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(WFAA Fort Worth)   Traditional Catholics are outraged that Pope Francis is returning the church to traditional Christianity   (wfaa.com) divider line 63
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2013-03-30 03:49:20 PM
11 votes:

ClavellBCMI: And to think: it was the traditionalist, Benedict-appointed, cardinals that elected, quite possibly, another John Paul II, or, at the very least, another Paul VI. Maybe some of those cardinals were trying to send their brethren a message about not living in the 15th century.


Maybe in electing Pope Francis, the Cardinals were trying to tell traditionalists to. . .lighten up.

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2013-03-30 03:44:23 PM
8 votes:
The Catholic Pope is not conservative enough for American protestants whose religion was started by protesting the Catholic church's conservative stance.
2013-03-30 03:44:56 PM
5 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


He's a different kind of pope.
2013-03-30 04:02:40 PM
4 votes:

LDM90: NutWrench: "If someone is washing the feet of any females ... he is in violation of the Holy Thursday rubrics," Peters wrote in a 2006 article that he reposted earlier this month on his blog.

Look, just say, "girls have cooties" ok?

I get the feeling that anyone who calls women "females" really doesn't like women.

That's a word that should be reserved for veterinarians and biologists.


and Ferengi.
2013-03-30 03:43:09 PM
4 votes:

FloydA: Good.


dashburst.com

Agrees
2013-03-30 03:28:15 PM
4 votes:
We have a level 5 Poe's Law warning in effect.  Please remain calm and try not to take anything too seriously.
2013-03-30 12:25:18 PM
4 votes:
"If someone is washing the feet of any females ... he is in violation of the Holy Thursday rubrics," Peters wrote in a 2006 article that he reposted earlier this month on his blog.

Look, just say, "girls have cooties" ok?
2013-03-30 11:35:50 PM
3 votes:
Pope Troll the First.
2013-03-30 04:33:47 PM
3 votes:

LargeCanine: Headline attention whoring. Actual article: Rules lawyer says Pope ignored minor rules, since he can just change them anyway it doesn't matter much, but please do so.

Every Catholic I know thinks new Pope is awesome. Headline = crap.


Ah, wait I missed that

a rules lawyer decided to argue with his GM, well we know how those sort of campaigns turn out
2013-03-30 03:45:41 PM
3 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


He's a different kind of pope.
2013-03-30 03:16:05 PM
3 votes:
Next thing you know, he'll be healing the sick on the Sabbath and be in the company of tax collectors.
2013-03-30 02:42:23 PM
3 votes:
I'll join the dirty papists if they'll let me be an inquisitor.
2013-03-30 02:27:29 PM
3 votes:
Why is it so difficult for people to wash their own feet?  Are you really that inflexible?!
2013-03-31 03:29:57 AM
2 votes:
From previous fark thread
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2013-03-30 07:24:12 PM
2 votes:
Pope to traditionalists kvetching about church law:

global.fncstatic.com
2013-03-30 06:51:16 PM
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: The real fun starts when/if he tells all the bishops "You do not lead, you serve". Cause some of them aren't gonna like that they're basically being told to stop bossing people around and making demands and instead listen.


Here's how I think it will go.

Reformers: How about women priests?
Pope: Not a chance.
Traditionalists: Ha ha (think Nelson Muntz)
Pope: Now let's talk about poverty
Traditionalists: Oh shiat.
Reformers: Ha ha (think Nelson Muntz, again)
2013-03-30 06:18:00 PM
2 votes:

Breygon: Oldiron_79: Gifted Many Few: When do the heretic burnings begin again? That was when traditional meant something.

THIS, we could all use a good inquisition.

sounds like you're expecting one...


NO ONE EXPECTS THE INQUISITION!
2013-03-30 05:19:59 PM
2 votes:

Oldiron_79: Gifted Many Few: When do the heretic burnings begin again? That was when traditional meant something.

THIS, we could all use a good inquisition.


sounds like you're expecting one...
2013-03-30 04:32:15 PM
2 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I'll join the dirty papists if they'll let me be an inquisitor.


No one's expecting that!
2013-03-30 03:58:32 PM
2 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


He's a different kind of pope.
2013-03-30 03:49:40 PM
2 votes:

lelio: "Before liberals and traditionalists both have a spittle-flecked nutty, each for their own reasons, try to figure out what he is trying to do," Zuhlsdorf wrote in a conciliatory piece.


Spittle flecked nutty? Is that some new choir boy thing?


Alert, alert, a spittle-flecked nutty has been removed without payment!
2013-03-30 03:46:17 PM
2 votes:
So for Catholics, "pedophile" now means clean feet instead of boffed boys?
2013-03-30 03:44:10 PM
2 votes:

PonceAlyosha: LessO2: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

A close second is the banking industry.

Third is the greeting card industry.


No no no, religion and currancy have only been around since have been homo sapiens, the Military Industrial complex has been at it since we was homo habilis.
2013-03-30 03:40:40 PM
2 votes:

LessO2: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

A close second is the banking industry.


Third is the greeting card industry.
2013-03-30 03:40:13 PM
2 votes:
Somebody somewhere's making an "I'm infallible, deal with it" ani-gif.
2013-03-30 03:39:10 PM
2 votes:
Is the Pope Catholic?
2013-03-30 03:38:36 PM
2 votes:
Well, enjoy this Pope while you can. Between the Curia and Opus Dei, he'd be better off cooking his own meals. Just saying.
2013-03-30 03:36:27 PM
2 votes:

FloydA: FTA:  Francis has little or no interest in one of the key priorities of Benedict's papacy: reviving the pre-Vatican II traditions of the Catholic Church. ...Virtually everything he has done since being elected pope, every gesture, every decision, has rankled traditionalists in one way or another.

Good.


If he keeps this up we are all in for some good times....good times indeed.

Besides, those traditionalists were all form and no substance. The day after his election I happened to walk by the local chapter of Opus Dei and they had a big sign outside their store that read "Congratulations Pope Francis" and they had tacked that sign right above the sign that said "SALE. EVERYTHING 20% OFF." It seems so prophetic now.
2013-03-30 03:24:53 PM
2 votes:
"Treat things divine with marked respect - don't have anything to do with them."

Ambrose Bierce
2013-03-30 03:02:23 PM
2 votes:
Is "traditionalist" some weird Liturgical Latin word for "flaming asshole?"
2013-03-30 02:55:11 PM
2 votes:
You'll get over it.
2013-03-30 12:27:52 PM
2 votes:

Steve Zodiac: Oh goody! Does this mean we get to go on a new Crusade to take back the holy land?


I thought we already were.

/not catholic.
2013-03-30 12:19:08 PM
2 votes:
Old Christianity: Jesus washes feet of homeless men

New Christianity: Pope washes feet of little girls.
(Cause you know, washing the feet of dirty men is gay and stuff)
2013-03-31 11:35:10 AM
1 votes:
So the foot-washing is the final straw?

Not the child sexual abuse and the cover-up?

/I don't get these people at all
2013-03-31 02:54:29 AM
1 votes:

Mort_Q: enry: The bible (New Testament) pretty much says all that.

Yes, in some parts. In others it contradicts itself.  Once a war god, always a war god.


Yeah but we're supposed to ignore most of Matthew.  Aka "the grumpy one".   Actually I may be mixing up the names, it's late and I don't care.

/insomnia!

Joking aside, the New Testament *is* interesting if you can extricate it from it's irritating, hateful worshippers.  The story of a cult leader who preached peace and love and communalism, and reading in-between the lines.  Like when one of his flock tried to keep some money for his family instead of giving it all to Pappa Bear JC and "god" killed him, and then later his wife for the same thing.  Or the historical context of how the Jews (any tribe, really) didn't really consider people outside their tribe as full persons.  It was just how folk ROLLED back then, but adding that context gives new and interesting meaning to a lot of the stories.

It's just I prefer stories with plasma cannons.
2013-03-30 10:16:43 PM
1 votes:

enry: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

If it were up to me, the bible would be:

1.  Don't be a dick
2.  Quietly help those who are unable to help themselves
3.  Be thankful for what, and who you have in your life.

The bible (New Testament) pretty much says all that.


Well, that and don't be gay
2013-03-30 09:57:09 PM
1 votes:
So wait. They get a pope that acts more like how Jesus acted when he was here and the Pharisees get all mad and huffy.

Nice to see things haven't changed in 2000 years.
2013-03-30 09:17:57 PM
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I'll join the dirty papists if they'll let me be an inquisitor.


No one would expect that.
2013-03-30 08:08:33 PM
1 votes:

enry: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

If it were up to me, the bible would be:

1.  Don't be a dick
2.  Quietly help those who are unable to help themselves
3.  Be thankful for what, and who you have in your life.

The bible (New Testament) pretty much says all that.


The *Gospels* pretty much say all that.  The letters of Paul, not so much.
2013-03-30 07:46:08 PM
1 votes:

orbister: ariseatex: He's a different kind of pope.

There's been an argument.
Over Vatican II?


OK, I have 2 responses:

1. I'll never get over Vatican II. or
b. Vatican II! What is it!?
2013-03-30 07:26:08 PM
1 votes:

lelio: "Before liberals and traditionalists both have a spittle-flecked nutty, each for their own reasons, try to figure out what he is trying to do," Zuhlsdorf wrote in a conciliatory piece.


Spittle flecked nutty? Is that some new choir boy thing?


Well I don't know about you, but "spittle-flecked nutty" is the new name of my band.
2013-03-30 06:57:40 PM
1 votes:

ariseatex: He's a different kind of pope.


There's been an argument.
Over Vatican II?
2013-03-30 06:49:49 PM
1 votes:

Steve Zodiac: Oh goody! Does this mean we get to go on a new Crusade to take back the holy land?


Oddly enough, they're pissed that he seems to want to get along with Muslims.
2013-03-30 06:39:29 PM
1 votes:
He's symbolically telling the priests and other clergy to expand to molesting little girls, as people are growing wise to them molesting boys.
He's pragmatic, this pope.
2013-03-30 05:36:52 PM
1 votes:

varmitydog: The earth will still revolve around the sun no matter what the pope does.


Pfft... You had that part backwards meaning the rest of what you say is a bit suspect.
2013-03-30 05:32:11 PM
1 votes:
This thread should have been funnier.
2013-03-30 05:24:40 PM
1 votes:

Breygon: Oldiron_79: Gifted Many Few: When do the heretic burnings begin again? That was when traditional meant something.

THIS, we could all use a good inquisition.

sounds like you're expecting one...


Its the inquisition, lets begin. The Inquisition, you better watch out sin.
2013-03-30 05:14:11 PM
1 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


He's a different kind of pope.
2013-03-30 05:12:53 PM
1 votes:

bingo the psych-o: enry: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

If it were up to me, the bible would be:

1.  Don't be a dick
2.  Quietly help those who are unable to help themselves
3.  Be thankful for what, and who you have in your life.

The bible (New Testament) pretty much says all that.

It also says that you should treat your slaves kindly.  Can I start keeping slaves?  My place is a mess and I can't stay on top of it.


That's what kids are for.
2013-03-30 05:12:17 PM
1 votes:
The traditional Catholics are forgetting the most traditional thing a Catholic can do: getting over the fact that the Pope is in charge of you and realizing that what he says, goes.
2013-03-30 05:12:14 PM
1 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


"He's a different kind of pope!"
2013-03-30 05:11:32 PM
1 votes:

enry: markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

If it were up to me, the bible would be:

1.  Don't be a dick
2.  Quietly help those who are unable to help themselves
3.  Be thankful for what, and who you have in your life.

The bible (New Testament) pretty much says all that.


It also says that you should treat your slaves kindly.  Can I start keeping slaves?  My place is a mess and I can't stay on top of it.
2013-03-30 04:59:58 PM
1 votes:
pope back and forth, forever
2013-03-30 04:46:14 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: The real fun starts when/if he tells all the bishops "You do not lead, you serve". Cause some of them aren't gonna like that they're basically being told to stop bossing people around and making demands and instead listen.


Oh but they will be leading, my friend. by example. They will show us all how to sacrifice, how to give, how to serve.
2013-03-30 04:39:12 PM
1 votes:

markie_farkie: Organized religion is the biggest power and money grab ever invented by man..

If it were up to me, the bible would be:

1.  Don't be a dick
2.  Quietly help those who are unable to help themselves
3.  Be thankful for what, and who you have in your life.


The ironic part is that pretty much sums up Christ's teachings while on Earth. The other stuff before and after is all just tacked on bullcrap from other people.

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2013-03-30 04:39:05 PM
1 votes:

ScreamingHangover: Forbidden Doughnut: What a "Traditional Catholic" may look like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x427]

You're confusing "Conservative" with "Traditional".
They are far from the same thing. Although the conservatives like to claim they are traditionalist, the conservative Catholic movement - like the conservative evangelical movement- is a relatively new phenomena. Opus Dei is less than 100 years old and has only been recognized by the Catholic church since 1950. By Catholic standards, that's not a tradition: that's a fad.

Conservative Catholics argue over doctrine.
Traditional Catholics build schools and hospitals.
This is what a Traditional (non-conservative) Catholic may look like:

[textualfisticuffs.com image 220x300]


....I stand corrected.
2013-03-30 04:24:51 PM
1 votes:

rkiller1: He's a different kind of pope, all together.


He's a different kind of pope.
2013-03-30 04:24:08 PM
1 votes:

varmitydog: the_chief : Why does anybody give a damn about this crap?

I don't know, but I figure it has something to do with money.
I'm a Catholic who goes to church every week. I really don't give a flying f*ck whose feet the pope washes.
The earth will still revolve around the sun no matter what the pope does.


Now THAT is an interesting turn of phrase.

/The fact that around 1/6 of the world are at his beck and call might also have to do with why people care
2013-03-30 04:11:27 PM
1 votes:
I was having a discussion with a cow-orker about the time Benedict was resigning. I am basically a lapsed catholic... ok atheist(so I don't really have a dog in the hunt but I was answering questions.), he is not catholic.

I said that a pope doesn't simply resign... at least not in the last 600 years (and usually under some duress), they serve until they die. He asked why. One thing I said was because now there will be two popes (at least in some peoples minds.)

I said that I was sure there wouldn't be any problems and that the new pope would probably be just as traditional as Benedict and it'll all go smoothly.

But as a hypothetical, I asked, what if the new pope comes in and starts ruffling the cardinal's feathers? (pun semi-intentional) What if he proposes massive changes. He's the pope... he can do that. What if this filters down and a significant portion of the church hierarchy is uncomfortable with these changes? What if the people themselves don't like the changes?

Now it looks like Francis has some new ideas. What if they get even more out of line with the mainstream?

Could there be a movement to bring back Benedict? What if Benedict himself asks for a do-over because he is displeased with changes being made. He was elected pope by the cardinals, who believe they are doing the will of god... he was selected to be god's spokesman on earth and leader of the church until death... and now suddenly he isn't because of one man's decision, his own?

Might be interesting to watch.

/tl;dr
2013-03-30 03:47:08 PM
1 votes:
"Before liberals and traditionalists both have a spittle-flecked nutty, each for their own reasons, try to figure out what he is trying to do," Zuhlsdorf wrote in a conciliatory piece.


Spittle flecked nutty? Is that some new choir boy thing?
2013-03-30 03:35:26 PM
1 votes:
He's a different kind of pope, all together.
2013-03-30 03:34:31 PM
1 votes:
When do the heretic burnings begin again? That was when traditional meant something.
2013-03-30 11:54:31 AM
1 votes:
Oh goody! Does this mean we get to go on a new Crusade to take back the holy land?
 
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