 05:29:43 AM

tuna fingers: I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.


What are you basing that on and why should that fact (if true) lessen people's scorn?
 
2013-03-31 05:32:42 AM

quatchi: tuna fingers: I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.

What are you basing that on and why should that fact (if true) lessen people's scorn?


Because vets go to medical school, heal animals, and deserve our respect or, at least, our compassion when they fall.  They're trained to do strenuous surgery and move heavy masses.
 
2013-03-31 05:34:45 AM

quatchi: tuna fingers: I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.

What are you basing that on and why should that fact (if true) lessen people's scorn?


Because, when trolling (poorly), it's best to find the "(blank)" card. The (blank) card makes you look like a heartless commie/barbarian.

/It's hard to find a blameless group of imaginary media darlings and tropes
 
2013-03-31 05:41:50 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Because vets go to medical school, heal animals, and deserve our respect or, at least, our compassion when they fall.  They're trained to do strenuous surgery and move heavy masses.


Took me a sec cos I'mma drinking but I LOL'd!

AppleOptionEsc: Because, when trolling (poorly), it's best to find the "(blank)" card. The (blank) card makes you look like a heartless commie/barbarian.

/It's hard to find a blameless group of imaginary media darlings and tropes


Ah. I'm posting in a troll thread?

/Best be leaving.
 
2013-03-31 05:53:09 AM

quatchi: Ah. I'm posting in a troll thread?

/Best be leaving.


Is anything a troll thread with a bottle of Jack? It's only Saturday night/Sunday morning. I don't think trolling counts on the weekends, depending on who is drinking.

/just saying that saying "veteran" when it's not in the article seemed trollish
 
2013-03-31 06:00:53 AM

quatchi: tuna fingers: I'm telling you all... there's a good chance that this is a vet.  Why don't you temper down your vendetta.

What are you basing that on and why should that fact (if true) lessen people's scorn?


Because people served unprecedented 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 tours of duty.  And they are coming back impaired.
On top of that, some of the private sector seems unwilling to hire veterans, if they can hire anyone at all.  It's taking a whole bunch of push from families of PTSD sufferers just to make a dent.
Scorn away, you are free to do so.
 
2013-03-31 06:06:00 AM

tuna fingers: Because people served unprecedented 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 tours of duty.  And they are coming back impaired.
On top of that, some of the private sector seems unwilling to hire veterans, if they can hire anyone at all.  It's taking a whole bunch of push from families of PTSD sufferers just to make a dent.
Scorn away, you are free to do so.


Hey I'm with you on the shocking lack of concern people seem to have with the large number of casualties and PTSD sufferers coming back from multiple tours of duty as well as the disheartening and shameful number of vets among America's homeless population but even given their bum deal that still does not excuse this kind of behavior.

Two wrongs something something.
 
2013-03-31 06:09:37 AM

quatchi: that still does not excuse this kind of behavior


What does?

Vet or no, at what point do you deserve compassion?

When you are no longer so poor that you have to steal hunks of metal to survive?
 
2013-03-31 06:10:20 AM

Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.


The inability to act in their long-term interests over their short-term gains is kind of the hallmark of a criminal.
 
2013-03-31 06:10:37 AM

quatchi: tuna fingers: Because people served unprecedented 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 tours of duty.  And they are coming back impaired.
On top of that, some of the private sector seems unwilling to hire veterans, if they can hire anyone at all.  It's taking a whole bunch of push from families of PTSD sufferers just to make a dent.
Scorn away, you are free to do so.

Hey I'm with you on the shocking lack of concern people seem to have with the large number of casualties and PTSD sufferers coming back from multiple tours of duty as well as the disheartening and shameful number of vets among America's homeless population but even given their bum deal that still does not excuse this kind of behavior.

Two wrongs something something.


Fair enough, but if you scroll back up, I was initially commenting to peoples' suggestions that the perps be "cut up and sold at value" and that they be "locked in a room with a bunch of marines".  Go look.  I was just telling folk to simmer down.
 
2013-03-31 06:16:10 AM

thisispete: Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.

The inability to act in their long-term interests over their short-term gains is kind of the hallmark of a criminal.


Makes sense.  High level businessmen and political leaders routinely engage in drug use, compulsive gambling, and extramarital affairs or prostitution.  Criminal mentality.

Lucky for them, they aren't poor!
 
2013-03-31 06:31:00 AM
Why was the bronze statue honoring grave markers? Do grave markers not get enough credit for marking graves?
 
2013-03-31 06:31:10 AM

Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.


I've panhandled more than that in a bloodstained jesters costume.
 
2013-03-31 06:39:01 AM

sendtodave: thisispete: Snarfangel: With all of the time and effort (and gas money) spent to grab the statue, the guy could have made the money legally.

The inability to act in their long-term interests over their short-term gains is kind of the hallmark of a criminal.

Makes sense.  High level businessmen and political leaders routinely engage in drug use, compulsive gambling, and extramarital affairs or prostitution.  Criminal mentality.

Lucky for them, they aren't poor!


It's amazing what a difference a high dollar lawyer or three makes, isn't it?
 
2013-03-31 06:43:28 AM
www.seattlerex.com

/Ok.  I got nothing.
 
2013-03-31 07:16:45 AM

Schmegicky: [www.seattlerex.com image 600x450]

/Ok.  I got nothing.


Is that granite? If you don't want statues melted down to make cannons when the shiat hits the fan then you use stone or concrete. Although these days I guess you could throw the statuary into the grinders to make aggregate for roads.

The "thieves steal X from graveyard" seems to be a tragedy of the commons. If someone had responsibility over the yard and kept access limited yada yada. My neck is telling me to take an Aleve and go back to bed.
 
2013-03-31 07:37:48 AM

sendtodave: quatchi: that still does not excuse this kind of behavior

What does?

Vet or no, at what point do you deserve compassion?

When you are no longer so poor that you have to steal hunks of metal to survive?


It's not about being poor. It's about being an addict. This guy didn't steal metal to "survive." He stole it to get his next fix.
 
2013-03-31 07:41:23 AM

NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?


To Hell with the thief. At least the thief had a reason.

We should be swinging our baseball bats into the carcasses of these scummy scrap metal dealers. They know damn well that some scabby skinny creepo hauling in a wheelbarrow of copper pipes and siding isn't some do-it-yourselfer who had just renovated their house.
 
2013-03-31 08:21:42 AM
Bigger douchebag was the one who bought it.
 
2013-03-31 08:29:33 AM
Came for Simpson's reference.  Leaving disappointed.
 
2013-03-31 08:42:37 AM

OgreMagi: When the thief is captured, why not just let a few marines Marines discuss the error of his ways in the privacy of a locked room?


FTFY&M
 
2013-03-31 08:44:33 AM

TV's Vinnie: NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?

To Hell with the thief. At least the thief had a reason.

We should be swinging our baseball bats into the carcasses of these scummy scrap metal dealers. They know damn well that some scabby skinny creepo hauling in a wheelbarrow of copper pipes and siding isn't some do-it-yourselfer who had just renovated their house.


This. Add a law that the scrap dealers have to wait 7 days before they can do anything with the metal they buy.
 
2013-03-31 08:49:36 AM
dave2198
sendtodave: quatchi: that still does not excuse this kind of behavior
What does?
Vet or no, at what point do you deserve compassion?
When you are no longer so poor that you have to steal hunks of metal to survive?
It's not about being poor. It's about being an addict. This guy didn't steal metal to "survive." He stole it to get his next fix.


You are assuming there is a difference between drugs and food for a drug addict.

/Methheads scrapping infrastructure, statues, kegs; for pennies on the dollar are still scum. So are the people behind the counter that allow them to do it.

//I would like to see some of the scrapyards that 'accidently' buy stolen and pilfered metal sent to jail too.
 
2013-03-31 08:59:29 AM

TV's Vinnie: NewportBarGuy: Can we melt the thief down?

To Hell with the thief. At least the thief had a reason.

We should be swinging our baseball bats into the carcasses of these scummy scrap metal dealers. They know damn well that some scabby skinny creepo hauling in a wheelbarrow of copper pipes and siding isn't some do-it-yourselfer who had just renovated their house.


However a lot of self renovators do just toss the metals to the curb knowing scrappers will happen buy.  It is hard to prove that they didn't get the metal that way, since it is usually appliances.  Most people don't like dragging the old appliances out of their house, much less deal with turning it in themselves.  The legal scrappers actually provide a service, the thieves get tired paying for all the gas that it cost to find the legal metal.
 
2013-03-31 09:01:46 AM
What a cool brass statue might look like:
i63.photobucket.com

/actually, it's bronze, but I love posting this pic :)
 
2013-03-31 09:08:00 AM
came for the Jebidiah Springfeild
 
2013-03-31 09:11:11 AM

The Snow Dog: Why was the bronze statue honoring grave markers? Do grave markers not get enough credit for marking graves?


Came in here to ask this. What a weird headline.
 
2013-03-31 09:17:45 AM

DON.MAC: do you want crack heads trying to run a home made blast furnace in your county?



Blast furnace? All they need is a pool of gasoline and some office fixtures.

/couldn't resist
/doing my part for the troll thread
 
2013-03-31 09:36:30 AM
Must have been a small statue, brass or bronze it worth a decent amount from what I can remember.
 
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