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2013-03-30 05:00:23 PM
I am gonna wait for the "Better safe than sorry" portion of the Right to come out and defend ATF actions
 
2013-03-30 05:07:08 PM
The ATF suspected Kyle Myers, the iconic 26-year-old host of FPSRussia, of using explosives "with malicious intent,"

Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.

I would suggest that Kyle's explosion vids are the least malicious explosions of all time.

/Of all time!
 
2013-03-30 05:07:38 PM
America is a prison
 
2013-03-30 05:15:51 PM

The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!



I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.
 
2013-03-30 05:35:27 PM
markosun.files.wordpress.com

Dozens of federal agents scoured the family property of YouTube
celebrity Kyle 'FPSRussia' Myers while searching for illegal
explosives and possibly weapons, but left empty-handed hooved
 
2013-03-30 05:57:14 PM

cman: I am gonna wait for the "Better safe than sorry" portion of the Right to come out and defend ATF actions


Actually the ATF is one of the few agencies that both the left and the right generally agree should be taken out back and shot.
 
2013-03-30 05:58:40 PM

Snapper Carr: cman: I am gonna wait for the "Better safe than sorry" portion of the Right to come out and defend ATF actions

Actually the ATF is one of the few agencies that both the left and the right generally agree should be taken out back and shot*.



*Metaphorically speaking
//please don't break down my door in the middle of the night, I'm not threatening LEO's
 
2013-03-30 06:00:27 PM

Snapper Carr: cman: I am gonna wait for the "Better safe than sorry" portion of the Right to come out and defend ATF actions

Actually the ATF is one of the few agencies that both the left and the right generally agree should be taken out to the country and allowed to spend the rest of their days living comfortably on a nice farm with grass and lots of space to run around and stuff.


FTFY
 
2013-03-30 06:00:51 PM

Lionel Mandrake: The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!


I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.


Because ATF should totally kick in everyone's door to look in on them just to be sure.
 
2013-03-30 06:01:38 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: Lionel Mandrake: The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!


I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.

Because ATF should totally kick in everyone's door to look in on them just to be sure.


Or, everyone who  posts videos of sh*t exploding on YouTube. I'd be alright with that.
 
2013-03-30 06:02:00 PM

quatchi: Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.


Guess it depends on if it is your stuff or not.

/Not the issue here
 
2013-03-30 06:03:01 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: Lionel Mandrake: The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!


I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.

Because ATF should totally kick in everyone's door to look in on them just to be sure.


Baseless no-knock raids are okay when they happen to people I don't like.
 
2013-03-30 06:03:40 PM
In before the "Obama's comin' fer yer guns!" posts.
 
2013-03-30 06:07:02 PM

quatchi: Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.


If this is true then Mythbusters must be classified as a National Threat.
 
2013-03-30 06:08:50 PM
Did nobody make it down to the last two paragraphs?

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.
Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.


There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.
 
2013-03-30 06:09:53 PM

quatchi: The ATF suspected Kyle Myers, the iconic 26-year-old host of FPSRussia, of using explosives "with malicious intent,"

Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.

I would suggest that Kyle's explosion vids are the least malicious explosions of all time.

/Of all time!


I have been informed numerous times on Fark that firearms and explosions cannot be used for entertainment value, as they are designed to kill. Based on that, I'm afraid that I must agree with the BATF here, and ignore the 4 million subscribers to that channel. I must further conclude that FPSRussia has a very, very small penis.

/BAN ASSAULT LULZ!
 
2013-03-30 06:09:59 PM
Next on the Fed'shiat list:
Freddie Wong
Harley from Epic Meal Time
 
2013-03-30 06:11:43 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Next on the Fed'shiat list:


Funny how that works out with or without the filter.
 
2013-03-30 06:13:08 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Next on the Fed'shiat list:

Funny how that works out with or without the filter.


Heh.  I wasn't even cursing or trying to curse.  All I said was:
Fed's.

And then hit.
 
2013-03-30 06:16:01 PM

IoSaturnalia: Did nobody make it down to the last two paragraphs?

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.
Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.

There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.


Yeah, sounds like they used the guns/explosives as a pretense to search for a murder weapon.
 
2013-03-30 06:19:34 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Yeah, sounds like they used the guns/explosives as a pretense to search for a murder weapon.


Considering he has a wide collection of various types of guns, you'd think they would've grabbed one with the right caliber for ballistics testing if that had been the only reason. Also, BATF isn't really into murder investigations -- that's out of their realm.

It seems more like they used the local sheriffs to justify it, and brought BATF in just to see what they could find. Fishing.
 
2013-03-30 06:19:39 PM

IoSaturnalia: Did nobody make it down to the last two paragraphs?

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.
Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.

There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.




I'll bet you an internet that there probably isn't.

Harassing people is the ATF's stock and trade. Specifically, harassing people who aren't known criminals and won't be prone to shooting back. The agency doesn't want another Ruby Ridge or Waco, it only needs names to fill out its quota.
My conspiracy theory says they only raided him more because he was making his presence known on youtube.
They were hoping for some missing paperwork so they could score a positive headline.
 
2013-03-30 06:23:23 PM
So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.
 
2013-03-30 06:24:15 PM

quatchi: The ATF suspected Kyle Myers, the iconic 26-year-old host of FPSRussia, of using explosives "with malicious intent,"

Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.

I would suggest that Kyle's explosion vids are the least malicious explosions of all time.

/Of all time!


Most explosives you need a permit for lulz or not.
 
2013-03-30 06:25:03 PM

Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.


Sorry, if there was anything that was improper and didn't comply with regulations, they would have seized it and pressed charges.
 
2013-03-30 06:25:31 PM

JerkyMeat: America is a prison


Right the definition of being in a prison is you can't everyone can't just use explosives however they want. That's the same farking thing.
 
2013-03-30 06:26:24 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.

Sorry, if there was anything that was improper and didn't comply with regulations, they would have seized it and pressed charges.


And? How would we have known that if they didn't investigate it?
 
2013-03-30 06:26:30 PM

odinsposse: Dr. Goldshnoz: Lionel Mandrake: The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!


I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.

Because ATF should totally kick in everyone's door to look in on them just to be sure.

Baseless no-knock raids are okay when they happen to people I don't like.


You guys sound so oppressed.  How can you live in this Stalinist Hellhole?
 
2013-03-30 06:26:42 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.

Sorry, if there was anything that was improper and didn't comply with regulations, they would have seized it and pressed charges.


Did you read the article? There wasn't any explosives there. There was a video but they weren't there when they raided his place.

Read the article next time.
 
2013-03-30 06:26:43 PM

Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.


so you're the idiot in this thread that thinks that his following the law and getting his shiat kicked in anyway is proper "regulating"?
 
2013-03-30 06:27:51 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.

Sorry, if there was anything that was improper and didn't comply with regulations, they would have seized it and pressed charges.


So they can't go in and look at things to see if they're illegal unless they somehow already know that they're illegal?

That makes sense...
 
2013-03-30 06:28:03 PM
Satanic_Hamster: ...the Fed'shiat list:

That so works, filterpwnage and all.

/Wanders off to go cue up some classic L7
 
2013-03-30 06:28:18 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I'm an ATF apologist.


I know.
 
2013-03-30 06:29:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: And? How would we have known that if they didn't investigate it?


Oo. How do I know you don't have an Amber Alert child chained up in your basement? We'd better investigate, just to make sure.
 
2013-03-30 06:29:05 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: Lionel Mandrake: The ATF looked into some weird guy with an explosives fetish?

OMFG!!1!  IT'S THE GODDAM FOURTH REICH!!!!


I'd be worried if they weren't looking into guys like that.

Because ATF should totally kick in everyone's door to look in on them just to be sure.


No but if they are making videos with what looks to be illegal explosives and positing the videos on YouTube - YES!
 
2013-03-30 06:30:02 PM

Lionel Mandrake: That makes sense...


Perfect sense, actually. If that letter of law is upheld you don't get people getting their doors kicked in so an ATF agent can say "shucks, got nuthin" or cops raiding tomato and squash grow setups in peoples basements.
 
2013-03-30 06:31:23 PM
I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?

I bet almost everyone here would say yes. But because this is something some people in this thread identify themselves with they are blind to see it's the same thing.
 
2013-03-30 06:31:47 PM
Tannerite still legal? Flamethrowers and DXM too? M203's and machine guns (with approved govt kickback)?

Really? They are? Then leave the man alone.
 
2013-03-30 06:31:48 PM

Corvus: I'm too dumb to know what proper police work involves.


Yes. Yes you are.
 
2013-03-30 06:32:11 PM

Corvus: So now people in this thread believe that we can't regulate explosives anymore?

That everything is a "second amendment right"? A tank, an RPG and a nuke is ok too.

Sorry guys we have munition laws on explosives we always have.




1) no we haven't.
2) not all things that go boom are equal.
3) lol_whut.jpg rocket lauchers are legal with the right paperwork.


Tannerite (which I assume is the explosive in question) is used in reactive targets. So long as you are using it properly, it normally doesnt warrant a home inspection from the ATF.
 
2013-03-30 06:33:31 PM
Dr. Goldshnoz:  Hey, everybody! I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and bigbutt andmy butt
smells and I like to
kiss my ownbutt.

I know
 
2013-03-30 06:33:45 PM

Corvus: Did you read the article? There wasn't any explosives there. There was a video but they weren't there when they raided his place.


Tannerite is legal. They said they found no *illegal* explosives.
 
2013-03-30 06:34:02 PM

Corvus: I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?


Because every time some criminal has done this and it gets posted on FARK the thread is always "what a dumbass posting they were breaking the law on video tape" not once have I seen someone on FARK say "OMG the cops shouldn't have arrested him or raided his house".
 
2013-03-30 06:35:18 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: cameroncrazy1984: And? How would we have known that if they didn't investigate it?

Oo. How do I know you don't have an Amber Alert child chained up in your basement? We'd better investigate, just to make sure.


Well for one, I didn't post any YouTube videos of something that could be illegal.
 
2013-03-30 06:35:26 PM
No video?
 
2013-03-30 06:35:31 PM

Corvus: I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?

I bet almost everyone here would say yes. But because this is something some people in this thread identify themselves with they are blind to see it's the same thing.


TANNERITE IS LEGAL.
 
2013-03-30 06:36:11 PM
So, why did they confiscate all his guns?  Is there a legal limit to the number of firearms you can own?  Or is this just YET AGAIN another over-reach of federal authority?

People wonder why the "gun nuts" go all apeshiat at the mention of gun control.
 
2013-03-30 06:36:28 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: I like to molest children. that doesn't mean I am a bad person.


Now I am ready to discuss this with you if you want to discuss it like an adult. If instead you want to lie and pretend I said things I never did, it shows you don't have points to back up your actual position and instead want to misrepresent and name call.
 
2013-03-30 06:36:33 PM
Buy from a hydroponics store? That's a raidin'

Buy one bag too much fertilizer? That's a raidin'

Sleep with a cops wife? That's a raidin'

Post a youtube video? That's a raidin'

Buy a big gulp? That's a raidin'

Walk with a broom under your arm near a school? That's a radin'
 
2013-03-30 06:36:47 PM
They've only murdered one guy in that compound, why would law enforcement be interested?
 
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