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2013-03-30 08:49:05 PM
"The lead character that guides us through that is and he's blonde," Del Toro says referring to the dark-haired version of the character Keanu Reeves starred as in 2005's "Constantine."

I freaking loved the original run of Hellblazer and the 2005 movie made me haz a sad.

Don't fark this up.
 
2013-03-30 08:51:56 PM
I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.
 
2013-03-30 09:00:30 PM

Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.


The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.
 
2013-03-30 09:09:39 PM

quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.


Well like I said I didn't read the book but I thought the guy who played Satan (that guy who is in everything except a Tarantino  movie but should have been in a Tarantino  movie) was good.
 
2013-03-30 09:23:35 PM
I think we can all agree on one thing, Peter Stormare is an awesome devil.
 
2013-03-30 09:27:55 PM

Mugato: quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.

Well like I said I didn't read the book but I thought the guy who played Satan (that guy who is in everything except a Tarantino  movie but should have been in a Tarantino  movie) was good.


Swinton and Stormare were the best things about that movie.  Some great moments with both of them.
 
2013-03-30 09:32:47 PM

quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.


Odd.  I must be the only one who really likes that movie.  And I like Keanu's take on the role.  But, I've never read the comics, so I don't know what the "original take" is.
 
2013-03-30 09:37:44 PM

blue_2501: quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.

Odd.  I must be the only one who really likes that movie.  And I like Keanu's take on the role.  But, I've never read the comics, so I don't know what the "original take" is.


Same here.  Huge fan of the movie and thought Keanu's muted reactions really fit the character as written in the movie. I don't get the hate. Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare were just icing on the cake.
 
2013-03-30 09:41:40 PM
Unfortunately nothing on The Mountains of Madness.
 
2013-03-30 09:46:36 PM
I'm going to go against the tide here and say that not only did Keanu nail that role, they need to get him back for this.

I know, it's the cool thing to always say Keanu sucks and can't act, but his years after the Matrix produced some of his best performances including his (and Sandra's) 2nd chance at actually acting opposite each other, which worked well.. and his roles in both Scanner Darkly and Street Kings. His best is definitely yet to come.

We'll forget about The Day The Earth Stood Still, that could have starred a living Brando and Olivier and even they couldn't have saved that horribly written P.O.S.... John Cleese and Kathy Bates tried their best but nothing could survive that script.
 
2013-03-30 09:47:02 PM
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2013-03-30 09:48:00 PM

1) Though I did like "Constantine" with Keanu, the movie should be redone and just pick any of the stories from the earlier run of the comics.


2) I would love to see Guillermo or someone similar direct a "Preacher" series on cable, on AMC if possible.

 
2013-03-30 09:49:05 PM
If you could manage to completely forget about Hellblazer while watching Constantine, it was a decent movie.

Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare definitely helped me forget my disappointment in the casting of Keanu.

/still all future portrayals of the character must be blonde and English.
//or at least able to pull off a convincing English accent


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2013-03-30 09:59:33 PM

MurphyMurphy: I'm going to go against the tide here and say that not only did Keanu nail that role, they need to get him back for this.

I know, it's the cool thing to always say Keanu sucks and can't act, but his years after the Matrix produced some of his best performances including his (and Sandra's) 2nd chance at actually acting opposite each other, which worked well.. and his roles in both Scanner Darkly and Street Kings. His best is definitely yet to come.



Did you read any of the Hellblazer material?  I'm not a Keanu Reeves hater.  I think he has a somewhat limited range, but when given the right role and proper material/direction he can be pretty decent.  But he was wrong for the character of Constantine.  If they had named the movie something else I never would have guessed he was supposed to be playing the same character from the comics.
 
kab
2013-03-30 10:00:58 PM

ManifestDestiny: Same here. Huge fan of the movie and thought Keanu's muted reactions really fit the character as written in the movie. I don't get the hate.


Thirded.    He isn't a top-notch actor, but that didn't hinder him at all in this flick (with the exception of the terrible 'Imma shake the truth out of you' scene).   Nor in ASD, as mentioned above.
 
2013-03-30 10:03:32 PM

Mugato: Well like I said I didn't read the book but I thought the guy who played Satan (that guy who is in everything except a Tarantino  movie but should have been in a Tarantino  movie) was good.


Yeah. PS was some cool beans as well. Credit something something due.
 
2013-03-30 10:07:48 PM

ManifestDestiny: blue_2501: quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.

Odd.  I must be the only one who really likes that movie.  And I like Keanu's take on the role.  But, I've never read the comics, so I don't know what the "original take" is.

Same here.  Huge fan of the movie and thought Keanu's muted reactions really fit the character as written in the movie. I don't get the hate. Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare were just icing on the cake.


It's not a bad movie, it's just not a Hellblazer movie.

And I'm not sure why The Beef is in that movie. He drives Constantine around and gets killed, that's it. Apparently there are some deleted scenes that give him more to do, but as it is they should have just edited him out altogether, like they did with John's demon lover.
 
2013-03-30 10:10:21 PM

quatchi: "The lead character that guides us through that is and he's blonde," Del Toro says referring to the dark-haired version of the character Keanu Reeves starred as in 2005's "Constantine."

I freaking loved the original run of Hellblazer and the 2005 movie made me haz a sad.

Don't fark this up.


If it's based on the current ("Constantine"/"Justice League Dark") version of the character instead of the "Hellblazer" version, it's already farked up.

MichiganFTL: I think we can all agree on one thing, Peter Stormare is an awesome devil.


OK, that was actually a better creative choice than Garth Ennis's meathead pro-wrestler style devil.
 
2013-03-30 10:19:16 PM
woah
 
2013-03-30 10:24:37 PM

Snapper Carr: If you could manage to completely forget about Hellblazer while watching Constantine, it was a decent movie.

Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare definitely helped me forget my disappointment in the casting of Keanu.

/still all future portrayals of the character must be blonde and English.
//or at least able to pull off a convincing English accent


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2013-03-30 10:25:08 PM

skinink: 2) I would love to see Guillermo or someone similar direct a "Preacher" series on cable, on AMC if possible.


It would probably have to be on a premium network like HBO or possibly netflix.  AMC still relies on advertisers, and if you do a faithful version of Preacher you're going to have the religious crowd in an uproar and putting pressure on companies to pull their ads from AMC.

Also, I'd love to see Patrick Stewart play Herr Starr.
 
2013-03-30 10:33:59 PM

Neondistraction: Did you read any of the Hellblazer material?


I don't think so? I don't know, I was only somewhat exposed to the comics (as I can say about just about any comic series). I don't have anything against comics, I enjoy the few I'm told "you must read this".. it's just not a hobby I've had the money or time for.

No, I was going purely off of his character in that specific movie. There are a lot of roles he's doesn't seem to fit in, but anything that lets him tap into that pain that he can so easily bring to the surface is perfect. That depressed disillusion (lack of a better description) seems very real coming from him vs many of his other roles.

Probably sourcing from the life of mockery he's faced while trying to develop/establish himself as an A-list actor :P
 
2013-03-30 10:35:14 PM

Neondistraction: skinink: 2) I would love to see Guillermo or someone similar direct a "Preacher" series on cable, on AMC if possible.

It would probably have to be on a premium network like HBO or possibly netflix.  AMC still relies on advertisers, and if you do a faithful version of Preacher you're going to have the religious crowd in an uproar and putting pressure on companies to pull their ads from AMC.

Also, I'd love to see Patrick Stewart play Herr Starr.


They could do a spinoff with him and Arseface: "Arseface and Dickhead".
 
2013-03-30 10:52:28 PM
I liked Reeves in the 2005 Constantine. But like most folks, who liked that movie, I never read the comic.
 
2013-03-30 10:55:13 PM
Some better choices than Keanau to play Constantine:

Paul Bettany
James Marsters
Michael Fassbender
Alexander Skarsgard (yeah, he's not British, but he can do accents and he's a good actor)
Tom Felton (don't laugh...watch him in the new miniseries Labyrinth; he's pretty good and can look older than he is)

That being said, Peter Stormare was the best Devil since Viggo Mortensen in The Prophecy.
 
2013-03-30 11:10:11 PM

Teufelaffe: Some better choices than Keanau to play Constantine:

Paul Bettany
James Marsters
Michael Fassbender
Alexander Skarsgard (yeah, he's not British, but he can do accents and he's a good actor)
Tom Felton (don't laugh...watch him in the new miniseries Labyrinth; he's pretty good and can look older than he is)

That being said, Peter Stormare was the best Devil since Viggo Mortensen in The Prophecy.


how about Arthur Darvill.  I think that he has the chops to pull of Constantine
 
2013-03-30 11:20:24 PM
But who will play Zatanna?
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2013-03-30 11:25:14 PM

texdent: But who will play Zatanna?
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Kat Dennings
 
2013-03-30 11:32:01 PM

MichiganFTL: I think we can all agree on one thing, Peter Stormare is an awesome devil.


He was and I liked Keanu as Constantine and everyone else except Shia LeBeouf; gosh he pretty much sucks.
 
2013-03-30 11:39:25 PM

Mugato: quatchi: Mugato: I actually thought the movie wasn't bad. But I didn't read the book.

The movie wasn't that bad but Keanu was horribly miscast. As was Mr TheBeef.

Tilda and Rachel saved it from being a complete disaster.

Well like I said I didn't read the book but I thought the guy who played Satan (that guy who is in everything except a Tarantino  movie but should have been in a Tarantino  movie) was good.




Constantine was definitely a British character. Think of a thuggish Michael Caine, mixed with a very cynical humor of John Cleese. He hated anyone who used power over the weak(God or Satan) thumbed his nose at the ruling class, and an all around bastard who used his friends as fodder in his wars. He would feel guilty about his friends death.
 
2013-03-30 11:48:25 PM
Frankly, I'll give anything Del Toro does a chance. He's only made one film that I did not enjoy, and even disliking that film, I admired his eye for visual within it (It was Blade 2).
 
2013-03-30 11:54:34 PM

skinink: 1) Though I did like "Constantine" with Keanu, the movie should be redone and just pick any of the stories from the earlier run of the comics.
2) I would love to see Guillermo or someone similar direct a "Preacher" series on cable, on AMC if possible.


i remember hearing about hbo planning a preacher series a long time ago, but i guess it got stuck in development hell and they never started production.  i think they cast james marsden as jesse but i don't remember who else was going to be in it, but i guess a bunch of people wanted robert carlisle to play cassidy.
 
2013-03-31 12:06:44 AM

skinink: I would love to see Guillermo or someone similar direct a "Preacher" series on cable, on AMC if possible.


NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!

Preacher is perfect "as is" and does not have to be brought to another medium.
AMC? They 'll fark it up an neuter it.
Besides, a 20ft sex puppet, made out of meat will never get the budget it deserves.
 
2013-03-31 12:09:02 AM
The Constantine movie was what I expected the Dresden Files to be.  I never read the comic so I enjoyed Reeves' take on it.
 
2013-03-31 12:21:40 AM
I liked the Constantine with Keanu.

Was it the greatest film of all time? No. But it was a damn interesting premise well executed.

/did not read the comic
//more flexible than many in the from-page-to-screen department
///loved the book-movie combo of Moneyball, A. Lincoln Vampire Hunter, Friday Night Lights, The Dark Knight/Nolanverse, Catch-22, etc...
 
2013-03-31 12:23:12 AM
Also, if you are not going to build this up ala Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Cap America -> Avengers, this really isn't the worst way to go.

/imagine if Neil Gaiman has been allowed to have the Sandman play free in the DCverse
 
2013-03-31 12:31:04 AM

MichiganFTL: I think we can all agree on one thing, Peter Stormare is an awesome devil.


Fully agree.

I liked the whole movie. But Stormare nails it!
 
2013-03-31 12:37:59 AM
The original Constantine film was awesome.
 
2013-03-31 12:57:46 AM

Snapper Carr: If you could manage to completely forget about Hellblazer while watching Constantine, it was a decent movie.

Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare definitely helped me forget my disappointment in the casting of Keanu.

/still all future portrayals of the character must be blonde and English.
//or at least able to pull off a convincing English accent


[images.buddytv.com image 520x650]


Teufelaffe: Some better choices than Keanau to play Constantine:

Paul Bettany
James Marsters
Michael Fassbender
Alexander Skarsgard (yeah, he's not British, but he can do accents and he's a good actor)
Tom Felton (don't laugh...watch him in the new miniseries Labyrinth; he's pretty good and can look older than he is)

That being said, Peter Stormare was the best Devil since Viggo Mortensen in The Prophecy.


badwilf.co.uk
Sorry, what?

Darth_Lukecash: Think of a thuggish Michael Caine, mixed with a very cynical humor of John Cleese. He hated anyone who used power over the weak(God or Satan) thumbed his nose at the ruling class, and an all around bastard who used his friends as fodder in his wars. He would feel guilty about his friends death.



/Book it, done
 
2013-03-31 01:12:14 AM
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2013-03-31 01:13:30 AM
I, too, like the Keanu Constantine as well as Swinton and Stormare
 
2013-03-31 01:21:47 AM
I'm going to LMAO when JLD kicks the ass of whatever JLA movie ends up being made


JLD>JLA>JLI
 
2013-03-31 01:24:36 AM
So were all in agreement then? Constantine was a piss poor adaptation of the source material, but was a pretty good movie in spite of that?

Ok, now that thats out of the way, can we talk about GUILLERMO DEL TORO BEING INVOLVED IN A JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK MOVIE!!!!!!

/or at least pacific rim, because that looks farking awesome
 
2013-03-31 01:24:37 AM

beta_plus: Also, if you are not going to build this up ala Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Cap America -> Avengers, this really isn't the worst way to go.

/imagine if Neil Gaiman has been allowed to have the Sandman play free in the DCverse




Actually, Gaiman was allowed. He just admits he cant write superheroes very well, so he didn't. It's set in the DC universe, but vertigo editorial tightly controlled who got to use their characters.
 
Skr
2013-03-31 01:49:28 AM
I liked Gavin Rossdale's part in Constantine myself. /shrug
 
2013-03-31 01:57:48 AM

MurphyMurphy: I'm going to go against the tide here and say that not only did Keanu nail that role, they need to get him back for this.

I know, it's the cool thing to always say Keanu sucks and can't act, but his years after the Matrix produced some of his best performances including his (and Sandra's) 2nd chance at actually acting opposite each other, which worked well.. and his roles in both Scanner Darkly and Street Kings. His best is definitely yet to come.

We'll forget about The Day The Earth Stood Still, that could have starred a living Brando and Olivier and even they couldn't have saved that horribly written P.O.S.... John Cleese and Kathy Bates tried their best but nothing could survive that script.


I liked the movie as a stand-alone, if one ignores the source material, but here is why I did not like Keanu in that part:

A large part of Constantine's character is his innate "Britishness", for lack of a better term. All the little mannerisms, turns of phrase, and cultural outlook. All of that was stripped away. Can you imagine a Sherlock Holmes adaptation where they cast an American who looks nothing like the fictional character? But it's even worse with Constantine, since we know what he looks like in the comics.

We went from tall, blonde, English, to short, dark, American. For a significant Hellblazer fan, it really screwed the pooch.

The movie should have been in London, with an English actor, or at least one who could pretend to be English.

Cary Elwes could probably do an amazing job, as long as they made him a bit more haggard-looking.
 
2013-03-31 02:04:29 AM

Sid_6.7: Can you imagine a Sherlock Holmes adaptation where they cast an American who looks nothing like the fictional character?


Unfortunately, we don't have to
pics.filmaffinity.com
 
2013-03-31 02:05:11 AM

Sid_6.7: Can you imagine a Sherlock Holmes adaptation where they cast an American who looks nothing like the fictional character?


bestof.provocateuse.com

You make a fair point though. As others have said I probably liked it because I'm not so familiar with the things the comics established on the character.

/FTR I liked RDJ's Sherlock
//though I always thought of Sherlock as taller, skinnier and a tad bit less jovial
 
2013-03-31 02:12:06 AM

MurphyMurphy: Sid_6.7: Can you imagine a Sherlock Holmes adaptation where they cast an American who looks nothing like the fictional character?

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You make a fair point though. As others have said I probably liked it because I'm not so familiar with the things the comics established on the character.

/FTR I liked RDJ's Sherlock
//though I always thought of Sherlock as taller, skinnier and a tad bit less jovial


Following my previous post, I thought RDJ captured the spirit of Holmes, if not the look. A little bit too manic, but better than that steaming pile Elementary. Re: Constantine, I agree it was a decent movie about a demon-killer, but it sure as hell wasn't Hellblazer

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2013-03-31 02:13:09 AM

Brainsick: Unfortunately


Take it back. Johnny Lee Miller is all that is man, good and holy in this world and he is infallible.

And Lucy Lui as a Watson was genius. I like Sherlock Holmes stories because of Sherlock Holmes,
so throwing in a Watson who's ass I may stare at fondly was a great idea.

And as far as asses go, they don't get much better than Lucy's.

/haven't watched that one yet
//thanks for reminding me so I can add it to the torrent list
 
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