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2013-03-30 02:41:24 PM
8 votes:
OK, I'll bite.

Click link.

Link shows article headline, photo, but nothing else.

Noscript: Allow salon.com

Still no article.

Closes link.

Sigh.
2013-03-30 12:27:16 PM
8 votes:
Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.
2013-03-30 02:16:34 PM
7 votes:
I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.

That noted TMBG are teh awesome in concert.
2013-03-30 03:03:17 PM
4 votes:

El Pachuco: That said, this particular article is indeed textless and contains a video that won't run on some mobile devices, so this particular article is kinda useless.


Some mobile devices?  I'm seeing embed code in my desktop browser (some obscure, non-standards-compliant, hard-to-design-for browser called Mozilla Firefox running on some outdated, little-known OS called Windows 7).  That's a failure all around.
2013-03-30 02:26:15 PM
4 votes:
The Salon is a horrible website, both technically and content-wise.
2013-03-30 10:55:33 PM
3 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?


I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.
2013-03-30 02:31:08 PM
3 votes:
Salon: your mobile site is shiat.
2013-03-30 07:06:00 PM
2 votes:
Oh, and as the father of a toddler, I thank god daily for TMBG's kids albums.

Here Come the ABCs
Here Come the 123s
Here Comes Science
No!
Bed Bed Bed

We have all of those.  It's great to heave kids music that doesn't suck, because you have to listen to it a lot.
2013-03-30 05:54:29 PM
2 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

I fidn it amazing that an anti-religious website community like farkers would talk about enjoiying the band who wrote Birdhouse in Your Soul. I figured they would be ripping them to shreds.


Bless your heart.
2013-03-30 03:13:37 PM
2 votes:
El Pachuco

Glenn Greenwald left a few years back. I haven't seen a David Talbot article on there in a bit, but then again after that travesty of a site redesign, I didn't really care anymore. For a bit of what Salon offers today, be sure to read the fluff piece by Phil Spector's daughter where she criticizes a film about her dad that she admits she never even watched, and also tells everyone that her dad is super great even though he has a long documented history of being a complete psychopath. shiat site, shiat articles, and their heavyweight writer bailed. Do you own stock??
2013-03-30 03:09:44 PM
2 votes:
Even though it was aimed at younger listeners, I liked their science is real album.
2013-03-30 03:02:12 PM
2 votes:
Science is real
From evolution to the Milky Way
I like the stories About angels, unicorns and elves

/With just a hint of trolling to make it delicious. That's the secret ingredient.
2013-03-30 02:41:42 PM
2 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: fark TMBG istanbul is NOT that good of a SONG


Perhaps but Minimum Wage rocks.
2013-03-30 02:37:33 PM
2 votes:
2013-03-30 02:32:22 PM
2 votes:

ilikeracecars: < iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe >

Awesome


Yeah, that's really high-quality HTML there Salon, good work.
2013-03-30 02:29:26 PM
2 votes:
< iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe >

Awesome
2013-03-30 01:59:25 PM
2 votes:
I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.
2013-03-30 12:41:33 PM
2 votes:
They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?
2013-03-31 08:38:50 PM
1 votes:

skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.


I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.
2013-03-31 09:47:56 AM
1 votes:
I didn't even click the link, but since they're in the politics tab, they must be libbies. Amirite?
2013-03-31 12:03:16 AM
1 votes:

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


That is brilliant.
2013-03-30 10:41:30 PM
1 votes:
There's a knock at the door that I adore, there's a face at the window, a smiling yellow face, there's a knock on the door, and if I were at home, they'd find me there.

There's a note on the door that I would see, and the furniture's barely been moved from where it was, there's a note on the door, and the note will say "when it rains, it snows." When it rains, it snows, I wonder why. And now I know, that when it rains, it snows.

/Gripping commentary on the Iran-Contra scandal, that.
//farkin love TMBG
///Can't code for shiat.
2013-03-30 10:29:32 PM
1 votes:

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


I'm guessing you have no kids.

TMBG are the only group that I can think of that has maintained an adult fan base while simultaneously creating a kid-music career. I've seen then live 3 times in the last four years, two of which were "family" shows featuring their all-ages music.

/watching all the parents get psyched when they played constantinople was hilarious
//at the adult show I was hoping they'd play "seven" off their numbers/math album "Here come the 1,2,3's"
///could do without "higglytown heroes"
2013-03-30 10:08:42 PM
1 votes:
This is where the party ends
I'll just sit here wondering how you
Can stand by your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
You and your racist friend

- yeah, they all be hardcore politickin and speakin out about racism and stuff. i bet bono and tmbg get together for freon-fueled parties and talk politics long into the night and riff off of each other whilst writing new songs.
2013-03-30 09:42:59 PM
1 votes:

The Bestest: The Salon is a horrible website, both technically and content-wise.


It used to be great. Believe it or not, in 1999 Salon was on the cutting edge of on-line journalism. I was a subscriber for 10 years. I gave that up a year ago. It should have been earlier. Their new site design was crapola, and I don't know why I put up with it for as long as I did.
2013-03-30 09:11:20 PM
1 votes:

xkillyourfacex: How can that band possibly still matter. How did it ever matter.


No band matters.

Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: Were just a band.
Led Zepplin: Just a band.
The Beach Boys: Just a band.
The Sex Pistols: Just a band.
The Clash: Just a band.
Crass: Just a band.
Minor Threat: Just a band.
The Cure: Were just a band.
The Smiths: Just a band.
Nirvana: Just a band.
The Pixies: Just a band.
Oasis: Just a band.
Radiohead: Just a band.
Bloc Party: Just a band.
The Arctic Monkeys: Just a band.
The next big thing... Just a band.
2013-03-30 09:08:47 PM
1 votes:
The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid
2013-03-30 06:33:41 PM
1 votes:

zez: God-is-a-Taco: Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.

When I was in my 20's and saw them all the time (I think my record was 7 times in 5 days) all their shows were all ages shows and now that I have kids who LOVE TMBG they can't get in. Is it the venues or the bands, what's changed? Even as a college kid I always liked that Giants' shows were a family affair.


It's the venues. The place I saw them at both times had kids of all ages there with their parents for the show. So it's certainly not the bands setting the age minimum.
2013-03-30 06:30:11 PM
1 votes:

jaybeezey: I'm sure the 118 people and their racist friends that make up the central fan base are pleased.


Citation needed.
zez
2013-03-30 06:13:52 PM
1 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.


When I was in my 20's and saw them all the time (I think my record was 7 times in 5 days) all their shows were all ages shows and now that I have kids who LOVE TMBG they can't get in. Is it the venues or the bands, what's changed? Even as a college kid I always liked that Giants' shows were a family affair.
2013-03-30 05:39:25 PM
1 votes:

quatchi: I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.

That noted TMBG are teh awesome in concert.


Seconded on both counts. Was there supposed to be an article there?


Ablejack: TMBG Dial-a-Song was the greatest thing ever done by anyone during my lifetime.


Free when you call from work!
2013-03-30 05:36:37 PM
1 votes:
One Ring Zero is the band They Might Be Giants should have been. They milk the nerd-cred way too hard.
2013-03-30 05:35:48 PM
1 votes:
TMBG, great band.

BUT

Why do we look to any entertainer for political commentary at all?  Has not Bill Mahr (Mr Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death himself) proven that the schtick wears off fairly quickly but the smell lingers on long after they think they have said something important?

These people do not live in the real world.  Their opinion is just as valid as anyone else's but of much less interest as it does not relate.
2013-03-30 05:25:29 PM
1 votes:
Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.

As has been said, they do an amazing show. Great banter between songs and a very down-to-Earth atmosphere, the Johns even personally handed out stickers and other memorabilia after the show.
2013-03-30 05:17:10 PM
1 votes:

The Bestest: El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.

All you've proved is that Salon -used- to be something (and I agree.. I used to like it).

Now? It's a crappily coded website with nothing of real value anyway.


MINIMUM WAAAAAAAGE! Hyaa!
2013-03-30 05:03:47 PM
1 votes:

Shadowtag: Subby saw an article while the rest of us saw bad coding. But no one tell him, he hasn't been well for a while. In fact he's been yelling at the microwave for an hour because it won't show Magnum PI. Just go along with it, he means well.

Sincerely, Sanchotag


People who like TMBG also are bad coders.

I know, I used to sleep with one.  She had a job as a webmaster (remember when that was a job) and I coded her stuff for her because she had no clue. She also tried to find deeper meaning in songs like "Birdhouse in my soul" or whatever the stupid song is.
2013-03-30 04:25:29 PM
1 votes:
I will never type the word procrastinate again.
2013-03-30 04:21:09 PM
1 votes:

LesterB: Everyone says they are awesome in concert, but we took our kids to see them after "No" came out, and we were very unimpressed. There wasn't that much fun stuff for the kids, just standing and doing the numbers, and that was it. Maybe they put less effort into the kid-oriented concerts?

/YMMV obviously


One of the shows I went to was right around the time Here Comes Science was released.  Most of the show was "regular" TMBG material.  They also had a couple of segments hosted by sock puppets singing the Science material.  It wasn't a show specific to children, but everybody in the audience, regardless of age, had a great time.
2013-03-30 04:18:25 PM
1 votes:
Science is Real
2013-03-30 04:05:01 PM
1 votes:
I've always agreed with their assertion that people should get beat up for stating their beliefs.

/particularly vis à vis toothed shoehorns, because there's no such thing.
2013-03-30 03:51:56 PM
1 votes:

Resin33: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

Like the theme songs to Malcom in the Middle and the Daily Show!


"Dog On Fire" (The Daily Show theme) was written and originally performed by Bob Mould. This version was replaced by TMBG's cover shortly after Stewart took over the show.

And yes, all TMBG is good TMBG.
2013-03-30 03:37:51 PM
1 votes:

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


I took part in a best albums of the 90s, and Flood ended up being #1.
2013-03-30 03:34:50 PM
1 votes:
Everyone says they are awesome in concert, but we took our kids to see them after "No" came out, and we were very unimpressed. There wasn't that much fun stuff for the kids, just standing and doing the numbers, and that was it. Maybe they put less effort into the kid-oriented concerts?

/YMMV obviously
2013-03-30 03:26:21 PM
1 votes:

Trollin4Colon: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

They'll rue the day they did that "Tiny Toons" episode if they haven't already.


I always wondered how Spielberg got Tiny Tunes so wrong and Animaniacs so right.
2013-03-30 03:24:36 PM
1 votes:

evers3: They also do The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse song and The Hot Dog song! Yeah, I've got kids!


No joke: had a friend go through my CD album a few years ago and just stare at me when they found my copy of "They Might Be Giants - Here Come the ABCs".

No, I have no children.
2013-03-30 02:56:02 PM
1 votes:
They Might be Giants, but there AIN'T No Article..
2013-03-30 02:53:02 PM
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Salon: your mobile site is shiat.


It's not just the mobile site. I'm looking at the desktop version.

There's a headline. No text. No video. Just a headline.

I don't have any kind of script- or ad-blocking software installed.
2013-03-30 02:49:22 PM
1 votes:

It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time: I haven't seen them play live since the mid 90's.  Got tickets for next Thursday's show in Boston.  Can't wait.


I've seen them twice in the past five years.  One performance was a complete run-through of Flood.  The other was a selection from everything.  They put on a great show, one of the best concerts I've been to.

/The best being Devo.
2013-03-30 02:47:23 PM
1 votes:
I haven't seen them play live since the mid 90's.  Got tickets for next Thursday's show in Boston.  Can't wait.
2013-03-30 02:43:31 PM
1 votes:
Guest vocalist:

i.imgur.com
2013-03-30 02:08:29 PM
1 votes:

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


They'll rue the day they did that "Tiny Toons" episode if they haven't already.
2013-03-30 12:32:02 PM
1 votes:
"Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" is a swing-style song, with lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy and music by Nat Simon. The tune is reminiscent of "Puttin' on the Ritz," written by Irving Berlin in 1929,[1] but the song is said to be a response to "C-O-N-S-T-A-N-T-I-N-O-P-L-E" recorded in 1928 by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra.[2]

The lyrics comically refer to the renaming of the city of Constantinople by the Turks to Istanbul (officially adopted in 1930). It also references other renamed cities, specifically the renaming of New York City from "New Amsterdam".
 
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