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2013-03-30 01:40:50 PM
Hmmmm.. I wonder if it'll be THE 10th Doctor or his half human clone.
 
2013-03-30 02:51:29 PM
meh,
 
2013-03-30 03:17:43 PM
I'm wondering who Hurt plays...

And will the classic Doctors show up?

This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.  it's the tradition of the Thee Doctors, the Five doctors!
 
2013-03-30 03:20:54 PM
I wonder if Eccleston will be too busy filming Voltron and Glo Worm vs. Silverhawks and Teddy Ruxpin to be involved?
 
2013-03-30 03:55:18 PM

Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.


Probably that. It's easier to get away with.
 
2013-03-30 03:55:27 PM

Pawn takes the King: Hmmmm.. I wonder if it'll be THE 10th Doctor or his half human clone.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you just leaked the BBC's secret twist.
 
2013-03-30 04:06:24 PM
I would pay good money to drink Billie Piper's bathwater.

That is all.
 
2013-03-30 04:06:59 PM
Hey Whoovian fanbois - Billie Piper is not, and never has been, hot.
 
2013-03-30 04:07:48 PM

angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.


Far less enjoyable. It should be from the middle of the Tennant/Piper run at some point (so, S2). If they just  have to wedge Rose back in, that's the most palatable way to do it. Otherwise, you have to have universe-jumping shennanigans.
 
2013-03-30 04:07:49 PM

Darth_Lukecash: This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.


He's already said he wants to bring back as many living actors (and possibly dead ones through special effects) as he can get. 7 and 4 have reportedly expressed interest (in fact McCoy's the first one to bring up the subject of a multi-Doctor anniversary special), Peter Davison's already been in a Children in Need thing so I'm sure he'd be on board and I don't think Colin Baker's doing anything at the moment. There's a good chance that we'll see the return of McGann (I suspect that by the time everything's done, even Eccleston will say "fark it" and show up for a one-off)
 
2013-03-30 04:09:59 PM
No matter how many times they seal her off in an alternate dimension forever she just keeps popping back up.
 
2013-03-30 04:11:36 PM
FANTASTIC!
 
2013-03-30 04:17:42 PM

Snapper Carr: Darth_Lukecash: This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.

He's already said he wants to bring back as many living actors (and possibly dead ones through special effects) as he can get. 7 and 4 have reportedly expressed interest (in fact McCoy's the first one to bring up the subject of a multi-Doctor anniversary special), Peter Davison's already been in a Children in Need thing so I'm sure he'd be on board and I don't think Colin Baker's doing anything at the moment. There's a good chance that we'll see the return of McGann (I suspect that by the time everything's done, even Eccleston will say "fark it" and show up for a one-off)


I just want Ecclestan and McGann to be confirmed for this.  I've always been a bit disappointed we only got one series with the ninth Doctor.  And even though the eighth Doctor is technically in continuity since he's shown up in a few images on screen, it would be nice to actually have him appear in the series proper.

I wouldn't mind the anniversary special dealing with the Time War in some way.  Actually, I wouldn't mind them doing away with it entirely.  They've already brought back the Daleks numerous times since they've been defeated.  How about they just allow Timelords to exist again on a permanent basis?
 
2013-03-30 04:20:05 PM
I liked Rose when she was on the show, but of 10's companions, I'd rather see Martha.  Now, Martha wasn't my favorite, but Rose's story arc was completed when she was left with the meta-crisis 10th Doctor in Pete's universe.  Donna's story line was also completed with her getting married and getting that winning lottery ticket.  Martha's storyline seems to be incomplete as we last saw her with Mickey in a shoot out with a Sontarran.  Bring back Martha and Mickey.

I also want to see 9 return, 8 return with either Charlie Pallard or Lucy Miller (they were both awesome companions, and both at some point to the 8th Doctor to go to hell and left the TARDIS), 7 and Ace return (with Ace being the harded veteran that she is in the audio plays), 6 and Charlie Pallard (when she told the 8th Doctor to fark off, she ended up lost in the future on an Earth that couldn't support life, during the time of the space whale in the episode "The Beast Below", and the 6th Doctor picked her up and later left and wiped his memories, but before that the 6th Doctor knew there was something odd about her), Five and Nyssa (audio plays explain that she returns to travel with the 5th Doctor after she left him, got married and had a daughter), 4 and Ramona (Audio plays explain that Ramona, Leela and two other Time Lords are lost on another Gallifrey on an aborted timeline accessed via the axis in the Gallifrey audio play series).

But, given time travel, they could pick up meet each other at any given point.  They could even get creative and say that there are alternate realities where Four didn't fall off the radio telescope and managed to live for several decades, like the First Doctor, and same for 5 through 8, explaining why they look much older.  One of the Gallifrey audio plays has Ramona and company going to an alternate timeline where the 6th Doctor was still around (this was recorded in either 2010 or 2011, I'm not sure), living on Gallifrey and known as Lord Burner (not his name, but his title.  Burner is a government assassin who is only a rumored ceremonial position known only to certain members of the Gallifreyian government, not even Lord High President is away of the Lord Burner.  It was also hinted that the Doctor stole the TARDIS and left Gallifrey because he learned that the Lord Burner had a burn order on him.  But, with audio plays, cannon is up for debate.  I like to think that any audio play not contradicted by television is cannon.  So the 8th Doctor did go to a timeless universe for a time, met up with Rassilon and escaped while Rassilon was trapped at the an evolution experiment conducted by the Divergence).

I'm fearing that the special will not live up to what I want.
 
2013-03-30 04:22:11 PM

FrancoFile: Hey Whoovian fanbois - Billie Piper is not, and never has been, hot.


Look, all you had to do was ask for hot Billie Piper pics, no need for all this reverse psychology bullshiat.

journalstone.com
liberalvaluesblog.com
billiepiper.fansiter.com

/Grew to hate her character that would not go away, but doesn't mean she isn't hot.
 
2013-03-30 04:25:51 PM
I fink Rose is best watched on mute.
 
2013-03-30 04:27:49 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I wonder if Eccleston will be too busy filming Voltron and Glo Worm vs. Silverhawks and Teddy Ruxpin to be involved?


To be fair, he did land a role in Thor 2. It's not Shakespeare, but it is pretty high profile post-Avengers.
 
2013-03-30 04:29:08 PM

angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.


I don't think they would be that snarky...
 
2013-03-30 04:32:03 PM

Great Janitor: I'm fearing that the special will not live up to what I want


I just want them to bring back Susan. The Doctor promised her he'd return to her some day; I'd like to see that.
 
2013-03-30 04:36:43 PM

Darth_Lukecash: I'm wondering who Hurt plays...

And will the classic Doctors show up?

This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.  it's the tradition of the Thee Doctors, the Five doctors!


Dimensions in Time. I'm not sure if I want to see something like that again.

I don't think you can easily tell a multi-Doctor story involving all eleven directly without it becoming a hot mess. I'd say focus on 8-11 and make references to the older Docs. Only Davidson and McCoy would work of the living classic actors, since the Bakers are too old and fat respectively, and I'm not even sure if McCoy is available due to The Hobbit movies right now.
 
2013-03-30 04:44:03 PM

Mad_Radhu: 'm not even sure if McCoy is available due to The Hobbit movies right now.


Didn't PJ film those all at once? I know he does a lot of pickups for the DVD's but those area typically 1 or 2 day shoots (also PJ has expressed interest in doing an episode - taking a potential cast member of the 50th won't endear him to the producers).
 
2013-03-30 04:47:42 PM
I'm also disappointed that they brought back the chav and the stupid Doctor/Rose relationship. Donna would have been much better, since Tate is free from being on The Office. It would have been a good way to fix the terrible ending they have her character, plus Tennant/Tate are awesome together (like in Much Ado About Nothing).

Say what you want about River, but she actually makes sense for the Doctor. With Rose, it is weird and creepy since she isn't practically a Time Lady like River. Of course, what would really be fun for a relationship after River is done would be a romance with a Rani who came out not evil after the Time War/regeneration, but still has trouble doing the right thing. You'd have to be careful to not make her too similar to River, but it could be awesome if done right.
 
2013-03-30 04:48:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I'm fearing that the special will not live up to what I want

I just want them to bring back Susan. The Doctor promised her he'd return to her some day; I'd like to see that.


In the 8th Doctor audio adventures he did visit her again.  Lucy Miller and he weren't together (forget why, I think he just dropped her off at home and moved on) so he visited Susan, found that she was a widow and that her son Alex (voiced by Paul McGann's teenaged son) was a teenager.  She never explained how she was able to reproduce, given that as a Gallifreyian she shouldn't have the ability.  Alex didn't take kindly to the idea that he was half timelord or that his great-grandfather looked younger than his mother.  They reunited later on for a Christmas episode.  After pissing off Lucy for lying to her, the 8th Doctor invited her back to the TARDIS for one Christmas dinner and invited Susan and Alex as well.  He wanted to give Alex a TARDIS key and let him know that it was his inheritance.  Susan and Alex left the TARDIS after dinner, Lucy went with.  They reunited one last time in the audio play "To the Death..." where (spoiler alert) the Daleks used the Meddling Monk to cause a plague on Earth, Lucy was infected with one of the viruses (she had to use calipers on her legs in order to walk and lost sight in one eye).  It was also hinted at a possible romance between Lucy and Alex.  The Doctor found out, but the Monk did something to delay the Doctor's arrival.  The Daleks conquered the Earth again and were going to put a warp engine in the Earth and put the worst possible viruses on the Earth and use it was a plague ship, warp it to an enemy planet and let the viruses infect those on the other planet and warp the Earth away to another rival planet.  The Monk's companion Tamsen Drew was killed by the Daleks for being surplus to the plan.  Susan, Alex and Lucy stole a Dalek ship to save the Doctor, who was taken prisoner by the Daleks, ship was captured, Alex released it, but was shot and killed by the Daleks, and Lucy suicide rammed the Time Warp engine, killing the Daleks and herself inside the Dalek ship, and the Monk rescued the Doctor and Susan from the explosion by materializing his TARDIS around them.  He confessed and the Doctor told him to leave and that if he were seeking atonement for his crimes by confessing them, the Doctor wasn't going to grant it.  He then told Susan about the time during The Cavemen when he picked up a stone and was tempted to kill one of the cavemen for slowing them down.  He asked Susan to go with him because he was afraid of what he might do next.  He mentioned that he might go back and save Lucy from the explosion, and Susan explained to him that he knows better and knows that the laws of time are there for a reason and that he knows he can't just break them as he sees fit.  It ends with him listening to Lucy's transmission to him via a device that Nyssa created to contact the Doctor, him saying "Someday I'll be back.  Yes, someday I'll be back..."
 
2013-03-30 04:49:15 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I'm fearing that the special will not live up to what I want

I just want them to bring back Susan. The Doctor promised her he'd return to her some day; I'd like to see that.




The five doctors the first doctor was reunited with the Susan.
 
2013-03-30 04:49:35 PM

Snapper Carr: Mad_Radhu: 'm not even sure if McCoy is available due to The Hobbit movies right now.

Didn't PJ film those all at once? I know he does a lot of pickups for the DVD's but those area typically 1 or 2 day shoots (also PJ has expressed interest in doing an episode - taking a potential cast member of the 50th won't endear him to the producers).


Yeah, all his footage may already be in the can, so it probably isn't an issue now that I think of it.
 
2013-03-30 04:58:05 PM

Mad_Radhu: Darth_Lukecash: I'm wondering who Hurt plays...

And will the classic Doctors show up?

This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.  it's the tradition of the Thee Doctors, the Five doctors!

Dimensions in Time. I'm not sure if I want to see something like that again.

I don't think you can easily tell a multi-Doctor story involving all eleven directly without it becoming a hot mess. I'd say focus on 8-11 and make references to the older Docs. Only Davidson and McCoy would work of the living classic actors, since the Bakers are too old and fat respectively, and I'm not even sure if McCoy is available due to The Hobbit movies right now.




The Bakers are not too old, they've explained that when the doctors incarnations get together, the timely whimey effects are the older Doctors look older.

As for Dimensions in Time-I'm told science it was done for charity- it will never be seen again...
 
2013-03-30 05:04:35 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Mad_Radhu: Darth_Lukecash: I'm wondering who Hurt plays...

And will the classic Doctors show up?

This I will not forgive, if Moffat misses this.  it's the tradition of the Thee Doctors, the Five doctors!

Dimensions in Time. I'm not sure if I want to see something like that again.

I don't think you can easily tell a multi-Doctor story involving all eleven directly without it becoming a hot mess. I'd say focus on 8-11 and make references to the older Docs. Only Davidson and McCoy would work of the living classic actors, since the Bakers are too old and fat respectively, and I'm not even sure if McCoy is available due to The Hobbit movies right now.



The Bakers are not too old, they've explained that when the doctors incarnations get together, the timely whimey effects are the older Doctors look older.

As for Dimensions in Time-I'm told science it was done for charity- it will never be seen again...


I can sort of see them fitting in Tom by having him pulled out of time in the middle of The Leisure Hive, but Colin just looks like a hot mess now and I don't think any amount of timey wimey explanations are going to make him work.

That said, I do want to see some flashbacks to McGann and the Time War some time.
 
2013-03-30 05:15:54 PM
Mad_Radhu: [...]  but Colin just looks like a hot mess now and I don't think any amount of timey wimey explanations are going to make him work.

He lost a good bit of weight during his bit on I'm a Celebrity. Might be the only positive thing reality TV has ever done in its existence. He's not too far off of his last season. A nice carrot juice cleanse should do the trick.
 
2013-03-30 05:20:55 PM

chascarrillo: Mad_Radhu: [...]  but Colin just looks like a hot mess now and I don't think any amount of timey wimey explanations are going to make him work.

He lost a good bit of weight during his bit on I'm a Celebrity. Might be the only positive thing reality TV has ever done in its existence. He's not too far off of his last season. A nice carrot juice cleanse should do the trick.


carrot juice carrot juice carrot juice...
 
2013-03-30 05:22:01 PM

Darth_Lukecash: angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.

I don't think they would be that snarky...


It's not really snarky. Dimension hopping is easier to justify then some kind of self-timeline-crossing thing.

Bonus is that the Doctor doesn't have to worry about accidentally changing history by telling himself anything.
 
2013-03-30 05:24:00 PM

t3knomanser: angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.

Far less enjoyable. It should be from the middle of the Tennant/Piper run at some point (so, S2). If they just  have to wedge Rose back in, that's the most palatable way to do it. Otherwise, you have to have universe-jumping shennanigans.


Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once.
 
2013-03-30 05:30:58 PM
I expected Rose and 10 would show up I'm still holding out hope for McGann and Ecclestone.

I'll take any Classic Docs regardless of age.

/Put me down as one of those who came to dislike Rose's character ultimately but who would like an opportunity to disappoint her most vigorously for a whole two minutes.
//And by "disappoint" I mean "penis".
 
2013-03-30 05:52:27 PM

angrymacface: t3knomanser: angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.

Far less enjoyable. It should be from the middle of the Tennant/Piper run at some point (so, S2). If they just  have to wedge Rose back in, that's the most palatable way to do it. Otherwise, you have to have universe-jumping shennanigans.

Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once.


There have been a number of multiple Doctors audio plays out there.  In one the 8th Doctor knew his counter parts were there (I think they were on a space station or something) and he had to remember what he said then because he had been there as the 5th, 6th and 7th Doctor and as 8, he just had to remember what he said over the intercom and when.  So a special where his other selves don't actually meet, but 11 remembers everything and has to remember his part would make total sense.

One that I liked for being competely different was the 6th Doctor was poisoned and had to find the cure by back tracking (thin plot device to have the over all story) and his companion, Evelynn Smythe commented how they had encountered not yet seen any incarnations of the Doctor before 5 and the Doctor saying "Must be a coincidence I'm sure.".
 
2013-03-30 06:02:55 PM

Great Janitor: angrymacface: t3knomanser: angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.

Far less enjoyable. It should be from the middle of the Tennant/Piper run at some point (so, S2). If they just  have to wedge Rose back in, that's the most palatable way to do it. Otherwise, you have to have universe-jumping shennanigans.

Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once.

There have been a number of multiple Doctors audio plays out there.  In one the 8th Doctor knew his counter parts were there (I think they were on a space station or something) and he had to remember what he said then because he had been there as the 5th, 6th and 7th Doctor and as 8, he just had to remember what he said over the intercom and when.  So a special where his other selves don't actually meet, but 11 remembers everything and has to remember his part would make total sense.

One that I liked for being competely different was the 6th Doctor was poisoned and had to find the cure by back tracking (thin plot device to have the over all story) and his companion, Evelynn Smythe commented how they had encountered not yet seen any incarnations of the Doctor before 5 and the Doctor saying "Must be a coincidence I'm sure.".


Let me correct myself:  Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once in televised Who, which is the only one that actually counts.
 
2013-03-30 06:12:19 PM

Darth_Lukecash: I'm wondering who Hurt plays...


Typically sci-fi gigs for Hurt don't end well...
 
2013-03-30 06:12:20 PM

angrymacface: Great Janitor: angrymacface: t3knomanser: angrymacface: Pawn takes the King: his half human clone.

Probably that. It's easier to get away with.

Far less enjoyable. It should be from the middle of the Tennant/Piper run at some point (so, S2). If they just  have to wedge Rose back in, that's the most palatable way to do it. Otherwise, you have to have universe-jumping shennanigans.

Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once.

There have been a number of multiple Doctors audio plays out there.  In one the 8th Doctor knew his counter parts were there (I think they were on a space station or something) and he had to remember what he said then because he had been there as the 5th, 6th and 7th Doctor and as 8, he just had to remember what he said over the intercom and when.  So a special where his other selves don't actually meet, but 11 remembers everything and has to remember his part would make total sense.

One that I liked for being competely different was the 6th Doctor was poisoned and had to find the cure by back tracking (thin plot device to have the over all story) and his companion, Evelynn Smythe commented how they had encountered not yet seen any incarnations of the Doctor before 5 and the Doctor saying "Must be a coincidence I'm sure.".

Let me correct myself:  Multiverse-ending scenarios are really the only way you're going to be able to justify multiple Doctors at once in televised Who, which is the only one that actually counts.


Sadly, given that audio is the only way you're going to get any good McGann stories, I advocate that the audio plays do count, as long as they don't conflict with the tv show.  Plus, I would like to see something in the show do a wink to the audio play to acknowledge.  The original actors are there doing the plays (even David Tennant has done several of the plays, but not as 10 as Big Finish doesn't have the rights to New Who), so I would like to see some fan wink or something on the show that hints at the audio plays.  A mention of the Divergence or Ramona avoiding the Time War because she is trapped in an alternate timeline Gallifrey or that she was there and pulled out, along with Braxiatel, by the Time Lords to fight in the Time War.  A mention of companions who were audio only like C'rizz, Charlie, Thomas Brewster, Hex, Iris Wildthyme...
 
2013-03-30 06:33:21 PM

Great Janitor: Plus, I would like to see something in the show do a wink to the audio play to acknowledge.  The original actors are there doing the plays (even David Tennant has done several of the plays, but not as 10 as Big Finish doesn't have the rights to New Who), so I would like to see some fan wink or something on the show that hints at the audio plays.


BBC doesn't own the rights to any of the the Big Finish audio characters that weren't already theirs, so they'd have to pay royalties to use any characters and situations therein. I really don't see them doing that.
 
2013-03-30 06:36:01 PM

fusillade762: Darth_Lukecash: I'm wondering who Hurt plays...

Typically sci-fi gigs for Hurt don't end well...


"Oh no, not again!"
 
2013-03-30 07:45:53 PM
CGI the bunch of them.

And you know, eventually someone will make a porn parody version of this episode, with a big Doctors & companions gangbang at the end.
 
2013-03-30 07:58:39 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I'm fearing that the special will not live up to what I want

I just want them to bring back Susan. The Doctor promised her he'd return to her some day; I'd like to see that.


I just want him to give her her shoe back.  I mean, seriously, he ditched her in a post apocalyptic wasteland with one shoe.
 
2013-03-30 07:59:35 PM

Great Janitor: In the 8th Doctor audio adventures he did visit her again.


Ahh, that doesn't count :). I know it's canon and all (I think) but any time someone says, "Oh, in order to get the most out of X, you need to also do Y" I get annoyed. I watch the TV show, so I expect the TV show to support itself without the need of radio, comic books, novels, etc.

Darth_Lukecash: The five doctors the first doctor was reunited with the Susan.


Did he? Don't recall that, but I suppose you're right. Hardly qualifies as him fulfilling his promise, mind you.... :)
 
2013-03-30 08:14:13 PM
Since the reboot seems to have legs for a long run, cross-doctor interactions should become a standard thing:
- Write some generic scripts that involve a future doctor and/or his companions going back in time to help with a past doctor with a problem.
- Film them on green screen and store them.
- Insert the footage into future episodes.

Time travel via video...
 
2013-03-30 08:18:11 PM
Just finished watching the new episode. Good stuff. I'm really liking the new companion so far. Could be a lot of fun.

/also enjoyed the Amy Pond easter egg.
 
2013-03-30 08:39:25 PM
What about Karen Gillan?
 
2013-03-30 09:28:37 PM

My Doctor,
one more time

He's like fire and ice and rage.
img.fark.net


He's like the night
news.bbc.co.uk


...and the storm in the heart of the sun.
reprog.files.wordpress.com


He's ancient and forever.
constantinflux.files.wordpress.com


He burns at the centre of time
img.fark.net
and can see the turn of the universe.


/Haters gonna hate
//No one captured the conflict and duality of an eternal, terrible and benevolent god quite like Tennant did.
///Smith is an ok Doc, Oswin will be better.
 
2013-03-30 09:34:16 PM

MurphyMurphy: My Doctor,
one more time

He's like fire and ice and rage.
[img.fark.net image 500x288]


He's like the night
[news.bbc.co.uk image 512x288]


...and the storm in the heart of the sun.
[reprog.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]


He's ancient and forever.
[constantinflux.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]


He burns at the centre of time
[img.fark.net image 500x288]
and can see the turn of the universe.


/Haters gonna hate
//No one captured the conflict and duality of an eternal, terrible and benevolent god quite like Tennant did.
///Smith is an ok Doc, Oswin will be better.


Actually I always thought Eccleston did that better. Don't get me wrong, when the writing was good Tennant was awesome, but it's like the writers were working against his character.
 
2013-03-30 09:39:10 PM

MurphyMurphy: My Doctor,
one more time

He's like fire and ice and rage.
[img.fark.net image 500x288]


He's like the night
[news.bbc.co.uk image 512x288]


...and the storm in the heart of the sun.
[reprog.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]


He's ancient and forever.
[constantinflux.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]


He burns at the centre of time
[img.fark.net image 500x288]
and can see the turn of the universe.
.


And the teeth of a Scot

www.iansmith.co.uk


/I liked Tennant (last episode aside) but his teeth acting got really really distracting.
 
2013-03-30 09:55:36 PM

NeoCortex42: Just finished watching the new episode. Good stuff. I'm really liking the new companion so far. Could be a lot of fun.

/also enjoyed the Amy Pond easter egg.


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2013-03-30 10:08:30 PM

ArcadianRefugee: NeoCortex42: Just finished watching the new episode. Good stuff. I'm really liking the new companion so far. Could be a lot of fun.

/also enjoyed the Amy Pond easter egg.

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The book was written by Amelia Williams.
 
2013-03-30 10:13:02 PM

sirbissel: The book was written by Amelia Williams.


The cool part was the bit about how chapter 11 is better than chapter 10.
 
2013-03-30 10:42:02 PM
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I'm a pony now.  Ponies are cool.
 
2013-03-30 11:07:50 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Actually I always thought Eccleston did that better. Don't get me wrong, when the writing was good Tennant was awesome, but it's like the writers were working against his character.


Eccleston was robbed. I'm not sure if he robbed himself or if the people he worked for did it, but he seemed to just be getting into that role. I loved the 9th Doctor but we just didn't get enough of him. Eccleston definitely has the best written season I think. So many of those episodes were just damned good.

And yes, Tennant was awesome in spite of many of those scripts, his director and the producer... not thanks to them. He was fine when he was just acting, (whether the intense, the funny or the miserably depressed and resigned)

but you could tell the performances when they wanted him to constantly and consistently one-up his last performance and after while some of them played off as a person trying to sing a high note they simply cannot reach.... or flogging an already dead horse for the last 15min of an episode. Some stories were so terribly written I think the director just phone it in and expected Tennant to carry the entire thing with nothing but emotion.

While some of his stories were the best Who stories of all time; Family of Blood, Waters of Mars, Girl in the Fireplace, The Silent Library (and let's not forget the two great but less-Doctor-focused Blink and Love & Monsters)

... he has just as many terrible episodes, or episodes that could have been epically great if not due to a bit of terrible writing or producers not realizing they just recorded shiat on tape. Every season finale, The End of Time... (though End of Time has some scenes that rise above that story.. as in anywhere he's in a dialogue with Bernard Cribbins. That was a story so close to being awesome.) There are other things about those years that nag on me. I feel like they pissed away some good opportunities with John Simm. Micky, Martha and Donna all deserved better endings. I could go on and on
 
2013-03-30 11:21:13 PM

MurphyMurphy: Dingleberry Dickwad: Actually I always thought Eccleston did that better. Don't get me wrong, when the writing was good Tennant was awesome, but it's like the writers were working against his character.

Eccleston was robbed. I'm not sure if he robbed himself or if the people he worked for did it, but he seemed to just be getting into that role. I loved the 9th Doctor but we just didn't get enough of him. Eccleston definitely has the best written season I think. So many of those episodes were just damned good.

And yes, Tennant was awesome in spite of many of those scripts, his director and the producer... not thanks to them. He was fine when he was just acting, (whether the intense, the funny or the miserably depressed and resigned)

but you could tell the performances when they wanted him to constantly and consistently one-up his last performance and after while some of them played off as a person trying to sing a high note they simply cannot reach.... or flogging an already dead horse for the last 15min of an episode. Some stories were so terribly written I think the director just phone it in and expected Tennant to carry the entire thing with nothing but emotion.

While some of his stories were the best Who stories of all time; Family of Blood, Waters of Mars, Girl in the Fireplace, The Silent Library (and let's not forget the two great but less-Doctor-focused Blink and Love & Monsters)

... he has just as many terrible episodes, or episodes that could have been epically great if not due to a bit of terrible writing or producers not realizing they just recorded shiat on tape. Every season finale, The End of Time... (though End of Time has some scenes that rise above that story.. as in anywhere he's in a dialogue with Bernard Cribbins. That was a story so close to being awesome.) There are other things about those years that nag on me. I feel like they pissed away some good opportunities with John Simm. Micky, Martha and Donna all deserved better endings. I could ...



Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.
 
2013-03-31 12:05:14 AM
Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

"I left Doctor Who because I could not get along with the senior people. I left because of politics. I did not see eye-to-eye with them. I didn't agree with the way things were being run. I didn't like the culture that had grown up around the series. So I left, I felt, over a principle.
I thought to remain, which would have made me a lot of money and given me huge visibility, the price I would have had to pay was to eat a lot of shiat. I'm not being funny about that. I didn't want to do that and it comes to the art of it, in a way. I feel that if you run your career and.. we are vulnerable as actors and we are constantly humiliating ourselves auditioning. But if you allow that to go on, on a grand scale you will lose whatever it is about you and it will be present in your work."
 
2013-03-31 12:19:05 AM

sirbissel: ArcadianRefugee: NeoCortex42: Just finished watching the new episode. Good stuff. I'm really liking the new companion so far. Could be a lot of fun.

/also enjoyed the Amy Pond easter egg.

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The book was written by Amelia Williams.


Yeah, I didnt catch that in the first watching (just saw it again with friends).

I have a tendency with some shows to watch them twice. Once just as a "spectator" to take in the show as is, and then again with a more investigatorial eye. "Who" is one of those shows, where there are lots of nods and foreshadowing if you look deeply enough; I just don't like to put that sort of effort in all the time, as it can also ruin shows for me.
 
2013-03-31 01:06:47 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rose unfairly gets a lot of shiat because of stuff that would have happened to the first companion of the reboot no matter who that companion was.  The realization that they weren't the only companion and the returning over and over again as the modern doctor stops just dumping his people and never seeing them again, etc.  About the only thing that can be blamed on Rose as a character is the love story, but even that makes sense in the context of a weary man ruined by war and a caring woman with the enthusiasm & energy of a teenager / young adult.

I don't like that Rose was waiting for a man to start her life for her, but most modern 19 & 20 yr olds are definitely just hanging around waiting for their lives to start.  I never bought that Rose was in love with 10 anyway.  Probably because Piper and Tennant had absolutely horrible chemistry.  She fell in love with 9, but 10 just happened to be the suit her Doctor was wearing at the time.

I'd love to check in on Rose and the clone & have there be some interaction between Smith & Piper.  I loved his reaction to the hologram of Rose in one of the earlier episodes.  Amy is the companion I hope we're well and truly done with because there is simply no excuse for her hanging on like she did.
 
2013-03-31 01:54:37 AM

BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.


The typecast excuse was something pushed by BBC.  Eccleston left because he couldn't stand the people running the show and the politics involved.  Personally I don't blame him one bit.
 
2013-03-31 03:53:35 AM

Snapper Carr: MurphyMurphy: My Doctor,
one more time

He's like fire and ice and rage.
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He's like the night
[news.bbc.co.uk image 512x288]

...and the storm in the heart of the sun.
[reprog.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]

He's ancient and forever.
[constantinflux.files.wordpress.com image 500x288]

He burns at the centre of time
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and can see the turn of the universe.
.

And the teeth of a Scot

[www.iansmith.co.uk image 400x228]

/I liked Tennant (last episode aside) but his teeth acting got really really distracting.


Amen, brother.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-31 08:03:49 PM

BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.


Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.


I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.

I liked Tennant from the moment I saw him and all throughout his run, even if the last couple episodes were a bit unnecessarily stupid. Despite that, Tennant made the best of it and made it watchable. Especially when he gets intense, he was one of my favorite "good" characters ever on televsion.

Smith is good. He doesn't do the really intense moments as well as Tennant, but he still does well. He has his other shining moments, though.
 
2013-03-31 11:50:42 PM

jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.

I liked Tennant from the moment I saw him and all throughout his run, even if the last couple episodes were a bit unnecessarily stupid. Despite that, Tennant made the best of it and made it watchable. Especially when he gets intense, he was one of my favorite "good" characters ever on televsion.

Smith is good. He doesn't do the really intense moments as well as Tennant, but he still does well. He has his other shining moments, though.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-01 12:14:50 AM

jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.


YMMV but to me there's never been a better performance by any Doctor (classic or new) than the 2005 episode "Dalek". The scene when he first finds the Dalek he goes from fear to sadistic glee to rage to regret to mocking anger - all in the space of about 3 minutes. There's no scenery chewing (a problem both Tennant and Smith have demonstrated here and there), it's all very naturally played.
 
2013-04-01 12:37:01 AM

Snapper Carr: jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.


YMMV but to me there's never been a better performance by any Doctor (classic or new) than the 2005 episode "Dalek". The scene when he first finds the Dalek he goes from fear to sadistic glee to rage to regret to mocking anger - all in the space of about 3 minutes. There's no scenery chewing (a problem both Tennant and Smith have demonstrated here and there), it's all very naturally played.

 
That's probably one of my favorite episodes from the new series for exactly that reason. He goes from "Hey I'm the Doctor, sorry you're here" to "WTF! I killed all of you!" to "Ha! Look at yourself you pathetic bastard!" to "Die!" That's the first episode where you really see the toll the Time War has taken on the Doctor. You get another glimpse in the Doctor Dances two part episode.
 
2013-04-01 08:07:26 AM
As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit. 
 
/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav
 
2013-04-01 10:56:22 PM

Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav


Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.
 
2013-04-02 12:37:05 AM

100 Watt Walrus: Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav

Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.


Sounds to me like he's headed into season 4, which, IMO, was the best of the new series. The Doctor/Donna season was the best of the lot... solid stories throughout, the best of the new companions (all of this is my opinion, of course, lest I get shiat for not stating that)... just a solid season.

Now, after season 4, the specials... that's when things really go off the rails.
 
2013-04-02 04:15:46 AM

FirstNationalBastard: 100 Watt Walrus: Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav

Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.

Sounds to me like he's headed into season 4, which, IMO, was the best of the new series. The Doctor/Donna season was the best of the lot... solid stories throughout, the best of the new companions (all of this is my opinion, of course, lest I get shiat for not stating that)... just a solid season.

Now, after season 4, the specials... that's when things really go off the rails.



I'm not a fan of Donna. I wish I couldn't see past how utterly obnoxious same is, but she just makes me want to punch her -- especially when she gets all self-righteous or starts crying about this injustice or that.

That said, there are good episodes inn that season, but Tennant starts really leading with his teeth on that year, the Agatha Christie one is just awful, Donna is at her worst in the Pompeii and Odd ones, and the session finale is so obsessed with being epic that it's becomes a mockery of itself.


/fan since '79, have earned the right to criticize and still love the show
 
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