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2013-03-30 10:42:02 PM
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I'm a pony now.  Ponies are cool.
 
2013-03-30 11:07:50 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Actually I always thought Eccleston did that better. Don't get me wrong, when the writing was good Tennant was awesome, but it's like the writers were working against his character.


Eccleston was robbed. I'm not sure if he robbed himself or if the people he worked for did it, but he seemed to just be getting into that role. I loved the 9th Doctor but we just didn't get enough of him. Eccleston definitely has the best written season I think. So many of those episodes were just damned good.

And yes, Tennant was awesome in spite of many of those scripts, his director and the producer... not thanks to them. He was fine when he was just acting, (whether the intense, the funny or the miserably depressed and resigned)

but you could tell the performances when they wanted him to constantly and consistently one-up his last performance and after while some of them played off as a person trying to sing a high note they simply cannot reach.... or flogging an already dead horse for the last 15min of an episode. Some stories were so terribly written I think the director just phone it in and expected Tennant to carry the entire thing with nothing but emotion.

While some of his stories were the best Who stories of all time; Family of Blood, Waters of Mars, Girl in the Fireplace, The Silent Library (and let's not forget the two great but less-Doctor-focused Blink and Love & Monsters)

... he has just as many terrible episodes, or episodes that could have been epically great if not due to a bit of terrible writing or producers not realizing they just recorded shiat on tape. Every season finale, The End of Time... (though End of Time has some scenes that rise above that story.. as in anywhere he's in a dialogue with Bernard Cribbins. That was a story so close to being awesome.) There are other things about those years that nag on me. I feel like they pissed away some good opportunities with John Simm. Micky, Martha and Donna all deserved better endings. I could go on and on
 
2013-03-30 11:21:13 PM

MurphyMurphy: Dingleberry Dickwad: Actually I always thought Eccleston did that better. Don't get me wrong, when the writing was good Tennant was awesome, but it's like the writers were working against his character.

Eccleston was robbed. I'm not sure if he robbed himself or if the people he worked for did it, but he seemed to just be getting into that role. I loved the 9th Doctor but we just didn't get enough of him. Eccleston definitely has the best written season I think. So many of those episodes were just damned good.

And yes, Tennant was awesome in spite of many of those scripts, his director and the producer... not thanks to them. He was fine when he was just acting, (whether the intense, the funny or the miserably depressed and resigned)

but you could tell the performances when they wanted him to constantly and consistently one-up his last performance and after while some of them played off as a person trying to sing a high note they simply cannot reach.... or flogging an already dead horse for the last 15min of an episode. Some stories were so terribly written I think the director just phone it in and expected Tennant to carry the entire thing with nothing but emotion.

While some of his stories were the best Who stories of all time; Family of Blood, Waters of Mars, Girl in the Fireplace, The Silent Library (and let's not forget the two great but less-Doctor-focused Blink and Love & Monsters)

... he has just as many terrible episodes, or episodes that could have been epically great if not due to a bit of terrible writing or producers not realizing they just recorded shiat on tape. Every season finale, The End of Time... (though End of Time has some scenes that rise above that story.. as in anywhere he's in a dialogue with Bernard Cribbins. That was a story so close to being awesome.) There are other things about those years that nag on me. I feel like they pissed away some good opportunities with John Simm. Micky, Martha and Donna all deserved better endings. I could ...



Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.
 
2013-03-31 12:05:14 AM
Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

"I left Doctor Who because I could not get along with the senior people. I left because of politics. I did not see eye-to-eye with them. I didn't agree with the way things were being run. I didn't like the culture that had grown up around the series. So I left, I felt, over a principle.
I thought to remain, which would have made me a lot of money and given me huge visibility, the price I would have had to pay was to eat a lot of shiat. I'm not being funny about that. I didn't want to do that and it comes to the art of it, in a way. I feel that if you run your career and.. we are vulnerable as actors and we are constantly humiliating ourselves auditioning. But if you allow that to go on, on a grand scale you will lose whatever it is about you and it will be present in your work."
 
2013-03-31 12:19:05 AM

sirbissel: ArcadianRefugee: NeoCortex42: Just finished watching the new episode. Good stuff. I'm really liking the new companion so far. Could be a lot of fun.

/also enjoyed the Amy Pond easter egg.

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The book was written by Amelia Williams.


Yeah, I didnt catch that in the first watching (just saw it again with friends).

I have a tendency with some shows to watch them twice. Once just as a "spectator" to take in the show as is, and then again with a more investigatorial eye. "Who" is one of those shows, where there are lots of nods and foreshadowing if you look deeply enough; I just don't like to put that sort of effort in all the time, as it can also ruin shows for me.
 
2013-03-31 01:06:47 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rose unfairly gets a lot of shiat because of stuff that would have happened to the first companion of the reboot no matter who that companion was.  The realization that they weren't the only companion and the returning over and over again as the modern doctor stops just dumping his people and never seeing them again, etc.  About the only thing that can be blamed on Rose as a character is the love story, but even that makes sense in the context of a weary man ruined by war and a caring woman with the enthusiasm & energy of a teenager / young adult.

I don't like that Rose was waiting for a man to start her life for her, but most modern 19 & 20 yr olds are definitely just hanging around waiting for their lives to start.  I never bought that Rose was in love with 10 anyway.  Probably because Piper and Tennant had absolutely horrible chemistry.  She fell in love with 9, but 10 just happened to be the suit her Doctor was wearing at the time.

I'd love to check in on Rose and the clone & have there be some interaction between Smith & Piper.  I loved his reaction to the hologram of Rose in one of the earlier episodes.  Amy is the companion I hope we're well and truly done with because there is simply no excuse for her hanging on like she did.
 
2013-03-31 01:54:37 AM

BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.


The typecast excuse was something pushed by BBC.  Eccleston left because he couldn't stand the people running the show and the politics involved.  Personally I don't blame him one bit.
 
2013-03-31 03:53:35 AM

Snapper Carr: MurphyMurphy: My Doctor,
one more time

He's like fire and ice and rage.
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He's like the night
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...and the storm in the heart of the sun.
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He's ancient and forever.
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He burns at the centre of time
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and can see the turn of the universe.
.

And the teeth of a Scot

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/I liked Tennant (last episode aside) but his teeth acting got really really distracting.


Amen, brother.
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2013-03-31 08:03:49 PM

BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.


Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.


I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.

I liked Tennant from the moment I saw him and all throughout his run, even if the last couple episodes were a bit unnecessarily stupid. Despite that, Tennant made the best of it and made it watchable. Especially when he gets intense, he was one of my favorite "good" characters ever on televsion.

Smith is good. He doesn't do the really intense moments as well as Tennant, but he still does well. He has his other shining moments, though.
 
2013-03-31 11:50:42 PM

jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.

I liked Tennant from the moment I saw him and all throughout his run, even if the last couple episodes were a bit unnecessarily stupid. Despite that, Tennant made the best of it and made it watchable. Especially when he gets intense, he was one of my favorite "good" characters ever on televsion.

Smith is good. He doesn't do the really intense moments as well as Tennant, but he still does well. He has his other shining moments, though.


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2013-04-01 12:14:50 AM

jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.


YMMV but to me there's never been a better performance by any Doctor (classic or new) than the 2005 episode "Dalek". The scene when he first finds the Dalek he goes from fear to sadistic glee to rage to regret to mocking anger - all in the space of about 3 minutes. There's no scenery chewing (a problem both Tennant and Smith have demonstrated here and there), it's all very naturally played.
 
2013-04-01 12:37:01 AM

Snapper Carr: jonny_q: BafflerMeal: Eccleston left by his own choice.  He didn't want to be typecast.  His outcome?  Playing Destro.

Darth_Lukecash: Not quite...I think Davies bugged the shiat out of him.

I never liked him from the first moment I saw him. When I look back on my favorite episodes, my brain automatically just forgets Eccleston and puts in Tennant.  The damn look he had on his face, his damned delivery... I guess his clothes weren't his fault, but damn.


YMMV but to me there's never been a better performance by any Doctor (classic or new) than the 2005 episode "Dalek". The scene when he first finds the Dalek he goes from fear to sadistic glee to rage to regret to mocking anger - all in the space of about 3 minutes. There's no scenery chewing (a problem both Tennant and Smith have demonstrated here and there), it's all very naturally played.

 
That's probably one of my favorite episodes from the new series for exactly that reason. He goes from "Hey I'm the Doctor, sorry you're here" to "WTF! I killed all of you!" to "Ha! Look at yourself you pathetic bastard!" to "Die!" That's the first episode where you really see the toll the Time War has taken on the Doctor. You get another glimpse in the Doctor Dances two part episode.
 
2013-04-01 08:07:26 AM
As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit. 
 
/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav
 
2013-04-01 10:56:22 PM

Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav


Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.
 
2013-04-02 12:37:05 AM

100 Watt Walrus: Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav

Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.


Sounds to me like he's headed into season 4, which, IMO, was the best of the new series. The Doctor/Donna season was the best of the lot... solid stories throughout, the best of the new companions (all of this is my opinion, of course, lest I get shiat for not stating that)... just a solid season.

Now, after season 4, the specials... that's when things really go off the rails.
 
2013-04-02 04:15:46 AM

FirstNationalBastard: 100 Watt Walrus: Trade Secret: As a huge geek I had always wanted to watch Dr Who but never really knew where to start. As a late-thirty-something I never really watched Dr Who growing up but I remember the silly scarves and rubber suited monsters. Thanks to help from several Farkers I started with the Eccleston Dr. and moved forward from there. I have now made it through all of his shows and half of Tennents. Eccleston is great, Tennent is...fine. I guess maybe I liked the less goofy DR. From what I hear Smith is goofier and that worries me a bit.

/Billie Piper is hot...for a chav

Be forewarned, you're heading into Tennant's shiatty period. But soldier through. It will be OK. And Smith is great - goofy and serious, and good at both. He's fantastic at very-old-soul-in-young-man's-body, and he doesn't act with his teeth, which will come as quite a relief to you after the latter half of Tennant. Despite a couple bad episodes, and some a couple seasonal-arch issues that go frustratingly unresolved (because the showrunner chooses to ignore them), Series 5 and 6 rival Eccelston's run as the best "Doctor Who" has been.

Sounds to me like he's headed into season 4, which, IMO, was the best of the new series. The Doctor/Donna season was the best of the lot... solid stories throughout, the best of the new companions (all of this is my opinion, of course, lest I get shiat for not stating that)... just a solid season.

Now, after season 4, the specials... that's when things really go off the rails.



I'm not a fan of Donna. I wish I couldn't see past how utterly obnoxious same is, but she just makes me want to punch her -- especially when she gets all self-righteous or starts crying about this injustice or that.

That said, there are good episodes inn that season, but Tennant starts really leading with his teeth on that year, the Agatha Christie one is just awful, Donna is at her worst in the Pompeii and Odd ones, and the session finale is so obsessed with being epic that it's becomes a mockery of itself.


/fan since '79, have earned the right to criticize and still love the show
 
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